musKeeto: Great points. But i think we should preach more on tolerance and seek to have more educated and learned people on the pulpits instead of idiots who claim to have received a CALL from the Lord.... the christian gangster currently leading CAN is an example..

thumbs up. I lyk ur talk

logicboy01: This question goes out to the religious people in Nigeria; What is the argument against atheism in Nigeria? .

Less that one percent of Nigerians are atheists. Is that really a good statistic?


As an atheist, I will put forward my reasons for atheism in Nigeria;


1) Relgion has failed Nigeria; When we look at christianity and islam in Nigeria, they have added to the corruption and poverty in Nigeria, rather than curb the corruption. Also religion has added to human rights abuse in Nigeria.
-Prosperity pastors ripping poor people off
-Religious southern politicians still stealing money.
-Religious northern politicians smuggling under-aged girls for marriage from North Africa.
-Pastors slapping young girls
-Boko Haram and terrorism

Not all religious people are corrupt but the important ones in Nigeria are quite corrupt. I will concede that most religious people have good intentions and not all religious people are bad. There is no guarantee that atheism will make Nigeria perfect. The evidence that we can point to is that the most peaceful countries (Peace index) and the most developed(human development index) are atheistsic or very secular.


2) Atheism is less divisive on deadly issues; Religion can unite people of the same faith but it can be deadly and divisive when it comes to people of different faiths. Nigeria is divided by religion into the north and south. Nigeria has the rare practice of having two sets of national laws with sharia differing from the common law.

Atheists from all backgrounds might not agree on millions of things but at least, they are not divided on a deadly/controversial issue like religion. Furthermore, atheist are more likely to focus on humans before God, gods or scriptures. Secular humanism?


3) Appreciation of our culture; Nigeria is not historically a christian or muslim country. Nigeria was a country of numerous tribal pagan religions. Christianity and Islam, by their nature, are not going to look favourably at keeping relics of paganism in museums and in villages alive, at least for tourism and history lessons for children. For instance, Japanese people keep their culture and history alive by maintaining Shinto shrines for people to see their heritage- Japanese people do not believe in religion (mostly atheists + irreligious) but they keep it for historical and cultural reasons.

While I personally do not believe in paganism, I think that we should keep our shrines and idols for people to see what our forefathers did in their time. This could also be a tourist attraction like the Shinto shrines in Japan





4) The commonwealth argument; The British who brought christianity to Nigeria are not as religious as Nigeria. Studies even show that about 40 percent in the UK are not religious and 20% are atheists. Why is this so? Why is it that the country that brought christianity to Nigeria is rejecting it and they (the UK) are better off than Nigeria? Does God love secular countries or are secular countries just more developed?



I would like to see counter-arguments (Arguments against atheism in Nigeria) or thoughts about the arguments I made. Cheers!

u are a nigerian and u are a supporter of atheism. Dat's one faulty tin with u. U claim christianity and islam are foreign, wat abt atheism? Just say u are a traditionalist and i will knw u are a nigerian with nigerian culture. Do u knw wat atheism entails?

Ah...when the religion section had both Christian and atheist heavyweights.

Cc xxsabrinaxx, lordreed, mjbolt

Cheers01:
Ah...when the religion section had both Christian and atheist heavyweights.

Cc xxsabrinaxx, lordreed, mjbolt

Hmmm, I was still a Christian back then, I doubt I would have chimed in on the topic.

Cheers01:
Ah...when the religion section had both Christian and atheist heavyweights.

Cc xxsabrinaxx, lordreed, mjbolt

LOL. I joined Nairaland as a member this year but i've been roaming the forums as a guest for close to 3 years . I'd have really loved to discuss with the old christian apologists like Kingebukasblog, felixomor, butterflylion, Ishilove & spacetacular.

