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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:06pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
That is nonsense. Population structure matters more than the number. I have no problem if China are 1.5B people - as long as they've got the right kind of structure - meaning few and well-spaced kids for families to be able to manage it. And that we can only do by providing men and women the tools to choose when and how to have kids.

The best countries in the world are not the USA or China - they are the smaller Luxemburgs, Switzerland, Qatar, the UAEs, Singapores, Bruneis- those are countries where nearly all citizens enjoy a high quality of life.

In Africa - Mauritus, Botswana, Namibias and Seychelles enjoy high standard of living - with say a primary school teacher buying a nice little new car on his first employment date.

US or China may be a powerful country - but who really care about power - when they have so many poor people living in tents or streets - or food aid.



The guy doesn't know china had to adopt population control to stop population explosion
He is busy following magufuli order to breed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:11pm On May 27, 2019
Verbose nonsense. What matters for any right thinking person is qualify of life for the average citizen. You can keep Nigerian and give us more Botswanas any day.
Mbakuthegreat:
@Yobeezy
@Jonraid
@kikuyu1
@tylann
@rvp2018 (You too)

Low IQ fools use your brains. Africa is the most underpopulated continent in the world, DRC is half the size of Europe, so its Europe which is overpopulated, now imagine if our lands reflected its population? We would have strong economic and militaristic powers in Africa, which is exactly why they the west doesn't want Africas population to grow while at the same time making sure that their population grows by taking in migrants and paying their women to have more kids. Living standard doesn't matter, economic power and militaristic power matters. While Botswana has a high living standar(and rising gdp) it will never be able to come up to the economy of that of a bigger population like Nigeria or to its militaristic power. Botswana differiante from the rest of Africa and its neighbouring countries. Botswana was a protectorate and was not colonized by white people and it found its minerals after independence and is one of few african countries with nationalized minerals. The reason Botswana has maintained it success of high living standard is because foreign governments didn't put its mind to infiltrate it successfully and import revolution, poverty and hunger unlike in many other African countries, and Botswana is a story of good leadership. Look at Lybia, it used to have one of the highest living standard in Africa until the west overthrew Gaddafi, now the country is shattered with war, poverty and hunger. Living standard didn't matter as long as they didn't have the capacity to defend themselves, Lybia has 6 million people.

In every continent the countries with the highest populations are the ones with the biggest GDP and Military. The biggest economy in Asia is China(1.3+ bilion people) followed by Japan(120+ million people), India(1.3+ billion people), and Indias economy is rising quickly and will surpass Japan eventually because its still an [b]EMERGING [/b]economy. Indonesia with 260+ million people is rising quickly also and if it remain it stability, the order of Asia top GDP in the future will be China, India and Indonesia. Japans population is declining and they are thinking on taking in more migrants to maintain their economy, just like countries in europe are taking in migrants and paying their women.

In Europe(not counting in trancontinental countries such as Russia and Turkey) German has the highest population(80+ million) and also the highest GDP. It is followed by France and U.K which have the next highest populations(both 65+ million), and the next 2 highest GDP. Italy has the 4th highest population(60 + million) and 4 highest GDP, then spain has the 5th highest population and 5 highest GDP.

In South America its the same, Brazil has highest population and highest GDP, followed by Colombia and Argentina whom also follow the next highest GDP after each other. The same in North America. U.S has the highest population and highest GDP. Mexico has the second highest population(120+) and is a country filled with corruption which creates disfunction to the economy but still it has the third largest GDP after Canada(37+ million), closely behind. It will easily surpass Canada if it gets its act together and become stable.

So i hope you see a pattern now, and see that it shouldn't come as a surprise why Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa, all while its politically unstable. Also the reason why China will surpas U.S.A economically it thankly due to its high population which gives it a big advantage. China already work as one unit and they can quickly make economic reforms which in U.S takes time.

The reason Nigeria can be deemned as Africas saviour is because of its big population, it has the ability to become Africas superpower and defend Africa and help it develope. But that is only if it get its act together, along with DRC. These two countries can be Africas salvation. I can't emphasize enough how important population growth is for Africa. If Botswana with its current form of stability had the population of Nigeria it would be a world power military and economically. Low population is one of the reason the French colonies are still being looted by France, in Burkina Faso it was the big young population who went together and overthrew the puppet president but it's much harder in Gabon with its low population. The more people you are the more you will demand control of your resources. In the french colonies its not the africans who control the resources but french companies which is why you don't read about african billionaires from these countries. The french president has been going around spreading propaganda that africans are overpopulating the world because it will be harder for them to continue looting Africa with a bigger population who will demand control of their resources.

A country like Botswana would never be able to defend itself from the west because it lacks any kind of power, it just has high living standard. Poverty is a bigger problem in U.S compared to Luxemburg(600 thousand people), Luxemburg has the highest living standards in the world, but unlike U.S, Luxemburg is not a superpower, whether economically or military. Botswana will suffer economically because of its low population just like many europeans are doing right now, it won't be able to mantain its economy and living standard because it will suffer an aging problem faster than the rest of Africa and it will either need to take in migrants to mantain the GDP and living standard or find another way to higher its population.

