Anduku:

Stop trying to act dumb, you know to well what he is talking about. The current talking point among the lunatic liberals in the US to give a mother a right to kill an already born child if she decides she doesn't like the child and doesn't want to keep it. Yes, that's where the lunatics are at the moment, infanticide is the newest stupidity that the idiots are pushing for

let me play dumb again, define "already born" from your own understanding! Just humor me, define please

BraniacX:
let me play dumb again, define "already born" from your own understanding! Just humor me, define please

Verbatim quote from the word's of Virginia's democratic governor Ralph Northam "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen, The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired , and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
You might also want to Google the debate about a late term abortion bill proposed by a democratic Virginia state legislator called Kathy Tran. Enough said

budaatum:

Anduku should provide evidence for his claim that "the mother can still request the child killed within 24hrs". Some of us just don't believe anything without evidence!

I would like you to show me where I said, "the mother can still request the child killed within 24hrs".

Mindfulness:


Paranoia is a serious mental disorder. Google it and then try to get help. You need it.

Ignorance is a debilitating social disorder. Try to get informed about issues before jumping in to contribute with stupid comments

wirinet:

Killing an already born child is termed murder and not abortion. A fetus becomes a baby (a legal person) the minute it leaves it's mother's womb and is capable of independent existence.

You are right in calling it murder. The point I am making is that the lunatic liberals are now talking about legalizing infanticide. if the mother doesn't like the child she gave birth to, the doctors will basically deny the baby the needed medical attention and allow the already born baby to die if the mother so desires. This is exactly the newest madness that we are getting from the ever depraved lunatic liberals

Anduku:

You are right in calling it murder. The point I am making is that the lunatic liberals are now talking about legalizing infanticide. if the mother doesn't like the child she gave birth to, the doctors will basically deny the baby the needed medical attention and allow the already born baby to die if the mother so desires. This is exactly the newest madness that we are getting from the ever depraved lunatic liberals

Exactly, plus the democrats are blocking in the senate the Born Alive Protection Bill meant to compel doctors to provide medicare to infant abortion survivors.

zendi:

Exactly, plus the democrats are blocking in the senate the Born Alive Protection Bill meant to compel doctors to provide medicare to infant abortion survivors.

You are spot on. The born alive bill was introduced by republican senator Ben sasse to make it mandatory for doctors to provide medical care to children born alive whether the parents likes to keep it or not but the lunatic democrats refused to vote for it because they prefer the baby is allowed to die. All these democrats supporters on nairaland are sounding so ignorant and uninformed about these things.

Kophschmerzen:



You are either clinically r*etarded or just trying hard to be an erratic old screwball with the IQ of nothingness. Like me and the other man always say, we don't run our mouth on Nigerian issues, while y'all mouthing clear ignorance on American issues. Why ain't we picking issues with Nigerians not backing the racist, whitist and stupidity currently happening in Merica.

That you even compare that with this numbskull running extreme white nationalist talking point, shows that you are a thin-skinned gibberish-secreting low-wattage fusspot crybaby who should be confined in a wet dainty paper sack for the rest of your miserable life.

Idiocy, idiocy, idiocy!!! That's all the mayor of idiotville has to offer

Anduku:

Ignorance is a debilitating social disorder. Try to get informed about issues before jumping in to contribute with stupid comments

Abortion of already born babies.

Anduku:

Stop trying to act dumb, you know to well what he is talking about. The current talking point among the lunatic liberals in the US to give a mother a right to kill an already born child if she decides she doesn't like the child and doesn't want to keep it. Yes, that's where the lunatics are at the moment, infanticide is the newest stupidity that the idiots are pushing for

Anduku:

I would like you to show me where I said, "the mother can still request the child killed within 24hrs".

You need to ask Templ1288, Anduku. He's the one who claimed you were trying to "explain" it to us but we "don't seem to understand". Perhaps he's the one who doesn't understand.

