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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by majamajic(m): 10:34am On May 20, 2019
for all of u looking at this as religion stuff,

Iran is not Arab country, they are Persians , men from this region dress in jeans more than any other country including the US,
just like isreal is not a Christian country too. they practice Orthodox.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by captianfreeman(m): 10:35am On May 20, 2019
E be like War dey hungry this man undecided

After WAR, every living must count his loses , no matter how strong they are.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by majamajic(m): 10:35am On May 20, 2019
BrownRoofRep:

China, Russia and America will all easily delete Israel from existence.


u know nothing about world power, most of America fighters are of Israeli origin. apart from Bible days Israel has never lost a battle in recent years,
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Kokoebapluse(m): 10:37am On May 20, 2019
Insecure and weak people make noise. US can only make noise.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by bkool7(m): 10:37am On May 20, 2019
kemicalreaction:
Stop taking statistics from your ass, if the US is capable of taking on the middle east, why can't it invade Venezuela at its backyard




You're a kid.

Venezuela is not at war with the United States
It didn't lunch any provocative attack at US territory.
Venezuela still has a democratically elected govt.
So why should the US invade them

Even Isreal took on most of the Middle Eastern countries and defeated them

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Almunjid(m): 10:37am On May 20, 2019
BrownRoofRep:

Then let your terrorist brothers try him let's see how to do comedy with their uncircumcised dikcs.
Thank God u admitted that he's a comedian. grin
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Efewestern: 10:38am On May 20, 2019
Nkc22:



Bro, you spoke with facts but don't leave out some vital truths...In that Lebanon war between Hezbollah and Isreal, Iranian military came to the support of the Hezbollah before and during the war...That alone nullifies some points you raised here...

Iran has always and is still funding and supporting Hezbollah, Iran created them, it is a well known fact. Same way US is supporting and funding Isreal. So the equation is balanced, the issue is that Isreal goofed badly.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by luluman: 10:38am On May 20, 2019
EbukaHades10:
Who is Trump?
US President.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Lonelypacifist6: 10:39am On May 20, 2019
panafrican:
Trump did pretty well on foreign policy during his first term in office.
He did not blow up any country , he did not collude with warmongering nations such as UK and France to smuggle weapons into countries and start a bloody armed rebellion like what we saw in Syria and Libya.

Based on that Iran should wise up and avoid unnecessary conflicts with a country it cannot defeat.
You should change your moniker to Pan-American, America is the real Warmonger state it has been at war for 99 percent of it's existence.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by luluman: 10:40am On May 20, 2019
cyojunior1:
Only if he knew what Iran military is made up
What are they made up of?

Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by smyo(m): 10:40am On May 20, 2019
salamudeen:
Abeg compare the Size of Iran with the size of USA...


Tell this to either Russia or China Please...

Just like saying Lagos state threatening a local Government in Bayelsa


Why would such be coming out from a president? this one is just a business man not a president @ all

Some Ignorantis that doesnt know the aftermath of war would come out and start saying trash....

One thing i realised here is 90% percent of the people who would be happy about the news would be mainly Christians and Igbos he

re in Nigeria...


FYI.... Am not bashing anybody am just saying my mind if e pain you this is a faceless forum dont be offended
This trash you are writing here is not going any where and not changing anything, waiting consigns the igbos in the matter between Iran and US again, why can't some guys sleep without mentioning igbos. To bad for some fools.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by imam07: 10:42am On May 20, 2019
salamudeen:
Abeg compare the Size of Iran with the size of USA...


Tell this to either Russia or China Please...

Just like saying Lagos state threatening a local Government in Bayelsa


Why would such be coming out from a president? this one is just a business man not a president @ all

Some Ignorantis that doesnt know the aftermath of war would come out and start saying trash....

One thing i realised here is 90% percent of the people who would be happy about the news would be mainly Christians and Igbos here in Nigeria...


FYI.... Am not bashing anybody am just saying my mind if e pain you this is a faceless forum dont be offended
yeye. You think US is like Nigeria govt that will keep mute when its citizens are being threatened.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Basher8583: 10:43am On May 20, 2019
Kingosytex:
make iran no joke reach where US dey o, those people no get joy at all. US wey reduce hiroshima and nagasaki to dust, US dey very deadly

That was in those days. Not possible anymore. Now it's Nuke for Nuke. Both sides lose
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by JudasNaCarrot: 10:44am On May 20, 2019
salamudeen:
Abeg compare the Size of Iran with the size of USA...


