Mindfulness:


Dunning-Kruger-Effect

Doltish rant

Anduku:

Are you arguing with Donald Trump here? Why go and fact check what he said as a counter to what we are saying here? I expect you to fact check our claims here and not try to counter us by fact checking what another person said.

I did fact check, Andu. And Trump wasn't just "misdirecting", he was miscategorising and lying too when he claimed "we had the case of governor of Virginia where he stated he would execute a baby after birth." But that's politics for you. And not really the issue here. The problems start when people like you, whom I assume is intelligent, say the same thing as if its factually true which it isn't.

No one is legislating killing born babies. And anyone who does would pay for such stupidities at the next elections whether dems or rebs, except if the likes of you, regardless of which party you support, suddenly stops using your brain which I personally hope never happens. I don't just believe you would go on supporting a party if it proposed legislation you oppose.

Anduku:

That you couldn't rise up to the simple challenge I gave you to show me where I said already born babies can be aborted says all there is to say. If you can't show me that then spare me your crap. You either put up or shut up!!

You don't think you will make me dig up your fo*olish posts. One only needs to read the most recent ones. There is all that is to know. Now go and like your own posts.

Mindfulness:


You don't think you will make me dig up your fo*olish posts. One only needs to read the most recent ones. There is all that is to know. Now go and like your own posts.

I'll dig it up for you. Though we'll have to ask him to explain what he meant in light of his protests. It might be that someone hijacked his NL account.

Anduku:

Stop trying to act dumb, you know to well what he is talking about. The current talking point among the lunatic liberals in the US to give a mother a right to kill an already born child if she decides she doesn't like the child and doesn't want to keep it. Yes, that's where the lunatics are at the moment, infanticide is the newest stupidity that the idiots are pushing for

budaatum:
I'll dig it up for you. Though we'll have to ask him to explain what he meant in light of his protests. It might be that someone hijacked his NL account.

Anduku:

Stop trying to act dumb, you know to well what he is talking about. The current talking point among the lunatic liberals in the US to give a mother a right to kill an already born child if she decides she doesn't like the child and doesn't want to keep it. Yes, that's where the lunatics are at the moment, infanticide is the newest stupidity that the idiots are pushing for

Anduku, where are you?

zendi:

Talking about the stone ages, what do you think about 'aborting' already born babies? The ones that go by the chicanery, Progressives, are the real stone age barbarians.

All the people making ado about this post with regards to "aborting already born babies" should note that in english language, the word 'abort' simply means to terminate something prematurely. So what makes it a verb that can only apply inside a womb? The barbaric proposals of "Progressive" Ralph Northam amount to simply a continuation of the effort to terminate the life of the baby, within or without the womb, at the nod of the mother, by denying it rescussitation, by simply neglecting it to death. For good measure, it is also called Post-Birth Abortion.

Mindfulness:


You don't think you will make me dig up your fo*olish posts. One only needs to read the most recent ones. There is all that is to know. Now go and like your own posts.

Simply put you can't find any post either recent or old where I spoke about already born babies being aborted. Just admit you lied, tuck your tails between your legs and scram. "Now go and like your own posts" What's that even supposed to mean? I mean if you want to rant at least do it like an adult and not throw lame insults like a mentally deficient toddler

Mindfulness:




Anduku, where are you?

Where in that post did I mention abortion of already born babies? You mean you guys are so mentally deficient that you can't differentiate between the words "abortion" and "infanticide"? I mean their spellings are not even similar, how much more easier could it get for you? Even a child with basic English knowledge can do better than this. Gosh!!!

Anduku:

If you are not dumb as a rock, where in that post you quoted did you see me using the words "aborting already born babies" like your Half witted friend accused me of doing? You lamebrained liberals are just a waste of time. If you can't comprehend simple English, how is one supposed to carry on a sensible conversation with you? Someone accuses me of mentioning "abortion of already born babies", I ask her to show me where I said it and you foolishly jump in to bring up a post that doesn't even mention abortion as your evidence? Good lord!!! You mean you can't differentiate between the words "abortion" and "infanticide "? SMH

Only a fool would argue whether you want to "abortion of already born babies" or "kill an already born child". Below is what I said you said.

"The current talking point among the lunatic liberals in the US to give a mother a right to kill an already born child"

And no one proposed such nonsense! You must be one of those libtards you're always ranting about. You sure lie like one!

zendi:


All the people making ado about this post with regards to "aborting already born babies" should note that in english language, the word 'abort' simply means to terminate something prematurely. So what makes it a verb that can only apply inside a womb? The barbaric proposals of "Progressive" Ralph Northam amount to simply a continuation of the effort to terminate the life of the baby, within or without the womb, at the nod of the mother, by denying it rescussitation, by simply neglecting it to death. For good measure, it is also called Post-Birth Abortion.

