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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 2:28pm On May 17, 2019 |
Brooke60:How? |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 2:28pm On May 17, 2019 |
J2381: The main character who the war was about has not surrendered and has no plan to surrender rather her brothers planned a phoney surrender to trick her like they have been doing to help Cersei escape justice If you are playing a man stronger than you for a fool then when he uses his brute force against you dont complain, She gave them enough opportunities and her mercy was taken for weakness. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 2:28pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter: The war was between Danny and Cercei you say. So why did she not go for Cercei when she had the chance but decided to kill innocents. Yes the soldiers are tools to fight, but once you tools are disarmed you are a sitting dock just like how Cercei was and Danny had all the time to kill her but suddenly decided it was the innocents that she had a grouse with. How can what the soldiers do be immaterial? Most tyrants only hang on to power because they have an army. The day this army turn on them they are finished. So what the soldiers do in mot immaterial guy. Killing innocents is not normal in Modern warfare! Why did the Germans not kill every man and rape every woman when they annexed Austria? 1 Like |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 2:33pm On May 17, 2019 |
codedguy1: To surrender your leader have to be killed/ captured or surrender. That is the sign that a war is won. Does WW2 count as modern warfare? Have you read what Russians did to Germans civilians when they entered Berlin Google the rape of Berlin. The Guardian newspaper has it that "'They raped every German female from eight to 80'" 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by J2381: 2:34pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter:is the main character the one fighting the war? Didn't Qyburn tell her the war is lost and they should escape of which she even agreed and was escaping before Hon. Sandor Clegane stopped them in their escape? Haba bros na wa for you oh. Beside, if Daenerys had used her brute force and power on cersei alone. Fine, but not on the innocent people of KL. Like where they the ones who played Daenerys for a fool? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by crackhaus: 2:36pm On May 17, 2019 |
Gmajor:Amazing... ![]() You and Cinderellagirl are going to make me cry from laughter pretty soon. ![]() |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 2:37pm On May 17, 2019 |
J2381: Qyburn told her the war was lost and their defence has fallen, did that make Cersei surrender? Anything that happens to the civilian is on Cersei as long as she has not surrendered The people of KL were brought into the theatre of war by Cersei and their death falls on her. She brought them as human shield If you are fighting with Anthony Joshua, you throw him a blow and hide behind your kids, If he now punches your kids while trying to get you, you will claim he was wicked, that was it the kids who punched him? 8 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 2:39pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter: So why did she not go kill Cercei like i asked previously when she had the chance and leave the innocents alone. Cercei was standing there for the taking. She had not escaped with Jamie. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Gmajor(m): 2:40pm On May 17, 2019 |
crackhaus:since you obviously have no superior argument to make, I'll grant you the permission to laugh |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 2:45pm On May 17, 2019 |
codedguy1: It's like asking why the Russians didn't go directly for Hitler and not rape the women and decimate the Germans. Maybe in an ideal world, there will be wars without innocent civilian casualties not in real life As far as she is concerned the war was still on as long as Cersei was alive and not surrendered When in war the first rule is ensure you win by all means. Only winners write history and determine who the villains are That is why the Germans were tried for war crimes and hardly any Russian was despite committing comparable levels of atrocities What Lady Olenna was advising her was that Dany needs to win the war first, get power and then worry about the political or warfare correctness of it. When Cersei blew the Sept of Baelor, while sitting on the throne, did anyone question how she got there? even the other houses who knew the evil she did to get there, the iron bank, the citadel all recognized her as the ruler 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by J2381: 2:48pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter:of course he is wicked for hitting kids and also the person who used the kids as human shield are cowards and just as wicked as Anthony Joshua. The war was lost is a clear indication they can't win and all was over. She lost the war and was escaping, and it was very clear she was crying. When she was in the crypt with Jaime, she wept and said she didn't want to die, she wanted to live, now if that is not defeat shown on Cersei's face in full HD, I don't want what that is. Fine you might say Cersei didn't surrender, but it was glaring she lost and was defeated hands down. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 2:54pm On May 17, 2019 |