Tell this to either Russia or China Please...

Just like saying Lagos state threatening a local Government in Bayelsa


Why would such be coming out from a president? this one is just a business man not a president @ all

Some Ignorantis that doesnt know the aftermath of war would come out and start saying trash....

One thing i realised here is 90% percent of the people who would be happy about the news would be mainly Christians and Igbos here in Nigeria...


FYI.... Am not bashing anybody am just saying my mind if e pain you this is a faceless forum dont be offended
I have followed most of your comments.....

Conclusion: You are always high on banned substance.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by hecomeshome(m): 10:46am On May 20, 2019
Efewestern:




You are probable ignorant about international politics, or should I say you know nothing about the Persians. No doubts Iran can't even dare confront the US unprovoked, that will be their end, but US will find it extremely difficult to defeat Iran in their soil, due to terrain, how determined the Persians are, allies in the region, etc.

Wars are not only won due to Sophisticated weapons, if not Isreal wouldn't have been defeated by rag tag Hezbollah militias, US wouldn't have been defeated by ill equipped Vietnam military, Saudi Arabia would have for a long time won the crisis in Yemen, etc.

Iran is threading with care, and they know they don't match the US, but if US dare attack her, they will fight US with all they have, The Persians fought Iraq will little international support even when Saddam Hussein was being supported by the entire western world, Iran back then had few weapons and depended largely on Foreign countries for military hardwares, yet they were able to push Iraq out of Iran and fought like never before, in fact they changed the objective of the war and was about encroaching Iraq. Iran fought to keep its sovereignty with tooth and nail even when Iraq was using chemical weapons on them.

Now fast forward to 2019, Iran has so many affiliated militias in Lebanon (Hezbollah, strongest in the world, that even the almighty Isreal would think twice before stealing Lebanese land), Houthi Shia groups (Yemen militias kicking Saudi ass in Yemen), Syria military (If not for Iran, The rebels would have defeated Bashar al-Assad), Iraq (Iraq is now an ally of Iran). That's not all, Iran has a homegrown military industry, they produce their own rockets, guns, submarines, aircraft (thou inferior), sophisticated missiles, etc, now tell me how you intend defeating a country such as this with ease? or you think Iran is Libya?

US knows this and they know invading Iran unprovoked will end their influence in the region, this war won't only end in Iran, it will affect all Middle East countries including Saudi Arabia and Isreal, Just an order from Iran and see how Hezbollah unleash their madness.

US is powerful, but wars are not always won by that. a war with Iran isnt what we should be praying for, as millions will perish. God heal the Middle East.

Nobody is praying for war. Even Iran doesn't want war. Iran provoked the U.S by saying that the U.S must take permission from them before entering the strait of Hormuz.
America is a power house in all ramifications.
Make no mistakes about it, in modern warfare, wars are won from the air.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by scully95: 10:46am On May 20, 2019
RTSC:

Block the strait of Hormuz with which ship?

They or would be sunk in minutes.

Well, I have said this before, the best way for the anglozionist empire not to loss is not the start in the first place. The more they push or start a war the less relvant they become and more vulnerable and lossing big time. Meaning the more they push the more they loss. You can check that since any/all the moves they have made in the middle east.


Now back to your question about Hormuz with ship.
First of all check the map of what you are dealing with ok.
[img]https://3.bp..com/-9icCSeauINk/XOJwaRCXGCI/AAAAAAABWDM/3HkON4iiCFEdBy9DyL1ph3Gk5STA8p8UACLcBGAs/s320/iran_1.jpg[/img]

The pic above is space photo of what strait of Hormuz looks like in the night.

[img]https://4.bp..com/-Kv6tNcfk6KI/XOJxFC_ko7I/AAAAAAABWDU/lND9iupmIXgtVshin_l7qL_2NXrUdRdUwCLcBGAs/s320/iran-1.jpg[/img]
Second picture is also showing what the same place looks like.

Now check the facts.
Russian SS-NX-26 Yakhont missiles — with a top speed of Mach 2.9 — are lining up the Iranian northern shore of the Strait of Hormuz. There’s no way U.S. aircraft carriers can defend a barrage of Yakhont missiles.

