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Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by MorufuAtanda: 10:40am On May 18, 2019 |
Franking: As long we Yoruba keep insulting Ibos. Nothing presidency for us. Ibos are now the most loved ethnic group in the south. The SE and SS will always vote together and cannot vote Yoruba for now and it pains we Yoruba to the marrow. Truth is bitter. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Nobody: 10:42am On May 18, 2019 |
Democracy doesn't work without social cohesion, Nigeria needs to break into pieces. Otherwise people will vote by blocks and not merit, in which case the Igbo will always be the losers because they can't play. The British knew exactly what they were doing when they lumped incompatible cultures together. Wake up. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Nobody: 10:43am On May 18, 2019 |
Is it not the same south that was celebrating a corrupt politician that returned from Jail in United Kingdom? ORIENTATION101: 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Firstandonly(m): 10:59am On May 18, 2019 |
izzou:the chances of south south to rule again is much higher than that of south east. Adam, Amechi, Donal duke etc this are men with political advantage over any south easterner 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by oshosegun27(m): 11:25am On May 18, 2019 |
With all due respect, this is wrong. The population of the North was taken into account when the electoral acts were created. Read and understand section 134 of the Nigerian Constitution. If Atiku had won in all the states except the North, it would have been a tie. So the North can not single handedly produce a President if other tribes band together in unison. izzou: 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by amaridigital(m): 11:34am On May 18, 2019 |
I think what might play out in 2023 is a North versus South presidential contest North/ South west versus North/ South east candidacy. The North and Yorubas are not ready yet to relinquish power. South west will prefer a vice presidency slot than to loose out entirely and it will be extremely difficult for a South east vice presidential candidate to defeat a South westerner in the North. The Yorubas won't talk as usual but they will act when the time comes. South east need to be prepared for this. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Menance: 11:39am On May 18, 2019 |
Igbos don't care about presidency. Have sense ewu |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by AllenSpencer: 11:39am On May 18, 2019 |
This Igbos should be given Biafra and allowed to go His Excellence, President Mohammadu Buhari (GCFR), should find an avenue to let them go. Being in a country with this cheat-beaters and empty barrels is becoming a pain in the ass. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by RTSC: 11:40am On May 18, 2019 |
Deadlytruth:Ironsi did what he thought was right. It doesn't mean it is not a hard thing. A better igbo president would do the hard job of restructuring this country and correcting ironsi mistake. Jonathan was his own man. There was no way you can make a man braver than he is. He was his own man and made his own decisions based on his character. You can't hold igbos responsible for his failure. You can't force a president to restructure Nigeria. And just like you said Jonathan removed an igbo revolutionary just to placate northern voices. It was the same mentality that made him invest heavily in the North and very little in his homeland. There was nothing igbos could have done. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by tsdarkside(m): 11:47am On May 18, 2019 |
Shinjitsu: yea yea,igbos ruled mostly and it ended in war....yea yea,we remember.... 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by stieyven(m): 11:50am On May 18, 2019 |
izzou:He who calls his brother a fool shall be in danger of hell. Matthew 5 :22 |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Urchman200: 11:51am On May 18, 2019 |
This article is promoting tribalism but the writter doesn't seem to care because is a paid journalist wheather igbo or yoruba I don't care because non of will bring changes to the live of a common man in the country. But equity demand that igbo tribe should be given the opportunity to represent just like every other person supported Atiku and Buhari from the same tribe heaven did not fall. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Deadlytruth(m): 11:52am On May 18, 2019 |
Princedapace: For the first bolded: Without prejudice to the fact that his so-called amnesty offer didn't solve any problem in the Niger Delta as the agitations have continued till today, he has the gold medal of genocide in the Niger Delta as it was he who ordered the massacre of over 3,000 innocent civilians in Gbaramatu kingdom and had the monarch's palace razed down all by JTF in the name of going after militants one of whom was never apprehended. Your logic above is akin to eulogizing Gowon for beginning a process that brought peace to Igbos despite the process consumed over 3 million innocent Igbo civilians. Secondly, the amnesty offer was not borne out of genuine intention because, apart from the fact that it was an afterthought prompted by the militants reprisal attacks on oil facilities which saw crude oil output plummet by a historic 75% within just two weeks, it redefined and reclassified freedom fighters as criminals asking for pardon from the government which had raped them for years and was therefore the real criminal. Ideally the Niger Deltans are supposed to be the ones granting the Nigerian Government amnesty, but for the stupidity of the likes of Edwin Clark and Jonathan who, with his PhD ought to have known better, urged the Niger Delta freedom fighters to accept Yaradua's reclassification of them as criminals. Do you think that, after having admitted to being criminals to whom the FG showed forgiveness, the Niger Delta people can ever sue the Nigerian Government to any local or International court for war crime or marginalization and win? And that was Yaradua's legacy. Thirdly, did the amnesty policy address a shred of any of the fundamental demands for which Ken Saro Wiwa was killed by Yaradua's brother Abacha? If anything, the amnesty offer only increased laziness, sense of entitlement and unproductivity in the Niger Delta. Fourthly the very wrong precedent set by the amnesty offer is what is being extended today by way of suggesting same for Boko Haram and other terrorist groups to the dismay of the public. How would you feel if Buhari grants Amnesty to Ipob now and the latter foolishly accepts it, then other Nigerian tribes begin to use that as a basis to credit Buhari with beginning a process that brought peace to the SE? For the second bolded: Please note that the East too through Ironsi, has as much as the West and North ruled, and not only having nothing to show for it but even destroyed our federalism hence laying the foundation for all the injustice and misrule we currently complain of. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by tsdarkside(m): 12:04pm On May 18, 2019 |
Urchman200: the problem with igbos in politics now is,they dont see that you cant be dashed possitions in a democracy.... thats corruption....you must contest against others.... |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Ngwamankillyou(m): 12:11pm On May 18, 2019 |
Firstandonly: But your foolishness and half baked education could not allow you to reason well, sorry dear house negro, they are all Igbos.. There is nothing like South south in the constitution.. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Deadlytruth(m): 12:20pm On May 18, 2019 |
RTSC: Just like how a better Hausafulani, a better Edo, a better Yorubas, a better Ijaw, a better Urhobo, a better Ibibio, a better, Ogoni, a better Efik, etc would easily do the correct thing that would address all Nigeria's problems. So it is not just about Igbos alone. The Yoruba man, Obasanjo who ruled twice, was not the choice of Yorubas but that of the IBB-led Northern Oligarchy and their southern collaborators mostly from the SE and my own SS. The SS person who ruled in the person of Jonathan, was not the genuine SS' choice as the circumstances that brought him to power were beyond the SS people's control. If the SS were allowed to make a choice, they would have opted for Donald Duke whom even all other regions easily admit is a material for ideal national leadership. The Northerners who ruled after Ahmadu Bello and Balewa were as well thrown up by circumstances beyond the Northern generality's control hence their musrule can't really be rubbed on all Northerners. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by RTSC: 12:26pm On May 18, 2019 |
Deadlytruth:But the two major revolutionary events in Nigerian history was spearheaded by igbos who took the bull by the horn. Imagine that kind of courage in a responsible, patriotic and competent leader. Nigeria could finally change for good. Other ethnics have good potential leaders. But I don't think it is very easy to find that kind of courage to do what is necessary. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Deadlytruth(m): 12:52pm On May 18, 2019 |
RTSC: By "the two evolutionary event' I guess you are talking of the Jan 15 1966 coup and declaration of Biafra in 1967. Well, there is actually nothing revolutionary about either of these two events because unlike genuine revolution which brings peace, justice, equity and fair play and genuine national unity, these two events rather magnified the problems they were 'intended' to solve as they increased marginalization, bloodshed, tribalism, nepotism, inter-ethnic resentment, loss of millions of innocent lives and what have you? The Jan 15 1966 coup was a murderous rascality which ended up deliberately sparing some targets unlike a genuine revolution which consumes all the retrogressive elements indiscriminately. Moreover, it was not backed by popular demand. The Biafra declaration of 1967, unlike all genuine revolutionary movements, was a huge self-contradictory afterthought as the Ojukwu who did it had just few months before then assisted Ironsi in drafting and promulgating the Anti-secession Decree which made the declaration of seceesion a treasonable offence punishable with death by hanging. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by BULLIONVAN4(m): 1:08pm On May 18, 2019 |
IGBO, YORUBA, IJAW, EDO, NIGER DELTA etc are one guilded by one mother(the mother "SOUTH") until all the children of mother "SOUTH"(yoruba, igbo, edo, niger delta etc) unite together as one in love and unity, we'll continue to be slaves to those "NORTHENERS". Let us(the southeners) unite together and regulates this presidency between ourselves regard of tribe because we are more populous than them. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Princedapace(m): 1:08pm On May 18, 2019 |
Deadlytruth: I am personally not a fan of Yaradua. My point is: presidency from this region, that region, is not what we should be dragging.. I do wonder why mere people here on this forum do get excited when appointments come from their region. I mean, fashiola is the minister of power, he is a south westerner, has his position made south west to resolve electricity issue? No, so at this age, what Nigerians should glamouring for is a proper political structure that will help the country grow. Me and u no come here drag anything becus I can see where ur view is headed to already. Lol. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Deadlytruth(m): 1:12pm On May 18, 2019 |
Princedapace:Neither am I interested in which Region any leader comes from. The theme of my argument here is that Yaradua is the opposite of what you tried to portray him as. Recall that your crediting of him with vision is what triggered it off? 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Charly68: 1:13pm On May 18, 2019 |
The truth is bitter buy you have to speak it ..The IBO's won't support the right person because of self interest...An average IBO man sees himself as a king & not ready to follow anybody . |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Fahd11: 1:16pm On May 18, 2019 |
Can this be the only Igbo man that doesn't smoke igbo? The only one with sense? |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Princedapace(m): 1:24pm On May 18, 2019 |