If any of you chaps want an argument for the last time, i'm game

XxSabrinaxX:

LOL. I joined Nairaland as a member this year but i've been roaming the forums as a guest for close to 3 years . I'd have really loved to discuss with the old christian apologists like Kingebukasblog, felixomor, butterflylion, Ishilove & spacetacular.

If any of you chaps want an argument for the last time, i'm game

So you are familiar with these theists? Do you know that the monikers butterflylion(m), felixomor(felixmoron)(m) and spectacular(f) are controlled by the same person? The same person has the other following monikers: 4evagod, naijadeyhia, bbfever. All male monikers.

His name is Samuel Ekueme. He was discovered, some years ago, to have defrauded a nairalander despite masquerading as a pastor and staunch believer. Arguing with him is like getting Theresa May to deliver brexit. OtemAtum knows him very well.

KingEbukasBlog is a christian "researcher" with studies on why atheism is a mental illness; an irrational decision and why it can be destructive. He is also rooted in the word of God.

Miss those guys.

Martinez: OtemAtum knows him very well.

Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme, the son of Samuel Onyemaechi Ekwueme, the husband of Lucy Ekwueme, the father of Raphael Akachukwu Ekwueme, a native of Umuahia, a thief, a scammer, a pastor.

His acts are all written in the ACTS OF THE 419.

Martinez39:
So you are familiar with these theists? Do you know that the monikers butterflylion(m), felixomor(felixmoron)(m) and spectacular(f) are controlled by the same person? The same person has the other following monikers: 4evagod, naijadeyhia, bbfever. All male monikers.

His name is Samuel Ekueme. He was discovered, some years ago, to have defrauded a nairalander despite masquerading as a pastor and staunch believer. Arguing with him is like getting Theresa May to deliver brexit. OtemAtum knows him very well.

KingEbukasBlog is a christian "researcher" with studies on why atheism is a mental illness; an irrational decision and why it can be destructive. He is also rooted in the word of God.

Miss those guys.

This one is still in pains

Hello, longest times

felixomor:

This one is still in pains

Hello, longest times

Long time no see.

felixomor:

This one is still in pains

Hello, longest times

Felixomor? You are still here?

I thought you were gone with your paddies butterflylion and kingebukasblog

edogho:
u are a nigerian and u are a supporter of atheism. Dat's one faulty tin with u. U claim christianity and islam are foreign, wat abt atheism? Just say u are a traditionalist and i will knw u are a nigerian with nigerian culture. Do u knw wat atheism entails?

It's true it's foreign (atheism). But in a way isn't everyone born atheist.
Religion is what is passed on to us from our family and society.

XxSabrinaxX:

LOL. I joined Nairaland as a member this year but i've been roaming the forums as a guest for close to 3 years . I'd have really loved to discuss with the old christian apologists like Kingebukasblog, felixomor, butterflylion, Ishilove & spacetacular.

If any of you chaps want an argument for the last time, i'm game

Are you sure you want to do that?

KingEbukasBlog:

Are you sure you want to do that?

I'm game if you are

XxSabrinaxX:

I'm game if you are

Open a thread and invite me. Let's dicuss.. Or argue!

KingEbukasBlog:


Are you sure you want to do that?

Brotherly.
He is not.


How are you

felixomor:

Brotherly.
He is not.


How are you

My big bro!

I'm great and you?