Then there are the SS-N-22 Sunburn supersonic anti-ship missiles — already exported to China and India — flying ultra-low at 1,500 miles an hour with dodging capacity, and extremely mobile; they can be fired from a flatbed truck, and were designed to defeat the U.S. Aegis radar defense system. So does this answer you correctly ?

RTSC:

There is no prolonging anything. America is now deadlier than ever before.

They have learnt from the Vietnam War. The bulk of the war would come from the air and sea with missiles pounding Tehran to the ground.
US aircraft carriers Would take over the Persian gulf.

Israeli forces would carry out the ground invasion when Iran have been totally pounded.

What did they learn from Vietnam ? Nothing.

Since all the same bulk of their firepower were launched on Syria and Iraq from Sea and air.. What have we on the chess board as we speak ? Israel is not even relevant here cos they could not even defeat tier one Hezbolar forces, Lebanese National resistance forces in 2006. So forget Israel here..

Let m tell you what the anglozionist crazies were planning for Iran.
Notice this sentence: “The Pentagon’s original plan to punish Iran called for some 2,300 air strikes on Day 1 alone“. Can they really do that? Yes, absolutely. But imagine the consequences! Margolis speaks of “punishing” Iran. 2,300 Air strikes in one day is not something I would call a “punishment”.

That is a full scale attack on Iran which, in turns, means that the Iranians will have exactly *ZERO* reasons to hold back in any way. If the AngloZionists attack Iran with 2,300 air strikes on Day 1, then you can be sure that on Day2 all hell will break loose all over the Middle-East and the AngloZionists will have absolutely *NO* means of stopping it.

This will be a real bloodbath and nobody will have any idea as to how to stop it.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by crowley(m): 10:48am On May 20, 2019
Ifesinachi22:


Even if Iran military is made of iron and Robots, can they challenge the US?

Even that North Korean kid dare not
north korean kid? Kim? a psychopath? he dared not? where do you read you news from? it was china that calmed him down when they told him to stop his missile testing so close to the boarder or they will stop trade with them. trump his just a noisy rabbit with a tupay. he treatened to fire upon north korea if they tested any more weapons, the following week he tested 7, and told trump he has a thermo-nuclear weapon. trump went to china and asked them to intervane na.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by dermmy(m): 10:49am On May 20, 2019
Asour:




Seeing there has not been any World wars since (1945) world war II (a primary reason for the formation of the UN), In that sense, it'll be unfair to say that the UN has "Failed".

Avoiding international skirmishes between/amongst various countries is almost Impossible— it's like preventing Senior secondary students in Government schools from engaging in fights.

I agree totally with your take on the UN's role BUT the fact that we (the world) and the UN have been able to avert (until now) any major World-war scale violence is no mean feat. the UN would spread itself too thin if it keeps chasing any/every potentially violent situation around the world.

I know the failure of the League of nations led to the creation of UN and the world has not experienced a world war since its inception but that doesn't mean it hasn't failed. The way powerful countries are taking unilateral actions without consulting the UN is increasingly alarming, look at Russia's annexation of Crimea, US declaration of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and China's occupation of the south China sea all these contravenes international law.

UN was created in order to promote multilateralism but the powerful countries that gave birth to this body are the ones promoting a unilateral world order in present times and this is not good for world peace and stability. A Powerful country like US can act the way it chooses because no country can question her. Last year the ICC filed a case against US war atrocities and human right abuses in Afghanistan Donald Trump responded by threatening those ICC lawyers/judges with visa ban and sanctions now after much pressure from the US the ICC withdrew the law suit recently but if it were to be an African country the west would exert maximum pressure on that black country.

Look at the crimes Israel has committed against the Palestinians Israel used butterfly bullets and banned chemical gases on these people last year but no country in the UN talked, non state organisations like human rights watch can only bark they can't take concrete action or lobby a UN member nation to act. Do you know the politics UN played during the Rwandan genocide? The UN has failed Sir

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Efewestern: 10:50am On May 20, 2019
hecomeshome:

Nobody is praying for war. Even Iran doesn't want war. Iran provoked the U.S by saying the the U.S must take permission from them before entering the strait of Hormuz.
America is a power house in all ramifications.
Make no mistakes about it, in modern warfare, wars are won from the air.

