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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 10:09am On Jun 08, 2019 |
openmine:My dear loving nwanne openmine, every single thing, matter and word I type on this revealing thread is important, make no mistake otherwise. Also nwanne, you are not the first and surely won't be the last with that closed mind attitude, Agrogbeide my nwanne from another mother, shares your sentiment too, but you know as well as I do, that you can take a horse to the river, but you can't force it to drink. I certainly, haven't nursed any wish to force you or anybody to drink, I am just leading you to water and showing you it. Trust me, you are a troll and heckler rolled into one. In the face of stark reality, all you shamelessly air are opinions, opinions that are contrary to the word of God, opinions that say and insist on what the Bible never says, doesn't say, hasn't said and never says. When asked to explain what in particular you detest in homosexual acts, you clam up, lips zipped and go schtum. You are incapable of saying what in the homosexual acts is particularly bad, evil and wrong. All you are capable of, is repeatedly doing your strawman mining nonsense openmine:I hadnt said, you complained nau. I made a rhetorical question, that didn't really need a reply, but you just have to live up to the troll cum heckler status, and also not minding your own business, just have to poke your nose in and comment hmm? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 10:12am On Jun 08, 2019 |
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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 11:33am On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Primarily,lets be perspicuous on your misplaced line of thought,you never forced me into any river because i was never there in the first place! Secondly,your usage of a closed mind attitude is not only flawed but another of your jaded and poignantly churned out words to label people who don't agree with your shallow and indecipherable opinions! If you are referring to your intransigent submissions hoping to force it down to people in order to cajole about homosexual acts,then you failed woefully! You were unable to inveigle in your rib-tickling and odious submissions that God permits and allows homosexual acts which should have served as a base for your vacuous argument esp with firm inclinations on scriptures which you say you believe in...Unfortunately,your perfunctory usage of personal logic as a last ditch effort to prove your asseveration only serves as a validation that you never had a single scripture to evince! Yeah....Once anyone has a squabble or altercation with you or ultimately, boxes you to a corner,you regrettably and ingloriously churn out name tags to sound admissible! Am used to your kind...dem plenty for nairaland esp in the religious section! Any circumspect individual that has perused the back and forth between us will agree that you have not only being evasive and rhetorical,you have also backed your submissions with more of your logic than scriptures...disagree right? Now show that am wrong by providing scriptures to assuage your farcically written presentations that God adores and tolerates homosexual acts! No stories! See this one? If the thread was about using personal opinions or human logic which is always subject to controversies about homosexual acts,that would have been a different issue entirely.. However, the interest was how you would use scriptures to prove that God grants and tolerates homosexual acts! So asking me about my beef or my personal opinion about homosexual acts is not only a diversion but going off tangent and venturing into another issue entirely which is your ploy to mask your ineptitude to present a single scripture that agrees with what you profess! I must confess i like that strategy but it doesn't work with me esp when the user is periphrastic! You know the time adopted to make your stale and repetitive "troll" hogwash would have given you ample period to ratify your submissions even though i am fully convinced that you really dont have any to bequeath! That has been your blueprint! So am the least bit perturbed! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 12:07pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
openmine:Did I ever say or use "force" on you, in my post that you replied to erh openmine? You sure have a way of interpreting things they way you fancy sha. No skin off my nose, continue if it makes you happy. You are still keeping on at this strawman mining hmm, have a blast, just don't choke on it. Can you please tell, what the title of the subject of this thread is openmine hmm? Well there you have it. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 12:28pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:If Procreation is a means to an end, what then is the End? Pls answer with regards to 'Let everything procreate according to its kind'. MuttleyLaff:What is a joke about the question MuttleyLaff? MuttleyLaff:Do you still remember that 'Thou shall not lie' is a Commandment of YHWH? MuttleyLaff:Smoke screen. MuttleyLaff:A Nazarite not a Nazarine. They are different. And yes you brought up the percentage of the homosexuals making it seem like they were too few to be used of God. MuttleyLaff, I am not holding you oo. You brought it up so clarify it. Why wasn't one homosexual in the olden days used by God? You rightly said they were in the days of the Bible, I agree, the Bible mentioned them, but why were not used by God? MuttleyLaff:See as you just use Hammer take crush your blokosh. These were people chosen to serve as persists before God, but because they had DEFECTS, they were not to approach. Even at that, You just affirmed that if God will not use the homosexuals it was because they had a defect Isn't this what we have been saying since morning? Homosexuality tendencies is a sexual defect MuttleyLaff. You just lifted scriptures which are not even close to back up your claim, yet ended up nailing yourself by Yourself. MuttleyLaff:I didn't read your lengthy post, so post it to me again. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 1:02pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: @MuttleyLaff chew your own words properly..."i but you know as well as I do, that you can take a horse to the river, but you can't force it to drink." And beside i was hilariously responding to your inappropriate and unsuitable quote that referred to me! Not at all,If your mode of interpretation is about the subject of discus(that God tolerates and permits homosexual acts) then i am right to say so! No pun intended! Its not necessarily about being fancy! If you say,unequivocally and emphatically, that God permits homosexual acts,its would also imply that you are suggesting,without any doubt, that our God loves,tolerates and likes homosexual acts...no? Trying haplessly to regurgitate or recapitulate a rancid axiom only proves you are hysterical and obviously rattled! Your unvarying usage of 'strawman mining' claptrap won't spontaneously make you sound inferential! Finally,if indeed your thread was about an ad infinitum display of personal or external hypothesis,then the ultimate purpose of this thread would have been subjugated long ago! May i remind you that you had unambiguously boasted during early days of this thread that you had eye popping scriptures that will,in your words,blow the mind of the readers and clear their notion about the discus! This was your standpoint ab initio....so why are you making it seem like am painting a different picture from what you had presented before now? The underlying admission which you will never divulge or acknowledge is that,all along,you NEVER had a scripture to back your hurriedly gathered assumptions! Truth they say is like eating bitter leaf,it must first disfigure your face before it sinks in! Deal with it! 3 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:15pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
Shepherd00:You call yourself a believer, and you don't what is the destination, the end, hmm? Shepherd00:I just couldn't believe you asked it Shepherd00:Have you stopped lying then, white lies and all Shepherd00:True though, isn't it Shepherd00:I brought it up, to emphasise that gays, have always being a minorities group from time immemorial, they haven't affected the procreation scheme of things. They haven't ever been a threat to anyone or anybody. They don't hate but are hated Shepherd00:You really think so. Not that I didn't know. But I've just checked them and they are intact and alright Shepherd00 Shepherd00:What I tried to pass on, is if the for the sake of argument, defective human beings. Who happen to be gays, are now after the Calvary victory permitted to approach God, even be baptised, just as the eunuch got baptised by Stephen. There is no more any condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus Shepherd00 Shepherd00:Do you really think, I didn't think it properly through before advancing that scripture, hmm? Shepherd00:You are taking the piss and having a laugh 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:20pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
openmine:Does "force it" mean or imply openmine, hmm? Stick to title heading of this thread and stop this your strawman mining crap already |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 1:34pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Those ones had physical deformities (Defects) Are you affirming that God could not and cannot use homosexuals becos they are deformed sexually? MuttleyLaff:CEV1 Corinthians 6:9-10 "Don't you know that evil people won't have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? Don't fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual will share in God's kingdom Neither will any thief or greedy person or drunkard or anyone who curses and cheats others". No, it's not about homosexuality in totally. It's about the Kingdom of God and those who will not enter into it based on their SINS. Verse 9 says, [b] do not fool yourself MuttleyLaff, no immoral (Fornicator), or idol worshipper or unfaithful in marriage (Adulterer), or a ~~~pervert person who behaves like homosexual~~~ will enter into the Kingsom of God. MuttleyLaff, Why will God reject homosexuals access into His Kingdom if He is okay with their Acts? The context here fly over your head. MuttleyLaff:You are the one needing the Holy Spirit here because, no scripture you posted holds water. Pls post them here and explain them within context. MuttleyLaff:Are you assuming the context or it's there for all to see? because, I can't see Temple Prostitution or sex orgies in the context of Lev.18:20 MuttleyLaff:So indeed homosexuality is a ritual sex to a god albeit a different sort? Hmmm MuttleyLaff:And Leviticus 18:20 underlies this? Pls post the premise. MuttleyLaff:Yes, before the Israelites took over the land of Canaan, these things prevailed, but these were the same things that YHWH said provoked Him to cast the evil people out of the land. Leviticus 18:24-25 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. That is the context of Lev.18 from 1 all through to the end. The activities mentioned were the things which if anyone does, the Long anger shall be visited on. Leviticus 18:29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. MuttleyLaff homosexuality is one of the abominations mentioned here, where then did the Bible record a different kind of homosexuality than this? Besides, of all the abominations, only homosexuality earns one a death sentence, why? MuttleyLaff:What I see so far is that, homosexuality has its roots in satanism. It's a demonic Spirit. MuttleyLaff:Why do you call them illusions? And, If it was okay with YHWH, why did he commanded that anyone amongst His people who engaged in them be killed? MuttleyLaff:So, God was against the part where it's done in the temple as a ritual to their god as a form worship, but was okay with it if it was done HOW and WHERE? MuttleyLaff, going by what you just explained, hasn't it been clear to you that anal sex is Satan's pattern of sex, just like Hetero-sex is of God? Can't you see it that satan mimics God in everything? Hetero-sex within marriage is a form of worship to God, because when we do it, he blesses us with children to fulfill his mandate 'Go into the world and Multiply'. Anal sex is just pleasure, nothing else. Satan gives nothing to anyone hence his pattern of sex. MuttleyLaff:What do you mean by 'Certain homosexual acts? How many types of homosexual acts are mentioned in the Bible? And yes, hetero-sex outside of marriage was also mentioned as sin, what's your point? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Shepherd00: 1:48pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Talking abt pettiness, I think you shd look at the mirror. You call those facts? They testify against you Muttley. MuttleyLaff:No, you didn't. You ended up trailing the root or the origin of homosexuality which was a ritualistic sex worship to satan. And, you said God hates that type, but are yet to say which type He approves. MuttleyLaff:I don't beat people. I'm only interested in the Gospel Truth. MuttleyLaff:In other words, 'read and append?' E no go work like that. Plenty error full inside am. MuttleyLaff:Sorry man, again, you failed. MuttleyLaff:Na you sabi. See how i cut one of you post into 3? it makes it easier to respond to. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by TV01(m): 1:48pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
I will respond in “themes” to what is a mish-mash of assertions, half-truths and outright lies sauced with lashing of emotional appeal. It really is a steaming hot mess and almost sullies one to give it attention, but having started, I will - by His grace – see it through. First the anecdotal cum appeal to emotion ploy; MuttleyLaff:MuttleyLaffs emotional appeal via this scripted homily about a 3 year old identifying as “gay”, is TBH quite pathetic – and unlikely to be true. But whether it is or not, is it scripture? Do we re-base our whole scriptural understanding or moral framework, due to a sob-story? How does a 3 year old grasp matters of sexual function/expression? The developmental pathway for sexuality has not fully kicked in, the hormones are not yet circulating, yet his family agreed with a self-diagnosed “gayness” at 3 years old. Where were social services? Second, the “follow-on” assertion, typically following a reading of scripture MuttleyLaff:Here MuttlryLaff, presents scripture relating to The Lords mentioning of Eunuchs. All well and good. Then, without breaking stride, asserts that what applies to eunuchs also applies to “gayness”. Without any evidence or an explanatory prologue . Not only is this not attested to by scripture, as I’ve previously stated, science does not affirm this assertion. And even if science did, it would not mean it was any less a sin. Even if SSA is natal, it does not mean it is a good thing. Most men are born with the desire to sow their seed as widely as possible, does that make the urge holy? MuttlleyLaff is attempting to employ scripture about men not having sex to prove that scripture affirms same-sex activity. Laughable but criminally so ! Third, claim to knowing the mind of God in a way that not only blasphemes God, but upends 2 thousand years of Christian orthodoxy (and implicates The Most High for allowing SSA people to suffer all this time) MuttleyLaff:Here ML makes an assertion not following a reference to scripture, but one to God Himself (a kind of variation of #2). Asserting - “by extension” with no evidence or scriptura back-up - that because of God’s foreknowledge, therefore it was part of God’s plan and an actual element of God’s design? A behaviour the scripture shows as one that true believers will be delivered/washed from (1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:10). A behaviour the scripture describes as against nature and contrary to function (Romans 1). In that case MuttleyLaff, you are “by extension” claiming that the institution of marriage was designed for SS couples are you not. Although scripture fails to mention, foreshadow or present a positive archetype for relationships of this kind. If the above is true, then your notions of hetero and homo as distinct types given by God is true. Therefore, when the bible calls out sexual sins, it needn't make specific reference to homosexuality. Simply mentioning fornication and adultery would suffice. Your logic is incohenrent, our doctrine is not joined up and your reasoning is not end-to-end. You are a campaigner, an advocate, specifically a homosexualist. Which is why your arguments parallel those used by the world - homoweb miner . Still on Romans 1. Firstly, it is only from verse 18 that the tone turns to one of the unrighteousness and ungodliness of men. Then, the trajectory is clear. 1. God and His attributes can be clearly seen and understood – no excuses 2. Not only did men deny and rebel, they exchange His glory and truth 3. Therefore God gave them up -to uncleanness and lusts – leading to a dishonouring of their bodies 4. Leading inexorably to a exchange of the natural use of their sexual function for one that is against nature and dysfunctional (gayhomosex)! 