Problemkid1:
Mr Man. You don't have stable electricity in your country. Nigerians who lives in your country are saying there's no stable electricity in your country. Stop decieving yourself boy

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tylann:

Some counties in Kenya are multiethnic
Stop looking at nyanza alone
Look at the whole of kenya

Ethnic federalism Will create more problems than it will solve

Just give any African country that ethnic federalism has worked

stop looking at the minor tribes, they have never been the problem, the problem with kenya are the five major tribes. they can barely tolerate each other. kikuyu, kalenjin, luyhia, luo, kamba. all these tribe have exclusive counties, stop looking at the other minor tribes they can be accomodated by the major tribes that they are close with culturally and politically, for instance the GEMA nation

cossano:
stop looking at the minor tribes, they have never been the problem, the problem with kenya are the five major tribes. they can barely tolerate each other. kikuyu, kalenjin, luyhia, luo, kamba. all these tribe have exclusive counties, stop looking at the other minor tribes they can be accomodated by the major tribes that they are close with culturally and politically, for instance the GEMA nation

What a tribalist retard. Ethnic federalism will never be accepted by Kenyans. I am still looking for the Azam energy drink in Kisii. Maybe a shot of that will clear my mind and I can understand your points better without bias.

tylann:


Ethnic federalism destroyed Yugoslavia

Look at Ethiopia and Nigeria who are practising ethnic federalism are they any better than Kenya

ask a Nigerian an honest question, has federalism help in sharing of the national cake equitable? for instance, in Nigeria, the richest region is not the ones which has produced the highest number of presidents, the north has had around 40 years of presidency in Nigeria yet they are the poorest! in kenya, kikuyu/kalenjin has had 56 years of power in kenya, and you know the result, skewed resource allocation, their tribesmen dominate the civil service at all level despite not being the best educated, is this how you want us to move forward?

Yobeezy:
Cossano I asked you a question in abagusii language and till now you can't respond, am waiting

We will be waiting for a long time. Until hell freezes over. Until pigs fly. Until a Tanzanian grows some balls to be honest. We will be waiting for a long time people of the world.

Jonraid:
Where have you been?

MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS

TayserMahri:

Greetings in the name of the most high Jah!

Hey,

cossano:
ask a Nigerian an honest question, has federalism help in sharing of the national cake equitable? for instance, in Nigeria, the richest region is not the ones which has produced the highest number of presidents, the north has had around 40 years of presidency in Nigeria yet they are the poorest! in kenya, kikuyu/kalenjin has had 56 years of power in kenya, and you know the result, skewed resource allocation, their tribesmen dominate the civil service at all level despite not being the best educated, is this how you want us to move forward?

I am not from any of those tribes but which tribe do you suggest are the most educated? I want to hear this.

gallivant:


What a tribalist retard. Ethnic federalism will never be accepted by Kenyans. I am still looking for the Azam energy drink in Kisii. Maybe a shot of that will clear my mind and I can understand your points better without bias.

then why did kenyans propose the formation of 14 states under the BOMAS draft largely based on tribal lines? do you know that that was the most inclusive constitution making process on earth? only to be torpedoed by the criminal state!

spendoon:
guys forget about this Kenyans it baffles me that no one has noticed that the Kenyans are just showing pictures of their small cbd repeatedly and if you guys have noticed it is very small and all the skyscrapers are few located their alone because if u look very well at their images there is nothing far away (note the photos are super graphically edited to make it look good)

Yeah cossano have lectured us on that , plus I have watched the undiluted nairobi on YouTube even stevoh as posted video of nairobi that was used in an hollywood movie and trust me I screenshoted the ugly undiluted nairobi which looks so slummish. Infact stevoh boasted about it which means it their highbrow area

cossano:
stop looking at the minor tribes, they have never been the problem, the problem with kenya are the five major tribes. they can barely tolerate each other. kikuyu, kalenjin, luyhia, luo, kamba. all these tribe have exclusive counties, stop looking at the other minor tribes they can be accomodated by the major tribes that they are close with culturally and politically, for instance the GEMA nation

That is why iam telling you if you give the big 5 tribes ethnic federalism you will only worsen the situation
What do you mean they cant tolerate each other
My mother is a kikuyu and my father was a luhya and they tolerated each other that is why tylann is here
Those big 5 tribes intermarry , trade ,live together etc
Kenya needs ethnic cohesion not division in the name of ethnic federalism

cossano:
ask a Nigerian an honest question, has federalism help in sharing of the national cake equitable? for instance, in Nigeria, the richest region is not the ones which has produced the highest number of presidents, the north has had around 40 years of presidency in Nigeria yet they are the poorest! in kenya, kikuyu/kalenjin has had 56 years of power in kenya, and you know the result, skewed resource allocation, their tribesmen dominate the civil service at all level despite not being the best educated, is this how you want us to move forward?

Have you heard about niger delta avengers
Or the Biafra war

Northern Nigerian has produced leaders who have enriched themselves the likes of sani abacha , Ibrahim babangida etc
And the current one who is busy fasting in Saudi Arabia
They accomplished absolutely nothing


Kenya is tribalistic but do not compare us with nigeria , Nigeria is a failure

tylann:

Have you heard about niger delta avengers
Or the Biafra war

Northern Nigerian has produced leaders who have enriched themselves the likes of sani abacha , Ibrahim babangida etc
And the current one who is busy fasting in Saudi Arabia
They accomplished absolutely nothing


Kenya is tribalistic but do not compare us with nigeria , Nigeria is a failure

the biafra war didn't start as an ethnic crisis but a coup to remove the ruling, according to d coupist "highly corrupt" leaders, the coup failed n led to d Biafra war.

Niger delta avengers feel they're cheated cos their region has oil n FG gives them 13% derivation which they feel it's low.

