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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 8:41am On May 15, 2019 |
airmark:gospel |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:46am On May 15, 2019 |
Eruditor: Saying none will ever do it in years to come is too bold a statement considering that before Pep someone has done 93 points before. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 8:49am On May 15, 2019 |
Happ birthday unlimited22 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 8:54am On May 15, 2019 |
eph12: That’s what I’m saying. Pep is not responsible for all that. He’s not stopping Man Utd from getting a competent DoF like Txixia or stopping Chelsea from getting Marina away from transfer negotiations. Conte wanted VVD but his superior argued he’s not worth 75m. Liverpool bought him at 75m because he’s worth it to them. Ed refuse to pay 70m for Morata but instead bought Lukaku for 75m plus Rooney. City wanted Sanchez at the summer transfer window and they believe he was not worth the amount Arsenal were calling, he later went to Utd for more money. Whether another manager will do so well with the squad at his disposal is another thing entirely. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 8:56am On May 15, 2019 |
Unlimited22: Happy birthday bro. Age gracefully and joyfully |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:01am On May 15, 2019 |
larride: You are getting it wrong again. I didn't ask anyone to blame pep for others stupidity. You claimed that 'nobody' stopped other clubs from spending, which was wrong. Conte unlike Fraudiola had no final say on getting his targets. In fact Fraudiola would never work in that environment that Conte worked and won epl in his first attempt. Matic was to be sold and Conte wasn't carried along. Emenalo confirmed that Conte was unhappy for turning down his Lukaku's interest for Morata. If you think the same transfer policy have no effect on coaches plans and what operates at City is the same at Chelsea then I need to let this slide. Chelsea frustrated Contes plan, that's a fact. You should only talk about your team regarding successfully getting your coach's key targets. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:03am On May 15, 2019 |
Unlimited22: Happy Birthday, more achievements and blessings. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:05am On May 15, 2019 |
Eruditor: Sterling, Sane are top 20 wingers and head and shoulders above Pedro who is Nolito level. Pedro is a starter for Chelsea. Fernandinho has always been above Casemiro in my eyes.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:11am On May 15, 2019 |
larride: Nobody blamed pep. He was lucky that a team like Chelsea were foolish not to have allowed Conte build on his first seasons achievement. Vvd was 60m not 75m when Conte wanted him. Stones was bought by Fraudiola for 50m or so. That didnt stop them from spending again on Laporte. He was given such financial backing that he changed goalies in two seasons like its nothing. Conte in same peps environment, would be smiling before every match. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 9:22am On May 15, 2019 |
Unlimited22:happy baidai |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:40am On May 15, 2019 |
airmark: Go and ask Pep why he left Barca in 2012. Barca board had started behaving anyhow, abrogating power to themselves and Pep walked. City hired Soriano and Bergiristan 2 years ahead of Pep in hopes of luring Pep, to show you Pep is the real power at City. A player knows if they do anyhow, they cannot run to the Sporting Director or CEO because they are all parapo. A player will naturally behave himself in such environment, or become an outcast and hurt his career. Unlike in Chelsea where players will run to Emenalo or Marina or Roman to get what they want. For example, imagine Pep pinpoint Claudio Bravo for replacement, and City bosses instead of replacing him, offer him new contract. This is exactly what happened with Marcos Alonso in 2017 to where Chelsea gave a bumper contract to a player fingered for replacement by the manager. Now, you will struggle to find a buyer for Alonso given the new wages they gave him. Every successive manager will need to mollycuddle Alonso for the next few years when he is just not up to standard defensively. Same with Luiz. Conte had fingered him for phasing out but Chelsea will tell him Luiz cost a lot of money, is on big contract and is one of Roman favourites, so you need to make space for him in your team. This is the equivalent of City telling Pep he must continue making space for Mangala because Mangala cost £42m. Same way if City decide to sell player Pep wants to keep like Fernandinho as was the case with Matic. All these things antagonise managers and lead to poor performance. Conte foul mood in 2017/18 was as a result of this and created a bad environment with the players. He was also partly responsible for agreeing to some crap players like Bakayoko, Zappa and co so I want absolve him completely. What I would say is manager and board must have complete synergy which is the difference between City and Chelsea. When Pep noticed that Barca board were doing anyhow in 2012, he went on sabbatical, rather than work in a fractious environment. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:48am On May 15, 2019 |