A bigger population give rise to a bigger variety of better leaders and a bigger population also has a higher chance to overthrow bad leadership than a smaller one. In China, their revolution 70 years ago was because of the high unemployment(had a population of 500 million people then), but today they have a strong leader which has uplifted them out of poverty and they see how things have changed for the better, going from one of the poorest countries in the world, to become the superpower it is today. Most chinese support its government. Development always comes with good leadership, its not a matter of how big the population is. You can have low population and poor development, high population and high development(Japan(or China)), vice versa.

South Africa is the legacy of apartheid and when the whites took their land the tribes weren't millions and they weren't united, today they have increased their population and are right now fighting together to get back their land because its many of them. In Namibia they are not as vocal because they are a low population. Its much harder for foreigners to come in a country like Nigeria with over 150 million people and control all their resources because the people would ''eventually'' start an uproar, the bigger population you have the more the people are going to demand control of their resources which S.A is demanding right now. The reason Nigeria has one of Africas biggest army is because of its population advantage and it has one of the highest GDP not because it is an economically superpower in Africa, its all due to its big population, because bigger population creates higher GDP since it means more workers. Imagine if Nigeria got its act together politically and lowered it unemployment, it would surpass all European countries economically because it has a population advantage.

Botswana has no power, only high living standard. If the west attacked Africa right now, what power would we have to defend ourselves? Botswanas inpact in helping Africa stopping the war would be nothing compared to a country with lower living standard but a bigger population like Kenya or Tanzania. Use your brains for god sake. Do you people even know what the ''catch up effec'' is? Read about it: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/definition/catch-up-effect
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:12pm On May 27, 2019
Acadavah:

I think Kenya is doing Mark time. There is no benefit of high economy if there is no closing gape between poor and rich people.

The gap is slowly closing, our poverty escape rate stands at 0.5 people per minute with 28% of Kenyan population living in poverty against Tanzania's 38.4%.
A growth in economy means more money is circulating in the country therefore more citizens are able to hold the economic wealth in their hands.
Tanzania is a Least Developed Country LDC while Kenya is a middle income/developing country in the whole of East Africa.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:14pm On May 27, 2019
Yes he is unschooled. He doesn't realize Europe, US, China and India - are all trending to around 2 kids per woman - which is where any country need to get before it become developed. Even Brazil and name them.

African cannot afford to have 6-8 kids per woman like in Nigeria. That will just breed poverty. Nigeria will NEVER develop until it's serious take control of it's population. No country has developed with that many kids be sired.

Most African countries are poor post-independence because of it's population growth. Look at Kenya - from 1963 until the Oil boom/doom - Kenya grew at around 7-10% - and would have become developed country like South Korea - except we were also breeding like rats - so all that growth in economy - disappeared - poverty grew - gov became unable to provide basic services. South Koreas meanwhile growing at about the same rate kept their population in check - meaning their per capita kept increasing -families were able to feed, cloth and educate their kids better - gov services didn't become overstretched - families and companies could save money for investments - and slowly they became rich.

Most Africa countries by 1980s knew the population explosion was biggest threat - Not some Western or Eastern power coming to re-colonize Africa - most of them embarked on serious population control.

To have somebody like Magufool in 2020 argue about having more kids is just very sad.

tylann:


The guy doesn't know china had to adopt population control to stop population explosion
He is busy following magufuli order to breed

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 5:16pm On May 27, 2019
Acadavah:

I think Kenya is doing Mark time. There is no benefit of high economy if there is no closing gape between poor and rich people.

Even a casual Kenyan visitor to Tz will call BS on those unemployment stats! Seeing all the idle youth at every street corner through Tz while ALLEGEDLY our unemployment is 4x worse is BS on a hover board believable by only haters and "yards.
FYI,our REAL UNEMPLOYMENT rate is 7.5%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:16pm On May 27, 2019
tylann:


The guy doesn't know china had to adopt population control to stop population explosion
He is busy following magufuli order to breed

Low IQ fool, thats because they already have a big population.... Did i say we need to procreate 10 billion people? And they have removed the policy because it has started to effect them economically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7jIjmLyWs
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:17pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:
@Yobeezy
@Jonraid
@kikuyu1
@tylann
@rvp2018 (You too)

Low IQ fools use your brains. Africa is the most underpopulated continent in the world, DRC is half the size of Europe, so its Europe which is overpopulated, now imagine if our lands reflected its population? We would have strong economic and militaristic powers in Africa, which is exactly why they the west doesn't want Africas population to grow while at the same time making sure that their population grows by taking in migrants and paying their women to have more kids. Living standard doesn't matter, economic power and militaristic power matters. While Botswana has a high living standar(and rising gdp) it will never be able to come up to the economy of that of a bigger population like Nigeria or to its militaristic power. Botswana differiante from the rest of Africa and its neighbouring countries. Botswana was a protectorate and was not colonized by white people and it found its minerals after independence and is one of few african countries with nationalized minerals. The reason Botswana has maintained it success of high living standard is because foreign governments didn't put its mind to infiltrate it successfully and import revolution, poverty and hunger unlike in many other African countries, and Botswana is a story of good leadership. Look at Lybia, it used to have one of the highest living standard in Africa until the west overthrew Gaddafi, now the country is shattered with war, poverty and hunger. Living standard didn't matter as long as they didn't have the capacity to defend themselves, Lybia has 6 million people.

