Op you are thinking what am thinking(in Emmanuela's voice)

LouisVanGaal:
They are both Four star generals... Lt. Gen

No sir! Lt.Gen is 3 star general while General(full general) is 4 star.

kingzizzy:


It is not Olonishakin. The Chief of defence staff, a 4 star General, cannot outrank the C in C who is a 5 star General.

Buhari is like a ceremonial head. He controls the armed forces

TonyeBarcanista:

Of a truth the CDS has higher rank and administrative control over COAS, he is NOT really that powerful as he has no control of operational activities of the Army.

The COAS is more powerful and dangerous in any setting than CDS, he is even more influential.

The C-in-C don't joke with COAS.

but COAS reports to directly to the CDS.

smizel:
but COAS reports to directly to the CDS.

Nope!!! All service chiefs report to the C-in-C.

The COAS only have coordination superiority and rank above all of them.

IDEKEALUMONA:


No sir! Lt.Gen is 3 star general while General(full general) is 4 star.

Nigerian Army has not produced a General since the days of Sani Abacha and IBB... the highest has been Lt. General

kingzizzy:
Technically, the highest ranking officer in Nigeria is Buhari. Many Nigerians dont know this but the president of Nigeria or whoever hold the title of 'commander in chief of the armed forces' holds the rank of Field Marshal or 5 star general.

Buhari is a 5 star General while the Chief of defence staff is a 4 star General

You are right.

LouisVanGaal:
Nigerian Army has not produced a General since the days of Sani Abacha and IBB... the highest has been Lt. General

Stop writing what you do not know.

Olonisakin is a full General of the Nigerian Army.

Dem no born Buratai make he cough where Olonisakin dey.

TonyeBarcanista:
Nope!!! All service chiefs report to the C-in-C.

The COAS only have coordination superiority and rank above all of them.

i need to ask you wat is d work of the CDS.

TonyeBarcanista:
Nope!!! All service chiefs report to the C-in-C.

The COAS only have coordination superiority and rank above all of them.

u do not know wat you are talking about. I nid to ask you what is the work of the CDS nd y is it dat any of military officers i.e army, navy nd airforce is always appointed as the CDS.

LouisVanGaal:
Nigerian Army has not produced a General since the days of Sani Abacha and IBB... the highest has been Lt. General

Look at the picture above
Look at the insignia at their shoulders

Full General 1eagle 2 star and a sword
Lt general I eagle 1 star and 1 sword

smizel:
bros, COAS IS NT AS POWERFUL AS THE CDS but due to the war happening in the north makes pple to forget.

The most influential appointment holders in the military are the GOCs, FOCs and AOCs, I call them the most influential because they control more men. Among the three of them, the GOCs are the most powerful, because they have more men. No coup can succeed without at least one GOC. Who controls the GOCs? It's the COAS. The CDS is two ranks ahead of the GOCs, but they don't take instructions from him. They answer only to the COAS, which makes the COAS more powerful. Ask any soldier and he'll tell you exactly what I have said.

PatrickOkunima:
The most influential appointment holders in the military are the GOCs, FOCs and AOCs, I call them the most influential because they control more men. Among the three of them, the GOCs are the most powerful, because they have more men. No coup can succeed without at least one GOC. Who controls the GOCs? It's the COAS. The CDS is two ranks ahead of the GOCs, but they don't take instructions from him. They answer only to the COAS, which makes the COAS more powerful. Ask any soldier and he'll tell you exactly what I have said.

LOL.

Happening around coups are sinister and are not normal. So You are saying the If the CDS gives orders to GOC they wont Obey? I laugh in spanish

I guess you're not familiar with the phrase "Chain of Command."You may not understand the way it works except you're in the system. I am a soldier, retired though.

bigass:


LOL.

Happening around coups are sinister and are not normal. So You are saying the If the CDS gives orders to GOC they wont Obey? I laugh in spanish

PatrickOkunima:
I guess you're not familiar with the phrase "Chain of Command."You may not understand the way it works except you're in the system. I am a soldier, retired though.

i cant argue with someone in the system. i no no b4

Ogonimilitant:
CDS is officer without portfolio. He cant even give order to the service chiefs because they report the CnC. He is just a political figure.

You summed it up. The CDS is a political position and doesn't control the troops, the COAS does! In 1979 Obasanjo appointed Gen. Akinrinade as COAS before handing over to Shagari, few months later he was made the CDS and gen. Wushishi was made the COAS, reason the North was not comfortable with a Yoruba COAS. Hence you could see it was created in the first place to accomdate Akinrinade.