That said, you do seem to have said so in the following:

Anduku:

You are right in calling it murder. The point I am making is that the lunatic liberals are now talking about legalizing infanticide. if the mother doesn't like the child she gave birth to, the doctors will basically deny the baby the needed medical attention and allow the already born baby to die if the mother so desires. This is exactly the newest madness that we are getting from the ever depraved lunatic liberals

Republican Justin Amash Claims Donald Trump Engaged in ‘Impeachable Conduct

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/18/justin-amash-claims-donald-trump-engaged-in-impeachable-conduct/


Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) became the first Republican congressman to accuse President Donald Trump of engaging in “impeachable conduct,” citing findings laid out in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on now-debunked collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 presidential election.
Often a lone Republican voice in Congress, Amash sent a series of tweets Saturday faulting both President Trump and Attorney General William Barr over Mueller’s report. Mueller wrapped the investigation and submitted his report to Barr in late March. Barr then released a summary of Mueller’s “principal conclusions” and released a redacted version of the report in April. In a summary to Congress, Barr said Team Mueller concluded that the Trump campaign did not collude with Russia. Further, the attorney general stated Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump obstructed justice, stating that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein determined that the president had not done so.

Amash said he reached four conclusions after carefully reading the redacted version of Mueller’s report, including that “President Trump has engaged in impeachable conduct.”

“Contrary to Barr’s portrayal, Mueller’s report reveals that President Trump engaged in specific actions and a pattern of behavior that meets the threshold for impeachment,” the congressman tweeted. He said the report “identifies multiple examples of conduct satisfying all the elements of obstruction of justice, and undoubtedly any person who is not the president of the United States would be indicted based on such evidence.”

However, Amash stopped short of calling on Congress to begin impeachment proceedings against President Trump, which many Democrats have been agitating for.

Anduku:

Verbatim quote from the word's of Virginia's democratic governor Ralph Northam "If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen, The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired , and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
You might also want to Google the debate about a late term abortion bill proposed by a democratic Virginia state legislator called Kathy Tran. Enough said

and exactly what way does the highlighted interpret into infanticide or as the other guy put it "aborting already born babies"? A late term abortion bill is still an issue of choice, the mother's choice! And spare me your hypocritical conservative moral pro-life outrage! You champion conservatives who are so pro-life they care little to nothing about the already living championing exploitative medico-pharmaceutical unbridled capitalism of as much good health as you can afford. And oh! Don't play dumb on that either

BraniacX:
and exactly what way does the highlighted interpret into infanticide or as the other guy put it "aborting already born babies"? A late term abortion bill is still an issue of choice, the mother's choice! And spare me your hypocritical conservative moral pro-life outrage! You champion conservatives who are so pro-life they care little to nothing about the already living championing exploitative medico-pharmaceutical unbridled capitalism of as much good health as you can afford. And oh! Don't play dumb on that either

English comprehension seems not to be your Forte. So after reading the highlighted portions of my comment, you still could not see the blatant infanticide therein? Or is it that you are just deliberately acting dumb like I said earlier? If an infant is only to be resuscitated if the mother desires it, then what happens to the living infant if the mother doesn't? As for the rest of your incoherent rantings, I don't 't expect anything less from characters like you, once you are exposed in an attempted falsehood, you attempt to divert by jumping into another falsehood or simply engage in a meaningless angry rant. So if I am to believe you, conservatives are responsible for high drug prices? And pray how is that so? Reducing drug prices has always been one of the top priorities of the Trump administration and drug prices are actually coming down during his tenure. I will be waiting for your answers on how conservatives are championing exploitative Medico-pharmaceutical practices as you claim but you might want to read the following articles from your liberal leaning news sites before you launch into another meaningless rant

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/22/trump-health-agenda-transparent-drug-prices-lower-insurance-costs-column/1721645002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/health/drug-prices-rebates-sotu.html

budaatum:

You need to ask Templ1288, Anduku. He's the one who claimed you were trying to "explain" it to us but we "don't seem to understand". Perhaps he's the one who doesn't understand.

That said, you do seem to have said so in the following:

I only explained what the governor of Virginia said to the person I was responding to. You can read his verbatim quote in the earlier posts I made. He blatantly advocated for parents and doctor to have the right to refuse medical attention to an already born child unless the parents want to keep it. It was in response to his outrageous comments that senator Ben sasse introduced the born alive bill to make it mandatory for doctors to provide medical care to children born alive whether the parents likes to keep it or not but the lunatic democrats refused to vote for it. Why on earth will any sane person vote against a bill that seeks to guarantee medical attention for any baby born alive?

Mindfulness:


Abortion of already born babies.

