SocialJustice:
Everything, because if you have heard or read about Him in the Bible which I am sure you have, you will know He is not constrained by physical laws. If He says white is black, white becomes black in obedience. Our universe and existence only exists for His pleasure and He manipulates it at His will.

Good so you didn't need all that rigmarole in the first place.

Now to the main reason I asked this question, have witnessed anything that defied the laws of nature? If you have what was it?

johnydon22:
No, I am not. You asked a question based on this assumption;

1. God exist.

My answers should be in coincide to your question or would you have me start arguing the existence of God on a thread that has nothing to do with it?

I was only pulling your legs johny.

Is your question about real life events or the logicality behind the idea that God can change natural laws at a whim?

Because if we follow your question, the answer is; Yes, God can alter the laws of physics as we know them.
(This is based on a fundamental assumption that God exists for this particular question)

In part yes the locality of the idea but more I want to know if there is anyone who has witnessed such a thing.

vaxx:
You love asking illogical questions and this is one of them.


Unintelligent as usual.....

LoL go and sleep you are tired.

Ihedinobi3:

The very meaning of the term "God" is the answer to your question.

That which is God/Deity/Divine is transcendent over all nature, that is, over matter, time, and space.

Good so have you witnessed such a thing? If you have what was it?

LordReed:


Good so you didn't need all that rigmarole in the first place.

Now to the main reason I asked this question, have witnessed anything that defied the laws of nature? If you have what was it?

I've seen a bee fly, I'm sure you have too.

LordReed:


I was only pulling your legs johny.



In part yes the logicality of the idea but more I want to know if there is anyone who has witnessed such a thing.

If logically, then Yes. Conceptually God can.

LordReed:


Good so have you witnessed such a thing? If you have what was it?

johnydon22 . Can you now see the Op validate my point. He is now asking for human perspective about the changes.....

vaxx:
johnydon22 . Can you now see the Op validate my point. He is now asking for human perspective about the changes.....

Now he has left the original premise his OP raised.

johnydon22:


Now he has left the original premise his OP raised.

Thank Satan. you are aware?

It is well known that God can defy the laws of nature,so what's the point of your question

SocialJustice:
I've seen a bee fly, I'm sure you have too.

What is special about a bee flying? Don't tell you believe that myth that says scientist are surprised that the bee can fly cos that is fake news.

tartar9:
It is well known that God can defy the laws of nature,so what's the point of your question

Have you witnessed such a phenomenon? If you have what was it?

johnydon22:


Now he has left the original premise his OP raised.

This was going to be the point of my thread. I didn't open it to argue if thats what you think.

LordReed:


Have you witnessed such a phenomenon? If you have what was it?

I really don't know...whatever miraculous experience I may have experienced can always be explained away

LordReed:


What is special about a bee flying? Don't tell you believe that myth that says scientist are surprised that the bee can fly cos that is fake news.

Yeah you're right, bees are not special. I haven't had any special encounter but God walked on water.

SocialJustice:
Yeah you're right, bees are not special. I haven't had any special encounter but God walked on water.

Lmao

tartar9:

I really don't know...whatever miraculous experience I may have experienced can always be explained away

Thanks for being honest.

LordReed:
Or can your god do things that completely defy the laws as we know them?

my dad was healed of hypertensive heart disease . I saw the medical report with my two eyes, one night, he sang song of worship and praise to God until he fell asleep, he dream that he was vomiting , the nest morning he claim his healing. weeks later he went for medical check up and behold the disease wasn't there .

nature is speaking to you atheist, is against you. atheists will want Genesis 1:1 say in the beginning it's JUST HAPPENED . if its not Miracle , is it wise to believed " it just happened" ?

Yes God obey the laws of nature.

What if the super magic God did in the Bible are actually natural phenomena?

malvisguy212:
my dad was healed of hypertensive heart disease . I saw the medical report with my two eyes, one night, he sang song of worship and praise to God until he fell asleep, he dream that he was vomiting , the nest morning he claim his healing. weeks later he went for medical check up and behold the disease wasn't there .

nature is speaking to you atheist, is against you. atheists will want Genesis 1:1 say in the beginning it's JUST HAPPENED . if its not Miracle , is it wise to believed " it just happened" ?

What exactly did he have, hypertension or heart disease caused by hypertension?

LordReed:


What exactly did he have, hypertension or heart disease caused by hypertension?

high BP

malvisguy212:
high BP

So no heart complications just high blood pressure?

LordReed:


So no heart complications just high blood pressure?

the drug the doctor proscribe for him, he cannot do anything without it, and it very costly. there was a day he stubbornly refuse to take it, we though he had died.

malvisguy212:
the drug the doctor proscribe for him, he cannot do anything without it, and it very costly. there was a day he stubbornly refuse to take it, we though he had died.

What did the medical report say?

