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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:17am On Jun 06, 2019
You are too dumb and slow to even benefit from whatever you've been given!
Kazikazi:
Very good analysis. I think its better for Kenyans to stop mentioning the word GDP,they have no room to grow further due to high debts.While resource rich Tanzania is just starting to unearth her massive minerals

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 12:03pm On Jun 06, 2019
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:23pm On Jun 06, 2019
The meth effect can only get stronger!
cossano:
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 12:49pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA
By the time Ethiopia liberalises its economy, it's over for Kenya. What Kenya can do is to concentrate on things that others around it can not make such as electronics and expensive fashion stuff. With the sophistication of the Kenyan economy and supposedly good power supply and infrastructure, by now Kenya should be ruling Africa in the manufacture of such high end goods.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:02pm On Jun 06, 2019
Not really. Let me remind you about Nairobi again.

Problemkid1:
But it's better than that shitthol city you called nairobi. Nairobi is a complete slum. A concrete shitthol angry

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:08pm On Jun 06, 2019
You're writting nonsense as usual.

Nigeria economy - is not even 300B - if you need to see 270B economy - look at Algeria - both produce about the same size of oil per day and Algeria has lot more gas - and obviously Algeria has lot more manufacturing. Nigeria GDP cooked. Right from agriculture - they have no data to back their agricultural activities - I mean the quantities of yams or sorghum or rice they claim to produce. They seem to just do kamikaze surveys and extrapolate national figures. When their own agricluture minister was asked about their rice production figures - he quoted IndexiMulli smiley

Ethiopia has not overtaken gdp in nominal gdp - maybe in PPP - and there is no projection it will overtake Kenya anytime soon. Ethiopia obviously has some promise if they open their economy - but they also face many serious ethnic risks - debt risks - and etc. Ethiopia is progressive nation and I hope it continues it reforms.

Kenya is on another level....has invested in human capital (education), is about to reap the benefits of demographic dividend, has well diversified economy and only way is up.

cossano:
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:14pm On Jun 06, 2019
I think you're confusing Kenya with South Africa. South Africa need to do stuff like Electronics and expensive fashion stuff. Kenya is not yet there. Kenya still have huge infrastructure deficit - bridging that deficit alone should see the economy double in less than 10yrs. Yes kenya has done well in energy sector from a very low base of 12-15% electrification - we've gone to 75%. Kenya excel in Finance & intermediation - and now with mobile money & fintech - thinks are looking up for that sector. There are nearly 250K mobile money agents - and another 60K - banking agents. Kenya also excel in ICT sector - competing with South Africa and Nigeria in Africa.Kenya agriculture despite the limited land size - just scratched the services - If kenya were to improve the value chains - as is - it could easily double it's agricultural production. Social sector is really looking up and so is the real estate & construction sector. The travel & tourism industry is looking up again - and if we sustain the growth - we could get to South Africa's 10M visitors in a decade.

Where kenya continues to struggle is going manufacturing- because we have some highest electricity cost, taxes and labour cost.

obaaderemi:
By the time Ethiopia liberalises its economy, it's over for Kenya. What Kenya can do is to concentrate on things that others around it can not make such as electronics and expensive fashion stuff. With the sophistication of the Kenyan economy and supposedly good power supply and infrastructure, by now Kenya should be ruling Africa in the manufacture of such high end goods.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:21pm On Jun 06, 2019
rvp2018:
This is mid 2019 - Kenya economy now - is around 95B - by end year it will be 100B - WB projects 100.1B and IMF around 99B. Normally they are few points off the mark.

As for Nigeria overcooked gdp - and dreams of dangote, centerary & big plans of the future - let us know when that happen.

What we know from 1st Q - even with cooking - Nigeria GDP is not out of the woods.



Hahahaha I am so happy that I have gotten under your skin and knock you will off that stupid dream.
Firstly your gdp as of December 2018 which marked the end of last year is just a mere $79bn and by now should have crawled up to $82bn not that additional $13bn you are dreaming off.

Once again I am a nigeria and I can post whatever I like if I so deem it fit. If you don't like the Dangote refinery ,centenary city amongst all other amazing jealous worthy project that we are working on, then do your self a favour by logging off and never come back here -hence be prepared to always enjoy first hand statement from OPEC about dangote marvellous project .
It not as if I have ever disturbed you from posting those white financed skyscrapper project anyway.
So go and die if you can't handle these progressive shiit

And for the records ethopia is this close to ruling that region your country emanates from
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:25pm On Jun 06, 2019
rvp2018:
Underwhelming. Looks crappy as always.

