GrabHisBalls:
Those of you supporting Dany's actions so far are cruel. If you don't see anything wrong, then you shouldn't be among humans. Before the bell was rang, the people surrendered. Even Jon was confused when she began burning the innocents. She heard the bell and still went ahead to burn down houses, women, children, unarmed men and what-not. Varys was right. She lacks the qualities of a ruler.

Who even said she's mad? Her motive is to destroy the city so Jon won't have anything left to rule. She's simply intoxicated by power.

From this episode henceforth, I wish her cold death. I am pissed.

You have not answered his valid questions. Discuss the questions and make sense of it, it's not like your family members were among those Dracarys-ed in Kings Landing...so chill.

bixton:


Just as you have ,"The Mountain" to Cersei so is "Greyworm" to the Mother of dragons.
Danny need not to tell Greyworm about Jon's real identity. While in winterfell, there were not much loved. Guess its justifiable that the north loves themselves rather than strangers.

Danny told Greyworm that you'll know when you get my signal. Also don't forget Missandei was the only person who Greyworm came to love and care for. And such from what he said made him weak. He is the only unsullied who is without weakness from birth through training and that's how he became the head amongst them all.
Remember what he promised her when the war comes to an end. Well that is not binding on him any more. So I'd expect his character change.
Jon became too reserved for numerous reasons. He has chosen to honour his words.
Let's see what E6 has in store for us.

And that my friends is the explanation to the argument about Greyworm going on a killing spree even after the Lannister Army surrendered. Some of you need to watch scenes intently to get the full picture.

Greyworm threw his spear ONLY after Dany had taken Drogon into the air and began destroying everyone and everything. He never acts on his own, always follows orders.

bixton:



You need to watch the seasons' again and get a different view.
In as much as its a movie, you should also be aware of ancient stories in times of war.........
1) She is the heir to the throne and in her quest to conquer those who refused to bend the knee will be given the ultimate punishment/sentence. The other option was to put them in prison, seize their lands, strip them of their titles, etc,etc.....but she got no time for such.
Her burning act sent the right message. And that did in no way qualify her to be called the mad queen.

2) She was never the mad queen. Vary's was only toying with the possibility of making things right which he claims. He has his reasons same ways little finger does what he does. Vary was warned and he took his chances. The roles played by both Varys and Tyrion was sort of to have a balance of character. Varys claims to do whatever he does for the interest of the throne and we all see where the interest takes us to after the death of more than 5 kings. Tyrion is not interested in such scheming interests.

3) Dany is filled with hatred over alot of things and given the history of the mad king she refused making certain decisions and allowed her appointed staffs to play their roles effectively. A true leader needs such traits even if he/she may likely not adhere to the advices/decisions from others.

4) Two things made her do that. 1, The beheading of Missandei. 2, Yes she was enraged, and she never wanted to believe the sounding of the bells will actually make Cersei to surrender and Tyrion has actually been outsmarted by Cersei on his every move. With just one Dragon to her breast there's no need playing soft. You don't expect her to lose all her children and not win the last war.

5) Yes, she coveted the throne and wanted it at all cost. So she expected Jon who is a nephew to make his real identity a secret. She has previously made her intentions known to Sansa when she refused letting go, of the Northern Kingdoms to be on their own and have their king.

She's the heir of nothing. Under Westerosi Law, no woman can lay claim to the Iron Throne. She never had any claim from the beginning. Her act of burning people is only sending a message to the people that she's as mad as her father. If she can't exercise the patience to use those other options you mention then she's not fit to rule anybody

eazyhifii:


Was just passing by and I saw this, shey you dey whine me niii. So you mean humans in game of thrones are somehow from krypton.

Arbi na animal anatomy, so because it's a fantasy they could behead someone and the person still sip zobo.

your head is correct.

Funaki:


The guy Jon beheaded for always insulting him and insubordination when he was the Lord commander of the night watch. I thought it was play.

Janos Slynt

raumdeuter:
Ringing the bell signifies surrender?

Who rang the bell and surrendered?

Was it the soldiers of Kings Landing who surrendered and rang the bell?