In every continent the countries with the highest populations are the ones with the biggest GDP and Military. The biggest economy in Asia is China(1.3+ bilion people) followed by Japan(120+ million people), India(1.3+ billion people), and Indias economy is rising quickly and will surpass Japan eventually because its still an EMERGING economy. Indonesia with 260+ million people is rising quickly also and if it remain it stability, the order of Asia top GDP in the future will be China, India and Indonesia. Japans population is declining and they are thinking on taking in more migrants to maintain their economy, just like countries in europe are taking in migrants and paying their women.

In Europe(not counting in trancontinental countries such as Russia and Turkey) German has the highest population(80+ million) and also the highest GDP. It is followed by France and U.K which have the next highest populations(both 65+ million), and the next 2 highest GDP. Italy has the 4th highest population(60 + million) and 4 highest GDP, then spain has the 5th highest population and 5 highest GDP.

In South America its the same, Brazil has highest population and highest GDP, followed by Colombia and Argentina whom also follow the next highest GDP after each other. The same in North America. U.S has the highest population and highest GDP. Mexico has the second highest population(120+) and is a country filled with corruption which creates disfunction to the economy but still it has the third largest GDP after Canada(37+ million), closely behind. It will easily surpass Canada if it gets its act together and become stable.

So i hope you see a pattern now, and see that it shouldn't come as a surprise why Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa, all while its politically unstable. Also the reason why China will surpas U.S.A economically it thankly due to its high population which gives it a big advantage. China already work as one unit and they can quickly make economic reforms which in U.S takes time.

The reason Nigeria can be deemned as Africas saviour is because of its big population, it has the ability to become Africas superpower and defend Africa and help it develope. But that is only if it get its act together, along with DRC. These two countries can be Africas salvation. I can't emphasize enough how important population growth is for Africa. Botswana is almost twice the size of Germany but only has 2 million people while Germany has 82, if Botswana with its current form of stability had the population of Nigeria it would be a world power military and economically. Low population is one of the reason the French colonies are still being looted by France, in Burkina Faso it was the big young population who went together and overthrew the puppet president but it's much harder in Gabon with its low population. The more people you are the more you will demand control of your resources. In the french colonies its not the africans who control the resources but french companies which is why you don't read about african billionaires from these colonies. The french president has been going around spreading propaganda that africans are overpopulating the world because it will be harder for them to continue looting Africa with a bigger population who will demand control of their resources.

A country like Botswana would never be able to defend itself from the west because it lacks any kind of power, it just has high living standard. Poverty is a bigger problem in U.S compared to Luxemburg(600 thousand people), Luxemburg has the highest living standards in the world, but unlike U.S, Luxemburg is not a superpower, whether economically or military. Botswana will suffer economically because of its low population just like many europeans are doing right now, it won't be able to mantain its economy and living standard because it will suffer an aging problem faster than the rest of Africa and it will either need to take in migrants to mantain the GDP and living standard or find another way to higher its population.

A bigger population give rise to a bigger variety of better leaders and a bigger population also has a higher chance to overthrow bad leadership than a smaller one. In China, their revolution 70 years ago was because of the high unemployment(had a population of 500 million people then), but today they have a strong leader which has uplifted them out of poverty and they see how things have changed for the better, going from one of the poorest countries in the world, to become the superpower it is today. Most chinese support its government. Development always comes with good leadership, its not a matter of how big the population is. You can have low population and poor development, high population and high development(Japan(or China)), vice versa.

South Africa is the legacy of apartheid and when the whites took their land the tribes weren't millions and they weren't united, today they have increased their population and are right now fighting together to get back their land because its many of them. In Namibia they are not as vocal because they are a low population. Its much harder for foreigners to come in a country like Nigeria with over 150 million people and control all their resources because the people would ''eventually'' start an uproar, the bigger population you have the more the people are going to demand control of their resources which S.A is demanding right now. The reason Nigeria has one of Africas biggest army is because of its population advantage and it has one of the highest GDP not because it is an economically superpower in Africa, its all due to its big population, because bigger population creates higher GDP since it means more workers. Imagine if Nigeria got its act together politically and lowered it unemployment, it would surpass all European countries economically because it has a population advantage.