The person who made that comment has already explained why he used the word abortion and put it in parenthesis but you decide to deliberately avoid the facts he was stating and chose to continue dwelling on his choice of words. You can continue in your self deceit but the evidence is out there that a lunatic leader in the democratic party advocated for infanticide and lunatic democrat lawmakers refused to vote for a bill that guarantees medical services for children born alive

stanech:
Bernie Sanders says his brand of socialism isn't like Venezuela's

But Venezuela VOTED for:

Universal healthcare

Government-run banking

Abolishing gun rights

Bernie is running on:

Universal healthcare

Government-run banking

Abolishing gun rights

Socialism will NEVER work!

According to the left, "that wasn't true socialism."

Each time socialism is implemented and it fails immensely, the left screams "that wasn't true socialism."

Anduku:

The person who made that comment has already explained why he used the word abortion and put it in parenthesis but you decide to deliberately avoid the facts he was stating and chose to continue dwelling on his choice of words. You can continue in your self deceit but the evidence is out there that a lunatic leader in the democratic party advocated for infanticide and lunatic democrat lawmakers refused to vote for a bill that guarantees medical services for children born alive

Are you trying to wiggle yourself out of your du*mb comments? Won't work. Abortion of already born babies and infanticide.
No wonder you fall for TRump's lies.

Mindfulness:


Are you trying to wiggle yourself out of your du*mb comments? Won't work. Abortion of already born babies and infanticide.
No wonder you fall for TRump's lies.

Can you show me where I said already born babies can be aborted? If you can't then you must admit that you are the one being dumb here when you don't even have the ability to differentiate between different posters on the forum. No wonder you are easily brainwashed by your lunatic liberal masters

budaatum:
Fact check: Did Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam state he 'would execute a baby after birth'

Speaking about abortion, Trump said, "we had the case of governor of Virginia where he stated he would execute a baby after birth."

A spokesman for the governor, Ralph Northam, disputed this characterization of confusing remarks he made days ago — and it should be noted that Northam was discussing a hypothetical procedure that would occur only in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy.

Nonetheless, he caused a firestorm when he responded to a question related to a proposed state law that would have made it somewhat easier for a woman to obtain an abortion later in a pregnancy for medical reasons.

Asked on a radio program what happens when a woman is going into labor who desires a third-trimester abortion, Northam noted that this kind of procedure only occurs in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy. He said that in this scenario, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

It’s worth noting that the proposed Virginia law — which failed to pass the Republican-controlled legislature — wasn’t proposing legalizing abortions in the third trimester; that is are already legal in the state. The bill proposed changing the number of physicians required for that kind of abortion’s approval — from three to one doctor. It also proposed broadening the list of health concerns that would allow a woman to seek approval for such an abortion.

Nice try at misdirection, you and your fake news NBC can only pull that wool over the eyes of your fellow Dumbocrats. no one on this forum accused him of saying he would "execute babies after birth" so stop fact checking things nobody here said anyway. What he said and which you have confirmed in your fake fact check is that if a baby is born alive after the mother desired an abortion, then the doctors will only resuscitate the baby if the mother so wishes. The question we have been asking which all of you are masterfully avoiding is, what if the mother and the family do not wish for the baby to be resuscitated? Governor Northam's comment is a very plain advocacy for infanticide. If a baby born alive will only be given medical care if the mother desires it then he is essentially saying that if the mother doesn't want it then the baby should be allowed to die. This comment prompted the Republicans in the senate to introduce a bill that makes it compulsory for doctors to provide medical care for babies born alive whether the mother wishes it or not but the democrats in congress voted against it which brings me to my second question, why would any sane person vote against a bill to guarantee medical care for any child born alive?

Another disturbing trend I am seeing here is the the lunatic dems see.m to be justifying infanticide by saying it's only in a case of a child born with deformity. So children who are born with deformities don't have a right to life and can only live at the discretion of their parents? Wow!! Just when you think these liberal idiots can't get any stupider

Anduku:

Can you show me where I said already born babies can be aborted? If you can't then you must admit that you are the one being dumb here when you don't even have the ability to differentiate between different posters on the forum. No wonder you are easily brainwashed by your lunatic liberal masters

I applaud you for distancing yourself from the du*mb comments you and your friend made and for understanding FINALLY how du*mb these comments were. Aborting born babies.