Kibera forest doh

The video barely showed v.I, I mean ozumba madiwe avenue was missing along side water corporate drive axis and you are crying.what if it had covered cms,marina, lekki,ikoyi , let me guess by them you would go extinct grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cossano(m): 1:25pm On Jun 06, 2019
obaaderemi:
By the time Ethiopia liberalises its economy, it's over for Kenya. What Kenya can do is to concentrate on things that others around it can not make such as electronics and expensive fashion stuff. With the sophistication of the Kenyan economy and supposedly good power supply and infrastructure, by now Kenya should be ruling Africa in the manufacture of such high end goods.
thats true, Kenya has a sophisticated economy, but on infrastructure, i think Ethiopia is leading Kenya on these race, power in Kenya is very expensive, its the most expensive in the region thereby stifling industrialization, Ethiopia will soon unveil the grand Renaissance dam further strengthening their position as the leading power producer in the region, again china is shifting most its labor intensive industry to Ethiopia, the entire Africa will soon buy stuff from china only to be shipped from Ethiopia, Ethiopia has a brighter future than all the east African economies

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:31pm On Jun 06, 2019
rvp2018:
They actually never - last year - they were projected to hit I think 90B - then they devalued their currency birr by I think 17% -and went down to 85B - and Kenya ended the year with with 89B dollar gdp.

Tanzania the dullards are not even at 60B.


Take a deep breath and read what you wrote, on the contrary I will help you economic retarded fellow.
Going by what you wrote ethopia ended 2018 as a $85bn economy while you on the other hand ended it as an $89bn which is actually a lie going by reputable source that know how to carry out quantitative analysis on a country economy..
Common sense should tell you that you have barely nine months to be dethroned in that region owing to the fact that ethopia growth is far ahead of your current growth rate and you are just a few billion dollar ahead which is no doubt waiting to be surpassed
All hail the new king of east africa ETHOPIA grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:35pm On Jun 06, 2019
Not to mention the fact that Ethiopia has twice the size as population than Kenya and it's landlocked!
rvp2018:
You're writting nonsense as usual.

Nigeria economy - is not even 300B - if you need to see 270B economy - look at Algeria - both produce about the same size of oil per day and Algeria has lot more gas - and obviously Algeria has lot more manufacturing. Nigeria GDP cooked. Right from agriculture - they have no data to back their agricultural activities - I mean the quantities of yams or sorghum or rice they claim to produce. They seem to just do kamikaze surveys and extrapolate national figures. When their own agricluture minister was asked about their rice production figures - he quoted IndexiMulli smiley

Ethiopia has not overtaken gdp in nominal gdp - maybe in PPP - and there is no projection it will overtake Kenya anytime soon. Ethiopia obviously has some promise if they open their economy - but they also face many serious ethnic risks - debt risks - and etc. Ethiopia is progressive nation and I hope it continues it reforms.

Kenya is on another level....has invested in human capital (education), is about to reap the benefits of demographic dividend, has well diversified economy and only way is up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:37pm On Jun 06, 2019
Kazikazi:
Very good analysis. I think its better for Kenyans to stop mentioning the word GDP,they have no room to grow further due to high debts.While resource rich Tanzania is just starting to unearth her massive minerals

They never learn so sad.
Their hate for resources blessed nation is appalling.
Did you know that they were practically mocking SA by posting that recession write up even though there was no point posting it here since they are no SA citizen available here. It's their aim to see resources rich countries fall while they rise owing to the fact that they have been left to lurk in the dark for so long.
Once ethopia overtakes them pls try hard so you can also toss them aside .

The illusory largest economy has gotten into their head to the point they forget their ever rising debt

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:48pm On Jun 06, 2019
samorobo:

Lol I have scattered these one brain ti the point that he is now consoling himself with false informations grin grin grin

Nonsense you are showing me gdp PPP from Wikipedia source only God know where they fed themselves that from. Boy you been caught. I am glad that I have shown you your true gdp not that one that you have been dreaming of since.