5. That then moving to utterly erase God ffrom their consciousness leads to them being given over and filled with all unrighteousness 6. And the resulting judgement – if they don’t repent - will be on them and those who support them. There is no mention, alignment or reference too, or with, ritual sex rites or temple prostitution. Unless of course one is given to baseless assertions. This is about the very thing verse 18 opens with – the wrath of God against “all” Ungodliness and unrighteousness – not just specific (and nowhere defined in this portion of scripture) temple or ritual sex sins. Bonus An abomination is something that makes a believer (ritually) unclean or defiled. Homosex or endorsing homosex will do that everytime. Either way, don't be fooled - be delivered, be washed. TV 6 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 2:07pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: I always knew you would dump the main issue of scrutiny and dabble into unnecessary and inessential talks that have no bearing on the discus at hand in order for you to temporarily get yourself out of jail! This is the foundation of your thread: in simple terms,you want to PROVE that God loves,tolerates and allows homosexual acts USING SCRIPTURES! right? But What did you do? You ended up displaying submissions without a single scripture...You uproariously pulled out a verse from Matthew 19:12 that was palpably referring to "eunuchs" but you thought it wise to vivaciously and blatantly slide in the homosexual tag into that verse! Not done with your glibness and increasingly rattled stance while gasping for air,you uneasily and hesitatingly hoisted an unconnected and rambling scripture in Romans 8:1-2 which finally confirmed my thoughts all along that your asseveration had little or no scriptural inclination! I laugh in tongues! Your evasive maneuverings are so predictable and unsurprising....from not offering a single scripture to excessive name tags and finally to repetitive psychobabble! Is that all you can muster? 4 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by TV01(m): 6:01pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
One feels like he is cleaning out the Augean stables here - a mile high pile of homosexualist excrement. Below is a response to post 2 of MuttleyLaffs fantasy delusion posted earlier . MuttleyLaff:A pointless and scripturally unattested assertion, and questionable piece of information. A believer should have zero tolerance towards sin which is "...reproach to a nation". Specifically the type which defiles a person and pollutes the land, potentially leading to a "vomiting"...judgement! MuttleyLaff:The abominable nature of ss intimacy is repeated throughout the bible. OT, NT. Clearly enunciated within in the biblical narrative. Scripture repeatedly referenced and exegeted here. MuttleyLaff:Per 2 above. Meanwhile, feel free to show the board where God said he loves "homosexuality or homosexual acts. For bonus points, please show us where God confirms the distinction between, yet equivalence of, "heterosexual" and "homosexual" relationships, and/or how the He instituted the marriage institution for both opposite and same sex couples. For yet more reward points, please show us how ss couples cleave to one another . MuttleyLaff:Something I pointed out on this thread earlier. Whatever the rendering of the words used to describe the acts, the acts themselves are clearly condemned . MuttleyLaff:Learned friend, please demonstrate it, kindly evidence it from scripture. Scholarly nwanne, assertions, no matter how strenuous or repeated, are not evidence . MuttleyLaff:On the contrary, the use of these words by Paul attest to a blanket condemnation of any form of homosexual activity. And relatining it to the prohibitions on Leviticus - which were themselves universal - and unambiguously so - makes the case all the more. MuttleyLaff:Sin grading is not the point of this discussion and merely a ruse by you - and a clear flaw in your argument. No one argues that lies are acceptable to God, which is what you assert with regards to ss acts. MuttleyLaff:God did not create heterosexual or homosexual categories of person. God created humans sexed male & female, and with a complimentary sexual function. "Homosexual" is merely a social euphemism for dysfunction, and "heterosexual" is an attempt to present that dysfunction as a natural/normal option. That is the deceitful narrative presented by the world. The scriptures - the word of our Creator - clearly states otherwise. MuttleyLaff:Cultural context and historical understanding certainly help, however, they don't advance your case in this instance. MuttleyLaff:In a very limited sense you are right here - the do not talk specifically about consensual ss acts - they are a blanket condemnation of all ss acts. MuttleyLaff:Sodomite 0, catamite 0, rent boy 0, whatever. The prohibition is against all acts of a ss nature. Your attempt to find cause for a certain kind fails woefully. Flat on your face buddy . MuttleyLaff:And the words Paul coined in Greek reflect the Hebrew words used to utterly condemn it in Leviticus.. MuttleyLaff:The term is clearly capturing men in the bed, something of a relflection of the Hebrew verse which states that "the marriage bed is undefiled". Here any bed shared by ss couples is abominable. It was a blanket condemnation and universal prohibition of what is an abominable, depraved, detestable and defiling act. Period. TV 5 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 7:04pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: I am surprised some people who claim to know Christ are trying to justify Spiritual depravity in the name of liberalism. I do not intend to argue any case here as the Scriptures is clear and unambiguous when it comes to homosexuality and bestiality. Homosexuality: Lev 18:22: "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them." Bestiality: Deu 27:21: "Cursed be he that lies with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen." Lev 18:23: "Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion." Lev 20:15: "And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and you shall slay the beast." Lev 20:16: "And if a woman approach to any beast, and lie down thereto, you shall kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them." I see no conditionalities attached to this: I don't know whether the word RAPE or CONSENSUAL is attached to these Scriptures. My bro! Homosexuality is a sickness at the same level with Paedophiles, Bestiality, Frotteurism, Sexual masochism and Sexual sadism. It is better the sick person go for Deliverance rather than making excuses to justify that which is an abomination before God! SIN is SIN! You can't excuse it away! 4 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:31pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
