alBHAGDADI:


Stop with the shenanigans and tell your master to answer the question, else you will continue to be fooled by him.

Point of correction Sir!
I am a baptised member as in JW body and soul, Maximus is yet to get baptised as a REAL JW. In fact his baptism is coming up soon and he has vowed to stop engaging in social media debates after his baptism!
So instead of thinking he is fooling me, just know that both Tatime and Maximus are students of the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses. We're both pleased to be FOOLED by the GB of JWs!

TATIME:
Point of correction Sir!
I am a baptised member as in JW body and soul, Maximus is yet to get baptised as a REAL JW. In fact his baptism is coming up soon and he has vowed to stop engaging in social media debates after his baptism!
So instead of thinking he is fooling me, just know that both Tatime and Maximus are students of the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses. We're both pleased to be FOOLED by the GB of JWs!

So you are his master. I thought you said you were his student.

If you are both students of the GB, who are the GB students of?

Aren't you supposed to be students of the Bible?

Maximus69:
When Sennacherib of Assyria was conquering cities and kingdoms, and moving towards Jerusalem. Jehovah never recorded the events as having to do with him!
But when the Assyrians approached Jerusalem [ancient city symbolising pure worship] Jehovah's angel intervened in behalf of his own people!
Lesson learnt! Satan knows his REAL target but he will act as if he is fighting indiscriminately.
When he wanted to challenge Jehovah's sovereignty in the garden of eden, he NEVER told Even directly to 'stop obeying Jehovah' [Genesis 3:1-5] true worshipers can't be fooled with this tactics. We know why we're been attacked!
So don't think we're fooled with Satan's beating about the bush before coming towards his REAL target!

Or it could be the reverse. Those other Christian religious organizations are the true religion while Jehovah's Witnesses are the false, so, in your own words "Satan knows his REAL target but he will act as if he is fighting indiscriminately."

Or it could be that just as Jehovah allowed Babylon to conquer the nation of Israel for their rebellion, Jehovah is also allowing watchtower to pass through such for rebelling against his son.

What do you think

rottennaija:


Or it could be the reverse. Those other Christian religious organizations are the true religion while Jehovah's Witnesses are the false, so, in your own words "Satan knows his REAL target but he will act as if he is fighting indiscriminately."

Or it could be that just as Jehovah allowed Babylon to conquer the nation of Israel for their rebellion, Jehovah is also allowing watchtower to pass through such for rebelling against his son.

What do you think

You are really trying arguing with this hypocrites.

rottennaija:


Or it could be the reverse. Those other Christian religious organizations are the true religion while Jehovah's Witnesses are the false, so, in your own words "Satan knows his REAL target but he will act as if he is fighting indiscriminately."

Or it could be that just as Jehovah allowed Babylon to conquer the nation of Israel for their rebellion, Jehovah is also allowing watchtower to pass through such for rebelling against his son.

What do you think

You're 100% correct Sir!
You deserve to have a gold medal for that!

TATIME:
Point of correction Sir!
I am a baptised member as in JW body and soul, Maximus is yet to get baptised as a REAL JW. In fact his baptism is coming up soon and he has vowed to stop engaging in social media debates after his baptism!
So instead of thinking he is fooling me, just know that both Tatime and Maximus are students of the GB of Jehovah's Witnesses. We're both pleased to be FOOLED by the GB of JWs!

Slowly revealing what idolatry is. Are you supposed to be student of the GB or students of Jesus? Are you now belonging to the GB or to Jesus? I would think you would say, 'I am a student of Jesus'. This reminds me of people who chose who to belong to in the Bible and the apostle (Maximus69's brother) reprimanded them. Read below

1 Corinthians 1:11- 15 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas "; still another, "I follow Christ." Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized in my name.

1 Corinthians 3:3 - 5
You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere human beings? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe —as the Lord has assigned to each his task.

Of course, you are showing where your true loyalty lies. I would pray that you don't fall for this modern form of idolatry.

alBHAGDADI:


So you are his master. I thought you said you were his student.

If you are both students of the GB, who are the GB students of?