Botswana has no power, only high living standard. If the west attacked Africa right now, what power would we have to defend ourselves? Botswanas inpact in helping Africa stopping the war would be nothing compared to a country with lower living standard but a bigger population like Kenya or Tanzania. Use your brains for god sake. Do you people even know what the ''catch up effec'' is? Read about it: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/definition/catch-up-effect

Low IQ is why Africa remains poor, if you remove africans from africa and replace them with any other non africans it will prosper.


Verbal diarrhoea
It is not all about military power and economic
It is about the quality of life of it is citizens
Countries are worried about standard of life of its citizens

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:18pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:
@Yobeezy
@[s]Jonraid
@kikuyu1
@tylann
@rvp2018 (You too)

Low IQ fools use your brains. Africa is the most underpopulated continent in the world, DRC is half the size of Europe, so its Europe which is overpopulated, now imagine if our lands reflected its population? We would have strong economic and militaristic powers in Africa, which is exactly why they the west doesn't want Africas population to grow while at the same time making sure that their population grows by taking in migrants and paying their women to have more kids. Living standard doesn't matter, economic power and militaristic power matters. While Botswana has a high living standar(and rising gdp) it will never be able to come up to the economy of that of a bigger population like Nigeria or to its militaristic power. Botswana differiante from the rest of Africa and its neighbouring countries. Botswana was a protectorate and was not colonized by white people and it found its minerals after independence and is one of few african countries with nationalized minerals. The reason Botswana has maintained it success of high living standard is because foreign governments didn't put its mind to infiltrate it successfully and import revolution, poverty and hunger unlike in many other African countries, and Botswana is a story of good leadership. Look at Lybia, it used to have one of the highest living standard in Africa until the west overthrew Gaddafi, now the country is shattered with war, poverty and hunger. Living standard didn't matter as long as they didn't have the capacity to defend themselves, Lybia has 6 million people.

In every continent the countries with the highest populations are the ones with the biggest GDP and Military. The biggest economy in Asia is China(1.3+ bilion people) followed by Japan(120+ million people), India(1.3+ billion people), and Indias economy is rising quickly and will surpass Japan eventually because its still an EMERGING economy. Indonesia with 260+ million people is rising quickly also and if it remain it stability, the order of Asia top GDP in the future will be China, India and Indonesia. Japans population is declining and they are thinking on taking in more migrants to maintain their economy, just like countries in europe are taking in migrants and paying their women.

In Europe(not counting in trancontinental countries such as Russia and Turkey) German has the highest population(80+ million) and also the highest GDP. It is followed by France and U.K which have the next highest populations(both 65+ million), and the next 2 highest GDP. Italy has the 4th highest population(60 + million) and 4 highest GDP, then spain has the 5th highest population and 5 highest GDP.

In South America its the same, Brazil has highest population and highest GDP, followed by Colombia and Argentina whom also follow the next highest GDP after each other. The same in North America. U.S has the highest population and highest GDP. Mexico has the second highest population(120+) and is a country filled with corruption which creates disfunction to the economy but still it has the third largest GDP after Canada(37+ million), closely behind. It will easily surpass Canada if it gets its act together and become stable.

So i hope you see a pattern now, and see that it shouldn't come as a surprise why Nigeria has the biggest economy in Africa, all while its politically unstable. Also the reason why China will surpas U.S.A economically it thankly due to its high population which gives it a big advantage. China already work as one unit and they can quickly make economic reforms which in U.S takes time.

The reason Nigeria can be deemned as Africas saviour is because of its big population, it has the ability to become Africas superpower and defend Africa and help it develope. But that is only if it get its act together, along with DRC. These two countries can be Africas salvation. I can't emphasize enough how important population growth is for Africa. Botswana is almost twice the size of Germany but only has 2 million people while Germany has 82, if Botswana with its current form of stability had the population of Nigeria it would be a world power military and economically. Low population is one of the reason the French colonies are still being looted by France, in Burkina Faso it was the big young population who went together and overthrew the puppet president but it's much harder in Gabon with its low population. The more people you are the more you will demand control of your resources. In the french colonies its not the africans who control the resources but french companies which is why you don't read about african billionaires from these colonies. The french president has been going around spreading propaganda that africans are overpopulating the world because it will be harder for them to continue looting Africa with a bigger population who will demand control of their resources.

A country like Botswana would never be able to defend itself from the west because it lacks any kind of power, it just has high living standard. Poverty is a bigger problem in U.S compared to Luxemburg(600 thousand people), Luxemburg has the highest living standards in the world, but unlike U.S, Luxemburg is not a superpower, whether economically or military. Botswana will suffer economically because of its low population just like many europeans are doing right now, it won't be able to mantain its economy and living standard because it will suffer an aging problem faster than the rest of Africa and it will either need to take in migrants to mantain the GDP and living standard or find another way to higher its population.

