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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:26am On Jun 07, 2019
Jonraid:
''But but but you are making losses,but but but....'' grin grin grin


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They should tell us where they are making profits
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:42am On Jun 07, 2019
tylann:


Zinox or omatex i have never heard of them

Come on innoson doesn't manufacture vehicles

Zinox and omatek might not be popular like the big names HP, apple,Samsung and the rest but it is growing and will definitely go global. It a startup remember

That the reason why lagos is the entrepreneur hub of africa .we fund start up.
Alway remember that we are the brain and back bone behind whatever success your entrepreneurs might be in the future cos we anually fund entrepreneurs in africa. You had better go and apply for this year so we can change your life

As for cars . Not only do we have innoson, we also have PROFOUND.
THE CAR COMPANY STARTED LAST YEAR AND THEY HAVE STARTED EXPORTING TO COUNTRIES LIKE SOUTH AFRICA AMD OTHER DEVELOPED NATION, EVEN UNITED NATIONs DEPENDS ON THEM NOW CAUSE OF THE HIGH QUALITY WORLD CLASS BULLET PROOF CARS FOR THEIR VARIOUS MILLITALY
THEY COULD HAVE CHOSE US OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPED NATION BUT THEY CHOSE US FOR OUR QUALITY PRODUCTS
.in a few years time their presence will grow.
We also export shoes to Europe forgiveness has dealt with that when xhosanostra tried to argue. That the reason buhari took eyimba economic city there due to their apprentice skills

You canT compare your 7% manufacturing sector with ours
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:45am On Jun 07, 2019
theenchanter:
why not quote me directly?

OK, what do u assemble n sell on a large scale in kenya?

The mumu hasn't heard of PROFOUND

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:47am On Jun 07, 2019
samorobo:


The mumu hasn't heard of PROFOUND
PROFORCE. grin

he frequents d military thread, u would've heard of it. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 10:49am On Jun 07, 2019
samorobo:


Zinox and omatek might not be popular like the big names HP, apple,Samsung and the rest but it is growing and will definitely go global. It a startup remember

That the reason why lagos is the entrepreneur hub of africa .we fund start up.
Alway remember that we are the brain and back bone behind whatever success your entrepreneurs might be in the future cos we anually fund entrepreneurs in africa. You had better go and apply for this year so we can change your life

As for cars . Not only do we have innoson, we also have PROFOUND.
THE CAR COMPANY STARTED LAST YEAR AND THEY HAVE STARTED EXPORTING TO COUNTRIES LIKE SOUTH AFRICA AMD OTHER DEVELOPED NATION, EVEN UNITED NATIONs DEPENDS ON THEM NOW CAUSE OF THE HIGH QUALITY WORLD CLASS BULLET PROOF CARS FOR THEIR VARIOUS MILLITALY
THEY COULD HAVE CHOSE US OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPED NATION BUT THEY CHOSE US FOR OUR QUALITY PRODUCTS
.in a few years time their presence will grow.
We also export shoes to Europe forgiveness has dealt with that when xhosanostra tried to argue. That the reason buhari took eyimba economic city there due to their apprentice skills

You canT compare your 7% manufacturing sector with ours


You are fckin with me right why should apply visa to go Lagos

Tylann cant survive in lagos i love my life

Innoson , profound all they do is coupling
Nothing else
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:51am On Jun 07, 2019
rvp2018:
In the meantime - Kenya SGR - started construction in 2014 - and in record 3yrs was in Nairobi - and now in Naivasha (about 600ksm) - and in 2yrs of operation (1 yr for cargo)...

According to the statistics from the Africa Star Railway Operation Company Ltd, by 31st May, SGR has offered service to 3 million passengers and transported 440,000 TEUs. The transportation management to 25 stations out of 33 is fully handled by Kenyan employees. The localization of 9 passenger service stations, train service and passenger management has reached beyond 90%.

Compare to NIGERIA smiley

Nigeria SGR I think began in 2006 smiley and is still far from complete - Lagos - Kano SGR - only complete part is Abuja-Kaduna -200kms- (possibly with embarrassing operational stats).

Abuja-Kaduna - (3yrs) of “safe operation of the Abuja- Kaduna train service” offering services to over 1.5 million passengers so far. MSA-NBI in 2yrs - 3M passengers.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:52am On Jun 07, 2019
tylann:


You are fckin with me right why should apply visa to go Lagos

Tylann cant survive in lagos i love my life

Innoson , profound all they do is coupling
Nothing else
how do u couple chassis without stamping it? undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 10:58am On Jun 07, 2019
NairobiWalker:


Wait................are you getting influenced by Kumamoto when we are trying to get him to change?

