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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:19pm On Jun 06, 2019
That's why Kenya is asking for a better deal from the Chinese regarding the remaining part of our railway,we are basically the link of the BRI in Africa.I understand that our officials are the ones playing hardball demanding a 50 % loan and 50 % grant on the remaining section of the SGR.We deserve a better deal!
mtisTheQubit:

The dragon got money to spend which even the west dont have..For japan they got their own issues (stagnant economy an aging population grin ).Bythe way Kenya is the gateway to Africa for ths Belt thing.Much of DRC minerals will pass through here heading to China..Well the Chinese goods will also pass through going inland..Africa need prayers grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:21pm On Jun 06, 2019
gallivant:


Without power? That's impossible. Same with your fake tourism.
exactly ..18% of 400b...would place them so highly I don't think even South Africa or Egypt would measure.Fake GDP.VW sold 14 cars after assembling 32.In South Africa 0.5m new cars are manufactured.Its like their agro...they claim to be big but no Nigeria ship has been found on high seas with Nigerian crops or livestock...apart from a few with cocoa beans.know of any 5th or 6th world largest agro producers that is amongst world largest food importer.... nearly every food surplus country has them as target...they basically export crude and buy refine petrol & food.That is Nigeria cookie and how it's crumble.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 6:22pm On Jun 06, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 6:24pm On Jun 06, 2019
Nairobi Kenya, Nigerians can't believe this grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:31pm On Jun 06, 2019
Jonraid:
That's why Kenya is asking for a better deal from the Chinese regarding the remaining part of our railway,we are basically the link of the BRI in Africa.I understand that our officials are the ones playing hardball demanding a 50 % loan and 50 % grant on the remaining section of the SGR.We deserve a better deal!
I think we need to buy time..past Nairobi..we are doing it for Chinese, Uganda and interior countries.60% of our cargo terminate at Nairobi.Chinese should fund it with Ugandans.Most cargo past Nairobi are headed to Kampala Uganda.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:31pm On Jun 06, 2019
Stevoh18:



I think Equity bank is trying fairly well with Equity agents and Equitel lines
The current legislative is allowing telecoms to placed their deposit in banks.....but with current trends of the money that passes thru this medium, i foresee telecoms company applying for digital banking license which will be a total game changer to traditional banking . All traditional bank now must sit tight or advance a new strategy.

I also foresee digital money market growing. More smart-phones'll continue to be produced. That's a huge OPPORTUNITY to make cool cash fixing(vocational skills is now getting more important) A service business puts money in Ur pocket. IT skills will be needed more ( the Data must be protected) in fact it is going to be a complete game changer.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:31pm On Jun 06, 2019
tylann:


You see you are a Kenyan
Can you survive with 6000 in Kenya cossano ??
I have been to Nakuru industrial zone
It is true that most industries closed shop
But some are being revived like the pyrethrum which is being revived by the county govt and national govt

You can only survive with 6,000 kshs monthly in Tanzania. Tell cossano thanks but no thanks, we are not into modern day slavery.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:33pm On Jun 06, 2019
We are here already and the banks are still posting profits.We still need banks for big money transactions.Banks have become more innovative so as to check on the fintech rise.Mobile money is not really a competitor to traditional banking but rather a facilitator.Mobile banking and traditional banking are intertwined in Kenya!Banks are embracing mobile banking so to speak! Get to learn more about M-Shwari,Timiza and such innovations!
vaxx:
Kenya's , what is your veiw when telecommunication company finally take the role of digital banking as we can see now thru the use of mobile money,how will you think traditional bank will cope or tolerate it.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:36pm On Jun 06, 2019
obaaderemi:
Ethiopia will very soon be the factory of Africa. All it needs is an opening up of their economy. Do you know they just signed a deal to help Ghana restart its state airline and they'll be owning 48% of the new joint venture?

Why didn't they start one with Nigeria?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 6:37pm On Jun 06, 2019
Vax, banks need to cooperate with telecoms or they also need go to telecom.Most Kenyan banks have done the cooperation & sharing costs...Equity went rogue and got telecom license...using sim swap.The reality now 95% of Kenyan banking is thro telecom...branches are going out.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:37pm On Jun 06, 2019
That's what our officials are saying! We are in a no hurry really!
rvp20182:
I think we need to buy time..past Nairobi..we are doing it for Chinese, Uganda and interior countries.60% of our cargo terminate at Nairobi.Chinese should fund it with Ugandans.Most cargo past Nairobi are headed to Kampala Uganda.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:38pm On Jun 06, 2019
Jonraid:
We are here already and the banks are still posting profits.We still need banks for big money transactions.Banks have become more innovative so as to check on the fintech rise.Mobile money is not really a competitor to traditional banking but rather a facilitator.Mobile banking and traditional banking are intertwined in Kenya!Banks are embracing mobile banking so to speak!
Telecoms might soon begin to apply for digital banking licences . The cash transfer thru this medium is getting bigger everyday. It has overtaken traditional cheques. The future has a lot of promise to telecoms operating this service. Full Digital banking is coming soon. This wiill be a game changer.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:39pm On Jun 06, 2019
The greenery is toxic! grin
Stevoh18:
Nairobi Kenya, Nigerians can't believe this grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:40pm On Jun 06, 2019
edon21:

that's if you don't exit in the group stage

Of course.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:41pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
yes you cannot survive on Kes.6,000 in Kenya and i dont think whether you can survive on that amount in ethiopia either, but the ethipian government is looking at the long term goals not short term gains. sometimes its better a half a loaf than no bread at all. thats the superior logic here