A bigger population give rise to a bigger variety of better leaders and a bigger population also has a higher chance to overthrow bad leadership than a smaller one. In China, their revolution 70 years ago was because of the high unemployment(had a population of 500 million people then), but today they have a strong leader which has uplifted them out of poverty and they see how things have changed for the better, going from one of the poorest countries in the world, to become the superpower it is today. Most chinese support its government. Development always comes with good leadership, its not a matter of how big the population is. You can have low population and poor development, high population and high development(Japan(or China)), vice versa.

South Africa is the legacy of apartheid and when the whites took their land the tribes weren't millions and they weren't united, today they have increased their population and are right now fighting together to get back their land because its many of them. In Namibia they are not as vocal because they are a low population. Its much harder for foreigners to come in a country like Nigeria with over 150 million people and control all their resources because the people would ''eventually'' start an uproar, the bigger population you have the more the people are going to demand control of their resources which S.A is demanding right now. The reason Nigeria has one of Africas biggest army is because of its population advantage and it has one of the highest GDP not because it is an economically superpower in Africa, its all due to its big population, because bigger population creates higher GDP since it means more workers. Imagine if Nigeria got its act together politically and lowered it unemployment, it would surpass all European countries economically because it has a population advantage.

Botswana has no power, only high living standard. If the west attacked Africa right now, what power would we have to defend ourselves? Botswanas inpact in helping Africa stopping the war would be nothing compared to a country with lower living standard but a bigger population like Kenya or Tanzania. Use your brains for god sake. Do you people even know what the ''catch up effec'' is? Read about it: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/definition/catch-up-effect

Low IQ is why Africa remains poor, if you remove africans from africa and replace them with any other non africans it will prosper.
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Kipara ngoto effects, what's your main point from this long trash before you throw insults?
Give us a summary of what you're trying to communicate.

A reminder, I know you're jealous of Kenyans but there's no any single day you'll ever get close to Kenya in the next 5 decades to come.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:19pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
Yes he is unschooled. He doesn't realize Europe, US, China and India - are all trending to around 2 kids per woman - which is where any country need to get before it become developed. Even Brazil and name them.

African cannot afford to have 6-8 kids per woman like in Nigeria. That will just breed poverty. Nigeria will NEVER develop until it's serious take control of it's population. No country has developed with that many kids be sired.

Most African countries are poor post-independence because of it's population growth. Look at Kenya - from 1963 until the Oil boom/doom - Kenya grew at around 7-10% - and would have become developed country like South Korea - except we were also breeding like rats - so all that growth in economy - disappeared - poverty grew - gov became unable to provide basic services.

Most Africa countries by 1980s knew the population explosion was biggest threat - Not some Western or Eastern power coming to re-colonize Africa - most of them embarked on serious population control.

To have somebody like Magufool in 2020 argue about having more kids is just very sad.



Low IQ fool, did you read anything of my long post? Logic isn't something easily achievable with low IQ... The reason Africa is poor is because of low IQ and not of big population, tell that to Japan or emergin economies such as China. Low IQ africans like you are the reason why Lybia 2.0 will happen still thinking living standard matters... Economic and military power matters.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 5:20pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
I think kenya has survived by generally separating business from politics. We have also had a diversified economy however small as it was. It therefore very hard to bring kenya down.It easy to bring down countries that depend on sector or two of the economy - both internally (via a coup) or externally.Generally, Kenya politicians have been devoid of ideologues like in TZ - so whatever has been the schism - kenya always found a way to work with US, USSR, China, UK, Isreals, the Arabs and even the Apartheid regime of South Africa smiley - as long as they were into business - their Alexander Forbes or Old Mutual would be welcomed.

What Magufuli is doing is very foolish. He is opening way too many fronts. You cannot just wake up and slap a company 190B dollars bill!! - and expect the business world to just sit back - and continue business as usual.As long as Magufuli is President of United TZ - he can forget about FDIs and prepare for more capital flight. He is too mercurial for any serious business to put their money down.



The first rule Men learn-chose your battles wisely! Yes,you may have Right on your side but you won't win against Putin, China and The Queen combined.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:22pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:


Low IQ fool, thats because they already have a big population.... Did i say we need to procreate 10 billion people? And they have removed the policy because it has started to effect them economically:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7jIjmLyWs

Can't you have straight discussion without insults angry
China is rich compared to Africa
They have necessary infrastructure to support the huge population
A country like Tanzania having a huge population will only mean poverty nothing else

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:24pm On May 27, 2019
tylann:


Verbal diarrhoea
It is not all about military power and economic
It is about the quality of life of it is citizens
Countries are worried about standard of life of its citizens

@tylann
@Yobeezy

I give up, low the african low IQ will is too prominent for any kind of conversation of values, you cant even read what i'm writing instead spewing your low IQ answeres without even debunking anything of what i wrote about the links between population and economic and militaristic power. Keep thinking that living standard matters and see another Lybia 2.0.