Not what I miss in here. Stop the Kumatato and fights
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 10:59am On Jun 07, 2019
TayserMahri:

The final one?
Kind of,
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:00am On Jun 07, 2019
obaaderemi:
With China's Belt and Road Initiative which provides cheap loans to African countries, it's going to be hard for Africa to rise. The debt trap is to keep Africa down perpetually. Look at the overpriced SGR they are giving Africa for example, getting out of such traps is hard except if you have a large economy like Nigeria and oil wealth. If Kenya's SGR loan is actually linked to Mombasa port,then you can kiss that port goodbye or at least watch as China administer it for decades to come. That's why I favour an economic alliance with Japan instead of China or Europe. Japan is not as resource hungry as the former. It just needs a market for its tech stuff which can be used as components for our own tech stuff if we are smart enough. Teaching our kids coding can not even save Africa. It may help individuals but Africa as a whole,No.


True.
Us are not saint but china are not any better.
Us is ready to give you loans with high interest that they know would be difficult for you to pay so in the end they can have access to your resource but china on the other is ready to tell you " hey dude we give as much loans as you want with little interest so you can pay back but then we must enter an agreement of neocolonization if you don't fulfil " so many gullible african leaders will see this as an opportunity to borrow so much that they will land themselves in a debt trap, a perfect example is KENYA.
With no resources how can they services that debt. At least diverse resourcesfull country can still negotiate with them by saying "OKAY LEAVE OUR GOLD AND FOCUS ON OUR BAUXITE UNTILL OUR DEBT HAS BEEN PAID IN FULL"
Unfortunately resourceless land like kenya will have to harness their workforce on the already ceased infastructure from the chinese to payback their loan for years while important infastructure that is needed for the people will lie dormant due no money available to build any.these alone would return them to worst case than in the 90s

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:06am On Jun 07, 2019
ednited:


Not what I miss in here. Stop the Kumatato and fights

Kumamoto is a city in Japan

That T-9 dog called kazikazi must be put in his place

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:07am On Jun 07, 2019
TayserMahri:



Not sure where to start with. Once again Nigeria and co will not be part of a major global trade route. Very unfortunate because the way global commerce works is such that if you are not in the mainstream you are left behind with breadcrumbs. This is actually a very sad moment for much of Africa. As you can see the One Belt Road has intertwined European economies even further and linked them to Asia. Africa, once again and as ever before is largely sidelined. This thing will define the future of the global economy that China will largely dictate. We are back to the Silk Road days of yore. The exception is Kenya. Whether by design, luck or geographical determinism I dont know. The bottomline is that the future economy will be further skewed in favor of the linked countries. Kenya will benefit so much from the belt, and to some extent this benefit will go inwards esp to the Congo area. Too bad if Congolese dont use their brains because they are the target trophy and Kenya might be accused of milking them dry. The Chinese need those minerals so bad they would even forfeit the entire loan if we defaulted. Forget about economic alliance with Japan. They are inward-looking since the Hiroshima catastrophe. They dont have time for partnerships with Africans on any serious scale. As it is, any developing country that does not take advantage of China's meteoric rise will be doomed - literally.
You always allow emotion to becloud your reasoning. China invests more in Nigeria than Kenya or any other eastern African country. In a nutshell, Nigeria and West Africa are more important than Kenya or East Africa in China's Belt and Road Initiative. Check the pattern and statistics of China's FDI in Africa and you will see. But all in all, Africa is in trouble by playing along with China. China is as rapacious as colonial Europe and Africa needs to be careful instead of celebrating as you were in your comment about China's interest in Kenya. It's little beyond neocolonialism.
Check the screenshot and chart below and you will see that while China invests in Nigeria, they hang debts around your neck in Kenya. grin grin

Stock of Chinese FDI in Africa
Nigeria: 17%
Kenya: 6%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:09am On Jun 07, 2019
samorobo:


Yeah sure he is crazy.
Taahira hmmmmm I like how that sounds grin


I also like how samorobo sounds smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:24am On Jun 07, 2019
kikuyu1:


Did you just say that? Why didn't they call their Giant neighbour's Naij airways? You're quite feminine in your lack of sense of irony and honesty!
You idiot,Nigeria does not have a national airline like Ghana so how can they call Nigeria airways?Do you even think before you type? Or you just barge into discussions without knowing the genesis? Even the person my comment was meant for had nothing to say.