LordReed:


What did the medical report say?

it about 3years ago. since then my dad has never visited the hospital.

if you are in Kaduna during the religious crisis, and you are in the refugee camp, bro, you will never be an atheist.

Interesting question, although taken too deep into advanced philosophy and physics by vaax, a guy ive missed on the religion section.
I suppose you , lordreed actually intended to say can God
****make a limbless man grow limbs?
**** turn water into wine?
Etc.
When it comes to God, according to the several authentic "SOURCES" : jesus the Son of God who is not God but is God, whom died as a sacrifice to himself so that he, jesus who is also God could forgive us our Heavenly sins(which are really just animal behaviours) once upon a time transfor!ed pure water into the most delicious of wines.

This is just one example amongst multiples of multiple.

Modification

Just like vaax has appropriately sayed, it depends on the initial frame of reference or the perspectives of the society or scientist..
Just to entertain the thought, If God can work on water, well if God was comprised of matter similar to us with no special modification to his density(since he has super powers). Then we could say he broke the laws(from our human perspective)..

If someone like tb joshua can turn water to wine, them boy oh boy thay would be well suited for your OP.

kkins25:
Interesting question, although taken too deep into advanced philosophy and physics by vaax, a guy ive missed on the religion section.
I suppose you , lordreed actually intended to say can God
****make a limbless man grow limbs?
**** turn water into wine?
Etc.
When it comes to God, according to the several authentic "SOURCES" : jesus the Son of God who is not God but is God, whom died as a sacrifice to himself so that he, jesus who is also God could forgive us our Heavenly sins(which are really just animal behaviours) once upon a time transfor!ed pure water into the most delicious of wines.

This is just one example amongst multiples of multiple.

Modification

Just like vaax has appropriately sayed, it depends on the initial frame of reference or the perspectives of the society or scientist..
Just to entertain the thought, If God can work on water, well if God was comprised of matter similar to us with no special modification to his density(since he has super powers). Then we could say he broke the laws(from our human perspective)..

If someone like tb joshua can turn water to wine, them boy oh boy thay would be well suited for your OP.

I wasnt really focused on the philosophical side of this, I more wanted what believers have experienced, the things they attribute to a god which we would say defy the laws of nature. Regrowing a limb doesn't exactly defy the laws of nature cos certain animals can regrow limbs. Walking on water or transmutation without significant energy expense would fit the bill more.

malvisguy212:
it about 3years ago. since then my dad has never visited the hospital.

if you are in Kaduna during the religious crisis, and you are in the refugee camp, bro, you will never be an atheist.

Hmmm interesting. Just make sure he keeps up a healthy life style.

What happened in the refugee camps?

LordReed:


I wasnt really focused on the philosophical side of this, I more wanted what believers have experienced, the things they attribute to a god which we would say defy the laws of nature. [b]Regrowing a limb doesn't exactly defy the laws of nature cos certain animals can regrow limbs. [/b]Walking on water or transmutation without significant energy expense would fit the bill more.

We are not talking about certain animals are we? After all certain animals like the water spider literally walks on water.

kkins25:

We are not talking about certain animals are we? After all certain animals like the water spider literally walks on water.

Ah yes I almost forgot. So yeah maybe scratch walking on water then.

LordReed:


Hmmm interesting. Just make sure he keeps up a healthy life style.

What happened in the refugee camps?

in the refugee camp, many people give the same testimony how God save there life, they pass in front of the Hausa Muslims without being notice. there was a woman who went for evangelism when the crisis broke out, at the midst of this killers she pass and they did not see her. my dad was at home when they enter our house, if they burn our house , its will affect our neighbor ( who are all Muslims) so instead they pack our property out, but you know the funniest thing ? my dad was sitting and watching them, but they did not see him . he stand up from were he was sitting , immediately they saw the sit were he was sitting , they saw the sit and take it out, burn it together with the rest property.

this is something only God could do, what about. those Christians that lost their life ? why God did not save them ? I believed God knows those that are his own. if you had experience deadly crisis, I tell you the truth, you will not doubt the miraculous power of God.

malvisguy212:
in the refugee camp, many people give the same testimony how God save there life, they pass in front of the Hausa Muslims without being notice. there was a woman who went for evangelism when the crisis broke out, at the midst of this killers she pass and they did not see her. my dad was at home when they enter our house, if they burn our house , its will affect our neighbor ( who are all Muslims) so instead they pack our property out, but you know the funniest thing ? my dad was sitting and watching them, but they did not see him . he stand up from were he was sitting , immediately they saw the sit were he was sitting , they saw the sit and take it out, burn it together with the rest property.

this is something only God could do, what about. those Christians that lost their life ? why God did not save them ? I believed God knows those that are his own. if you had experience deadly crisis, I tell you the truth, you will not doubt the miraculous power of God.

Interesting, not really in the ballpark of what I was looking for but interesting none the less.