Tickle my senses, please. I really do not understand what SUBMISSION means, and perhaps, mightn't. Do we 'Women' have to be foolish and accept every whims you MEN throw at us? I cannot still fathom what that word entails.

Whoever coined out that word is SEXIST!
Is there a more subtle and clearer definition for it? Why were we 'WOMEN' ordered to only submit and inturn get only LOVE from you men? Love that will still wane? Isn't that selfish? I think both genders should equally submit to each other and love each other too. We crave respect and honour just as you men do too. SO, why does it only revolve around you people?

We are also egotistical just as men are too, so why is it one-sided? What is the need of submitting whole-heartedly when he will still cheat and keep numerous concubines? And please do not mention 'Polygamous in nature' here because humans generally are polygamous, not just men. We are also moved by what we see.

Married men and women, I need answers.
Cococandy
Ibkayee
CHoccolaTE
Pocohantas/Antibrutus
Acidosis
Mrsthang
Liberalchick
Safiaa
Sisisioge
PrimadonnaO
Bukatyne
Crackhaus/Crackhouse
and others..

Your contributions are highly welcome. Sentimental replies will not be appreciated.

UyaiIncomparabl:
Tickle my senses, please. I really do not understand what SUBMISSION means, and perhaps, mightn't. Do we 'Women' have to be foolish and accept every whims you MEN throw at us? I cannot still fathom what that word entails.

Whoever coined out that word is SEXIST!
Is there a more subtle and clearer definition for it? Why were we 'WOMEN' ordered to only submit and inturn get only LOVE from you men? Love that will still wane? Isn't that selfish? I think both genders should equally submit to each other and love each other too. We crave respect and honour just as you men do too. SO, why does it only revolve around you people?

We are also egotistical just as men are too, so why is it one-sided? What is the need of submitting whole-heartedly when he will still cheat and keep numerous concubines? And please do not mention 'Polygamous in nature' here because humans generally are polygamous, not just men. We are also moved by what we see.

Married men and women, I need answers.


Your contributions are highly welcome. Sentimental replies will not be appreciated.

What does submission mean to you?

In spirit and in truth

bukatyne:

What does submission mean to you?

SLAVERY!

donbachi:
In spirit and in truth

Meaning?

UyaiIncomparabl:

Meaning?

the man should be incomparable

UyaiIncomparabl:


SLAVERY!

Hahahahahaha

On a serious note,

What does it mean to do.

What do you think is required of you as a submissive wife?

In other words you want equal right in marriage, but yet you demand that your husband should be financially buoyant to take care of you, to come and pay your dowry, and take most of the responsibilities at home.
The two major religions made it clear that a man is the head hence, the wife should be submissive to him.

Two captains don't drive a ship. Same with an aircraft, a car, etc. In the workplace, there will always be one superior. You can't have two CEOs managing same business unit. A state can't have two Presidents; Osibanjo with his Ph.D in Law MUST submit to Baba Daura as far as governance is concerned.

Hierarchically, one partner must submit to the order other. A man can decide to submit to you if he wants to, but two can't submit to each other.

Submission means allowing an higher authority evaluate a decision that will, or might affect, the entire institution. For any marriage to work, submission is sacrosanct and non-negotiable.

I know my opinion won't go down well with you, but relax, women have estrogen for a reason. Even when the brain doesn't want to submit, your hormone will.

donbachi:
the man should be incomparable

I will be elated if you will just enunciate further.

UyaiIncomparabl:
Married men and women, I need answers.

Pocohantas/Antibrutus

pocohantas is not / can never be married.



*spits

twhy111:
In other words you want equal right in marriage, but yet you demand that your husband should be financially buoyant to take care of you, to come and pay your dowry, and take most of the responsibilities at home.
The two major religions made it clear that a man is the head hence, the wife should be submissive to him.

I never mentioned equal rights. Why can they not love and submit to each other? Is it that hard? And that is why I asked for the meaning of submission.

Acidosis:



Two captains don't drive a ship. Same with an aircraft, a car, etc. In the workplace, there will always be one superior. You can't have two CEOs managing same business unit. A state can't have two Presidents; Osibanjo with his Ph.D in Law MUST submit to Baba Daura as far as governance is concerned.

Hierarchically, one partner must submit to the order. A man can decide to submit to you if he wants to, but two can't submit to each other.

Submission means allowing an higher authority evaluate a decision that will, or might affect, the entire institution. For any marriage to work, submission is sacrosanct and non-negotiable.

I know my opinion won't go down well with you, but relax, women have estrogen for a reason. Even when the brain doesn't want to submit, your hormone will.

Calm down. This post screams of aggression. I appreciate your opinion well and well.