So jealous of resources blessed country.
Once again enjoy grin grin


And you want tylann to believe your tradeconomics source smiley
Anyway who are you IMF and world bank say Kenya's economy is 98b now and before the year ends it will hit 100 b

Tradeconomics say nigeria will hit 690b cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:49pm On Jun 06, 2019
rvp20182:
Resources don't grow the economy...of all the factors of production labour and entrepreneurship are the most important.Western and Asia nations that are part of developed world are mostly poor in resources.Kenya has Africa best human capital which explains why we have Africa largest non mineral economy.You can have all the minerals but when prices crushes...your economy crushes too.

Save us your long endless cry , it's doesn't hold water..
Just because you are poor in resource doesnt mean you should start looking for partners . End your jealous projections and face reality.
Westerners and Asian had and still has resources, those Europeans that were unlucky made sure they stole from africa and all other countries they colonised both in Asia and south America to build their country.

Singapore is eve more resourcesless than you guys but ended up great let's not forget that they gained their independence in 1965 with absolutely nothing to show for it .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:54pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
thats true, Kenya has a sophisticated economy, but on infrastructure, i think Ethiopia is leading Kenya on these race, power in Kenya is very expensive, its the most expensive in the region thereby stifling industrialization, Ethiopia will soon unveil the grand Renaissance dam further strengthening their position as the leading power producer in the region, again china is shifting most its labor intensive industry to Ethiopia, the entire Africa will soon buy stuff from china only to be shipped from Ethiopia, Ethiopia has a brighter future than all the east African economies
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 1:54pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
thats true, Kenya has a sophisticated economy, but on infrastructure, i think Ethiopia is leading Kenya on these race, power in Kenya is very expensive, its the most expensive in the region thereby stifling industrialization, Ethiopia will soon unveil the grand Renaissance dam further strengthening their position as the leading power producer in the region, again china is shifting most its labor intensive industry to Ethiopia, the entire Africa will soon buy stuff from china only to be shipped from Ethiopia, Ethiopia has a brighter future than all the east African economies
Wow!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:54pm On Jun 06, 2019
Acadavah:
who said this and change it to 70b in 2016.


You are confusing tylann with someone else
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 1:57pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA


Hahaha I am not surprised anyway. When you have a country sponsoring it's sgr (I mean the ones that would connect the whole of nigeria),numerous deepseaport, airports,dry inland ports,roads,industrial cities,free trade zones,an of course numerous amazing cities makes me wonder where we get all that money from, I mean for a $400+bn economy.
Kenya can barely construct a 10km road without requestion for loan from their soon to be colonial MASTERS CHINA .

Ethopia is on it way to success as you stated and I am so glad. I read about their economic progress and I am gladen .they are the second most populated country on the country on the continent, they deserve to be among the top three largest economies not struggling with the great indebted,sion to be neocolonized kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:59pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
Nigerian economy is one of the largest informal economies in the world alongside Thailand, current credible sources put Nigerians nominal GDP at about 500b dollars, but in actual sense Nigerian economy is at 1trillion dollars. i don't know what people gain by denying the obvious, plus Kenya will never surpass the Ethiopian economy again, Ethiopia receives the largest share of FDI in the entire east African region coupled with their large population and consistent growth rates year in year out. remember Ethiopia doesn't suffer fluctuations in economic growth due to elections such as Kenya,and with the recent arrival of their reform minded prime minister in the the name of Abiy Ahmed and the normalization of ties with Eritrea, only sky is the limit for Ethiopia. Kenya from now onwards we will play second fiddle to Ethiopia until infinity due to the bad economic decisions from our economic gangsters masquerading as leaders. it suffice to say HAIL the new king in east Africa. ETHIOPIA


That is why i like you
Always arguing without facts

For your information Kenya is the largest economy in east and central Africa
Ethiopia had overtaken us around 2015-16
Come 2018 we overtook them again
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:00pm On Jun 06, 2019
tylann:

And you want tylann to believe your tradeconomics source smiley
Anyway who are you IMF and world bank say Kenya's economy is 98b now and before the year ends it will hit 100 b

Tradeconomics say nigeria will hit 690b cool

I don't care what you believe, it's not as if I am meant to force the truth on you anyway. So long as I place the truth in the deepest part of your sub conscious mind I am okay.
Tradingeconomics acquires imf economic model.
Provide me a conversion of sh10trn in dollar so I can certify your claim. That your assignment
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:01pm On Jun 06, 2019
obaaderemi:
By the time Ethiopia liberalises its economy, it's over for Kenya. What Kenya can do is to concentrate on things that others around it can not make such as electronics and expensive fashion stuff. With the sophistication of the Kenyan economy and supposedly good power supply and infrastructure, by now Kenya should be ruling Africa in the manufacture of such high end goods.