Was it the ruler of KL Cersei who surrendered and rang the bell or

was it Jamie who was tutored to ring the bell by the serial betrayer Tyrion in a bid to save his sister?

Baba oil dey your head as usual...

GoT is a spectacularly impressive show, so much so because almost everything would have an explanation if one pays attention to details.

Let us all remember that TYRION is the one who told Dany that once the bells are rung and the gates opened, it means the city has surrendered.

This is the same Tyrion who so far this season has lost his influence and good standing with his Queen. The same Tyrion whose so-called intelligent mind has produced nothing but horrors for her. The same Tyrion who in this same episode was scolded by Dany for telling Varys about Jon's true parentage without first talking to her when he first found out. For God sakes, he is the Hand of the Queen yet so far, he has given Dany numerous reasons to distrust him.

According to him, Cercei said she would fight with the North - He was wrong.
According to him, Jamie should be spared for risking his life to come to Winterfell to join the fight after abandoning Cercei - He was wrong.
Then the Hand of the Queen hears a secret about something that would threaten the legitimacy of his Queen, what did he do? He told the one person who is known to be a master of whispers without first informing the Queen about what he just heard.

So people really thought that after all this, in combination with the death of Missandei, the loss of most of her army, the loss of her Dragons...that somehow, Dany should have listened yet again to Tyrion saying "Once the bells are rung, it means they have surrendered"..
Allow me to laugh please, because anyone who thinks Tyrion still had any right to be giving wise counsel or that Dany was still obliged to believe or listen to anything he says, has definitely NOT being paying attention.

Come to think of it, Jamie is the one who rang the bell. Jamie who was kept prisoner by Dany, who was then helped to escape by Tyrion.
What are the possibilities that Dany hadn't already found out that Jamie had escaped as at the time the war began? Not everything has to be shown on screen, we need to infer certain things.

Jamie was captured in the evening of the previous day, guarded by unsullied soldiers who Tyrion (the same Tyrion oo) dismissed, claiming he is Hand of the Queen. Jamie escaped that night using the cover of darkness. By morning or even that same night, the unsullied soldiers would have returned and found out he had escaped, reported it to their commander Greyworm, who in turn would have told Dany well before the war began.

Putting everything into perspective, why should anyone call Daenerys Storm-born of House Targaryen a mad Queen for doing what she did even after the bells of surrender were rung?

Give Cercei a dragon and she would have been the true mad queen in this show because we all know what she would have done.
A Queen that used wild fire to bring down an entire building full of innocent spectators, is not mad.
A Queen that captured Missandei and already had her in chains, but still felt the need to behead her as a show of power which was completely unnecessary, is not mad.
A queen that used innocent defenceless women and children as shield to protect herself is not mad.
It's now the Queen that killed these innocent defenseless women and children to get her pound of flesh, considering all the betrayals and deaths she has endured so far all because she tried to act like a reasonable ruler who cared...this is the Queen that is called mad.

I laugh hysterically in the name of the old gods, the seven, the lord of light, and the new god, at how Daenerys Storm-born of House Targaryen is now called a mad Queen.


Cc: GrabHisBalls

crackhaus:

Everyone should have heard of Jon dying and coming back by now. A secret that more than two people know is no longer a secret, but information (RIP Lord Varys).

By the way, how come you didn't ask this same question when Arya spoke to Jon for the first time in the Godswood?
She asked, "How did you survive a stab wound to the heart?"

We were not shown when, where, or how Arya found out. So it's safe to assume the information is not news anymore.

The abilities of the red priests/priestesses are known. Remember Thoros?

Arya asked him whether he could resurrect someone without a head (her father).

Hermionegranger:
She's the heir of nothing. Under Westerosi Law, no woman can lay claim to the Iron Throne. She never had any claim from the beginning. Her act of burning people is only sending a message to the people that she's as mad as her father. If she can't exercise the patience to use those other options you mention then she's not fit to rule anybody

Where was this law when Cercei crowned herself Queen?

kenturkish:

I get that the mind sees what it wants to see, Jon removed the 1st set of stones and said half of the northern armies are gone, grey worm removed the stones of the unsullied to also indicate half of them being wiped out, and the Lord Royce of the Vail followed suit, what other stuff are you talking about.