shadeyinka:[img]https://s2/images/davidoMutt.gif[/img] You have grossly misunderstood Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 brother. You dont need to argue anything, I wasnt requiring you to argue anything. I am just presenting facts, the least you can do, is fact check. Fact check each and all I have so far typed, just like a Berean and a good student of 2 Timothy 2:15 will do. I wont be surprised, if you haven't also misunderstood what Paul wrote and what Paul was saying in Romans Chapter 1, along with 1 Timothy 1:10 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 and so thereby wrongly say things Paul was not at all saying. Just watch, as I respond individually to the recent comments TV01, Shepherd00 and openmine have just made immediately above. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 7:43pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I just got mentioned by you on this post and am hoping your upcoming response to me should be accompanied with scriptures to defend your shaky and somewhat rattled stance! For the umpteenth time,Show with scriptures where homosexual acts are permissible,tolerated and condoned by God! This is the only play you have right now! 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 7:53pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I know you have written volumes on this issue and the argument that homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned on the Greek. No problem! HOWEVER, Please, look at the two Scriptures below of man having sex with a man as with a woman and tell me it isn't refering to homosexuality? Homosexuality: Lev 18:22: "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them." 5 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:10pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
shadeyinka:Thank you very much for at least having the decency to admit and acknowledge that I have written volumes on the issue and the Now, having said that, you are very correct that homosexuality wasn't specifically mentioned on the Greek, and this for the reason that, if Paul had wanted to use the Greek words for homosexuality, he had 17 words to choose from, but he never used any of them because he wasnt talking, never talked and wasnt interested in talking about homosexuality or consensual adults in a faithful, caring, loving until death do them apart etctera same sex relationship. Now shadeyinka, regarding you latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, please kindly visit the below link, and read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update. https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/5#79120678 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:16pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: I think my question is very simple and straightforward, are the two Scriptures refering to Homosexuality? The answer should be either YES or NO! Then, we can proceed from that point. The Scriptures again: Homosexuality: Lev 18:22: "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them." 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
shadeyinka:That is and was a non question shadeyinka. It is a question you are asking, to which the answer is so clear that it's not worth asking, especially after, I have advised you shadeyinka, since you were latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, to please kindly visit the above link I pasted, and to read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update and for getting a proper perspective of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Besides, I have in many sections, on this thread, deconstructed the myth(s) and lies perpetrated with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered, but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating, the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:38pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I read your link and it doesn't say anything related to my question. It is a Scripture study isn't it? I did honestly read your link. Hence, my question is very important. My question is very simple and straightforward, are the two Scriptures refering to Homosexuality? The answer should be either YES or NO! Then, we can proceed from that point. The Scriptures again: Homosexuality: Lev 18:22: "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them." 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:45pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
shadeyinka:Dare I ask, what simply and straightforwardly was my answer to your "very simple and straightforward question" hmm? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:54pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I think you are deliberately being evasive about this. If you feel the translation is wrong, I'll like to know. The answer is a simple YES or NO! I'll be willing to know the reason behind your choice. Thank you! |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 9:01pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
shadeyinka:"That is and was a non question shadeyinka. You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered, but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating, the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No." Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Jun 04 2019 Just leave me jaare and carry go jor, you arent serious and you're a time-waster cum precious time killer 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 9:26pm On Jun 08, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I would plead that you don't get angry with me. Some of us are not that knowledgeable in deep Scriptures and when we ask questions that look naive, you have to pardon our simplicity. I am happy that you have taken a position: " that the Scriptures in Lev18:22 and Lev20:13 do not refer to homosexuality"! Homosexuality: Lev 18:22: "You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Lev 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination : they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them." What else do you think the Scriptures mean by "lie with a man as with a woman"? Definition: Homosexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is "an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions" to people of the same sex. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by kkins25(m): 6:42pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