Aren't you supposed to be students of the Bible?

HOWEVER and WHATEVER YOU SAY SIR!

rottennaija:


Slowly revealing what idolatry is. Are you supposed to be student of the GB or students of Jesus? Are you now belonging to the GB or to Jesus? I would think you would say, 'I am a student of Jesus'. This reminds me of people who chose who to belong to in the Bible and the apostle (Maximus69's brother) reprimanded them. Read below
1 Corinthians 1:11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you.
1 Corinthians 1:12 - 15
What I mean is this: One of you says, "I follow Paul"; another, "I follow Apollos"; another, "I follow Cephas "; still another, "I follow Christ." Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, so no one can say that you were baptized in my name.


1 Corinthians 3:3 - 5
You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans? For when one says, "I follow Paul," and another, "I follow Apollos," are you not mere human beings? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe —as the Lord has assigned to each his task.

Of course, you are showing where your true loyalty lies. I would pray that you don't fall for this modern form of idolatry.

Maximus is right!
Sir, you deserve a GOLD medal!

TATIME:
Maximus is right!
Sir, you deserve a GOLD medal!

you should "belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God." - 1 Corinthians 3:23

alBHAGDADI:


You are really trying arguing with this hypocrites.

Hmmm, it's really exhaustive. I'm just feeling love for them. They have been so misguided and are unwilling to see reason or to reason.

rottennaija:


you should "belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God." - 1 Corinthians 3:23

HOWEVER and WHATEVER YOU SAY SIR!

rottennaija:


Hmmm, it's really exhaustive. I'm just feeling love for them. They have been so misguided and are unwilling to see reason or to reason.

Did you see how they've been avoiding my question in work based salvation?

alBHAGDADI:


Did you see how they've been avoiding my question in work based salvation?

Of course, just like in everything here. It's either their run from one issue to another to they simply give you thumps up.

rottennaija:


Of course, just like in everything here. It's either their run from one issue to another to they simply give you thumps up.

They don't seem to know that even in a hundred years, people reading this thread will see their shenanigans.

alBHAGDADI:


They don't seem to know that even in a hundred years, people reading this thread will see their shenanigans.

Yes, that one of the reasons why internet is so powerful. In the future, when watchtower could no longer support these doctrine, it will be evident that they were people who saw it decades in advance and spoke about it. It would be more difficult for watchtower to manipulate history like they did in the past 50 to 80. They were only successful because records existed but people didn't have access to them.

rottennaija:


Yes, that one of the reasons why internet is so powerful. In the future, when watchtower could no longer support these doctrine, it will be evident that they were people who saw it decades in advance and spoke about it. It would be more difficult for watchtower to manipulate history like they did in the past 50 to 80. They were only successful because records existed but people didn't have access to them.

You of all people should know better than this!
Your Papa and Mama have been in the organization for DECADES seeing and noticing all those changes including the so called MANIPULATIONS.
Well did they leave the organization? NO! is the answer, they stuck to the organization, still adhering strictly to the teachings of the GB! And that is where they gave birth to you and brought you up. Many Arabian nations where any mention of Christ is prohibited in the past, JWs are making disciples and uniting them with people from other nations. Courtesy the TEACHINGS of the GB!
So if anyone tells you that the watchtower organization will fail to make progress in their so called MANIPULATIONS, you should be in the best position to say 'Jehovah's Witnesses will ever continue to wax stronger with their religious activities'!

achorladey:



Jozzy4: He hasn't returned to heaven at the time to dwell in unapproachable Light.

Achorladey: Did you see me state that he was resurrected direct into heaven?

Jozzy4: Don't forget he quote where Paul said LIKE the HEAVENLY ONE, so too are those who are heavenly . heavenly NOT earthly.

Achorladey: what difference does the above make on the question posed Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST ON THE EARTH.

Jozzy4: What you saw there is a materialized body, Just as Angels in the past.

Achorladey: You should by now see how it relates to the question posed

Jozzy4: No wonder Mary didn't recognize him facially at first. Except by his voice

Achorladey: Mary didn't recognize him at first, but Mary did the second abi?