You have no brains at all. That's modern day slavery you can only wish on Tz and Ethiopia. I say no bread at all, principles are superior. Clearly the konyagi and Azam drink is a bad mix! wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jun 06, 2019
ednited:


On my school project and all

The final one?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:45pm On Jun 06, 2019
Acadavah:


You don't know anything about history. Tanganyika was never under NAZI rule, Tanganyika was a colony of Germany until 1919 after ww1. At ww2 many of Tanganyika soldiers were sent to Burma to fight the Japanese. It was at ww1 when Tanganyika( Germany East Africa then) fight against British, Belgium and Portuguese colonies. At ww1 kenyan soldiers didn't even had guns, they were sent by British to be massacred by Tanganyika Askaris.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_African_Campaign_(World_War_I)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28836752


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuNP20kw0q8

You should have noticed the emoji. Obviously I was mocking you bongolalas. But generally speaking Tanzania has always been on the losing side of history. From supporting Germans in WW1 to aligning with the communists and everything else.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:49pm On Jun 06, 2019
samorobo:


@bolder may be to you guys but to the rest of the world we are and it's no joke cause it the reality.
Nigeria is going through a phase now sure but what gives us hope is the amazing sectors that coming on board and the plans we have ahead.
Just the same way you think kenya is heading to the top it's also the same way NIGERIA is heading to the top.

As for 2080 yes by then the entire continent should be developed. Haven't you heard of the sentences that say "AFRICA IS THE FUTURE , ASIA IS THE PRESENT BUT EUROPE IS THE PAST ". That because africa is the youngest continent in the world with more than half of its population being at the age of 30 years and below

Dude! The whole continent won't be developed by 2080. As it is right now some are regressing already. Poverty in Nigeria for instance will keep rising untill maybe the next decade at the earliest. Few will be developed by 2080. But its true Africa is the future. Why do I find myself wondering if Buhari has the capacity to deliver the things you are hyping? He's uneducated to start with. I usually wonder if he understands complex things in a boardroom meeting.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 6:50pm On Jun 06, 2019
rvp20182:
Vax, banks need to cooperate with telecoms or they also need go to telecom.Most Kenyan banks have done the cooperation & sharing costs...Equity went rogue and got telecom license...using sim swap.The reality now 95% of Kenyan banking is thro telecom...branches are going out.
equity had made a giant step. There is going to be serious issue in the future. This is what we must accept. Except for the banks with much more innovative idea.


The largest share of mobile money deposits in Ghana rest with Fidelity Bank; followed by Ecobank and CAL Bank. In Ghana you can even get your dividends paid thru mobile money. And This means that mobile money can become digital banks since there is a lot of vunerability to cash transaction — banks might no longer be custodians of the mobile money accounts if telecom's apply for digital banking licence . The situation will be disruptive to traditional banks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:52pm On Jun 06, 2019
Hati13:

It would be nice for some period but suicide bomb will be knocking to our door. Are prepared to take the risk?

Does Ethiopia have a satellite state within Somalia that it aligns with? Like Jubaland for Kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 6:53pm On Jun 06, 2019
It will be a game changer.Our banks have already embraced digital banking! I think our banks are the most innovative in Africa when it comes to that front! We are now talking of blockchain and AI technologies! We are ahead of many in Africa when it comes to embracing this disruptive innovations.As a matter of fact,we have a task-force formed by our president on task to establish how we as a country can fully harness and benefit from blockchain technology!
vaxx:
Telecoms might soon begin to apply for digital banking licences . The cash transfer thru this medium is getting bigger everyday. It has overtaken traditional cheques. The future has a lot of promise tontelecoms operating this service. Full Digital banking is coming soon. This wiill be a game changer.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jun 06, 2019
Hati13:

Polygamy in Ethiopia on Mswati level I think is non existential grin, but very few areas still particle it.

