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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:41pm On May 29, 2019
olujaidi:


Do you mean reinvest as a fresh investment or you reinvest your upfront in the secondary market? If it is the latter, you have compounded.
OK, I compound on my own terms and with my desired amount. And on secondary market and most likely a different rate.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:47pm On May 29, 2019
kam045:


Chairman,
Thanks for your wonderful explanation. However, i need further clarifications. I intend to align my investment objectives inline with your cash projection.
Does it mean that your monthly subscriptions, all have different maturity dates, for them to converge into year calendar end? Thereby enabling you to subscribe for your annually Tbill.

I look forward to your kind response.

I go for secondary markets and take tenors that matured same season then I converge and invest in primary bid. I bid once a year in primary market and severally in secondary market. Like now, I have bills for September and October,, 3, 10, 31,17. So first November auction will be my jackpot and the circle continues.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 2:14am On May 30, 2019
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by alezzy13: 4:50am On May 30, 2019
lancee:
https://punchng.com/2019-budget-fg-may-borrow-more-to-close-n102-8bn-funding-gap/

He [Udoma] said the deficit of N1.92tn would be financed mainly by borrowing N1.6tn, made up of N802.82bn for domestic and N802.82bn for foreign borrowing respectively.

Good new for TBs? cool

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by revelation2013(m): 8:39am On May 30, 2019
If you placed bidding in primary market this week. Today is the day you should expect your interest. Let us know if you have gotten yours and what rate was used.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ositadima1(m): 8:59am On May 30, 2019
Bravedude112:
They will reinvest all your upfront interest of the interests until the last 400 or 500naira which will be credited to your account cool




RealityShot:
lol...

It's kinda fishy sometimes.. I will explain with numbers..

You invest N1000000
You will get N125000 (at 12.5% rate)

Then you asked for reinvest interest,
So you automatically invest the N125000
And you will get N12500+ in your account.


At the end of the year,
You will get N1125000 back from Tbills.

Add the N12500+
And you have total of N1137500

Therefore your true yield is N137500

Which is interest rate of 13.75% (TRUE YEILD)


Happy investing






Barrytone:


Compounding is asking them to reinvest your interest till less than a 100k is left. The process is repeated till you have less than a 100k. I reinvest till it gets to the amount I so desire. Compounding is a one time investment while mine is invested after interest is paid which is likely next day and on secondary market


Who is correct here?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:19am On May 30, 2019
ositadima1:


In NTB context, your capital is invested and the interest is reinvested till you have less than 100k left. Anything less than a 100k is not invested, it's returned to your account.














Who is correct here?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:19am On May 30, 2019
Am just looking at tb vs trucking (oil and gas ) I pick particular interest in one truck(814) coupled for 10.5m in Dec 2018 started work in January...it has generate 4.4 m from January to may 30 after all expense and repairs (net income )that 880k per months while tb would have generate around 120k permonth ...at this rate it will take t.b around 6 years to achieve 100 percent return if rate remain same while Max 2 years to achieve 120 percent in the later...my inquisitivness is a s a result of why the likes of dangote,otedelo other don't just liquidate their asset and dump in t.b and stop work and play Golf ......i suspect this might be the answer....may be some one should have different classes of income generating asset....

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by alfajohn: 10:32am On May 30, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
Am just looking at tb vs trucking (oil and gas ) I pick particular interest in one truck(814) coupled for 10.5m in Dec 2018 started work in January...it has generate 4.4 m from January to may 30 after all expense and repairs (net income )that 880k per months while tb would have generate around 120k permonth ...at this rate it will take t.b around 6 years to achieve 100 percent return if rate remain same while Max 2 years to achieve 120 percent in the later...my inquisitivness is a s a result of why the likes of dangote,otedelo other don't just liquidate their asset and dump in t.b and stop work and play Golf ......i suspect this might be the answer....may be some one should have different classes of income generating asset....

Good analysis but will be interested in having the analysis of your complete fleet. Am sure the law of averages will step in and it won’t be that rosy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:41am On May 30, 2019
alfajohn:

Good analysis but will be interested in having the analysis of your complete fleet. Am sure the law of averages will step in and it won’t be that rosy
the fleet are 18 at various aging levels ,Am particularly monitoring the new one coupled in December 3 of them ..the older one are above 5 years old .those days of start up so income used for livehood ....but now is growth ,profitability and sustainability....

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:43am On May 30, 2019
alfajohn:

Good analysis but will be interested in having the analysis of your complete fleet. Am sure the law of averages will step in and it won’t be that rosy
Nb our fleets don't hustle for job cos we got some contract e.g. to feed a tank farm 800 k litres weekly to be consumed by international flights
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 10:51am On May 30, 2019
Nb am not advocating for investors to go and buy trucks oooh...but to have other income source higher than 12 percent tb rate.... if u have the time to run the bussiness...it can be a combination of salary and tb or bond and salary or rent and tb or biz and tb or stock and tb etc

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kam045: 11:02am On May 30, 2019
Barrytone:


I go for secondary markets and take tenors that matured same season then I converge and invest in primary bid. I bid once a year in primary market and severally in secondary market. Like now, I have bills for September and October,, 3, 10, 31,17. So first November auction will be my jackpot and the circle continues.

Thank you very much. I got the message. Implementation made easy for me. Once again, thanks for your selfless effort.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 11:06am On May 30, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
Nb our fleets don't hustle for job cos we got some contract e.g. to feed a tank farm 800 k litres weekly to be consumed by international flights

U are part of the privileged few. Come to warri and see hundreds of trucks lying fallow.