I dont know which is worse between nigeria n kenya in terms of tribalism.

spendoon:
Guys please let be serious now this debt trap by China Africans are falling into is really disturbing because when the problems comes knocking at the door na wahala b dat oooooo because as they say that would be morden day slavery especially Kenya.

They have no future only neocolonialism. I wonder why we are still having this conversation

tylann:
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Then why do Nigerians struggling for Kenyan visas some live ten per room here
Extending their visa stays here ..
Do you want tylann to mention all nigerian problems !??
You should be worried about dangote trucks

I don't care pls mention and I would gladly return the favour.
And what about dangote

tylann:


Kenya has more skyscrapers than Nigeria
So what are you talking about
And most of Nairobi skyscrapers are not even in the cbd

Nonsense. Who told you that you have more skyscrappers or are you day dreaming or should I say evening dreaming

theenchanter:
the biafra war didn't start as an ethnic crisis but a coup to remove the ruling, according to d coupist "highly corrupt" leaders, the coup failed n led to d Biafra war.

Niger delta avengers feel they're cheated cos their region has oil n FG gives them 13% derivation which they feel it's low.

I dont know which is worse between nigeria n kenya in terms of tribalism.

Has federalism worked in Nigeria and will it work in kenya ??

tylann:


Spares us your stupidity
Buhari is busy borrowing China money to pay civil servants salaries

Shut up he borrowed to pay last year not this year.
Our debt to gdp is just 18% while yours is about 80%.
Obaderemi pls provide us post where their civil servants have not been paid

samorobo:


Nonsense. Who told you that you have more skyscrappers or are you day dreaming or should I say evening dreaming

We have done before
Do you want us to do it again

Tylann is ready

Do you remember the ministry of communication tower

Jonraid:
These houses are ugly! Grey structures all over! No greenery!

You mean deep forest with wild animal that can take your life in a minute

tylann:


Which situation are you helping have you heard kenya is not able to pay its debts ??

Yes

samorobo:


Shut up he borrowed to pay last year not this year.
Our debt to gdp is just 18% while yours is about 80%.
Obaderemi pls provide us post where their civil servants have not been paid

That is what i was talking about
Kenya has never borrowed to pay salaries
Kenya borrows to build infrastructure

samorobo:


Yes

Where show me

spendoon:

infrastructure index-yours wasn't built by Kenyans and by loan which you will pay a price of maybe by 2040 while Nigeria's was about 90 per built by Nigerians

They will.pay with their life, their new colonial master will make sure of this.
Cossano pls run away if you can even if it is Tanzania

tylann:


Who are building Lagos ibadan railway line ??
Kenya has no resources that china can acquire

We pay them you know.
China is not stupid to continue lending you money when it know it won't gain anything from you since you always default with payment.
They will first cease all the infastructures the have put utilise it with your work force and boost their economy back home, while you keep working for them with nothing to show for but abject poverty.
That way you will be paying your debt in what Is known as a modern day slavery

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
if power drops by 1500 megawatts was instantly that is a shocker especially when you are generating under 3000 megawatts

Stupid talk we don't generate 3,000mw

How is Nigeria debt servicing like...debt to tax....your tax to gdp is the worse in the world...I think 6%...while Kenya averages 18%.

samorobo:


Shut up he borrowed to pay last year not this year.
Our debt to gdp is just 18% while yours is about 80%.
Obaderemi pls provide us post where their civil servants have not been paid

tylann:

Has federalism worked in Nigeria and will it work in kenya ??

federalism is working in nigeria, i dont know Kenya's formation to ascertain it's workability. All power are not yet devolved to d nigerian states, but the necessary ones are devolved.. police has just been approved to be devolved to states. Education, health, water resources, transport within d border of states are among d devolved power.... with complement from d FG.

Nigeria has 3 tiers of gov and Federalism has nothing to do with ethnicity.

The formation of a nation takes centuries. Kenya right now is essentially a state and has long way to get to a nation. The tribes are more like Nations. Accepting tribal nations and going for federalism may permanently endanger nation-building (kenya) and yet denying it will also lead to conflicts and grievances. The middle ground is devolution. The counties we have work well....we just need to increase funding and functions. Federalism is combination of states to form a nation. That might be a slippery slope because counties will basically have nearly all the power of nation (own police, judiciary, name it) including the power to secede like Ethiopia.

I think more devolution along the current counties is all we need. Obviously this ought not be rushed. We need to give it another generation (15-20yrs) - counties are struggling with health - we cannot pad more function before building capacity.

I think attempt to change the constitution this soon is disingenuous and ought to be rejected. We just got new constitution in 2010. That is just about 9yrs!

cossano:
then why did kenyans propose the formation of 14 states under the BOMAS draft largely based on tribal lines? do you know that that was the most inclusive constitution making process on earth? only to be torpedoed by the criminal state!

theenchanter:
the biafra war didn't start as an ethnic crisis but a coup to remove the ruling, according to d coupist "highly corrupt" leaders, the coup failed n led to d Biafra war.

Niger delta avengers feel they're cheated cos their region has oil n FG gives them 13% derivation which they feel it's low.

I dont know which is worse between nigeria n kenya in terms of tribalism.

Kenya is the worse. Kenya is a useless country. KaziKazi has exposed them already Na, you don't need to ask.

samorobo:


I don't care pls mention and I would gladly return the favour.
And what about dangote

Please ask him to show us where buhari borrowed money to pay civil servant salaries

samorobo:


Yeah cossano have lectured us on that , plus I have watched the undiluted nairobi on YouTube even stevoh as posted video of nairobi that was used in an hollywood movie and trust me I screenshoted the ugly undiluted nairobi which looks so slummish. Infact stevoh boasted about it which means it their highbrow area

Do you want to see more highbrow areas? Just say so.