Low IQ is the doom of Africa, and i don't see why i should be joulous of a corrupt tribalistic state such as Kenya, I dont care about kenya, i came in this conversation since some low IQ africans were spreading western propaganda about Magufuli.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:24pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:


Low IQ fool, did you read anything of my long post? Logic isn't something easily achievable with low IQ... The reason Africa is poor is because of low IQ and not of big population, tell that to Japan or emergin economies such as China. Low IQ africans like you are the reason why Lybia 2.0 will happen still thinking living standard matters... Economic and military power matters.

Are you trying to say Africans have low IQ
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:27pm On May 27, 2019
You seem to be obsessed by IQ. IQ grows with gdp. It's no static. The more kids you have - the less food you have to feed your pregnant women - so you end up with low IQ low weight babies feed on cassava & bananas at birth- and after birth - the many kids don't have enough food- and the physical &mental stunting continues.Therefore at micro-economic level - family level - it's important for one to have less and well-spaced kids - to have be able to feed their pregnant women with essential nutrients - and to raise the kids without any stunting for lack of food or useless food like in Tanzania - and slowly the IQ of the country will improve.

Then throw in all the viral and other infections that also affect IQ of babies - and you're starring at Africa disaster - actually part of Nigerian disaster where it's a miracle for kids to see their 5th birdthday.

Progressive countries like kenya - are slowly improving their GDP per capita and IQ - by doing exactly that - it's called the demographic dividend - families with less kids - can feed, educate and clother them better - have more savings and investment after feeding 1-2 kids - to start businesses - that grow into SMES - and SMES into big companies.

Libya was screwed by Gaddafi. If you're a small country - why go around poking nose of powerful nations. Nobody will attack you for nothing - but when you start exporting terror all over - and poking the USA, the UK and name them - then you're courting disaster.

Countries if they focus on what is important - the welfare of it's people - will not have to fight any war. The Swiss have never fought and don't have any army.

Mbakuthegreat:

Low IQ fool, did you read anything of my long post? Logic isn't something easily achievable with low IQ... The reason Africa is poor is because of low IQ and not of big population, tell that to Japan or emergin economies such as China. Low IQ africans like you are the reason why Lybia 2.0 will happen still thinking living standard matters... Economic and military power matters.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:29pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:


@tylann
@Yobeezy

I give up, low the african low IQ will is too prominent for any kind of conversation of values, you cant even read what i'm writing instead spewing your low IQ answeres without even debunking anything of what i wrote about the links between population and economic and militaristic power. Keep thinking that living standard matters and see another Lybia 2.0.

Low IQ is the doom of Africa, and i don't see why i should be joulous of a corrupt tribalistic state such as Kenya, I dont care about kenya, i came in this conversation since some low IQ africans were spreading western propaganda about Magufuli.


Mr low IQ
Most countries are not worried about military power and economic power
Countries are worried about improving life of its citizens not power

Magufuli is torturing opponents and your are saying it is propaganda
Magufuli is denying pregnant school girls education and your are saying its propaganda

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:30pm On May 27, 2019
tylann:

Can't you have straight discussion without insults angry
China is rich compared to Africa
They have necessary infrastructure to support the huge population
A country like Tanzania having a huge population will only mean poverty nothing else

Its not insults, low IQ is the biggest threat to africa and not the the west/foreigners, they have just managed to use the low IQ at their advantage. Again, if you read what i wrote China was as poor as any african countries or even poorer 70 years ago. They had 500 million plus population, more than what Tanzania have and didn't have any infrastructure they do today, they built everything you see today. Shouldn't it be easier for Tanzania with lower population than China had? Your low IQ fails you. According to the World Bank, more than 500 million people were lifted out of extreme poverty as China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 6.5 percent in 2012, do you know how they did that? With high IQ which africans don't have and is clear from this comment section.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:36pm On May 27, 2019
China was as poor as TZ when it had 500M people with so many kids and fewer adults. When China started enforcing the 1-child policy - they started becoming richer. Obviously when you have less kids - it doesn't mean the population doesn't grow - China have added another billion since they enforced 1-child policy - and they've gotten richer. And the reason is obvious - less kids - less mouth to feed - more savings in the banks - and prosperity. Imagine 4 parents (father, mother, grand parents) all focussed on 1 child - Chinese kids are getting the best education money can buy, they are getting huge investments in their names before they turn 18 and will probably afford to buy an apartment before they start working.

If China had not adopted the 1-child policy - they would probably be 3B now - and VERY VERY VERY POOR.