Acts 1:3 After he had suffered, HE SHOWED HIMSELF ALIVE to THEM by MANY CONVINCING PROOFS. He was SEEN by THEM throughout 40 days, and he was speaking about the Kingdom of God.


From the above you believe Christ already has the HEAVENLY BODY isn't it? Was he approachable or not? Did he live on the earth for some days or not after his resurrection, what does that tell you of the question posed once again


Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST ON THE EARTH?

Revelation 5:10 You have appointed them as a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will REIGN ON THE EARTH.”

hahahahahaha heavenly body ? shuuuuu . what they saw his materialized flesh and bones not heavenly body. he hasnt returned to heaven to receive his heavenly glory which he had before the earth was made (John 17;5) that glory is not earthly, in fact he had to empty it and be born of a woman to walk this earth ,those disciples cant behold it, . back to heaven , Christ is now heavenly WITH GLORY.

unless u mean he will have to be born as human a second time to as to empty his glory and come to earth. like captivator said. u are making a useless argument .

captivator viewing, evening bro.

Jozzy4:


hahahahahaha heavenly body ? shuuuuu . what they saw his materialized flesh and bones not heavenly body. he hasnt returned to heaven to receive his heavenly glory which he had before the earth was made (John 17;5) that glory is not earthly, in fact he had to empty it and be born of a woman to walk this earth ,those disciples cant behold it, . back to heaven , Christ is now heavenly WITH GLORY.

unless u mean he will have to be born as human a second time to as to empty his glory and come to earth. like captivator said. u are making a useless argument .

captivator viewing, evening bro.

He has no clue . to think the same appearance after his ressurection is the same with the one Paul met on the way to Damascus is stark ignorance .

achorladey:


CAPTIVATOR: Daniel 7:13,14 Location of government is heaven.

Achorladey: This is Daniel 7:13,14  

“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One. 14 And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed

No where in the scripture cited by you states a KINGDOM GIVEN to JESUS CHRIST is LOCATED THERE.

It said Jesus entered with the cloud of heaven . HE IS HEAVENLY. not human
oh u think in your mind after coming before the ancient of days, he will go to earth to rule ? stark ignorance .

" [God] raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the HEAVENLY PLACES,... not only in this system of things BUT ALSO IN THAT TO COME " _ Eph 1:20,21

what about his associate king and priest ?

Jesus replied two of his disciples ehom he promised to sit on thrones, sitting at my right hand and left hand is left for those whom the father has reserved it. clearly, they will be with him in the heavenly places

that bring to reality the earlier scripture " like the heavenly one, so also are those who are heavenly"

dont forget Dan 7:13,14 ... THE NATIONS ON EARTH AND PEOPLES ARE SUBJECTS serving the heaveanly king. LOL

After all where did the BIBLE states God's MOUNTAIN is ESTABLISHED?


CAPTIVATOR: Daniel 2:44 God set up that kingdom in the days of earthly kings.

Achorladey: This is

Daniel 2:44....In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever,45just as you saw that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and that it crushed the iron, the copper, the clay, the silver, and the gold. The Grand God has made known to the king what will happen in the future. The dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.”

In relation to the above have you reaa this.... ...

Daniel 2: 34, 35
You looked on until a stone was cut out, not by hands, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and of clay and crushed them. 35 At that time the iron, the clay, the copper, the silver, and the gold were, all together, crushed and became like the chaff from the summer threshing floor, and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them could be found. BUT the STONE that struck the IMAGE became a large MOUNTAIN, and it FILLED the WHOLE EARTH.

When linked with

Micah 4:1 In the final part of the days,The MOUNTAIN of the HOUSE of JEHOVAH Will become firmly ESTABLISHED above the top of the MOUNTAINS, And it will be raised up above the HILLS,And to it PEOPLES will stream.