National airlines are a major way for politicians to steal money these days as Kenya perennial loss making airline has shown. It's why America itself does not have a national airline.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:26am On Jun 07, 2019
tylann:


You are fckin with me right why should apply visa to go Lagos

Tylann cant survive in lagos i love my life

Innoson , profound all they do is coupling
Nothing else

Mumu oooo proforce is not coupled in nigeria it is manufactured. Lets just assume that it is coupled in nigeria we are making a fortune from it. UN love their cars so much and ant do without it.
As for your safety in lagos I can assure you will be safe . Your brothers don't worry about that when they come down here anually to beg for funds.keep your pride aside so we can help your life financially

And for the records lagos is by far safer than nairoslum.I mean look at our tourist are going missing everyday, or how 30 children goes missing everyday. Or alsaahab latest kidnappings in April. Damn it nairoslum is hell on earth, chorea alone from your slum can kill me if I decide to go for slum tourism
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:29am On Jun 07, 2019
Problemkid1:
Your tourism is fake and your GDP is also fake too, Mr pig tongue grin
Of course their GDP is fake. How can agriculture generate 30% of their GDP when all their tea production is about $1bn? Milk another $3bn? What's left? Their GDP max is $40bn--$50bn.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:29am On Jun 07, 2019
rvp20182:
Kenya manufacturing may have issues but it still easily the best manufacturing in East n Central Africa.Even in apparel and textile..Ethiopia has long way to get to Kenya..in AGOA Kenya are doing nearly 400m dollars worth of exports while Ethiopia are not in even at 150.Obviously Ethiopia and Rwanda stories are sexed up considering the deep mess they are coming from.I think only South Africa and Egypt are larger in Manufacturing...the magreb are also good but Nigeria is crap outside few Dangote like monopolies.If it wasnt Manu Chandaria won't be dominating their steel and aluminium sectors.In COMESA Kenya is only second to Egypt.When we get Africa Trade soon...Kenya will spread its wings to West and Central Africa.Nigeria will never sign...their federal gov is under Dangote capture..their Dangote underbelly will exposed to competition...the crazy profit margin he makes will disappear.Apart from subsidizing electricity cost Kenya need to pursue more export opportunities within Africa....and try nail agro processing for the developed world.. otherwise we won't be exporting electronics to anybody soon.


Mumu. Nigeria will never sign that deal taariha grin grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:33am On Jun 07, 2019
rvp20182:
Misplaced anger. Kenya in 90s was once in your situation of hopelessness.There were few who were sugarcoating it but things were sure getting worse...as bad as new hiv aids that was maiming people .But we turned around the story of our nation through something called Narc Revolution.I was right at heart of it as student of uon...we had nothing to look for or to fear..they had robed our past and our present m.we charged at police aiming live bullets like we're possessed... and it's one of my proudest moment as Kenya.Prior to that..Kenya had entered recession in 2002 with -1.7%..everything had literally grinded to a halt...all indices were so bad...many like Kikuyu here were linning Western world embassies to escape however unwelcoming the host were..for a decade things were really bad...But from 2002 we became the most optimistic people on earth..we knew we had permanently turned the corner on dictatorship..we were sure nothing could bring us down.Then we had setback in 2007 and there again we're starring at the precipe...but we quickly recovered, enacted a new constitution and now things are getting better and better.Sudan are doing it now.Nigeria will perish unless the common man unite and revolt.



Don't dream taahira cheesy grin grin.
Kenya is so doom .alk the ingredients needed to return you to your worst case than in the 90s are readily available.
From war (terrorism ), tribal conflict, neocolonialism the list is endless

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:45am On Jun 07, 2019
TayserMahri:


Does Ethiopia have a satellite state within Somalia that it aligns with? Like Jubaland for Kenya.
I’m not sure but I don’t think so. Somalia is very hostile to Kenya but why do Jubaland become a satellite state to Kenya? Is it by force or money?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:47am On Jun 07, 2019
rvp20182:
I think you don't know Kenyans.We were the first to launch an armed struggle against the whites in Africa.Nigeria like many Africa countries got their independence thro silver platter.Kenya shed blood.The second thing Kenya respect hardwork and smartness...we don't respect criminal like Nigerians or lazybones like TZ.Yes we admire Western nations and it's people for their advanced culture..we will admire and respect Nigerians when you stop acting like morons.The average Kenya is worldly thanks to our historical emphasis on education.