Mbakuthegreat:


Its not insults, low IQ is the biggest threat to africa and not the the west/foreigners, they have just managed to use the low IQ at their advantage. Again, if you read what i wrote China was as poor as any african countries or even poorer 70 years ago. They had 500 million plus population, more than what Tanzania have and didn't have any infrastructure they do today, they built everything you see today. Shouldn't it be easier for Tanzania with lower population than China had? Your low IQ fails you. According to the World Bank, more than 500 million people were lifted out of extreme poverty as China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 6.5 percent in 2012, do you know how they did that? With high IQ which africans don't have and is clear from this comment section.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:36pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:


Its not insults, low IQ is the biggest threat to africa and not the the west/foreigners, they have just managed to use the low IQ at their advantage. Again, if you read what i wrote China was as poor as any african countries or even poorer 70 years ago. They had 500 million plus population, more than what Tanzania have and didn't have any infrastructure they do today, they built everything you see today. Shouldn't it be easier for Tanzania with lower population than China had? Your low IQ fails you. According to the World Bank, more than 500 million people were lifted out of extreme poverty as sad China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 6.5 percent in 2012, do you know how they did that? With high IQ which africans don't have and is clear from this comment section.

Believe me i know about Deng Xiaoping and his reforms in China
And i also think the west fooled you that africans have low IQ

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 5:37pm On May 27, 2019
tylann:
That is why we take loans because we are able to repay them

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/economy/Fitch-Ratings-says-Kenya-able-to-service/3946234-5095040-11piwkaz/index.html
That's why you have debt 52.6% of GDP( est 2017).
Yobeezy:


The gap is slowly closing, our poverty escape rate stands at 0.5 people per minute with 28% of Kenyan population living in poverty against Tanzania's 38.4%.
A growth in economy means more money is circulating in the country therefore more citizens are able to hold the economic wealth in their hands.
Tanzania is a Least Developed Country LDC while Kenya is a middle income/developing country in the whole of East Africa.
Kenya has poverty line of 43.4% while Tanzania 22.8%. Unemployment rate of 40% while Tanzania has 10.3% . My source Indexmundi
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:38pm On May 27, 2019
The biggest reform was 1-child policy. Yes it's a fact that African have low IQ. It will improve with better nutrition and more disease control. Brain development start right when baby is in the womb...which is why in western world...pregnant women...get stipend to buy milk and essentials minerals...so they don't sire retarded kids like majority of kids in Africa.

Africa average IQ is retarded. It's a fact of life. Yes they are smart people - but majority if they were in developed world would be mentally retarded.

tylann:

Believe me i know about Deng Xiaoping and his reforms in China
And i also think the west fooled you that africans have low IQ
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:38pm On May 27, 2019
And you africans with low IQ think that africa can achieve high living standard without a strong military or economic power to protect that high living standard... You don't learn, africans are the only people who don't learn from history while everyone else do, its all due to low IQ. As i keep saying remove black africans from africa and watch it boom, hell even give africa to the people in north africa and they will make it prosper, just as long as they are not black africans. Black africans make africa the dark continent with their low IQ.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:40pm On May 27, 2019
Acadavah:

That's why you have debt 52.6% of GDP( est 2017).
Kenya has poverty line of 43.4% while Tanzania 22.8%. Unemployment rate of 40% while Tanzania has 10.3% . My source Indexmundi

indexmundi ranks Kenya's poverty at 43.4% as for 2012 get an updated information
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:42pm On May 27, 2019
You don't protect what you don't have. You first get there - become a rich nation where citizen enjoy good standards of living - and then you think about protecting the richness. There is nothing Africa that needs to protecting now. Just poverty, diseases and maybe natural resources.

Africa will remain weak until it's developed. Luckly the human conscience will not allow coloniliasm or slavery to last otherwise African nations remain weak against anybody.

Mbakuthegreat:
And you africans with low IQ think that africa can achieve high living standard without a strong military or economic power to protect that high living standard... You don't learn, africans are the only people who don't learn from history while everyone else do, its all due to low IQ. As i keep saying remove black africans from africa and watch it boom, hell even give africa to the people in north africa and they will make it prosper, just as long as they are not black africans. Black africans make africa the dark continent with their low IQ.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:44pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
The biggest reform was 1-child policy. Yes it's a fact that African have low IQ. It will improve with better nutrition.

Again your low IQ is showing. China didn't become richer when they enforced 1 child policy, they become richer when they opened up their market and put in low tax heavens and western companies moved in for cheap labours and they had alot of cheap labour. Your low IQ fails you because China gained more than 800 million more people and they recently removed the 1 child policy because it was affecting their economy badly with an aging population, but with your logic their economy should start declining now when they remove the 1 child policy? So they should have maintained it?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 5:44pm On May 27, 2019
Mbakuthegreat:
And you africans with low IQ think that africa can achieve high living standard without a strong military or economic power to protect that high living standard... You don't learn, africans are the only people who don't learn from history while everyone else do, its all due to low IQ. As i keep saying remove black africans from africa and watch it boom, hell even give africa to the people in north africa and they will make it prosper, just as long as they are not black africans. Black africans make africa the dark continent with their low IQ.