This is exactly what happened.

crackhaus:

Everyone should have heard of Jon dying and coming back by now. A secret that more than two people know is no longer a secret, but information (RIP Lord Varys).

By the way, how come you didn't ask this same question when Arya spoke to Jon for the first time in the Godswood?
She asked, "How did you survive a stab wound to the heart?"

We were not shown when, where, or how Arya found out. So it's safe to assume the information is not news anymore.

I agree that every Northman, woman and child should know about it by now, but what about the Realm? Don't you think the rest of the Realm needs to be intimated about this information as well? Shouldn't ravens be sent, already, so that learned maesters at the Citadel are properly briefed ? Or is it that Jon and the Stark family are pussyfooting about the whole issue simply because there's shame in it for the Warden of the North? The shame that he failed as Lord Commander, and his own men mutinied against him just like Mormont? Of course everyone else in the Realm would want to know how he died.

J2381:
And the real hero in season 8 episode 5 is....

Ser Bronn of the blackwater. Dude was the first to know Cersei we doomed... and to think he was no where near Kings Landing when sh1t hit the fan. Lol.

No Riverrun for him. No Highgarden either.

crackhaus:

Where was this law when Cercei crowned herself Queen?

She got away with it because most of the great houses and their great lords who would have enforced that law were decimated due to the war. But that's not the issue here. The issue is whether Daenerys even had a claim in the first place to warrant her stylizing herself as rightful Queen of the Seven Kingdoms right from season 1/2..and the answer is no

Aystarz:



I agree that every Northman, woman and child should know about it by now, but what about the Realm? Don't you think the rest of the Realm needs to be intimated about this information as well? Shouldn't ravens be sent, already, so that learned maesters at the Citadel are properly briefed ? Or is it that Jon and the Stark family are pussyfooting about the whole issue simply because there's shame in it for the Warden of the North? The shame that he failed as Lord Commander, and his own men mutinied against him just like Mormont? Of course everyone else in the Realm would want to know how he died.

You're shifting the conversation.

In your previous comment, you were concerned about those present in the hall when Tormund made the statement, NOT the entire realm.

Besides, don't you think something the Northmen and anyone in the North knows, will certainly find it's way to other parts of the realm? That's if it hasn't already.

About the Maesters at the Citadel, those eunuchs seem to me like they are never current with very recent information. An example is when Sam arrived there and handed over the letter from Jon as Lord Commander sending him to the Citadel, the response from the Maester was that their records do not even show Jon as the Lord Commander.

Hermionegranger:
She got away with it because most of the great houses and their great lords who would have enforced that law were decimated due to the war. But that's not the issue here. The issue is whether Daenerys even had a claim in the first place to warrant her stylizing herself as rightful Queen of the Seven Kingdoms right from season 1/2..and the answer is no

According to Targaryen succession laws, what happens when there is no living male heir to the Iron Throne?

bond77:

Honestly that is exactly what I thought too the cup was just too visible to be ignored but again while we are still debating on this, another mistake or should we call it "easter egg" occurred in the last episode( Jamie growing his hand back). so could this be another mistake or perhaps the producers are trying to get into our heads?.

from season 1 - 7 I am not sure there were errors this gigantic as this or "Easter eggs". so how come this season which is the last and which was supposed to create a lasting impression on the viewers is filled with so many loopholes?

I saw nothing of the sort.

J2381:
prequel you say. I wonder where they'll start from.

It's already in the works. Will begin airing late 2020 or early 2021, brace yourself.

No dragons in it though.

Hermionegranger:
She got away with it because most of the great houses and their great lords who would have enforced that law were decimated due to the war. But that's not the issue here. The issue is whether Daenerys even had a claim in the first place to warrant her stylizing herself as rightful Queen of the Seven Kingdoms right from season 1/2..and the answer is no

show where they said a woman can't rule the iron throne, anyway laws can be changed, people were the one that made the law in the first place, so it doesn't matter, dany can rule and the legitimacy of MR SHE IS MY QUEEN BLA BLA BLA is there oh, but he has to get a army to take the throne from her and the last time I check Jon does not have a army strong enough to take the throne, all he can depend on is Dany dieing so he can rule ( which he will be a terrible ruler)

Nicolars:


Stop spreading rumors... What of tommen??