Longest time my brother

Religion is just another problem facing humanity. But it's a pity that most people classify Christianity as Religion!
What was brought here by the British is NOT true Christianity! It was a mixture of their politics and Roman's strategy of enslaving the less privilege.
That is why they themselves refrained from it!
On the other hand Christianity is a school of thought that binds people together irrespective of their tribes, culture or traditions.
¤ True Christians MUST not carry weapons for any reason whatsoever, because there is just one band of enemies against the human race 'unseen higher intelligent beings' so killing fellow humans for wrongdoings is like succumbing to the wishes of this unseen beings!
¤ True Christians MUST not think too much of themselves than necessary, because life is meant to be enjoyed when everyone in the neighbourhood are living fine. So it is unchristian lavishly displaying material things that others dearly needed for survival!
¤ True Christians don't think of ruling over other intelligent individuals as in setting standards, because God alone knows what is right and wrong!
¤ True Christians don't think of revenge when they're offended, because they know that nobody is perfect therefore there must be frictions apart from inevitable errors!
¤ True Christians must always run to the aid of others, because that's the only way to prove they know God and really appreciate his wonderful gift 'LIFE'!
¤ True Christians must not build boundaries between themselves and their neighbours, because nobody is self-sufficient!
In fact there are so much to know about TRUE Christianity which totally differs from what those British brought here. Of course they had the book{Bible} but the understanding eludes their intellect because the author purposely intended to get the message across to all nations before giving the right people what is required to understand the Bible 'holy spirit'!
So don't let misinformed churchgoers make you think the book is worthless! There are true Christians around today and you can SEE for yourself all these qualities WITHIN THEIR MIDST, that is all those who have agreed to live by the principles found in the teachings of Jesus {a first century young Jewish teacher from Nazareth}!

KingEbukasBlog:


My big bro!

I'm great and you?

Longest time my brother

Doing good. Thanks
Nice hearing from u again

Maximus69:
Religion is just another problem facing humanity. But it's a pity that most people classify Christianity as Religion!
What was brought here by the British is NOT true Christianity! It was a mixture of their politics and Roman's strategy of enslaving the less privilege.
That is why they themselves refrained from it!
On the other hand Christianity is a school of thought that binds people together irrespective of their tribes, culture or traditions.
¤ True Christians MUST not carry weapons for any reason whatsoever, because there is just one band of enemies against the human race 'unseen higher intelligent beings' so killing fellow humans for wrongdoings is like succumbing to the wishes of this unseen beings!
¤ True Christians MUST not think too much of themselves than necessary, because life is meant to be enjoyed when everyone in the neighbourhood are living fine. So it is unchristian lavishly displaying material things that others dearly needed for survival!
¤ True Christians don't think of ruling over other intelligent individuals as in setting standards, because God alone knows what is right and wrong!
¤ True Christians don't think of revenge when they're offended, because they know that nobody is perfect therefore there must be frictions apart from inevitable errors!
¤ True Christians must always run to the aid of others, because that's the only way to prove they know God and really appreciate his wonderful gift 'LIFE'!
¤ True Christians must not build boundaries between themselves and their neighbours, because nobody is self-sufficient!
In fact there are so much to know about TRUE Christianity which totally differs from what those British brought here. Of course they had the book{Bible} but the understanding eludes their intellect because the author purposely intended to get the message across to all nations before giving the right people what is required to understand the Bible 'holy spirit'!
So don't let misinformed churchgoers make you think the book is worthless! There are true Christians around today and you can SEE for yourself all these qualities WITHIN THEIR MIDST, that is all those who have agreed to live by the principles found in the teachings of Jesus {a first century young Jewish teacher from Nazareth}!

max people seeking christianity should seek true christians, not false jw's like yourself
you talk about things true christians must not do, so on
but here are some things that false jw's do do:

false jw's give false prophecies, one example https://www.nairaland.com/3793815/how-one-witness-jehovahs-witness/82#78967284

false jw's are hypercrites, one example https://www.nairaland.com/3793815/how-one-witness-jehovahs-witness/82#78945861

false jw loves false finger nails but says heaven is not natural, here https://www.nairaland.com/5183878/discussion-doctrine-between-christian-jehovahs/37#78941614

etc.etc.etc. such is the worldly evil of false jw's

OtemAtum:

Samuel Chinedum Ekwueme, the son of Samuel Onyemaechi Ekwueme, the husband of Lucy Ekwueme, the father of Raphael Akachukwu Ekwueme, a native of Umuahia, a thief, a scammer, a pastor.

His acts are all written in the ACTS OF THE 419.

Cc hakeem4
Lordreed.