CAPTIVATOR: which reveals its not from this SOURCE.

you are just clueless, so something filled the earth yet people are streaming to it ? look at yourself .

the bolded reveal this kingdom and its ruler are heavenly, while the earthly kings are ruling . God set up that kingdom. it was invisible until it crushed them and extend its dominion to the earth.

dont forget Dan 7:13,14 ... THE NATIONS AND PEOPLES ARE SUBJECTS serving the heaveanly king

Achorladey: The questions still remain........... Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST the HEAVENLY ONE from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST ON THE EARTH?


The word here is "SOURCE" and the Daniel 7:13,14 you cited states CHRIST was GIVEN a KINGDOM, RULERSHIP and HONOUR not by HUMANS but by the ANCIENT of DAYS who resides in the heaven. Concerning the LOCATION of the KINGDOM, it's not stated in THAT SCRIPTURE.

CAPTIVATOR: Revelation 12:10 " Now have come the KINGDOM... OF OUR GOD " . that's at a time the earth was said to experience woe.

Achorladey: Now a look at this scriptures

Luke 13: 28-30...... There is where your weeping and the gnashing of your teeth will be, when you see ABRAHAM, ISAAC, JACOB, and all the prophets IN THE KINGDOM of GOD, but you yourselves thrown outside. 29 Furthermore, people will come from east and west and from north and south, and will recline at the table IN THE KINGDOM of GOD.


Matthew 8:10-12.......When Jesus heard that, he was amazed and said to those following him: “I tell you the truth, with no one in Israel have I found so great a faith. 11 But I tell you that many from east and west will come and recline at the table with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob IN THE KINGDOM of THE HEAVENS; 12 whereas the SONS OF the KINGDOM will be THROWN into the DARKNESS OUTSIDE. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be.”

Luke 17:20,21 On being asked by the Pharisees when the KINGDOM of GOD was COMING, he answered them: “The KINGDOM of GOD is not coming with striking observableness; 21 nor will people say, ‘See here!’ or, ‘There!’ For look! the KINGDOM of GOD is in YOUR MIDST.”


Revelation 11:15..... The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “THE KINGDOM of THE WORLD has become the KINGDOM of OUR LORD and of his CHRIST, and he will rule as KING FOREVER and EVER.”

CAPTIVATOR: Its useless arguing this.

Achorladey: Didn't I tell you to take a closer look at the usage of those terms you responded to here?

CAPTIVATOR: Heavenly one means residing in the heavens.

Achorladey: Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST the HEAVENLY ONE from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST ON THE EARTH?

THATS WHAT destroyed your theory. he is seated in the heavenly places now and forever!

and the nations are his subjects as shown at Daniel 7:13,14 not kings.

truth debate score so far

rottennaija and alBHAGDADI = 5000

know nothing run aways max and tatime = 666

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

johnw47:

truth debate score so far

rottenn.aija and alBHAG.DADI = 5000

know nothing run aways max and tatime = 666

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I thought I was the only one who noticed that Maximus and Tatime ways run away when confronted with the truth.

alBHAGDADI:


I thought I was the only one who noticed that Maximus and Tatime ways run away when confronted with the truth.

Hmmm, They do run away!

Maximus69:
Hmmm, They do run away!

So, every other person you run away from also told you to get lost with your false satanic doctrines?

Did Rittennaija that you keep running away from his question on works based salvation also tell you together et lost?

Did Shadeyinka that you keep avoiding his questions on Watchtower also tell you to get lost?

Look dude, it's obvious, you are scared of engaging in arguments that will rattle your believe in GB because they will be exposed as fraud. Same thing as been noticed with Tatime. It's so obvious that Johnw47 also pointed it out.

So stop trying to clutch at straws and using flimsy excuse. Not everyone is foolish. We all can see clearly how afraid and evasive you are

alBHAGDADI:


I thought I was the only one who noticed that Maximus and Tatime ways run away when confronted with the truth.

not properly answering is running away
most people would notice
except their fellow blinded false jw's

alBHAGDADI:


So, every other person you run away from also told you to get lost with your false satanic doctrines?

Did Rittennaija that you keep running away from his question on works based salvation also tell you together et lost?

Did Shadeyinka that you keep avoiding his questions on Watchtower also tell you to get lost?