J2381: The person who used kids as human shield bears the crime, there is even a law in modern time The use of human shields is forbidden by Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions. It is also a specific intent war crime as codified in the Rome Statute, which was adopted in 1998.[1] The language of the Rome Statute prohibits "utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas, or military forces immune from military operations Crying to whom? Is that to Dany the person she is at war with?? if you dont surrender you are still in war and would be beaten to death unless she surrenders or dies 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 3:01pm On May 17, 2019 |
I don't know why people are mad at dany. When you battle someone like cersie, you destroy them completely and leave not even the tiniest space. If she had been diplomatic when they rung the bell, she might have fallen into a trap and died from the wildfire. 1 Like |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 3:05pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter: How did Daenerys know that Cercei had not surrendered? You keep twisting things to suit your narrative. The innocents that Daenerys was killing on the street, were they all around Cercei to show that she was aiming for cercei and they were collateral damage. These were people on the streets of KL and the Mad queen decided to kill them all. Your comparisms with the Russian German scenario is diversionary abeg. Leave that side. Your Anthony Joshua analogy also does not make sense. So because you are fighting with his father you see the boy on the street you strike him abi. Must you win the war by killing everything in sight even things and people that were of no threat to you! 2 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 3:12pm On May 17, 2019 |
highcollide: Double post |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 3:13pm On May 17, 2019 |
highcollide: Not leaving the tiniest space means killing every man, woman and child who was not part of the army abi?. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 3:14pm On May 17, 2019 |
codedguy1: She knew Cersei will never surrender this isnt the first time she is dealing with Cersei According to biblical records, one of the reasons Saul was rejected as king was because he showed mercy to innocent civilians instead of totally killing them 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by raumdeuter: 3:14pm On May 17, 2019 |
codedguy1: Those men and women became part of thw war when Cersei brought them into the war theatre. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 3:21pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter: So the ones she was torching on the streets were part of the war? People that were miles away from where Cercei stood, harmless peasants oo. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 3:24pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter:We are talking of an entire city here,and don't forget all those were done to achieve an objective...daenerys did hers even after her objective have been achieved.She's truly mad! |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by blingxx(m): 3:29pm On May 17, 2019 |
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Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by hausadreturn(m): 3:39pm On May 17, 2019 |
Luckygurl:I guess you're happy now. Varys says hi from the other side. ![]() |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Zenzu01(m): 3:42pm On May 17, 2019 |
Think outside the box An intriguing new theory suggests that history will repeat itself in the finale this Sunday as the remaining characters play out the same conflict that set the story in motion in the first place: Robert’s Rebellion. First, a quick Westeros history lesson. Robert’s Rebellion took place roughly 20 years before the events of Game of Thrones . It was a civil war in which an alliance of Starks (led by Ned) and Baratheons (led by Robert) took down King Aerys II Targaryen (aka the Mad King) with an assist from the Lannisters after Jaime renounced his position as Kingsguard and stabbed Aerys in the back, literally. Ok, so we know that’s a lot to remember, but there’s one more important detail: The rebellion began because Prince Rhaegar Targaryen (the Mad King’s son) allegedly kidnapped Ned’s sister, Lyanna Stark, who was supposed to marry Robert. Lyanna ended up dying under mysterious circumstances . Then, Robert became king and married Cersei Lannister instead, and the rest is HBO’s Game of Thrones . Got it? Great. Now here’s how the story of Robert’s Rebellion could repeat itself in the Game of Thrones series finale. Step one already happened in Episode 5 when Daenerys Targaryen