Yes countries like DRC , nigeria , tanzania etc are under performing

Countries like Mauritius, Seychelles , Botswana , Namibia are doing well without strong militaries and high population
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Acadavah: 5:46pm On May 27, 2019
tylann:

indexmundi ranks Kenya's poverty at 43.4% as for 2012 get an updated information

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 5:47pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
Thanks for schooling the illiterate here throwing insults left right and center. Africa IS POOR because WE were always poor. Nearly all Africa countries were equal poor before any europe came and by the time they left - were still very poor. Countries that became better - had to slowly and painstakingly emerge from poverty. They did this mostly by fighting disease, poverty, and ignorance. They did this by sending as many kids to school as possible. By building schools, hospitals and basic infrastructure that was non-existent. They did this by educating Africans on modern agriculture and livestock keeping. Those lucky to get natural resources - embarked on public investment on roads, rails and the works.

And then you've got special case of Nigeria...that seems to be regressing in 2020.

If you want to argue with the Tanzanians, you can argue with them and insult them. But don't you dare try to involve Nigeria in your stupid post because I swear to God I will give you hot hot as a Problemkid. trust me!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:47pm On May 27, 2019
How many nation have opened their market. Africa has opened her market for ages and she is still very poor. The real reform in China was stopping the population explosion. The same with Asian tigers. The rest follows.

Yes population is dynamic. China took drastic action of 1 child - rather than slowly and naturally reducing their population like everyone else. Obviously, they now got a rich man problem - of the declining population - those are nice problems to have - because China now has the money to throw at any problem. They can decide to pay women to get kids now.


Mbakuthegreat:

Again your low IQ is showing. China didn't become richer when they enforced 1 child policy, they become richer when they opened up their market and put in low tax heavens and western companies moved in for cheap labours and they had alot of cheap labour. Your low IQ fails you because China gained more than 800 million more people and they recently removed the 1 child policy because it was affecting their economy badly with an aging population, but with your logic their economy should start declining now when they remove the 1 child policy? So they should have maintained it?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:48pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
The biggest reform was 1-child policy. Yes it's a fact that African have low IQ. It will improve with better nutrition and more disease control. Brain development start right when baby is in the womb...which is why in western world...pregnant women...get stipend to buy milk and essentials minerals...so they don't sire retarded kids like majority of kids in Africa.

Africa average IQ is retarded. It's a fact of life. Yes they are smart people - but majority if they were in developed world would be mentally retarded.


Africas low IQ is in the DNA, your comments and the people here are great example and one only needs to look at Africa, wherever black people are their low IQ fails them. Just look, you aren't even reading what i'm writing, i even linked you a video regarding the one child policy in China with you didn't watch or care to do, low IQ always fails africa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7jIjmLyWs
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:51pm On May 27, 2019
tylann:

Yes countries like DRC , nigeria , tanzania etc are under performing

Countries like Mauritius, Seychelles , Botswana , Namibia are doing well without strong militaries and high population

Those are small countries with small population, they have no kind of power. In Namibia white people control the most and they are still landless because they don't have the population to fight for their resources unlike S.A. Again your low IQ keeps failing you, if high population cause poverty than how come Japan is one of the richest countries in the world with over 100 million people?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:52pm On May 27, 2019
There is nothing Africa at DNA level. It doesn't exist. There is no Africa gene. There is no European gene. If you think skin color (phenotype) is also identified at brain level - go ahead and provide evidence.

You're typically idiot peddling eugenics that was dismissed 100yrs ago. I don't read verbose stupidity - I skim through it.

IQ improves with development - the richer you get - the higher the IQ. 100yrs ago - US had IQ not very dissimilar to Africa now.

Mbakuthegreat:

Africas low IQ is in the DNA, your comments and the people here are great example and one only needs to look at Africa, wherever black people are their low IQ fails them. Just look, you aren't even reading what i'm writing, i even linked you a video regarding the one child policy in China with you didn't watch or care to do, low IQ always fails africa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg7jIjmLyWs

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mbakuthegreat: 5:56pm On May 27, 2019
rvp2018:
How many nation have opened their market. Africa has opened her market for ages and she is still very poor. The real reform in China was stopping the population explosion. The same with Asian tigers. The rest follows.

Yes population is dynamic. China took drastic action of 1 child - rather than slowly and naturally reducing their population like everyone else. Obviously, they now got a rich man problem - of the declining population - those are nice problems to have - because China now has the money to throw at any problem. They can decide to pay women to get kids now.



Again with your low IQ, a bigger population can generate a higher GDP than a smaller one, the one child policy isn't what made China prosper economic reforms did that. China will surpass U.S economically because of its high population which can generate bigger GDP, China is still an emergin economy and has one of the highest economic growth still. Lots of african countries are still politically unstable, the french colonies have remained as poor as during because France still control them and has had the most of the coups in africa and no foreigners invest in those countries except for ivory coast. Costs are now rising in China and lots of companies are moving from China to Africa for cheap labours and its this which will make africa rise, its the ''catch up effect''. Watch this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY8pCRSBd_o

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