Cinderallagirl:
sorry oh, am not finish, people like you are the ones that make idiots seem like geniuses, people like you are the ones parents prays and fast not to have as a daughter, your picture should be taken as a symbol of the word FOOL, so people don't need to type the word fool, all the have to do is show your pic, and people get what they are saying.

Seriously I am tired of ur poo... Pooderallashit

crackhaus:

Don't ever put 'Robert' and 'Conquest' in the same sentence again.
How dare you?

Conquerors go to other lands to conquer them and rule them.
How can you be a subject of a king under his kingdom, then have him killed and say you conquered him?

It's called 'Usurping', 'Mutiny', or 'Coup'.

This guy! You're not serious o. Conquest doesn't just mean going to subdue people from other lands. Conquest in it's strictest sense means subjugation of an opposition entity through military might or force. It matters not if the conquering is done by an invader or as a result of Civil war which is what Robert's Rebellion is. Whether it is a revolution, mutiny, usurping or a coup all can be regarded as a conquest if it's successful.

Cinderallagirl:
it will surprise you that Dany won't die instead she might mount on Drogon and fly to somewhere far away from westeros, d&d always like suprising people, so don't count your chickens until they are hatched

That is my wish. Her boyfriend Daario is still at Mereen. The ex-slaves mostly love her. And lessons she learned in Kings Landing might help.

ThothHermes:
No one has a right to any throne. It's a savage world. Anyone who can summon enough military might to take the throne will take it. There were kings before Aegon came with his dragons.

There were Kings but there was no king of the seven kingdoms. Aegon came with his dragon to collapse the seven kingdoms into one administrative unit.

crackhaus:

Lmao.. You're reaching into your magic hat to pull out anything you can think of.

JennyOfOldstones

I can see you have your own magic hat too

Trying to say Dany was pushed just doesn't work, shes on her dragon she can just fly down to where cersei is and burn her down no one would care but instead she burning all of. Kings landing is just uncalled for that's like becos your family old generation did something bad to mine and I vow never to forgive that's just not good, why did she call herself the chain breaker when she don't know when to show mercy

Seun:

That is my wish. Her boyfriend Daario is still at Mereen. The ex-slaves mostly love her. And lessons she learned in Kings Landing might help.

What gives u d assistance that Dario is capable of governing mereen. As far as we know, not all the masters are dead. The one that survived can corrupt those Noble people again.

Cinderallagirl:
are you going cry , are you going to run home and tell your mummy, see this one that his face should be used on how important birth control is . Nobody want a retard for a son

Dany being a mad queen self better pass this poo

Sterope:
Her father was justly murdered which brought an end to the Targeryan rule.
This is not about Cersei.

Cersei is the one occupying the throne and she is trying to remove Cersei. If you and Kings Landing people have no problem with Cersei ruling then what is the problem with Daenerys ruling

Sterope:
GloryIsaac


She didn't even take a moment to think things true. It was all about her and her destiny.

Exactly. That has always been her aim, and she was going to get it one or the other.

From the beginning, Daenerys has been dancing close to madness, which got worse when her dragons matured ....

1. She watched her brother get crowned with molten gold. Her reason for not doing anything wasn't about him being a douchebag as people here want us to believe.

"He was no dragon. Fire cannot kill a dragon." - The Mad Queen

She clearly wasn't moved because she wanted to see if her brother was a true dragon and he disappointed her by burning!
Her beef with him isn't his stupidity, it's actually about if he's truly a targeryan.

2. She burnt a woman - the witch or whatever she was - alive in Khal Drogo's funeral pyre.

3. She threatened to burn down Quarth if they didn't let her into the city.

4. She displayed arrogance when the king of Quarth wouldn't comply - by giving her ships - as easily as she wanted.

5. She put Xaro and Doreah in his vault, locked them and went away with his wealth.

6. She burnt people alive at Astapor, before leaving with the Unsullied.

7. She threatened representatives with her dragon.

8. She crucified people at Meereen without trial.

9. She executed an ex-slave without trial for the crime of executing someone else without trial.

10. She fed someone to her dragons without trial

11. Then she burns the Khals alive and gives the Dothraki some speech about following her to Westeros.

12. She demanded that Jon - The King in the North - bend the knee to her because he wanted dragonglass to fight the dead.

13. She burnt Sam's father and brother alive without option of going to the wall or some other way.

14. She's bothered that the Northerners didn't like her and is quite ok with the fact that they fear her because of her dragons.

15. Sansa is already an enemy irrespective of her relationship with Jon.

16. She refused North's independence when Sansa talked about it. Same way her mad predecessors did.

17. The first thing she considered when realizing Jon's true identity was him being a threat her throne.

18. She refuses to give the soldiers time to rest before another huge battle. Desperate for the throne

19. She demands Jon to keep his true identity secret for the rest of his life, so that no one will challenge her supremacy.