UyaiIncomparabl:


I will be elated if you will just enunciate further.

to conform to the authority and will of the man

The concept of submission is most times lost on me. Majority of people I see singing it are (pseudo) christians and I can't remember the last time I entered a church or read a bible. So, I do not know what they are on about.

But from a non-religious view, submisison should mean respect. A quality every sane human should possess, not just women.

bukatyne:


Hahahahahaha

On a serious note,

What does it mean to do.

What do you think is required of you as a submissive wife?

1] To not object the man's decisions.
2] To remain foolish and smile sheepishly even when I am seething with pain and anger.
3] To always accept that the man is always right.
4] To mop, sweep, cook, clean, still contribute financially and open my legs willingly like the windows of heaven even at my own discomfort.

Need I add more?

Acidosis:



Two captains don't drive a ship. Same with an aircraft, a car, etc. In the workplace, there will always be one superior. You can't have two CEOs managing same business unit. A state can't have two Presidents; Osibanjo with his Ph.D in Law MUST submit to Baba Daura as far as governance is concerned.

Hierarchically, one partner must submit to the order. A man can decide to submit to you if he wants to, but two can't submit to each other.

Submission means allowing an higher authority evaluate a decision that will, or might affect, the entire institution. For any marriage to work, submission is sacrosanct and non-negotiable.

I know my opinion won't go down well with you, but relax, women have estrogen for a reason. Even when the brain doesn't want to submit, your hormone will.

Perfect. More oil

Sister Bulky I sight you

essenceplus:




Perfect. More oil

You will find it perfect na! Sexists everywhere!

Yeah, it should mean respect but for religious peeps it means you do as you are damn well told.

pocohantas:
The concept of submission is most times lost on me. Majority of people I see singing it are (pseudo) christians and I can't remember the last time I entered a church or read a bible. So, I do not know what they are on about.

But from a non-religious view, submisison should mean respect. A quality every sane human should possess, not just women.

UyaiIncomparabl:


1] To not object the man's decisions.
2] To remain foolish and smile sheepishly even when I am seething with pain and anger.
3] To always accept that the man is always right.
4] To mop, sweep, cook, clean, still contribute financially and open my legs willingly like the windows of heaven even at my discomfort.

Need I add more?

I'm a man. This isn't what submission means. I'll be glad as a fan to speak with you but typing is hard work. I can see the source of all these and would like to help clear the misconceptions but I hope you lean away from your preconceived notions and prejudices though

Sterope:
Yeah, it should mean respect but for religious peeps it means you do as you are damn well told.

Sadly, I can't guarantee anyone the highlighted because he has a penîs.

Note submission isn't doing as you're told as that's totalitarian and not involving of the other party

Submission means considering the other party even if you hold a different view. It means putting the other party into consideration and allowing yourself be led.

Submission is power under control not powerlessness

Submission isn't do as you're told. Submission is involvement but the head taking the lead.

Submission implies powerful but under authority. Its not the absence of oneself but entrusting your will in the total control of the head.

UyaiIncomparabl:


I never mentioned equal rights. Why can they not love and submit to each other? Is it that hard? And that is why I asked for the meaning of submission.

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If you ask for the husband and wife to submit to each other then you're making the word 'submission' irrelevant in the first place.
Submission is being obedient, or allowing one to take control over you, which is why we have hierarchy e.g a governor and his deputy.
They both need each other for the proper functioning of the house but one authority must prevail over the other.
Two captain cannot man a ship hence There'll be chaos.
Everything has place the woman under the man. The society, religion, name it all.

Babe submission means being involved even in decision making process while one takes ownership of the decision like he took it all by himself. Marriage is symbiotic where one hand washes the other


Submission isn't being forced or coerced to fit a role. Submission is trusting your good will in the arms of your partner knowing well he has your back good or bad.

Sterope:
Yeah, it should mean respect but for religious peeps it means you do as you are damn well told.

Should in case you decide to get married, from a non religious point of view. Would you allow a man to pay your dowry?

UyaiIncomparabl:


You will find it perfect na! Sexists everywhere!

I'm not your enemy. Do you know the attacks a weak man will take over a long time can kill a strong woman in short time? This is just a scenario

No.

twhy111:

Should in case you decide to get married, from a non religious point of view. Would you allow a man to pay your dowry?

LuciferMessiah:

pocohantas is not / can never be married.


*spits

Do you have a tangible advice to give?

UyaiIncomparabl:
Do you have a tangible advice to give?

Yes

UyaiIncomparabl:


Do you have a tangible advice to give?

When you have a preconceived narrative, how then can you find different understanding you seek? Is it problem your fixed definition of ideas or the ideas in itself!

donbachi:
to conform to the authority and will of the man

LMAO! Unheard of!