He dived from above, psycho

Why should they bend the knee?

Willie2015:


You are not lookin at the big picture....
Thats what leadership is all about ... you must learn to take hard decisions .....
Sam,s father and brother had the option to bend the knee but they refused ..... Dany took the decision....
The decision was not different from Jon Snow that hanged his brothers in the Night Watch and a Kid
Jon Snow ran away after that singular act .......thats why Jon always refuse to be a leader....
Cos you must do the needful when the need arises.....
There is no leader without advisers..... so sayin Dany cant make decision herself is an understatement .....
Haba.. Do you knw the number of times Dany save pple by just takin decisions..
Is it Tyrion and Vary that betrayed her on just a piece of info.....
Or Jon Snow that have been behavin strange since he know that he is a Tygayraen....
Is Jon so stupid to know that once he told Sansa ..... it is the same as tellin the whole world that he is the owner of the Iron throne...
Is there any war that innocent people dont die .... Cut Dany some slack.....
Listen to Cersei words.... KL will not fall...definitely ...not today....
So it is still possible that anyone can get a good shot at that Dragon....
[b]Lastly .... Dany will make a better leader than Jon Snow....anyday... anytime...
Dany aint mad....

J2381:
he's alive, is he not?

Though I'll love to see how things end as regard him.

Of course cersei is dead, so Riverrun is gone for him. Tyrion/Jamie might be stripped of their titles next episode which makes High garden an impossibility for him.

crackhaus:

It's already in the works. Will begin airing late 2020 or early 2021, brace yourself.

No dragons in it though.

HBO doesn't want people to cancel their subscription after GOT ends these people are desperate

Cinderallagirl:
show where they said a woman can't rule the iron throne, anyway laws can be changed, people were the one that made the law in the first place, so it doesn't matter, dany can rule and the legitimacy of MR SHE IS MY QUEEN BLA BLA BLA is there oh, but he has to get a army to take the throne from her and the last time I check Jon does not have a army strong enough to take the throne, all he can depend on is Dany dieing so he can rule ( which he will be a terrible ruler)

This your analogy is somehow. They can both rule together.

Willie2015:


You are not lookin at the big picture....
Thats what leadership is all about ... you must learn to take hard decisions .....
Sam,s father and brother had the option to bend the knee but they refused ..... Dany took the decision....
The decision was not different from Jon Snow that hanged his brothers in the Night Watch and a Kid
Jon Snow ran away after that singular act .......thats why Jon always refuse to be a leader....
Cos you must do the needful when the need arises.....
There is no leader without advisers..... so sayin Dany cant make decision herself is an understatement .....
Haba.. Do you knw the number of times Dany save pple by just takin decisions..
Is it Tyrion and Vary that betrayed her on just a piece of info.....
Or Jon Snow that have been behavin strange since he know that he is a Tygayraen....
Is Jon so stupid to know that once he told Sansa ..... it is the same as tellin the whole world that he is the owner of the Iron throne...
Is there any war that innocent people dont die .... Cut Dany some slack.....
Listen to Cersei words.... KL will not fall...definitely ...not today....
So it is still possible that anyone can get a good shot at that Dragon....
Lastly .... Dany will make a better leader than Jon Snow....anyday... anytime...
Dany aint mad....

@first bolded
She took the same decision her father (The Mad King) took... these decisions were what made people conclude that he's mad, so if you're gonna defend Dany's actions, then you can as well defend her father's actions.

On the flip side, Jon hanged his killers, the people that killed him - Jon -. A kid who is bold enough to stab a man who had a positive relationship with him is no longer a kid, and under normal circumstances, that boy will be sentenced to death in the real world.

@second bolded
Saving people by screaming "Dracarys" is poor decision-making. It was only going to take a little time before the switch flipped. If you followed her conversation with Tyrion in the throne room, you would see that she had made up her mind on burning Kings Landing and its people. Only Greyworm knew of it.