Anduku:

English comprehension seems not to be your Forte. So after reading the highlighted portions of my comment, you still could not see the blatant infanticide therein? Or is it that you are just deliberately acting dumb like I said earlier? If an infant is only to be resuscitated if the mother desires it, then what happens to the living infant if the mother doesn't? As for the rest of your incoherent rantings, I don't 't expect anything less from characters like you, once you are exposed in an attempted falsehood, you attempt to divert by jumping into another falsehood or simply engage in a meaningless angry rant. So if I am to believe you, conservatives are responsible for high drug prices? And pray how is that so? Reducing drug prices has always been one of the top priorities of the Trump administration and drug prices are actually coming down during his tenure. I will be waiting for your answers on how conservatives are championing exploitative Medico-pharmaceutical practices as you claim but you might want to read the following articles from your liberal leaning news sites before you launch into another meaningless rant

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/10/22/trump-health-agenda-transparent-drug-prices-lower-insurance-costs-column/1721645002/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/health/drug-prices-rebates-sotu.html

Dunning-Kruger-Effect

Anduku:

Nice try at misdirection, you and your fake news NBC can only pull that wool over the eyes of your fellow Dumbocrats. no one on this forum accused him of saying he would "execute babies after birth" so stop fact checking things nobody here said anyway. What he said and which you have confirmed in your fake fact check is that if a baby is born alive after the mother desired an abortion, then the doctors will only resuscitate the baby if the mother so wishes. The question we have been asking which all of you are masterfully avoiding is, what if the mother and the family do not wish for the baby to be resuscitated? Governor Northam's comment is a very plain advocacy for infanticide. If a baby born alive will only be given medical care if the mother desires it then he is essentially saying that if the mother doesn't want it then the baby should be allowed to die. This comment prompted the Republicans in the senate to introduce a bill that makes it compulsory for doctors to provide medical care for babies born alive whether the mother wishes it or not but the democrats in congress voted against it which brings me to my second question, why would any sane person vote against a bill to guarantee medical care for any child born alive?

It's amusing that you misdirect then point your misdirected finger at others. The "proposed state law would have made it somewhat easier for a woman to obtain an abortion later in a pregnancy for medical reasons", and "abortions in the third trimester are already legal in the (Republican led) state". If such battles are going on over abortions, I wonder why you think they'd all of a sudden jump to "execute a baby after birth", as Trump put it!

It’s goodbye Russian collusion, hello crooked finances for the anti-Trump movement.

Expect a variety of stories on questionable financial deals by Donald Trump well before he became President.

Martinez39:
According to the left, "that wasn't true socialism."

Each time socialism is implemented and it fails immensely, the left screams "that wasn't true socialism."

Venezuela is not true socialism

What of
Romania
Poland
Hungary
Bulgaria
USSR
Albania
East Germany

At this rate, almost all ex-Trump appointees May be in danger of a contempt of Congress citation. This is definitely an unprecedented breach of Congress’s oversight authority

PDPGuy:
At this rate, almost all ex-Trump appointees May be in danger of a contempt of Congress citation. This is definitely an unprecedented breach of Congress’s oversight authority

...what these ex-appointees don't understand is that regardless of how long Trump stays in power...'even if' he wins his 2nd term...in 6 years time Trump will leave power and they will face lots of legal battles in the courts...

We have cross impeachment waters, that Pelosi is stalling on this, is not only gut wrenching but disgusting. This country feels like a third world shit hole already. This idiot keep shiting on all checks and balances.

Mindfulness:


I applaud you for distancing yourself from the du*mb comments you and your friend made and for understanding FINALLY how du*mb these comments were. Aborting born babies.

That you couldn't rise up to the simple challenge I gave you to show me where I said already born babies can be aborted says all there is to say. If you can't show me that then spare me your crap. You either put up or shut up!!

budaatum:

It's amusing that you misdirect then point your misdirected finger at others. The "proposed state law would have made it somewhat easier for a woman to obtain an abortion later in a pregnancy for medical reasons", and "abortions in the third trimester are already legal in the (Republican led) state". If such battles are going on over abortions, I wonder why you think they'd all of a sudden jump to "execute a baby after birth", as Trump put it!

Are you arguing with Donald Trump here? Why go and fact check what he said as a counter to what we are saying here? I expect you to fact check our claims here and not try to counter us by fact checking what another person said.