Look dude, it's obvious, you are scared of engaging in arguments that will rattle your believe in GB because they will be exposed as fraud. Same thing as been noticed with Tatime. It's so obvious that Johnw47 also pointed it out.

So stop trying to clutch at straws and using flimsy excuse. Not everyone is foolish. We all can see clearly how afraid and evasive you are

Maximus69:

ha ha running away false jw winky max
you are totally out of your depth with al and rott

johnw47:

ha ha running away false jw winky max
you are totally out of your depth with al and rott

Jozzy4:


hahahahahaha heavenly body ? shuuuuu . what they saw his materialized flesh and bones not heavenly body. he hasnt returned to heaven to receive his heavenly glory which he had before the earth was made (John 17;5) that glory is not earthly, in fact he had to empty it and be born of a woman to walk this earth ,those disciples cant behold it, . back to heaven , Christ is now heavenly WITH GLORY.

unless u mean he will have to be born as human a second time to as to empty his glory and come to earth. like captivator said. u are making a useless argument .

captivator viewing, evening bro.

Jozzy4: hahahahahaha heavenly body?

Achorladey: This will will mean you believe according to Acts 1:3 Jesus by then he didn't have heavenly body as at then. Abi no be so? Which mean when he was resurrected he still has EARTHLY BODY. So how does earthly body looks like?

Please don't come back and tell me it's a MATERIALIZED body. There is a question already in store on that for you.

Jozzy4: shuuuuu . what they saw his MATERIALIZED flesh and bones not HEAVENLY BODY.

Achorladey: So why did JESUS CHRIST had to MATERIALIZED into FLESH and BONES if he was not resurrected in SPIRIT and didn't had the HEAVENLY BODY as at then? Except you don't agree with the JW theology again.

Jozzy4: he hasnt returned to heaven to receive his heavenly glory which he had before the earth was made (John 17;5)

Achorladey: When I cited Acts 1:3 did it state he has returned to heaven? No is the answer.

But does that mean he has not received his glory or lost his glory?

John 1:14. So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of DIVINE FAVOR and TRUTH.

2 Peter 17 For he received from GOD the FATHER HONOR and GLORY when WORDS such as THESE were CONVEYED to HIM by the MAGNIFICENT GLORY: “This is my Son, my BELOVED, WHOM I MYSELF have APPROVED.”18 Yes, these words we heard coming from HEAVEN while we were WITH HIM in the holy mountain.


Hebrews 1:5,6 For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my son! Today I have fathered you”? And in another place he says, “I will be his father and he will be my son.” 6 But when he again brings his FIRSTBORN into the world, he says, “Let all the angels of God WORSHIP HIM!” 

After all, it is still in the NAME of JESUS CHRIST every knee must BOW. Hahahahaha That's is the name he was given right from BIRTH. So how come did he LOST THE GLORY.

Jozzy4: that glory is not earthly, in fact he had to empty it and be born of a woman to walk this earth ,those disciples cant behold it, . back to heaven , Christ is now heavenly WITH GLORY.

Achorladey: The scripture below will be just fine for the above comment.

So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a VIEW of HIS GLORY, a GLORY such as BELONGS to an ONLY -BEGOTTEN SON from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth.


Jozzy4: unless u mean he will have to be born as human a second time to as to empty his glory and come to earth.

Achorladey: The ASSUMPTION above can only be from your own THINKING not MINE.

When he was RESURRECTED did he ENTERED into the womb of MARY in order to get a MATERIALIZED FLESH and BONE for those that Acts 1:3 mentioned could see him? Hahahahaha!

The reason I asked you earlier in this post WHY DID HE MATERIALIZED when he(Jesus Christ) was RESURRECTED in order to be SEEN by others? Did Jesus have his HEAVENLY BODY as at then or not?


Jozzy4: like captivator said. u are making a useless argument.

Achorladey: After reading you will know if indeed the point of your friend had made is valid or not.

CAPTIVATOR:


It said Jesus entered with the cloud of heaven . HE IS HEAVENLY. not human
oh u think in your mind after coming before the ancient of days, he will go to earth to rule ? stark ignorance .