"Mercy is our strength. Our mercy toward future generations who will never again be held hostage by a tyrant." - The Mad Queen

To her, she was saving future generations - that would love her - from a tyrant by burning the present generation. If this isn't madness, i don't know what it is.

@third bolded
Varys served under her father, so he has the best experience when it comes to knowing the King/Queen's state of mind, which is why he was bothered about hers. He had noticed certain similarities between her and her father which were huge red flags.

Jon's behavior stemmed from certain reasons...
1. Her suggestion to keep his mouth shut over his own true identity. That was actually a betrayal on her own side and showed how desperate she was for the Iron throne.
2. Her constant talk of how the people love him and don't love her. This showed clear jealousy, same jealousy her father had for Tywin Lannister because he was loved and respected over him - The Mad King - (Which was one of the things Varys noticed that bothered him)
3. She is his aunt. That's quite tough to accept with open arms.

@fourth bolded
There are casualties in war, but when you deliberately choose to kill people because they don't love you like those in Essos, then that's nothing but madness.

The show writers made sure to show us the extent of Dany's madness when they showed that little girl hiding behind a wall, trying to avoid the dragonfire while her mother was being raped. Did you see how that girl was panting? the fear in her eyes? what did that little girl do to deserve this? did she participate in fighting for any throne?
That particular scene depicted the ordeal of other children caught in the wildfire. Or Dany didn't know that there were children in Kings Landing?

@fifth bolded
Dany will not make a better leader than Jon Snow.

1. Jon - as King in the North - bent the knee to get the dragon glass which could save the North from the Night King. Daenerys will not bend the knee to anybody no matter what happens.

2. Jon is the people's champion, which is why he is loved by them. Dany is not, all she cares about is ruling the seven kingdoms, she believes it is her destiny.

3. Despite knowing that he - Jon - is the true heir to the throne, he still went round saying "She is my Queen". Dany on the other side, wanted him to keep shut about "his true identity", that is expecting him to live out the rest of his life without telling anyone who he is. That is the height of selfishness and deceit.


Arya Stark watched her father's head get chopped off, watched her mother's throat get slit, lost her brothers - Rob & Rickon -. She didn't go around killing everybody in Kings Landing.

[quote author=crackhaus post=78433072]
You're shifting the conversation.

In your previous comment, you were concerned about those present in the hall when Tormund made the statement, NOT the entire realm.

Besides, don't you think something the Northmen and anyone in the North knows, will certainly find it's way to other parts of the realm? That's if it hasn't already.

About the Maesters at the Citadel, those eunuchs seem to me like they are never current with very recent information. An example is when Sam arrived there and handed over the letter from Jon as Lord Commander sending him to the Citadel[b], the response from the Maester was that their records do not even show Jon as the Lord Commander.[[/b]/quote]
They won't know what is happening if they don't get Ravens from where it happened. So I don't blame them.

GloryIsaac:


@first bolded
She took the same decision her father (The Mad King) took... these decisions were what made people conclude that he's mad, so if you're gonna defend Dany's actions, then you can as well defend her father's actions.

On the flip side, Jon hanged his killers, the people that killed him - Jon -. A kid who is bold enough to stab a man who had a positive relationship with him is no longer a kid, and under normal circumstances, that boy will be sentenced to death in the real world.

@second bolded
Saving people by screaming "Dracarys" is poor decision-making. It was only going to take a little time before the switch flipped. If you followed her conversation with Tyrion in the throne room, you would see that she had made up her mind on burning Kings Landing and its people. Only Greyworm knew of it.

"Mercy is our strength. Our mercy toward future generations who will never again be held hostage by a tyrant." - The Mad Queen

To her, she was saving future generations - that would love her - from a tyrant by burning the present generation. If this isn't madness, i don't know what it is.

@third bolded
Varys served under her father, so he has the best experience when it comes to knowing the King/Queen's state of mind, which is why he was bothered about hers. He had noticed certain similarities between her and her father which were huge red flags.