PatrickOkunima:
The most influential appointment holders in the military are the GOCs, FOCs and AOCs, I call them the most influential because they control more men. Among the three of them, the GOCs are the most powerful, because they have more men. No coup can succeed without at least one GOC. Who controls the GOCs? It's the COAS. The CDS is two ranks ahead of the GOCs, but they don't take instructions from him. They answer only to the COAS, which makes the COAS more powerful. Ask any soldier and he'll tell you exactly what I have said.

Do you know the COAS is answerable to d CDS. It is an hierachy in military command nd u cant tell me dat CDS IS NT the most influential. Do u knw wat it takes to become d CDS OF A MILITARY COMMAND.

TonyeBarcanista:
Nope!!! All service chiefs report to the C-in-C.

The COAS only have coordination superiority and rank above all of them.

They dont report to d CNC... Dey report to the CDS.

Hmm

Emempaul:
silent as he maybe if the CDS coughs even the COAS will mellow. burutai is only popular cos of the boko haram insurgency else na one chance be him name

That's true. The fight against boko haram is handled by the army. That's why buratais name is more popular coz he's the chief of army staff. If it was a joint operation between the army navy and airforce let's say book haram were to be in the south south or all those riverine areas then you'd have heard more of the chief of defence staff or chief of naval staff.

kingzizzy:
Technically, the highest ranking officer in Nigeria is Buhari. Many Nigerians dont know this but the president of Nigeria or whoever hold the title of 'commander in chief of the armed forces' holds the rank of Field Marshal or 5 star general.

Buhari is a 5 star General while the Chief of defence staff is a 4 star General

Buhari is a 3 star general, he retired from the army as a major general! Google is your friend!

IGP, COAS and Chief of Air Staff are the three most strategic service positions and they are all occupied by Northerners.

All Service Chiefs report directly to the President and combatant orders flows directly to them from the President. In the USA, combat order goes directly from the President to the Division responsible for the theater.

CDS role is purely administrative and inter-service coordination.

Gen Abayomi Olonishakin is the most senior military officer in Nigeria right now

LouisVanGaal:
Nigerian Army has not produced a General since the days of Sani Abacha and IBB... the highest has been Lt. General

No...don't say what you don't know sir . We always have General as CDS

Oksman:

You summed it up. The CDS is a political position and doesn't control the troops, the COAS does! In 1979 Obasanjo appointed Gen. Akinrinade as COAS before handing over to Shagari, few months later he was made the CDS and gen. Wushishi was made the COAS, reason the North was not comfortable with a Yoruba COAS. Hence you could see it was created in the first place to accomdate Akinrinade.

hahahahaha don’t go there .... if CDS convoy dey pass ... burutai go hide for corner ... infact if him hear say CDS Dey call am. ... e go double up him speed ... omo this no be Military era wey sergeant Rogers go Dey slap Gen Diya....Obj has demistfyed all that in military hierarchy, insurbodination is as big as a crime of treason in the military ..in fact any thing burtai wan tell Buhari .. he dare not ... i say dare NOT go to Buhari direct without briefing the CDS ...now your Oga for army na your Oga ooo ... don’t mess with him .kon be say the CDS is an army man like am ...no be say him come from another arm of military .

i love this thread. A lot of argument.

Lalasticlala come n move it to FP so that more military personnel can contribute

jk200:
i love this thread. A lot of argument.

Lalasticlala come n move it to FP so that more military personnel can contribute

Seconded. Really enjoying the matured arguments and infos.

ShobayoEmma:
Ofcourse it is the Chief of Defence staff but because the marginalization is real, technically now makes Buratai to be the ....

You see how you have exposed your ignorance to the general public.

ChristianNorth:
IGP, COAS and Chief of Air Staff are the three most strategic service positions and they are all occupied by Northerners.

All Service Chiefs report directly to the President and combatant orders flows directly to them from the President. In the USA, combat order goes directly from the President to the Division responsible for the theater.

CDS role is purely administrative and inter-service coordination.

Another ignorant has come

PatrickOkunima:
The CDS is superior to the COAS, But the COAS is more powerful. A lot of people will dispute this, but it's the plain truth.

It's amazing dome people don't really understand that the Chief of Defense Staff is just a ceremonial head. Chief of Army Staff is definitely more powerful than CDS.