Kenya will be jealous of resourcefull countries cause they feel they suffered in the 90s while other countries enjoyed their resourcess and now they think adding debt to their gdp has improved their less than $82bn economy after so many years of independence.
To them they are like nature was not and has never been fair to us so they thought it wise to go the south african way by begging the whites to live with them since their fellow black africans abandoned them and enjoyed their wealth. But they never approached it properly. SA never wanted the white to stay but their hands are tied- mumu kenya tells themselves that with white we would be like south africa and even surpass them because we will never revolt against them and their love for us will increase. Fools nothing can Stop you from the doom that await you not even those whites and Indians , all thanks to the Chinese. You are never going to be better than resourcesfull countries .
Don't let your white slavery delude you

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:50am On Jun 07, 2019
samorobo:


Mumu oooo proforce is not coupled in nigeria it is manufactured. Lets just assume that it is coupled in nigeria we are making a fortune from it. UN love their cars so much and ant do without it.
As for your safety in lagos I can assure you will be safe . Your brothers don't worry about that when they come down here anually to beg for funds.keep your pride aside so we can help your life financially

And for the records lagos is by far safer than nairoslum.I mean look at our tourist are going missing everyday, or how 30 children goes missing everyday. Or alsaahab latest kidnappings in April. Damn it nairoslum is hell on earth, chorea alone from your slum can kill me if I decide to go for slum tourism

This mumu and emotions .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:51am On Jun 07, 2019
TayserMahri:


But why dont Ethiopian men marry many wives and the way they are beautiful grin Mswati would marry hundreds of Habesha ladies grin
Lol, it’s because it’s inappropriate for Christian to become a polygamy. But some Muslim do have multiple wives.

Are there Kenyans who practice polygamy?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:34pm On Jun 07, 2019
obaaderemi:
You always allow emotion to becloud your reasoning. China invests more in Nigeria than Kenya or any other eastern African country. In a nutshell, Nigeria and West Africa are more important than Kenya or East Africa in China's Belt and Road Initiative. Check the pattern and statistics of China's FDI in Africa and you will see. But all in all, Africa is in trouble by playing along with China. China is as rapacious as colonial Europe and Africa needs to be careful instead of celebrating as you were in your comment about China's interest in Kenya. It's little beyond neocolonialism.
Check the screenshot and chart below and you will see that while China invests in Nigeria, they hang debts around your neck in Kenya. grin grin

Stock of Chinese FDI in Africa
Nigeria: 17%
Kenya: 6%
Dude you dont get the whole idea of belt thing..its a way of China expansion an i did not see any line linking china to lagos or any west africa port..What Chine wants it can get it in Greater east Africa.if its oil everyone got it here..If mineral DRC got everything .even our j.. grin neighbor have more minerals than any west african country.The only thing china needs from your place is the zombies who will buy their products.You see Kenya is Blessed in a way (kazi be ashamed grin) .Our locality is everything ..We are the entry point in African the way Chinese sees it..Just look at the map below an learn something..Dont just quote stuff which are not there..just look at the map grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:46pm On Jun 07, 2019
samorobo:



Kenya will be jealous of resourcefull countries cause they feel they suffered in the 90s while other countries enjoyed their resourcess and now they think adding debt to their gdp has improved their less than $82bn economy after so many years of independence.
To them they are like nature was not and has never been fair to us so they thought it wise to go the south african way by begging the whites to live with them since their fellow black africans abandoned them and enjoyed their wealth. But they never approached it properly. SA never wanted the white to stay but their hands are tied- mumu kenya tells themselves that with white we would be like south africa and even surpass them because we will never revolt against them and their love for us will increase. Fools nothing can Stop you from the doom that await you not even those whites and Indians , all thanks to the Chinese. You are never going to be better than resourcesfull countries .
Don't let your white slavery delude you
First to be honest with you Nigerians are always bitter when talking about Whites in other African countries..If the whites in those countries treat blacks bad then its for the citizens of affected to say so not a zoo resident who drowns following the same white people..its pathetic man..be contented with your arabs (the Lebanese dudes)..S.A are ok with their whites same goes for Kenya...we care less what your irabs do in the zoo