Jon's behavior stemmed from certain reasons...
1. Her suggestion to keep his mouth shut over his own true identity. That was actually a betrayal on her own side and showed how desperate she was for the Iron throne.
2. Her constant talk of how the people love him and don't love her. This showed clear jealousy, same jealousy her father had for Tywin Lannister because he was loved and respected over him - The Mad King - (Which was one of the things Varys noticed that bothered him)
3. She is his aunt. That's quite tough to accept with open arms.

@fourth bolded
There are casualties in war, but when you deliberately choose to kill people because they don't love you like those in Essos, then that's nothing but madness.

The show writers made sure to show us the extent of Dany's madness when they showed that little girl hiding behind a wall, trying to avoid the dragonfire while her mother was being raped. Did you see how that girl was panting? the fear in her eyes? what did that little girl do to deserve this? did she participate in fighting for any throne?
That particular scene depicted the ordeal of other children caught in the wildfire. Or Dany didn't know that there were children in Kings Landing?

@fifth bolded
Dany will not make a better leader than Jon Snow.

1. Jon - as King in the North - bent the knee to get the dragon glass which could save the North from the Night King. Daenerys will not bend the knee to anybody no matter what happens.

2. Jon is the people's champion, which is why he is loved by them. Dany is not, all she cares about is ruling the seven kingdoms, she believes it is her destiny.

3. Despite knowing that he - Jon - is the true heir to the throne, he still went round saying "She is my Queen". Dany on the other side, wanted him to keep shut about "his true identity", that is expecting him to live out the rest of his life without telling anyone who he is. That is the height of selfishness and deceit.


Arya Stark watched her father's head get chopped off, watched her mother's throat get slit, lost her brothers - Rob & Rickon -. She didn't go around killing everybody in Kings Landing.

When did Arya stark watch her mother's throat get slit?

blingxx:


HBO doesn't want people to cancel their subscription after GOT ends these people are desperate

Lol, I doubt it's desperation. They have very decent shows on the network besides GoT.

I see it as more about making profit, GoT has been very profitable to the network so it only makes sense to do something else that will attract a following as GoT has done.
Sequels or prequels are very good ways of doing that.

bixton:



Good, Good , Good.
Those words reinvigorated Arya and if I'm not mistaken that's like the second time she spoke against not giving in to death.

The Night king was a pretty nice guy. It was good the producer/director gave him 2 special facial expressions in his entire role.
I so wished there were not in a rush to put the movie to conclusion. There are so many secrets left unexplained.

Exactly. I was so disappointed with how the Night King ended. So much build-up about him, so much fear whenever his name was mentioned, and see how he ended. We didn't even get to see how good he was with the sword, that was so painful.

JhyMedex:

it's simply a case of hanging a bad name on a dog so u cld hang it...

This is woman who cld av taken KL on countless occasions bt refused to becos she didn't want too many civilian casualties...

she was able to achieve dis.. (the city surrendered )..Then all og a sudden she goes completely out of character n desceneds into a rampage...

Killing women n children..d same pple she has always protected , ryt from her tym beyond the narrow sea..

shame on the producers ..dey had to kill her off...

One thing has always been certain about GoT, it’s not a fairytale movie where you’ll have a happy ending and the prince marries the princess and they’ll live happily ever after, I knew this when Ned Stark died.

The whole show is a movie, the producers are following a script, HBO is a multi million dollar company, they spend money and time to make this movie, hired professionals, this movie has broken so many records, set new standards so it’s funny when I see people who haven’t written a church play complaining that the movie is crap.

I feel the only reason there’s so many complaints about this season is because it’s the last one, people don’t actually want it to end so they’re acting out by criticizing it.

GoT is a just a movie, a great one at that, let’s just enjoy it and appreciate the work and efforts of the producers, Emilia Clark is a simple person in real life, she’s just playing her part, it’s her job, she’s an actress, people are getting too emotional about the whole thing, it’s a fvcking movie

ThothHermes:
Janos Slynt

The guy got what he deserved. Back in season 2, he killed babies on the order of cersei just to end the life of Robert's bastards in kingslanding.