But why dont Ethiopian men marry many wives and the way they are beautiful grin Mswati would marry hundreds of Habesha ladies grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:54pm On Jun 06, 2019
cossano:
now you are talking, remember there was also that bill in parliament that sought to make nairobi a tax haven, nairobi is also looking to become a mineral exchange hub hence the dalliance with the new Congolese govt, these are smart moves if implemented well. another one is the proposed kisumu industrial park, and the expansion and dredging of the kisumu port, remember if the Kenyan govt fails to actualize this project and the Tz Govt goes ahead and completes the central corridor all the way to Bukoba and connects it with port bell in Uganda, Tz will dominate the regional trade and you know what this will mean for Kenya.

Kenya has nothing to worry then. We can trust the Tanzanians not to finish or even start such a project. Just like Bagamoyo port, LNG plant, Uganda pipeline etc. We ain't worried. cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 6:56pm On Jun 06, 2019
theenchanter:
oga, forget about defending everything here!

The talk is about manufacturing and not garment factory worker salaries. Is garment factory d only manufacturing industry in Ethiopia?

Yes.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:01pm On Jun 06, 2019
Hati13:

Kenya playing in Wanda Metropolitano will be once in a life time opportunity for fans in Madrid. grin Are increasingly Kenyans becoming spurs fan because of Wayanama playing there?

Since your players know no one expect them to win the cup they will play freely and playing freely can lead to surprises like what happened in EPL 3 years ago.

Yes I will be behind your team. I’m not gay but it’s because of you. grin


Yea I have noticed many Kenyans are Spurs fans. They are a big team now you know. Lets talk about prospects when if we pass the group stage. We may be the Leicester cheesy Damn! That last part grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:03pm On Jun 06, 2019
gallivant:


Kenya has nothing to worry then. We can trust the Tanzanians not to finish or even start such a project. Just like Bagamoyo port, LNG plant, Uganda pipeline etc. We ain't worried. cool

My thoughts grin When its Tanzania you are to worry about then you have nothing to worry about.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:08pm On Jun 06, 2019
TayserMahri:


You should have noticed the emoji. Obviously I was mocking you bongolalas. But generally speaking Tanzania has always been on the losing side of history. From supporting Germans in WW1 to aligning with the communists and everything else.

A classic Pariah State!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:24pm On Jun 06, 2019
gallivant:


Why didn't they start one with Nigeria? They don't think much of Nigeria?
Why didn't the Ghanaians call Kenya Airways? They didn't want you to bring your loss making curse to them? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:27pm On Jun 06, 2019
gallivant:


Without power? That's impossible. Same with your fake tourism.
You Are not very smart.Are you? Nigeria's first three biggest companies by revenue are all manufacturing companies. Yours are banks and telecoms. grin Without power, Nigeria's manufacturing is still bigger than yours by far.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:28pm On Jun 06, 2019
obaaderemi:
With China's Belt and Road Initiative which provides cheap loans to African countries, it's going to be hard for Africa to rise. The debt trap is to keep Africa down perpetually. Look at the overpriced SGR they are giving Africa for example, getting out of such traps is hard except if you have a large economy like Nigeria and oil wealth. If Kenya's SGR loan is actually linked to Mombasa port,then you can kiss that port goodbye or at least watch as China administer it for decades to come. That's why I favour an economic alliance with Japan instead of China or Europe. Japan is not as resource hungry as the former. It just needs a market for its tech stuff which can be used as components for our own tech stuff if we are smart enough. Teaching our kids coding can not even save Africa. It may help individuals but Africa as a whole,No.


Not sure where to start with. Once again Nigeria and co will not be part of a major global trade route. Very unfortunate because the way global commerce works is such that if you are not in the mainstream you are left behind with breadcrumbs. This is actually a very sad moment for much of Africa. As you can see the One Belt Road has intertwined European economies even further and linked them to Asia. Africa, once again and as ever before is largely sidelined. This thing will define the future of the global economy that China will largely dictate. We are back to the Silk Road days of yore. The exception is Kenya. Whether by design, luck or geographical determinism I dont know. The bottomline is that the future economy will be further skewed in favor of the linked countries. Kenya will benefit so much from the belt, and to some extent this benefit will go inwards esp to the Congo area. Too bad if Congolese dont use their brains because they are the target trophy and Kenya might be accused of milking them dry. The Chinese need those minerals so bad they would even forfeit the entire loan if we defaulted. Forget about economic alliance with Japan. They are inward-looking since the Hiroshima catastrophe. They dont have time for partnerships with Africans on any serious scale. As it is, any developing country that does not take advantage of China's meteoric rise will be doomed - literally.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:37pm On Jun 06, 2019
gallivant:


A classic Pariah State!

Now they are siding with Somalia on the maritime thing and they will lose again. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jun 06, 2019
obaaderemi:
Why didn't the Ghanaians call Kenya Airways? They didn't want you to bring your loss making curse to them? grin

what should worry you is that an East African airline (our neighbor) is taking over West African skies. Not to talk of the fact that your own airline's revival was dead on arrival. And you call yourselves giants. Why not take over Ghana's airline and revive it if you are giants grin Lets see if it wont crash like your own.

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