" [God] raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the HEAVENLY PLACES,... not only in this system of things BUT ALSO IN THAT TO COME " _ Eph 1:20,21

what about his associate king and priest ?

Jesus replied two of his disciples ehom he promised to sit on thrones, sitting at my right hand and left hand is left for those whom the father has reserved it. clearly, they will be with him in the heavenly places

that bring to reality the earlier scripture " like the heavenly one, so also are those who are heavenly"

dont forget Dan 7:13,14 ... THE NATIONS ON EARTH AND PEOPLES ARE SUBJECTS serving the heaveanly king. LOL





you are just clueless, so something filled the earth yet people are streaming to it ? look at yourself .

the bolded reveal this kingdom and its ruler are heavenly, while the earthly kings are ruling . God set up that kingdom. it was invisible until it crushed them and extend its dominion to the earth.

dont forget Dan 7:13,14 ... THE NATIONS AND PEOPLES ARE SUBJECTS serving the heaveanly king



THATS WHAT destroyed your theory. he is seated in the heavenly places now and forever!

and the nations are his subjects as shown at Daniel 7:13,14 not kings.

CAPTIVATOR: It said Jesus entered with the cloud of heaven . HE IS HEAVENLY. not human
oh u think in your mind after coming before the ancient of days, he will go to earth to rule ? stark ignorance.

Achorladey: Let me rephrase the above.......

It is said They will SEE the SON of MAN ARRIVING on the CLOUDS of HEAVEN with power and great glory. He is indeed HEAVENLY not HUMAN.

Oh u think in your mind after going back into the heaven before the ancient of days, he cannot come back to earth to rule?

STARK IGNORANCE indeed.

CAPTIVATOR: "[God] raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the HEAVENLY PLACES,... not only in this system of things BUT ALSO IN THAT TO COME" Eph 1:20,21

Achorladey: This is Ephesians 1:20,21

20 which he exercised toward Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above every government and authority and power and lordship and every name that is named, not only in this system of things but also in that to come.

You want to try colour the verse to mean JESUS was seated PERMANENTLY in heaven abi? Hahahahaha.

Emphasis here on the AUTHORITY JESUS now HAS. Even before he was RESURRECTED back into HEAVEN and SEATED there, Matthew 28:18 said WHAT?

Matthew 28:18 Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: “ALL AUTHORITY has been GIVEN me in HEAVEN and on the EARTH. Equally telling you all things are made SUBJECT under his feet.

He was still on EARTH when he said THIS ooooooo. Abi was he ALREADY seated in HEAVENLY places when he said the above? Hahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR: what about his associate king and priest?

Achorladey: and what about them?

CAPTIVATOR: Jesus replied two of his disciples whom he promised to sit on thrones, sitting at my right hand and left hand is left for those whom the father has reserved it. clearly, they will be with him in the heavenly places.

Achorladey: Just show us HOW it was CLEARLY stated in the scripture you cited that they will be with him in the HEAVEN. This is the scripture below though.

Matthew 20: 20,21 Then the mother of the sons of Zebʹe·dee approached him with her sons, doing obeisance and asking for something from him. 21 He said to her: “What do you want?” She replied to him: “Give the word that these two sons of mine may sit down, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your Kingdom.”

Matthew 20:23.....He said to them: “You will indeed drink my cup, but to sit down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.

CAPTIVATOR: that bring to reality the earlier scripture " like the heavenly one, so also are those who are heavenly"

Achorladey: Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST the HEAVENLY ONE from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST(HEAVENLY like the HEAVENLY ONE) ON THE EARTH?

CAPTIVATOR: dont forget Dan 7:13,14 ... THE NATIONS ON EARTH AND PEOPLES ARE SUBJECTS serving the heaveanly king. LOL

Achorladey: At the time Christ made the statement in Matthew 28:18 was he HEAVENLY or NOT? Is his statement not an INDICATOR that all things are made to subject to him?
and yet the above still do not change this question below

Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST the HEAVENLY ONE from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST ON THE EARTH?