It's not about whether you abort the born baby or kill it zendi. No one proposed either in any bill is our point here, and not the strawnonsense Anduku is trying to turn it into!

budaatum:

It's not about whether you abort the born baby or kill it zendi. No one proposed either in any bill is our point here, and not the strawnonsense Anduku is trying to turn it into!

Can you be kind enough to explain to us what Gov. Ralph northam meant when he said, the baby will only be resuscitated if that's what the mother wishes? And what happens to the baby if the mother doesn't wish it to be resuscitated? And why did the democrats vote against the born alive Bill? This is the third time I am asking you this question, you never answer it instead you run off to go and fact check Donald Trump as if he is arguing with you on nairaland. Here you have another chance to prove me wrong. I'll be waiting for your answer, provide them or admit that I am right!!!

budaatum:

Only a fool would argue whether you want to "abortion of already born babies" or "kill an already born child". Below is what I said you said.

"The current talking point among the lunatic liberals in the US to give a mother a right to kill an already born child"

And no one proposed such nonsense! You must be one of those libtards you're always ranting about. You sure lie like one!

And I provided you a verbatim quote by Governor ralph northam to back up my claim. You are yet to disprove that he said the words I quoted or prove that his words don't imply infanticide yet you accuse me of lying? Now tell us what governor ralph northam meant by keeping the baby and resuscitating it only if the parents desire it? You better give us a good explanation of what what this words mean before you ever call me a liar again. And don't avoid this question again, if you say no one proposed such nonsense as you call it, then you must explain exactly what governor northam meant or admit that you are the one who is the bloody liar here

Anduku:

Can you be kind enough to explain to us what Gov. Ralph northam meant when he said, the baby will only be resuscitated if that's what the mother wishes?

I already did. Read the factcheck I posted on the subject. If you are capable of differentiating between "abort a baby" and "kill a baby", I'm confident you can differentiate between "a comment" and "a bill".

Anduku:

And why did the democrats vote against the born alive Bill?

Politics, probably. You know what you Americans can be like. Though, in my opinion, it's a stupid bill.

In my opinion, abortions should not be happening if the foetus has reached the point of viability except in very extreme circumstances like the life of the mother is threatened. When you decide to fight for that, please call on me to support you.

Anduku:

You better give us a good explanation of what what this words mean before you ever call me a liar again.

I never called you a liar Anduku! Least I hope I never did. (I hope, because I am having a conversation with a liar on another thread and hope I haven't mixed you up with that person).

Anduku:

And I provided you a verbatim quote by Governor ralph northam to back up my claim. You are yet to disprove that he said the words I quoted or prove that his words don't imply infanticide yet you accuse me of lying?

He made a comment. It was not in a bill.

budaatum:
Fact check: Did Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam state he 'would execute a baby after birth'

Speaking about abortion, Trump said, "we had the case of governor of Virginia where he stated he would execute a baby after birth."

A spokesman for the governor, Ralph Northam, disputed this characterization of confusing remarks he made days ago — and it should be noted that Northam was discussing a hypothetical procedure that would occur only in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy.

Nonetheless, he caused a firestorm when he responded to a question related to a proposed state law that would have made it somewhat easier for a woman to obtain an abortion later in a pregnancy for medical reasons.

Asked on a radio program what happens when a woman is going into labor who desires a third-trimester abortion, Northam noted that this kind of procedure only occurs in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancy. He said that in this scenario, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

It’s worth noting that the proposed Virginia law — which failed to pass the Republican-controlled legislature — wasn’t proposing legalizing abortions in the third trimester; that is are already legal in the state. The bill proposed changing the number of physicians required for that kind of abortion’s approval — from three to one doctor. It also proposed broadening the list of health concerns that would allow a woman to seek approval for such an abortion.

budaatum:

I already did. Read the factcheck I posted on the subject. If you are capable of differentiating between "abort a baby" and "kill a baby", I'm confident you can differentiate between "a comment" and "a bill".


Politics, probably. You know what you Americans can be like. Though, in my opinion, it's a stupid bill.

In my opinion, abortions should not be happening if the foetus has reached the point of viability except in very extreme circumstances like the life of the mother is threatened. When you decide to fight for that, please call on me to support you.

I never said governor northam proposed any infanticide bill? The fact that he could be brazen enough to make such a comment on radio is scary enough for anyone with common sense. He is the governor of a state, not just any commoner, if he could float such an idea publicly, then how long before we start hearing the same argument from other mainstream politicians?