20. She's clearly jealous of the love for Jon, same jealousy her father had for Tywin Lannister.

"I am no maester to quote history at you, Your Grace. Swords have been my life, not books. But every child knows that the Targaryens have always danced too close to madness. Your father was not the first. King Jaehaerys once told me that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land." - Ser Barristan (To Daenarys a.k.a Mad Queen)

trustbaba:

Dany being a mad queen self better pass this poo

if you are any more stupid, you have to be watered down twice a week, am sure earthworm even have more sense than you, if you are a character in the show, am sure you will be one of the wight, because you seem like a senseless creature

Cinderallagirl:
if you are any more stupid, you have to be watered down twice a week, am sure earthworm even have more sense than you, if you are a character in the show, am sure you will be one of the wight, because you seem like a senseless creature

At least ur improving now try and understand what you've written without saying shitty words.. if u can't then Fu*k off my mention.....

Well i had fun, thanks sandrazima and trustbaba for keeping me entertained, now I have to get back to my work, no hard feelings guys, it just in my nature to return any insults I received hope to do this some other time

crackhaus:

Cercei killed no one to take the throne. She married a King who is usurper with no claim on the throne in the first place. The king died.
Then his supposed son became king and also died by the hand of Olenna. Then the other son killed himself and suddenly there were no other males in the line of USURPERS to become king.

Cercei then used this opportunity to crown herself Queen. She was an opportunist, nothing more.

Cersei killed king Robert

Cinderallagirl:
Well i had fun, thanks sandrazima and trustbaba for keeping me entertained, now I have to get back to my work, no hard feelings guys, it just in my nature to return any insults I received hope to do this some other time

Me too... . Have a nice day at work

The fight was between Danys army and Cersei's army

In the episode where Missandei was beheaded both Dany and Cersei demanded the other surrender and no one gave in

If the fight was between Danys army and Cersei's army, who has the authority to surrender? Dany or the generals or Cersei and her Generals

Did Cersei or her hand order for the surrender to ring the bell? No

Who rung the bell of surrender? Jamie a fugitive from Kings Landing who was not even allowed into the gate.
Why did Jamie ring the bell? To save his sister and sweetheart as advised by his brother the treacherous hand

Is a bell ring(surrender) by a person not authorized to do so valid?

If Nigeria and America are in a war, Buhari Osinbajo didn't call for surrender but Shekau(a fugitive) or Atiku is now organizing a news conference to say Nigeria has surrendered. will that be considered a valid surrender?

And the civilians who died, That is wholly on Cersei who used them as a human shield and brought them into the gate hoping Dany will be weak and not want to hurt them thereby letting her get away as she has always done

lilbest4:
lol no naa Tywin is the Lannister himself naa before Tywin the Lannister name meant nothing much I'm talking about the Lannister children

ok I for fear oooo

Ibrahim3307:
Cersei killed king Robert

Dany also killed Cersei and why cant she get on the throne

raumdeuter:

Dany also killed Cersei and why cant she get on the throne

I am not against Dany taking the throne

We are talking about Daeneyrs not Cersei. Daeneyrs has no one to blame but herself for the misfortunes that befell her in Westeros. Can you all stop making excuses for her?

raumdeuter:


Cersei is the one occupying the throne and she is trying to remove Cersei. If you and Kings Landing people have no problem with Cersei ruling then what is the problem with Daenerys ruling

Brukx:

Jon has been a passive character in season 8. This is because of his peace making nature. He claims Daenerys to be his queen (an excuse he uses to avoid being an opposition to her). But the final episode will tell who indeed is the greatest Character

wetin this 1 dey talk


how is jon even the greatest character

the only thing special abt jon is that his parentage wasnt known


remove dany surname and she is still bad ass

cant believe that people are still trying to make dany seem like a villain


so she burnt a few people


big deal, remind me how many people tywin killed when he tricked the mad king to allow him into kings landing

It is game of thrones not US Vs Russia

Well, a siege was suggested but Dany didn't want to wait. No, she wanted that throne so badly. Would she have done same to Slavers Bay and the rest of the cities she freed? Oh wait, the civilians were not slaves that needed to be saved nor did they care much bout who sits on the iron throne.

raumdeuter:
The fight was between Danys army and Cersei's army

In the episode where Missandei was beheaded both Dany and Cersei demanded the other surrender and no one gave in

If the fight was between Danys army and Cersei's army, who has the authority to surrender? Dany or the generals or Cersei and her Generals

Did Cersei or her hand order for the surrender to ring the bell? No

Who rung the bell of surrender? Jamie a fugitive from Kings Landing who was not even allowed into the gate.
Why did Jamie ring the bell? To save his sister and sweetheart as advised by his brother the treacherous hand

Is a bell ring(surrender) by a person not authorized to do so valid?