burned down the entire city of King’s Landing (just like her Mad King father wanted to do) and became the Mad Queen , but in Episode 6, she could go even further. It’s not hard to imagine that Dany could aim her newfound rage at another Stark in the next episode, accusing Sansa Stark of treason and arresting her. In response, the remaining Starks (Jon Snow, Arya, and maybe Bran) would likely rebel against their new queen. That’s where the Baratheons come in. King Robert is long dead, but in Season 8, Episode 4, Daenerys officially proclaimed Robert’s bastard son, Gendry, to be a true Baratheon and Lord of the Stormlands, a kingdom just south of the Westeros capital that was traditionally ruled by House Baratheon. Gendry may owe Dany a favor, but if she goes Mad Queen and tries to kill Sansa, we have a feeling he’ll side with the Starks in open rebellion. The only missing piece of the puzzle is a Lannister to deliver the killing blow. In Robert’s Rebellion, that was Jaime, who was essentially working as private security for King Aerys at the time. Jaime might be dead, but his brother, Tyrion, is still alive. More importantly, he’s Dany’s most trusted advisor, putting him in the perfect position to stab her in the back if it comes to it. Finally, if history truly does repeat itself, Gendry will end up on the Iron Throne to become King of Westeros. Of course, that assumes Jon will decline his rightful claim to the throne, but as he’s stated before, he has no interest in ruling. copied 7 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 3:46pm On May 17, 2019 |
codedguy1:Seriously,those people defending her action are evil! This has gone beyond a mere movie argument...I swear,if it was my fiancee that defended her,that will be the end of our engagement. 2 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by codedguy1(m): 3:54pm On May 17, 2019 |
BeLookingIDIOT: Even you don carry the thing pass mere movie! ![]() ![]() Abeg make people come chop rice for you reception oo. |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 3:56pm On May 17, 2019 |
ChristoBam:why is it always "women and children", so the innocent men that were murdered too don't count? This is also how media report crime I just don't get it, is it that it's more heinous if it's a woman that was killed or what 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 4:00pm On May 17, 2019 |
crackhaus:who is the rightful owner? The way you reason ehn |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by joseff14(m): 4:03pm On May 17, 2019 |
BeLookingIDIOT:U don take am personal.......if ur fiancee happens to be the actress portraying dany, u go don kill her be that ![]() |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 4:14pm On May 17, 2019 |
raumdeuter:relax my guy and stop forming too know. 80% of the ww2 history you will read on Google are highly distorted. I hope you know that everything you know about Hitler and Stalin were written by their enemies. Everything you you know about Russia and Germany in the WW2 period were written by their enemies. The part of the Internet you use here is controlled by America and those people America's enemies. Imagine if all I knew about you was what your enemies told ![]() 8 Likes |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 4:23pm On May 17, 2019 |
crackhaus:she place drug in the drink, to make him more drunk |
Re: Game Of Thrones Discussion (Beware Of Spoilers) by Nobody: 4:23pm On May 17, 2019 |
codedguy1:The women and children are what cersie would have used to finish off dany. Look, tyrion had misled her a few times, causing her to lose soldiers, fleets, her dragon, oberyns wife and daughters etc.....she started suspecting tyrion of protecting his family i.e cersie. She watched tyrion reject the idea of attacking kings landing and suggesting the idea of diplomacy. It backfired. Now, tyrion rejected the idea of burning the city to the ground and asked dany to stop the attack. Giving dany the impression that tyrion has someone working with city and tyrion is likely in contact with cersie. I suspect this because cersie felt relieved when the bell rung before dany burnt the city. Cersie had other plans which weren't disclosed. I also suspect that inviting tyrion to tell him about burning the city was a test for tyrion given by dany, which he failed woefully. It seemed like tyrion was working with cersie to stall the ransack of Kings landing while danys forces deplete slowly. Looking at her face when the bell rung, I felt she was mad because tyrion predicted it. She didn't know who to trust anymore. She didn't want to follow tyrions idea and lose another loved one. What should she have done? Ringing the bell, does it mean a heartless bitch like cersie has surrendered? Even when we thought cersie was powerless, she burnt the high septa and everyone including it. Burning the city was the best thing dany did. If not she would have died or lost something that would start a chain reaction that will make her lose everything. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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