U have a contract already, so ur case is that of enjoyment. A normal business man in oil and gas can't make those returns on one truck from January to may.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 11:09am On May 30, 2019
zamirikpo:


U are part of the privileged few. Come to warri and see hundreds of trucks lying fallow.

U have a contract already, so ur case is that of enjoyment. A normal business man in oil and gas can't make those returns on one truck from January to may.

very true ,my friend in nnpc mega trucks have not work for 5 months only 2 trips ...

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 11:16am On May 30, 2019
I have rental Salary, salary and TB am looking at this truck business, what are your take on this?
ahiboilandgas:
Nb am not advocating for investors to go and buy trucks oooh...but to have other income source higher than 12 percent tb rate.... if u have the time to run the bussiness...it can be a combination of salary and tb or bond and salary or rent and tb or biz and tb or stock and tb etc
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 11:17am On May 30, 2019
ositadima1:















Who is correct here?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Grupo(m): 11:37am On May 30, 2019
zamirikpo:


U are part of the privileged few. Come to warri and see hundreds of trucks lying fallow.

U have a contract already, so ur case is that of enjoyment. A normal business man in oil and gas can't make those returns on one truck from January to may.


Anybody who is considering to go into trucking should read this.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:42am On May 30, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
Am just looking at tb vs trucking (oil and gas ) I pick particular interest in one truck(814) coupled for 10.5m in Dec 2018 started work in January...it has generate 4.4 m from January to may 30 after all expense and repairs (net income )that 880k per months while tb would have generate around 120k permonth ...at this rate it will take t.b around 6 years to achieve 100 percent return if rate remain same while Max 2 years to achieve 120 percent in the later...my inquisitivness is a s a result of why the likes of dangote,otedelo other don't just liquidate their asset and dump in t.b and stop work and play Golf ......i suspect this might be the answer....may be some one should have different classes of income generating asset....

With the income you are making, you will need 12months to get your capital. Always remember machines have salvage value. Start comparing with tb after you recoup your capital. Meanwhile this gain margin is excessively impressive. I wish everyone planning to join the biz a big luck. I stick to what works for me.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by reservd(m): 12:34pm On May 30, 2019
Who is correct here? [/quote]
They are all saying the same thing
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by glorie1414: 2:33pm On May 30, 2019
Sir, i am not a beggarly person nor a babe trying to toast. I'm a young lady that is so inspired with your post and comments. I want to start from the bottom to up and create a niche for myself and kids. Please can i be your mentee. Thank you in advance.
ahiboilandgas:
If u don't have 35m u can raise it via like minded investor may 4 of u then to register a company with 35m share capital u need like 450k from cac....u can also buy a lincense from a willing seller feel free to ask any question but on this thread I have been getting tones of beggarly massage and babes trying to toast me

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 3:31pm On May 30, 2019
Barrytone:


With the income you are making, you will need 12months to get your capital. Always remember machines have salvage value. Start comparing with tb after you recoup your capital. Meanwhile this gain margin is excessively impressive. I wish everyone planning to join the biz a big luck. I stick to what works for me.
Nb am not advising people to buy trucks or run bdc..am just educating forumites on exploring other source of income higher than 12 percent

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 3:42pm On May 30, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
Nb am not advising people to buy trucks or run bdc..am just educating forumites on exploring other source of income higher than 12 percent

Thanks for all your valuable input, prying to garner more knowledge on bdc, customer base apart from streets hawking, securing steady inflow of currencies,.
Once again, thanks for sharing.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 4:01pm On May 30, 2019
ositadima1:














Who is correct here?
all.
difference is Auto & manual compounding
bank does auto with the "reinvest interest command"
you do manual yourself like Barrytone. For the exact reasons he gave.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 4:08pm On May 30, 2019
Barrytone:


Thanks for all your valuable input, prying to garner more knowledge on bdc, customer base apart from streets hawking, securing steady inflow of currencies,.
Once again, thanks for sharing.
befriend politicians and importer(Chinese and Indians ) and do remittance(transfer) if it clicks hmmm
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by captainhoo: 4:37pm On May 30, 2019
Has anyone been debited by GT bank for yesterday's bidding??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 4:37pm On May 30, 2019
glorie1414:
Sir, i am not a beggarly person nor a babe trying to toast. I'm a young lady that is so inspired with your post and comments. I want to start from the bottom to up and create a niche for myself and kids. Please can i be your mentee. Thank you in advance.
what do u want me to do

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by carbon1224(m): 4:50pm On May 30, 2019
Who has today’s tb rates here
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by revelation2013(m): 5:00pm On May 30, 2019
captainhoo:
Has anyone been debited by GT bank for yesterday's bidding??
Waiting for that too. Bidding is actually today, it is usually on Thursdays.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by lancee(m): 5:17pm On May 30, 2019
Anybody with todays pry Tbills results


Thanks
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by kam045: 5:51pm On May 30, 2019
RealityShot:
all.

difference is Auto & manual compounding

bank does auto with the "reinvest interest command"

you do manual yourself like Barrytone. For the exact reasons he gave.

Please kindly confirm which of the banks does Auto compounding of interest?

Thanks.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ify2016: 7:13pm On May 30, 2019
Gurus in the house should help us the new investors in answering some primary questions asked. You guys are going too far and need to carry us more along.

For instance, people have asked the latest bid on primary TB but no response yet from anyone.
Thanks House!

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