If Nigeria and America are in a war, Buhari Osinbajo didn't call for surrender but Shekau(a fugitive) or Atiku is now organizing a news conference to say Nigeria has surrendered. will that be considered a valid surrender?

And the civilians who died, That is wholly on Cersei who used them as a human shield and brought them into the gate hoping Dany will be weak and not want to hurt them thereby letting her get away as she has always done

Sterope:
We are talking about Daeneyrs not Cersei. Daeneyrs has no one to blame but herself for the misfortunes that befell her in Westeros. Can you all stop making excuses for her?

And she is correcting the misfortunes that befell her by not listening to the treacherous hands again and actually following the advice of Olenna
What excuse are they making for her? She got 2 advise. 1 from Tyrion/Varys and 2 from Olenna

She tried option 1 and was failing, now she is trying option 2 and winning

Magnifico2000:

The guy got what he deserved. Back in season 2, he killed babies on the order of cersei just to end the life of Robert's bastards in kingslanding.

Orders of Jofffery you mean

Sterope:
It is game of thrones not US Vs Russia

Well, a siege was suggested but Dany didn't want to wait. No, she wanted that throne so badly. Would she have done same to Slavers Bay and the rest of the cities she freed? Oh wait, the civilians were not slaves that needed to be saved nor did they care much bout who sits on the iron throne.

What is the advantage of a siege over instant action? Do you think Cersei cares and will leave the throne even if everyone on Kings Landing starves to death?
The siege only gives Cersei the time to regroup and get stronger like Tyrion wanted from day 1 hence all the foolish advice he has been given.

The time that made Qybirn to develop scorpion, the time that allowed Euron to form an alliance and kill her dragon

She wanted the throne so badly just like Cersei and the Lannisters. And she is using her strength to get it

Dany listens to Tyrion and Varys, Verdict Cersei outsmarted her
Dany does not listen to Tyrion and Varys, Verdict she is wicked and mad

You cannot please everyone.

GloryIsaac:


Exactly. That has always been her aim, and she was going to get it one or the other.

From the beginning, Daenerys has been dancing close to madness, which got worse when her dragons matured ....

1. She watched her brother get crowned with molten gold. Her reason for not doing anything wasn't about him being a douchebag as people here want us to believe.

"He was no dragon. Fire cannot kill a dragon." - The Mad Queen

She clearly wasn't moved because she wanted to see if her brother was a true dragon and he disappointed her by burning!
Her beef with him isn't his stupidity, it's actually about if he's truly a targeryan.

2. She burnt a woman - the witch or whatever she was - alive in Khal Drogo's funeral pyre.

3. She threatened to burn down Quarth if they didn't let her into the city.

4. She displayed arrogance when the king of Quarth wouldn't comply - by giving her ships - as easily as she wanted.

5. She put Xaro and Doreah in his vault, locked them and went away with his wealth.

6. She burnt people alive at Astapor, before leaving with the Unsullied.

7. She threatened representatives with her dragon.

8. She crucified people at Meereen without trial.

9. She executed an ex-slave without trial for the crime of executing someone else without trial.

10. She fed someone to her dragons without trial

11. Then she burns the Khals alive and gives the Dothraki some speech about following her to Westeros.

12. She demanded that Jon - The King in the North - bend the knee to her because he wanted dragonglass to fight the dead.

13. She burnt Sam's father and brother alive without option of going to the wall or some other way.

14. She's bothered that the Northerners didn't like her and is quite ok with the fact that they fear her because of her dragons.

15. Sansa is already an enemy irrespective of her relationship with Jon.

16. She refused North's independence when Sansa talked about it. Same way her mad predecessors did.

17. The first thing she considered when realizing Jon's true identity was him being a threat her throne.

18. She refuses to give the soldiers time to rest before another huge battle. Desperate for the throne

19. She demands Jon to keep his true identity secret for the rest of his life, so that no one will challenge her supremacy.

20. She's clearly jealous of the love for Jon, same jealousy her father had for Tywin Lannister.

"I am no maester to quote history at you, Your Grace. Swords have been my life, not books. But every child knows that the Targaryens have always danced too close to madness. Your father was not the first. King Jaehaerys once told me that madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land." - Ser Barristan (To Daenarys a.k.a Mad Queen)

Guy, i kinda agree with your position that Daenerys didnt really need to go rogue on kings landing but some of your reasons as to her being the mad queen are not quite as true as you want us to believe.