Shepherd00: You were crying foir his response. Now he has dropped it nd u say its cumbersome Muttleylaff, after all your effort ,they say your poost is full of cum...too bad 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:24pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
kkins25: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASM6AfzXMvc Dont mind him jaare, thats how You dont know these guys like I do. I know everything about each and everyone of them. I know how they think, know how and what they breathe, know when and how they sleep, know what they eat, know when and how they like eating, know when they fart and shiit, know the color of their shiits sef I kept telling and reminding them that, I not only, mounted this dragon beast, rode and tamed it, but I also, slayed it too, then after killing it, I dissected it, to find out what the dragon beast's been feeding on, and that this is how I got to know, with the help of the Holy Spirit, so much about this subject matter and them too. I was waiting for each of them round the corner. You see, in situations like this, you bide your time, smoke people out, draw them into the open, then either get hold of them with the belt of their trousers or get a wrist hold of them and/or pin them down so they dont have any easy chance to escape or try to evade capture. Going for the jugular, would be a last resort. I deliberately stopped myself from replying to the three musketeers individual last posts done before yours because I wanted them to stew. I wanted the impact of what I've so far typed, sink and settle in. I have the replies to their last posts done but sitting on my MAC My gloves are still on, imagine the damage I would inflict, if I were to take off my gloves. I also have being holding back myself, and just being throwing half punches, hitting them with kid gloves and not forceful ones I said it before, that I have gunpowder and loads of ammo ready and more than enough to face the Battle of Armageddon 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by AngelicBeing: 7:46pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Hahaha, Lol at you have gunpowder ready to face the battle of Armageddon 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:15pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
AngelicBeing:None of these guys would know what hit them, as they dont know what colour of bird, in my pocket, I am gradually pulling out. Besides, I havent even started on any of them yet. Is it the one whose dedication was spamming the thread with his strawman mining, and asking me to show him where in the Bible, God permits homosexual acts or where God loves, tolerates and likes homosexual acts etcetera. Or the one finding long posts challenging to read, or even is it, the one with his fraudulent replies to my lengthy 3-section long post, whose greatest enemy isn’t ignorance, but is his illusion of knowledge. Oh Shadeyinka, I havent replied to you because, I was just giving you time enough to properly going over the thread, so you can be up-to-date with what so far all along has being written to the thread 2 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:17pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Didn't I tell you that I read your long post? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:31pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
shadeyinka:"That is and was a non question shadeyinka. It is a question you are asking, to which the answer is so clear that it's not worth asking, especially after, I have advised you shadeyinka, since you were latching on to Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, to please kindly visit the above link I pasted, and to read the bottom half for a quick "bring you" update and for getting a proper perspective of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. Besides, I have in many sections, on this thread, deconstructed the myth(s) and lies perpetrated with Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13. You wouldnt have asked that question, if only, you had dutifully visited that link I volunteered, but never mind and in order of me, not to be accused of prevaricating, the answer to your "very simple and straightforward question", very simply and straightforwardly is an obvious big fat No." - Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:26pm On Jun 08 shadeyinka, we've being round here before nau. Do you remember the above inverted commas quote and what I told you? OK, you read my long post, but you obviously didnt read it to see where I had already touched on the question(s) you were asking me about. To be honest with you, I only changed my mind from going to ignore you and switched to, will indulge you because of how you lowered your tone. Remember that I accused you of not being serious and that you're a time-waster cum precious time killer? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 8:47pm On Jun 09, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: You are just a typical noise maker! You are bragging and boasting yet you are sadly unable to give out just one scripture to affirm and strengthen your stance rather its taking you ages to reply a simple question that seems like a bone blocked your throat! I don't care if it takes you next year to hilariously compile your response to me...I will be waiting here unmoved and unshaken! Mr MuttleyLaff,once again,I challenge you to reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits,tolerates and love homosexual acts! No stories! no evasion! no plenty talk! 1 Like |
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