Anduku:

I never said governor northam proposed any infanticide bill? The fact that he could be brazen enough to make such a comment on radio is scary enough for anyone with common sense. He is the governor of a state, not just any commoner, if he could float such an idea publicly, then how long before we start hearing the same argument from other mainstream politicians?

A governor, Anduku, and not a dictator who can just do whatever he wants. And besides, of a swing state, having only won from Republican William Troy Bolling in 2014.

Tie him up in court instead if he proposes such nonsense in a bill. Campaign against him even and get him kicked out! You don't have to do what you constantly accuse libtards of doing, though, I must admit that misrepresenting the opponents position is 'campaign against' for some. But you're not campaigning here, so why not stick to the facts (okay, I'm laughing at myself for asking those involved in American politics to stick to facts lol!)

Anduku:

Where in that post did I mention abortion of already born babies? You mean you guys are so mentally deficient that you can't differentiate between the words "abortion" and "infanticide"? I mean their spellings are not even similar, how much more easier could it get for you? Even a child with basic English knowledge can do better than this. Gosh!!!

Considering the fact that a child has better comprehension skills than me, it's hard for you to ignore my opinion of you.

Mindfulness:


Considering the fact that a child has better comprehension skills than me, it's hard for you to ignore my opinion of you.

You must be delusional. Why the hell would I care what you think about me? I am curious, of what importance are you to my life? You think too highly of yourself. You are of no relevance to my life and so I really don't give a damn what you think about me or not

In his own words:

Ralph Northam: You know, I wasn’t there, Julie, and I certainly can’t speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you — one, the first thing I would say is this is why decisions such as this should be made by [healthcare] providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved. There are — you know when we talk about third-trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of, obviously, the mother, with the consent of the physicians, more than one physician by the way. And it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that’s non-viable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. So I think this was really blown out of proportion

Redesign of $20 bill postponed: Harriet Tubman no longer coming in 2020

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/22/harriet-tubman-20-bill-no-longer-coming-in-2020.html

The redesign of the $20 bill featuring Harriet Tubman will no longer be unveiled in 2020, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Wednesday.

The unveiling had been timed to coincide with the 100th anniversary of the 19th Amendment, which granted women the right to vote. Mnuchin said the design process has been delayed and no new imagery will be unveiled until 2028.

“The primary reason we have looked at redesigning the currency is for counterfeiting issues,” Mnuchin said in response to questions by Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., during a hearing before the House Financial Services Committee. “Based upon this, the $20 bill will now not come out until 2028. The $10 bill and the $50 bill will come out with new features beforehand.”

The Tubman design was announced in 2016 by former Treasury Secretary Jack Lew following a 10-month process in which the department sought input from the public.

“The decision to put Harriet Tubman on the new $20 was driven by thousands of responses we received from Americans young and old,” Lew said at the time. “I have been particularly struck by the many comments and reactions from children for whom Harriet Tubman is not just a historical figure, but a role model for leadership and participation in our democracy.”

President Donald Trump, months before he was elected, called the decision to put Tubman on the currency “pure political correctness” and proposed putting her portrait on the $2 bill.

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Susan Rice
Loretta Lynch
Samantha Powers
Preet Bharara
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Theresa May finally out...!!!
Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.
Democracy is democracy.
Brexit now looks certain;
Hard Brexit, or No-Deal Brexit.
Brexit is Brexit.
What the people want is what the people want.


Atchung : This post may be a disruption to this thread.
Plz bear with it.

zendi:
Theresa May finally out...!!!
Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.
Democracy is democracy.
Brexit now looks certain;
Hard Brexit, or No-Deal Brexit.
Brexit is Brexit.
What the people want is what the people want.


Atchung : This post may be a disruption to this thread.
Plz bear with it.

Its fine

Insane Democrats to Barr: We MUST declassify documents or it’s a coverup!

Same Insane Democrats to Trump: If you declassify documents you are undermining our democracy!

No serious person takes the Democrats seriously anymore. They’re an embarrassing bunch of fools.

I don't know if Pelosi is "crazy," as Trump suggests, but she did just start a public insult war with the best public insulter in the solar system, so...

DEVELOPING: House Judiciary Chairman Nadler appears to pass out during press conference in NYC



Just as Trump declassifies everything. . . . I'd faint too if I were him

Harriet Tubman won't be on the 20 bucks anytime soon again. And y'all think this piece of wood is not a racist.

"I declassified everything. Everything they want I put it under the auspice of the attorney general...So everything that they need is declassified. And they’ll be able to see how this hoax started and why it started. It was an attempted coup..." -
@realDonaldTrump
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Fact