1. At a point anyone would get tired of being treated like a piece of rag even by her brother. The same brother that said he would allow the whole docraky army and horse bang her just so he gets what he wants.

2. Aftr yhe witch tricked her andade Drogo an half dead slowpoke, she should hug her?

3. At that point she was fkexing power, no actually thought she was gonna do it.

4.she was desperate. And yes a little arrogant.

5. They would have killed her. Considering they killed one of her girls and she lost her dragons.

6. Cant remember but i thought it was only that arrogant seller she burnt. That guy deserved being roasted abeg.

7. Well i agree with you here. But the dragons are her greatest weapon to instil fear whether justice or not.

8. This was dicey.

9. & 10. I agree with you.

11. The Dothraki heads were going to probably kill her. It was her or them.

12. This was where her destination started really showing. Jon did it for the greatest good. All she wanted was to be the QUEEN.

13. She was sending a message by burning the Tarlys, but i also felt she could have been a little lenient. Killing them was extreme.

14. Like i said having the dragons had gotten to her head and she was thinking she was invincible.

15. Its normal with women especially when power is involved.

16. Now this one is the most indication that she was selfish and was ready to do anything just to sit on the throne. The madness done dey show here.

17. She now knew all she had been fighting for was for nothing because there was a true heir. It increased her yendency to bevome the mad queen.

18. Selfish Desperation

19. This was the height of it. To her the problem was not even they could keep it secret but that she must be the queen. I know them being related made it complicated but what i deduced was that even if they were not related she would have still demand Jon kept his identity secret so that she would be QUEEN.

20. She was already mad here to be jealous. These people were jobs people and had had a bound with him. They didnt know her and she did not even try to make the people love because she felt she could rule through fear because of her dragons. What had she done for them that she was expecting them to love her. After they even queried Jon in front of her for bending the knee.

Hoe would she have gotten stronger with a seige in winter?

You haven't answered the other questions. Would she have done same against the cities she freed? I must have missed the part where Jaime rang the bell but didn't the Lannister soldiers surrendered immediately the bell was rung?

By the way, Dany was ready to burn the city down for other reasons besides Jaime ringing the bell. She was ready to kill the civilians and She did target the civilians not the soldiers in some scenes.

Your queen lost control because things did not go as expected.

raumdeuter:


What is the advantage of a siege over instant action? Do you think Cersei cares and will leave the throne even if everyone on Kings Landing starves to death?
The siege only gives Cersei the time to regroup and get stronger like Tyrion wanted from day 1 hence all the foolish advice he has been given.

The time that made Qybirn to develop scorpion, the time that allowed Euron to form an alliance and kill her dragon

She wanted the throne so badly just like Cersei and the Lannisters. And she is using her strength to get it

Dany listens to Tyrion and Varys, Verdict Cersei outsmarted her
Dany does not listen to Tyrion and Varys, Verdict she is wicked and mad

You cannot please everyone.

From the show, majority of people in Westeros (North and South) did not like her before she decided to burn King's Landing. That clearly shows that she shouldn't have forced herself on them. They don't want her and they re certainly not helpless like those in Slavers Bay. That is not going to change after burning the city. She will continue to struggle with their loyalties. She also doesn't have a heir to continue the struggle.

raumdeuter:


And she is correcting the misfortunes that befell her by not listening to the treacherous hands again and actually following the advice of Olenna
What excuse are they making for her? She got 2 advise. 1 from Tyrion/Varys and 2 from Olenna

She tried option 1 and was failing, now she is trying option 2 and winning

Sterope:
Hoe would she have gotten stronger with a seige in winter?
You haven't answered the other questions. Would she have done same against the cities she freed? I must have missed the part where Jaime rang the bell but didn't the Lannister soldiers surrendered immediately the bell was rung?

By the way, Dany was ready to burn the city down for other reasons besides Jaime ringing the bell. She was ready to kill the civilians and She did target the civilians not the soldiers in some scenes.

Your queen lost control because things did not go as expected.

How was she able to get the golden company in winter, how was she able to get Eurons fleet in winter, How was she able to build more scorpions in winter

Anything the Lannisters do is deception, And she has found out in multiple instance from Cersei, Tyrion and Jamie.
Didn't Cersei promise to send soldiers to the North in season 7? what became of that promise?
Didn't Tyrion leak the secret to Varys?
Didn't Jamie abandon the north and everyone who fought the dead together?
So someone who has failed to keep their word should believe that they have surrendered when Cersei the leader didnt say it herself?

She needed Cersei to surrender, she asked her to surrender and she refuses, Dany will be foolish to accept any surrender not coming from Cersei especially one coming from Jamie her prisoner that was covertly released from her captivity by her treacherous hand

Varys wanted to poison Dany.



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