Air only gives you great advantages, don't not be deceived, without a well coordinated ground troops, you can't win a war, plus Iran isnt a plane field you can just bomb, the country is filled with rocks.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by imam07: 10:51am On May 20, 2019
Efewestern:




You are probable ignorant about international politics, or should I say you know nothing about the Persians. No doubts Iran can't even dare confront the US unprovoked, that will be their end, but US will find it extremely difficult to defeat Iran in their soil, due to terrain, how determined the Persians are, allies in the region, etc.

Wars are not only won due to Sophisticated weapons, if not Isreal wouldn't have been defeated by rag tag Hezbollah militias, US wouldn't have been defeated by ill equipped Vietnam military, Saudi Arabia would have for a long time won the crisis in Yemen, etc.

Iran is threading with care, and they know they don't match the US, but if US dare attack her, they will fight US with all they have, The Persians fought Iraq will little international support even when Saddam Hussein was being supported by the entire western world, Iran back then had few weapons and depended largely on Foreign countries for military hardwares, yet they were able to push Iraq out of Iran and fought like never before, in fact they changed the objective of the war and was about encroaching Iraq. Iran fought to keep its sovereignty with tooth and nail even when Iraq was using chemical weapons on them.

Now fast forward to 2019, Iran has so many affiliated militias in Lebanon (Hezbollah, strongest in the world, that even the almighty Isreal would think twice before stealing Lebanese land), Houthi Shia groups (Yemen militias kicking Saudi ass in Yemen), Syria military (If not for Iran, The rebels would have defeated Bashar al-Assad), Iraq (Iraq is now an ally of Iran). That's not all, Iran has a homegrown military industry, they produce their own rockets, guns, submarines, aircraft (thou inferior), sophisticated missiles, etc, now tell me how you intend defeating a country such as this with ease? or you think Iran is Libya?

US knows this and they know invading Iran unprovoked will end their influence in the region, this war won't only end in Iran, it will affect all Middle East countries including Saudi Arabia and Isreal, Just an order from Iran and see how Hezbollah unleash their madness.

US is powerful, but wars are not always won by that. a war with Iran isnt what we should be praying for, as millions will perish. God heal the Middle East.
what does Iran has to fight US? Tell us. Nuclear weapon or what. Can Iran go ahead and invade US territory. Can never happen while the US has every strength to invade Iran on their territory just like Iraq. If US act the same way all this terrorists countries boast, all these countries wld have been forgotten.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by FunkyAlhaji2015: 10:52am On May 20, 2019
Ifesinachi22:


Even if Iran military is made of iron and Robots, can they challenge the US?

Even that North Korean kid dare not

The Arabs aren't afraid of death, the Americans are
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by tfash96(m): 10:54am On May 20, 2019
EbukaHades10:
Who is Trump?
so u don't know him

Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Nobody: 10:55am On May 20, 2019
Asour:




Seeing there has not been any World wars since (1945) world war II (a primary reason for the formation of the UN), In that sense, it'll be unfair to say that the UN has "Failed".

Avoiding international skirmishes between/amongst various countries is almost Impossible— it's like preventing Senior secondary students in Government schools from engaging in fights.

I agree totally with your take on the UN's role BUT the fact that we (the world) and the UN have been able to avert (until now) any major World-war scale violence is no mean feat. the UN would spread itself too thin if it keeps chasing any/every potentially violent situation around the world.
The UN as it is composed can not be fair,with the G8, Veto powers and all...some say the UN is a tool, a neo colonial system...
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Philinho(m): 10:56am On May 20, 2019
EbukaHades10:
Who is Trump?
You will know when it happened..
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Lonelypacifist6: 10:56am On May 20, 2019
America is 243 years old and has been at war for 226 of 243 years That's 93 percent of its existence since 1776 the longest time they've been at consecutive peace is 1935-1940 and it's because of the great depression. Even at that I went to war after America escape the 2008 financial crisis by going to war with Libya stole billions worth of gold and robbed their central bank And oil reserves America economy is built on war Hence they always go to war with oil rich state Jonathan refused to allow them to build a military Base in Nigeria Obama retaliated by stop buying our oil Now tell who is the Warmonger here .