Eruditor: I once said something on scummy thread that if pep decide to sign a player from lobi stars or soun fc of ogbomosho and another coach decides to sign let say neymar and mbappe from psg all this pep haters will start telling us how pep has been buying the best players and not the coaches who signed players from psg. Beside all the players they tend to hype after playing for pep can't be recommended for their club by them prior to when pep decides to sign them. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 10:03am On May 15, 2019 |
KingAzubuike:So why did the ready made players go back to back seasons trophyless at Barca before Pep? 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 10:06am On May 15, 2019 |
airmark: I’m not arguing against this sir. I’m against you saying he was lucky. His team is the best team in the league for the past 2 season. If Conte had gotten Lukaku and VVD, there’s no guarantee that Conte would have won the league either. All these are possibilities. It’s speak more about Chelsea, Man Utd and the rest not supporting their manager 100% but the truth is that these club were spending also but the spending were on average joes. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 10:07am On May 15, 2019 |
hensben:So Guardiola was not instrumental to his team achievements? He did nothing Special with his Barca team. We are saying the same thing . Using your logic Messi and Ronaldo Have done nothing special in football because all they have done is played for the biggest teams in the world and supported by world class players. Vardy and mahrez carrying Leicester to Epl glory is greater than all they have done. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:26am On May 15, 2019 |
Ibime: This same team that finished 10th was the same team that won the league previously. So cut them some slack and not forgetting his midfield to forward position were Costa, Hazard, Willian, fabregas, Mikel, Matic, with an option of signing back salah. Brilliant players all through and not in any way inferior to the man City players. Beside recent happenings have shown it's always easier to win with Chelsea than any other team because of our resilience, that is why a useless Sarri who hasn't been to any finals with his previous teams can boast of appearing in epl and Europa League finals, benitez can win Europa league can win after just 4 to 6 months in charge.RDM could win ucl and fa Cup not spending up to a year. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:54am On May 15, 2019 |
sod09:Thanks man |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:55am On May 15, 2019 |
airmark:Thanks boss. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:56am On May 15, 2019 |
Obere4u:Oga mi. Thanks. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:56am On May 15, 2019 |
EvilMetahuman:Thanks boss 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:56am On May 15, 2019 |
iheanyi40:Thanks oga |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 10:57am On May 15, 2019 |
Happy unlimited22. Unlimited blessings to you this year and beyond. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:58am On May 15, 2019 |
neezar:Thanks boss |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:58am On May 15, 2019 |
afrodoc2:Senior doc. Thank you so much. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:00am On May 15, 2019 |
larride:Thanks boss |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:00am On May 15, 2019 |
nihilistjnr:Oga Nihilistjnr. Thanks for the advice and guidance last year. Thank you so much |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:01am On May 15, 2019 |
humblesteve:Thanks sir |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:01am On May 15, 2019 |
popizaino:Thanks man. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:03am On May 15, 2019 |
Coutinho14:Thank you so much boss |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:04am On May 15, 2019 |
raumdeuter:Oga Dayo. Thanks a whole lot, boss. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:15am On May 15, 2019 |
When I tell you about shape shifters. Have a picture of ibime in your head. This was what ibime said about john stones, the same one he's claiming to be a top defender that Pep used. The same John stones he called a scam Ibime: 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:25am On May 15, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Nonsense. My position on Stones is well known and often repeated. Don't act like you are revealing something new. I don't rate Stones as a pure defender same as my position on Ramos, Varane, Pique etc. However I will not deny them a place in the top 20 in their position, nor say they don't belong in top teams. In the possession based teams they play in, they always have one of these types of defenders who are great on the ball but average on the basics of defending. Such players are not for Chelsea who require pure defenders, but I won't deny them their place at the top table in their positions. 3 Likes |
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