Deadlytruth: Yes, because there were stuff he did that I personally liked. He refused fuel price, increased police salary, started housing scheme, was interested in education. He was compassionate, not such a tribal person. He is not such a great leader, he didn't rule that much. I was just comparing with the nonsense leaders we have produced as a country. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Deadlytruth(m): 1:36pm On May 18, 2019 |
Franking:Thank you. The fact that so many Nigerians credit with good governance such a person bereft of ideas tells you how bereft of what constiutes good governance Nigerians themselves are hence the sorry state we have been in for decades. Just because his poor state of health imposed on him a calm appearance, people took him for a gentle man with good intentions whereas his few actual actions both as Katsina Governor and Nigeria president revealed a tyrant and dullard. He was so dull that he never visited any advanced country all through his tenure but kept on visiting and seeking economic partnership with countries like Mozambique, Sudan, etc which were economically far inferior to Nigeria. Nothing underscores his dullness than the fact that before Obasanjo handpicked him and imposed him on PDP, not up to 5% of Nigerians knew about his existence as Katsina Governor. He was in total oblivion and was the most unknown and unheard of governor because he wasn't doing anything spectacular as governor for 8 years. He was never in the news either for good or bad until Obasanjo dug him out and started hyping him. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Deadlytruth(m): 2:11pm On May 18, 2019 |
Princedapace:Maybe those are your own standards of good governance. However those achievements, to me, are not fundamental to nation building hence I don't see him as an outlier. I would score Jonathan and Buhari far above him because these two have done certain things which are aimed at addressing the root cause of some of our national challenges unlike Yaradua's contingency approaches you listed above. For example Jonathan's tenure saw the end of political assassinations, genuine and practical electoral reform legacies unlike Yaradua's lip service to same. Jonathan pursued the PIB which would have fundamentally addressed the intractible fuel scarcity thus stabilizing prices and eradicating the agitation for subsidy which removal causes the hike in prices which Yaradua is credited with reducing when in actual fact he only removed the VAT which Obasanjo imposed on the eve of his departure. Jonathan also showed example by being the first sitting president to visit innocent victims of violence in their hospital beds thus showing a human face to governance, and lots more which can't be said of Yaradua. However Jonathan derailed the moment he began trying to, in pursuit of re-election, connect himself to the sympathy of the Hausafulani Core North at the sacrifice of the interest of the South and Middle Belt which gave him his victory votes over Buhari in 2011. I don't know how you came to the conclusion that Yaradua was detribalized. You have forgotten that against intense public outcry he made his kinsman, Rilwan Lukman, minister of petroleum despite that one had no cognate qualification or experience. Just like Buhari, most of Yaradua's appointments had moslems and Northerners as beneficiaries. The same Yaradua totally ignored his own tribes militia (Fulani Herdsmen menace) which started right under his nose but was busy chasing Niger Delta militants with JTF and killing innocent Niger Deltans in thousands while Fulani Herdsmen had a field day. As for Buhari, he too has increased police salary, so what's the big deal about Yaradua doing so? He too is doing some critical infrastructure in education and federal housing scheme. If we don't have to be sentiments driven, his modular refineries policy is a very fundamental approach to a major hydraheaded national problem and a fulfilment of one of the demands for which Ken Saro Wiwa was matyred hence not a contingency or divide and rule amnesty offer like Yaradua's. It is also a step in the direction of the overall restructuring being called for. His ban on importation of many of our comparative advantage commodities, though very harsh, is one of the most fundamentally impactful policies ever made by a Nigerian Government. Yaradua was never that bold and daring. Should Emifiele come up with a Naira Redenomination policy exactly like Soludo's, Buhari will never overrule it even though he might not understand the nitty gritty. But as long as he understands that it will hurt the thieving elite, he will gladly approve of it. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Princedapace(m): 2:27pm On May 18, 2019 |
Deadlytruth: Finally, i av seen where the whole thing is pointing at: It is all about Buhari. My brother, pls, i dont have energy for this Vuhari VS others argument. U win. My whole point was never about Buhari or Yaruadu. Pls, let end this here. Buhari supporters have always been his supporter. My brother, the entire country is not working. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by Arkmanbuddy(m): 2:31pm On May 18, 2019 |
izzou: Jonathan was lucky to have been 'allowed' to rule this country, as planned by Obasanjo. |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by farem: 3:35pm On May 18, 2019 |
helinues: WORDS ON MARBLE Political justice must be demanded when it is not given”. How can justice be done to a people who have resigned to hopeless fate? How can a people who are stuck in political stasis be called to the table for negotiations? How can a people who are on the path of no certain destination be taken seriously? 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Deserve 2023 Presidency, The Igbos Not A Serious People- Fredrick Nwabufo by farem: 3:39pm On May 18, 2019 |
kaen1317: The writer is right aferall because of this kain people: "How can a people who are stuck in political stasis be called to the table for negotiations? How can a people who are on the path of no certain destination be taken seriously?" 1 Like |
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