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by wingmanII: 10:56am On May 20, 2019
Efewestern:


* Get Isreal to leave Lebanon
* Remain active despite Israel's ultimate plan to eliminate them
* Remain a resistant block in Lebanon against Isreal's land grabbing antics

What objective did Israel ever accomplished the two times they met with Hezbollah?

Did your write up above make sense to you?
Israel did not occupy Lebanon as at the period of that "war", so how is it an objective?
IPOB has remained active despite FGN banning and proscribing them, does it mean IPOB has defeated Nigeria.?

I don't think you have written down any objective.

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 10:57am On May 20, 2019
Ifesinachi22:


Even if Iran military is made of iron and Robots, can they challenge the US?

Even that North Korean kid dare not
The only reason the US hasn't yet invaded Iran is because Russia is on their side. The US hides behind nonsense excuses to invade countries. They've been doing that since the early nineties
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by wingmanII: 10:58am On May 20, 2019
Efewestern:


Air only gives you great advantages, don't not be deceived, without a well coordinated ground troops, you can't win a war, plus Iran isnt a plane field you can just bomb, the country is filled with rocks.

Tell that to Japan that surrendered immediately after Hiroshima
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 10:58am On May 20, 2019
salamudeen:
Abeg compare the Size of Iran with the size of USA...


Tell this to either Russia or China Please...

Just like saying Lagos state threatening a local Government in Bayelsa


Why would such be coming out from a president? this one is just a business man not a president @ all

Some Ignorantis that doesnt know the aftermath of war would come out and start saying trash....

One thing i realised here is 90% percent of the people who would be happy about the news would be mainly Christians and Igbos here in Nigeria...


FYI.... Am not bashing anybody am just saying my mind if e pain you this is a faceless forum dont be offended

It's silly of you to bring religion into this. Anyone who knows how the US always spoils for war will never support them
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by crowley(m): 11:00am On May 20, 2019
This yeye trump just be making mouth upandown. he nor dey use eye see small country. Fear nor dey let am face e mates. He nor see Russia and Germany? na who he go fit beat he dey treaten. when russia uprooted all US millitary attilary from their boarders, trump just hide face.
Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by EMEKUSBOY9(m): 11:00am On May 20, 2019
crowley:

north korean kid? Kim? a psychopath? he dared not? where do you read you news from? it was china that calmed him down when they told him to stop his missile testing so close to the boarder or they will stop trade with them. trump his just a noisy rabbit with a tupay. he treatened to fire upon north korea if they tested any more weapons, the following week he tested 7, and told trump he has a thermo-nuclear weapon. trump went to china and asked them to intervane na.

So for your dream, north Korea is stronger than america ? You pay much focus on north Korea and forget America. World power no be beans

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Re: Donald Trump: If Iran Wants A Fight That Will Be The Official End Of Iran by Asour: 11:01am On May 20, 2019
dermmy:


I know the failure of the League of nations led to the creation of UN and the world has not experienced a world war since its inception but that doesn't mean it hasn't failed. The way powerful countries are taking unilateral actions without consulting the UN is increasingly alarming, look at Russia's annexation of Crimea, US declaration of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and China's occupation of the south China sea all these contravenes international law.

UN was created in order to promote multilateralism but the powerful countries that gave birth to this body are the ones promoting a unilateral world order in present times and this is not good for world peace and stability. A Powerful country like US can act the way it chooses because no country can question her. Last year the ICC filed a case against US war atrocities and human right abuses in Afghanistan Donald Trump responded by threatening those ICC lawyers/judges with visa ban and sanctions now after much pressure from the US the ICC withdrew the law suit recently but if it were to be an African country the west would exert maximum pressure on that black country.

Look at the crimes Israel has committed against the Palestinians Israel used butterfly bullets and banned chemical gases on these people last year but no country in the UN talked, non state organisations like human rights watch can only bark they can't take concrete action or lobby a UN member nation to act. The UN has failed Sir



You are right on the negatives of unilateral actions by powerful countries. quite sad.

But this is hardly surprising. the US and its citizens make (proportionally) the most contributions to the operations of the UN. not that this should make them(UN) fully under the control of the US but it is hard to expect anything different from this world where "those who pay the Piper dictate his tunes".

The world would need to ensure a more balanced UN supported by a more balanced structure (rather than a lopsided one) in order to then EXPECT more balanced global interventions.

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