For once obaaderemi has make sense
Kenya's manufacturing sector is a joke
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:01pm On Jun 06, 2019
Jonraid:
Not to mention the fact that Ethiopia has twice the size as population than Kenya and it's landlocked!
Ethiopia has a SGR that links it with the port of Djibouti. Ethiopia is poised for great things.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:03pm On Jun 06, 2019
samorobo:


Save us your long endless cry , it's doesn't hold water..
Just because you are poor in resource doesnt mean you should start looking for partners . End your jealous projections and face reality.
Westerners and Asian had and still has resources, those Europeans that were unlucky made sure they stole from africa and all other countries they colonised both in Asia and south America to build their country.

Singapore is eve more resourcesless than you guys but ended up great let's not forget that they gained their independence in 1965 with absolutely nothing to show for it .


Kenya is trying
Growing economy with tea and flowers is not joke
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 2:05pm On Jun 06, 2019
samorobo:



Hahaha I am not surprised anyway. When you have a country sponsoring it's sgr (I mean the ones that would connect the whole of nigeria),numerous deepseaport, airports,dry inland ports,roads,industrial cities,free trade zones,an of course numerous amazing cities makes me wonder where we get all that money from, I mean for a $400+bn economy.
Kenya can barely construct a 10km road without requestion for loan from their soon to be colonial MASTERS CHINA .

Ethopia is on it way to success as you stated and I am so glad. I read about their economic progress and I am gladen .they are the second most populated country on the country on the continent, they deserve to be among the top three largest economies not struggling with the great indebted,sion to be neocolonized kenya.
Nigeria budget is about the same with Kenya.You cannot finance anything to completion.You just start projects you'll never finish.Start paying salaries and pensions regularly and on time first.Then have money to buy office toiletries and such basic recurrent expenditure.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:06pm On Jun 06, 2019
samorobo:


I don't care what you believe, it's not as if I am meant to force the truth on you anyway. So long as I place the truth in the deepest part of your sub conscious mind I am okay.
Tradingeconomics acquires imf economic model.
Provide me a conversion of sh10trn in dollar so I can certify your claim. That your assignment

So why are you crying anyway

If you convert kshs 10trn to dollars it is 100b
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:06pm On Jun 06, 2019
tylann:


For once obaaderemi has make sense
Kenya's manufacturing sector is a joke


Now you are also making sense.
Anyway have you seen were acavada posted where you wrote your gdp to be $50 in 2016 or should I just post it.
Liar

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:07pm On Jun 06, 2019
tylann:


For once obaaderemi has make sense
Kenya's manufacturing sector is a joke
I always make sense.It may just not resonate with you. If Kenya's economy is as sophisticated as you claim, then what stops it in dominating Africa in the manufacture of high end goods?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:08pm On Jun 06, 2019
tylann:


Kenya is trying
Growing economy with tea and flowers is not joke

If you are trying why deride the effort of your fellow african country that faces the same corrupt fate as you guys.
Where was these your "trying" when Singapore was also trying
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:08pm On Jun 06, 2019
samorobo:



Now you are also making sense.
Anyway have you seen were acavada posted where you wrote your gdp to be $50 in 2016 or should I just post it.
Liar


You and the avocado guy are confusing tylann with someone else

How is nigeria manufacturing sector
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 2:10pm On Jun 06, 2019
rvp20182:
Nigeria budget is about the same with Kenya.You cannot finance anything to completion.You just start projects you'll never finish.Start paying salaries and pensions regularly and on time first.Then have money to buy office toiletries and such basic recurrent expenditure.

Have you heard of a model they call PPP. Those ports be it airport,deepseaport port,dry inland port, roads and even sgrlet not forget our city projects, they are all built through that model called PPP. All the govt needs to focus on is basic thing like power, schools;hospital e.t.c
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 2:12pm On Jun 06, 2019
obaaderemi:
I always make sense.It may just not resonate with you. If Kenya's economy is as sophisticated as you claim, then what stops it in dominating Africa in the manufacture of high end goods?


No most of the times you alot of nonsense

We will do that in the near future

Our govt is building TVETs all over the country which is a good thing in our manufacturing sector

Which countries lead Africa in innovation

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