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jun 07, 2019
samorobo:


Mumu oooo proforce is not coupled in nigeria it is manufactured. Lets just assume that it is coupled in nigeria we are making a fortune from it. UN love their cars so much and ant do without it.
As for your safety in lagos I can assure you will be safe . Your brothers don't worry about that when they come down here anually to beg for funds.keep your pride aside so we can help your life financially

And for the records lagos is by far safer than nairoslum.I mean look at our tourist are going missing everyday, or how 30 children goes missing everyday. Or alsaahab latest kidnappings in April. Damn it nairoslum is hell on earth, chorea alone from your slum can kill me if I decide to go for slum tourism
Jeez....

With an estimated population of 21 million, Lagos is Nigeria’s largest city and one of the largest cities in the world. Crime levels are also very high, with Numbeo giving the city a rating of 80.88 out of a possible crime score of 100. The OSAC gives Lagos a crime rating of "critical". Locals and expatriates alike living in Lagos are prone to muggings, armed robberies, home or business burglaries, carjackings, assaults, rapes, kidnappings, and extortion. Armed robbers in the city are known to even climb up perimeter fences and subdue guards, and others have invaded waterfront compounds by way of boats. Criminals also target vehicle occupants in traffic, and break into stationary cars. Some of Lagos' crime hot-spots are airport roads in the days or evenings, as well as banks and grocery stores. Street gangs dubbed "area boys" cause terror in the mainland of the city when they clash. Lagos is also an e-mail scam hotbed, from where dubious cyber criminal prey on people under the pretension that they can receive huge compensation in return some time later after parting with some money by way of electronic transactions.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:09pm On Jun 07, 2019
Jonraid:
Waiting patiently to see if Air Tz and their railway will make profits! It's a worldwide phenomenon that such ventures mostly don't generate monetary profits even those in developed nations!

Exactly. Their value is in their contribution to GDP (multiplier effects). Even the Kenyan govt knows that. Air Tz should be completely broke in no more than a few months. No hating.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:10pm On Jun 07, 2019
They should post the profits of their railways corporations and air national carriers! grin
tylann:


They should tell us where they are making profits
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:10pm On Jun 07, 2019
ednited:


Kind of,

You need to talk to NairobiWalker. He can give you much needed assistance if you get stuck somewhere. He went through the same you know.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 1:12pm On Jun 07, 2019
We have a geographical advantage. The centrality of Kenya in the world hasn't been fully harnessed!
mtisTheQubit:

Dude you dont get the whole idea of belt thing..its a way of China expansion an i did not see any line linking china to lagos or any west africa port..What Chine wants it can get it in Greater east Africa.if its oil everyone got it here..If mineral DRC got everything .even our j.. grin neighbor have more minerals than any west african country.The only thing china needs from your place is the zombies who will buy their products.You see Kenya is Blessed in a way (kazi be ashamed grin) .Our locality is everything ..We are the entry point in African the way Chinese sees it..Just look at the map below an learn something..Dont just quote stuff which are not there..just look at the map grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jun 07, 2019
Hati13:

I’m not sure but I don’t think so. Somalia is very hostile to Kenya but why do Jubaland become a satellite state to Kenya? Is it by force or money?

The Somalis in Jubaland have no delusions at all about Somalia. They know it is not a workable project. Thats how/why they are friendly to Kenya in the hope that they can gain independence one day like Somaliland. Kenya gives them monetary and military support. Thats whats up! No coercion is involved and obviously the Kenyan govt sees Jubaland as better prospect as a neigbor and a buffer zone to the madness in greater Somalia.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:16pm On Jun 07, 2019
Hati13:

Lol, it’s because it’s inappropriate for Christian to become a polygamy. But some Muslim do have multiple wives.

Are there Kenyans who practice polygamy?

Yea there are many polygamous men in Kenya. The most famous was Akuku Danger with 100 wives grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:17pm On Jun 07, 2019
TayserMahri:


Exactly. Their value is in their contribution to GDP (multiplier effects). Even the Kenyan govt knows that. Air Tz should be completely broke in no more than a few months. No hating.
Expecting our poorly feed and educated mumus and wabongo to understand such concept is a stretch.Yes the real value of infrastructure is to be an enabler...nobody computes how much profit a road makes...but when it comes to rail that last 100yrs you see all sort of pseudo economic bring their tunnel visions to dismiss it

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