CAPTIVATOR: you are just clueless, so something filled the earth yet people are streaming to it ? look at yourself.

Achorladey: Micah 4:1 In the final part of the days, The MOUNTAIN of the house of Jehovah Will become FIRMLY ESTABLISHED above the top of the mountains,And it will be raised up above the HILLS,And to IT PEOPLES WILL STREAM.


Did you read the scripture at all? Mr CLUELESS detector! That's the scripture above again, read one more time.

Here is another for you to ponder

They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my HOLY MOUNTAIN, Because the EARTH will CERTAINLY be FILLED with the knowledge of JEHOVAH as the waters cover the sea.

Perhaps the reason the PEOPLES STREAM INTO IT.

CAPTIVATOR: the bolded reveal this kingdom and its ruler are heavenly, while the earthly kings are ruling . God set up that kingdom. it was invisible until it crushed them and extend its dominion to the earth.

Achorladey:All of a sudden the kingdom has become INVISIBLE. Hahahahaha! How will it not be INVISIBLE when JESUS CHRIST came INVISIBLY too in years back. Hahahahaha. but will be VISIBLE when he ARRIVES to JUDGE in future. Hahahahaha!

Here is the scripture related to the one you BOLDED once again.

Daniel 2: 34,35 YOU LOOKED on UNTIL a STONE was cut OUT, not by HANDS, and it struck the image on its feet of iron and of clay and crushed them. 35 At that time the iron, the clay, the copper, the silver, and the gold were, all together, crushed and became like the chaff from the summer threshing floor, and the wind carried them away so that not a trace of them could be found. BUT the STONE that struck the IMAGE became a large MOUNTAIN, and it FILLED the WHOLE EARTH.


CAPTIVATOR: dont forget Dan 7:13,14 ... THE NATIONS AND PEOPLES ARE SUBJECTS serving the heaveanly king.

Achorladey: At the time Christ made the statement in Matthew 28:18 was he HEAVENLY or NOT? Is his statement not an INDICATOR that all things are made to subject to him?

and yet the above still do not change the scripture below

because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are THRONES or LORDSHIPS or GOVERNMENTS or AUTHORITIES. All other things have been created through him and for him.

and they are equally SUBJECTED to him.

CAPTIVATOR: THATS WHAT destroyed your theory.

Achorladey: You didn't even answer the question not to talk of destroying the theory.

CAPTIVATOR: he is seated in the heavenly places now and forever!

Achorladey: Daniel 12:1 During that time MIʹCHA·EL will STAND UP, the great prince who is standing in BEHALF of YOUR PEOPLE. And there will occur a time of distress such as has not occurred since there came to be a nation until that time. And during that time your people will escape, everyone who is found written down in the book.

Revelation 19: 11 I saw heaven opened, and look! a white horse. And the one seated on it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. 12 His eyes are a fiery flame, and on his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, 13 and he is clothed with an outer garment stained with blood, and he is called by the name The Word of God.

Revelation 19:19.....And I saw the wild beast and the KINGS of the EARTH and their armies gathered together to WAGE WAR against the ONE SEATED on the HORSE and AGAINST his ARMY.

Oga CAPTIVATOR is your LORD SEATED FOREVER or WILL STAND UP in future on BEHALF of HIS PEOPLE to WAGE WAR against HIS ENEMIES?

CAPTIVATOR: and the nations are his subjects as shown at Daniel 7:13,14 not kings.

Achorladey: At the time Christ made the statement in Matthew 28:18 was he HEAVENLY or NOT? Is his statement not an INDICATOR that all things are made to subject to him?

and yet the above still do not change this question below


Is there anything STOPPING CHRIST the HEAVENLY ONE from REIGNING with those he made KINGS and PRIEST ON THE EARTH?

Maximus69:

fearful lying pharisee winky max

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

rottennaija:


you should "belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God." - 1 Corinthians 3:23

Maximus69:
HOWEVER and WHATEVER YOU SAY SIR!

fearful lying pharisee laughing hyena max
how about what God's word says:

1Co 3:23  And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.