Aystarz:



He may yet be the one to go to Pentos and start all over afterall. Which scene, would you say, got the more emotion out of Tyrion - the one we saw with Jaime in the last episode or the one with Oberyn,as the Dornish Prince tells him about how everyone, including his own sister , treated him like a monster back at Casterly Rock?

The one with Oberyn broke Tyrion's heart. Especially when he mentioned what Cersei did to him before Jamie made her stop

crackhaus:

Baba oil dey your head as usual...

GoT is a spectacularly impressive show, so much so because almost everything would have an explanation if one pays attention to details.

Let us all remember that TYRION is the one who told Dany that once the bells are rung and the gates opened, it means the city has surrendered.

This is the same Tyrion who so far this season has lost his influence and good standing with his Queen. The same Tyrion whose so-called intelligent mind has produced nothing but horrors for her. The same Tyrion who in this same episode was scolded by Dany for telling Varys about Jon's true parentage without first talking to her when he first found out. For God sakes, he is the Hand of the Queen yet so far, he has given Dany numerous reasons to distrust him.

According to him, Cercei said she would fight with the North - He was wrong.
According to him, Jamie should be spared for risking his life to come to Winterfell to join the fight after abandoning Cercei - He was wrong.
Then the Hand of the Queen hears a secret about something that would threaten the legitimacy of his Queen, what did he do? He told the one person who is known to be a master of whispers without first informing the Queen about what he just heard.

So people really think that after all this, in combination with the death of Missandei, the loss of most of her army, the loss of her Dragons...that somehow, Dany should have listened yet again to Tyrion saying "Once the bells are rung, it means they have surrendered"..
Allow me to laugh please, because anyone who thinks Tyrion still had any right to be giving wise counsel or that Dany was still obliged to believe or listen to anything he says, has definitely NOT being paying attention.

Come to think of it, Jamie is the one who rang the bell. Jamie who was kept prisoner by Dany, who was then helped to escape by Tyrion.
What are the possibilities that Dany hadn't already found out that Jamie had escaped as at the time the war began? Not everything has to be shown on screen, we need to infer certain things.

Jamie was captured in the evening of the previous day, guarded by unsullied soldiers who Tyrion (the same Tyrion oo) dismissed, claiming he is Hand of the Queen. Jamie escaped that night using the cover of darkness. By morning or even that same night, the unsullied soldiers would have returned and found out he had escaped, reported it to their commander Greyworm, who in turn would have told Dany well before the war began.

Putting everything into perspective, why should anyone call Daenerys Storm-born of House Targaryen a mad Queen for doing what she did even after the bells of surrender were rung?

Give Cercei a dragon and she would have been the true mad queen in this show because we all know what she would have done.
A Queen that used wild fire to bring down an entire building full of innocent spectators, is not mad.
A Queen that captured Missandei and already had her in chains, but still felt the need to behead her as a show of power which was completely unnecessary, is not mad.
A queen that used innocent defenceless women and children as shield to protect herself is not mad.
It's now the Queen that killed these innocent defenseless women and children to get her pound of flesh, considering all the betrayals and deaths she has endured so far all because she tried to act like a reasonable ruler who cared...this is the Queen that is called mad.

I laugh hysterically in the name of the old gods, the seven, the lord of light, and the new god, at how Daenerys Storm-born of House Targaryen is now called a mad Queen.


Cc: GrabH.isBalls

In answering those questions, I'd have a reason to justify that massacre. We all know the kind of person cercei is as portrayed in the show right from season one. Drawing a comparison between cersei and Dany in this situation is outright madness. I thought Dany came to make a difference? I am not here to compare. All I'm saying is that nothing justifies that degree of massacre.

crackhaus:

You have not answered his valid questions. Discuss the questions and make sense of it, it's not like your family members were among those Dracarys-ed in Kings Landing...so chill.

Yes, my family members aren't in kingslanding, but that doesn't stop me from being human.

Aystarz:

Jason Momoa, the guy who played Khal Drogo, is the most underrated actor on this show.
Man got into that difficult character like he was born into it.

The guy acted Aquaman...