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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by kolmart: 11:04am On Jun 09, 2019
Let be sincere their noises here and there is constituting nuisance to the public, where in the Bible our Lord Jesus Christ using loudspeaker, even in America where we borrowed the religion you can't see them disturb other people with noise still they fair better than Nigeria. Let whoever wish to worship his God do it silently. Even the bible said whatever your right hand does you should not allow the left know. Let's keep on praying silent our God is not deaf

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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by maasoap(m): 11:08am On Jun 09, 2019
Destiny34:
Islam is a curse!

People who make vile statements like yours are the real curse to any society. I hope you agree

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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by truehero(m): 11:11am On Jun 09, 2019
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SMH for this CAN of hypocrites

US has laws regulating Religion

UK has laws regulating Religion

Israel has laws Regulating Religion

but bring such to backward Africa and watch them turn it to something to fight about

Yes we have Freedom of speech, however if you say any treasonable anti national word, you are guilty of a capital crime, if you use your speech to tarnish other peoples images you are guilty of Libel or defamation, If you use speech to decieve people for gratification or money you are guilty of fruad.

We have Freedom of Religion and Association, however if an Imam wakes up one morning and calls for the killing of people who dont share his faith, then we need a law that would postulate apporpraite punishment for him

Most of this Ignorant Biased Hypocrite havent even read a copy of the proposed law

Anyways even Jesus said "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven".




Bad analogy


now listen to yourself. you mentioned
Israel
US
UK
are those countries predominantly Islamic? Down home, Islam and Christianity is at per and that such laws will always create acrimony.
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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by ollah2: 11:14am On Jun 09, 2019
Isinweke:



You must be an Ignoramus

The people of Southern Kaduna have been slaughtered by El-Rufai backed jihadist for long, what have been done about it?
Why didn't you say anything about politicians implementing Islamic laws into our system.

prevention is better than cure, when you know the outcome of something you have to fight it first,

It's either you're a Muslim or you're Ignorant of how they practice Islamic religion up North, like I said, El-Rufai is a religious bigot.

I know El-Rufai more than any other governor in Nigeria, he is religious and ethnic bigot
Elrufai destroyed our house in Abuja, Destroyed houses belonging to Christians in Abuja, even Edo Muslims, Elrufai claimed he wanted to develop there but he systematically single out the houses of Southerners in the rural parts of Abuja and destroyed them, he didn't touch the houses of the Northern Muslims all over their. When I went back their after 10 years later I discovered all these.


EL-RUFAI IS A CROOK.

I'm an atheist, I hate religion both Christianity and Islam.
I'm saying this because I know El-Rufai has another thing in mind, MR. MAN... YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NIGERIA UNLESS YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE!



Mr man, relax and quit spreading your bigoted statements like a dog on heat. Crises in Kaduna predates El Rufai and most crises have been religious crises which has claimed the lives and properties of both muslims and christians. Your christians always love claiming victims of every incident, you are claiming southern residents are killed by northern residents. You are claiming this rule is targeted at christians. You are claiming el rufai is a religious bigot all these without any proof to back it up. You lots are the worst set of intolerant bigot to ever exist

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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by ollah2: 11:21am On Jun 09, 2019
truehero:
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Kaduna is said to be shared by muslims and christians equally and this rule is for every religion in Kaduna which also include traditionalists, why are you guys the only ones crying? You wil cry cry and cry every freaking time, don't you get tired of wailing?

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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by AkataYeriYeri: 11:21am On Jun 09, 2019
Kyase:

Me too
Mosques too plenty for this side, dem need to reduce them, their noise early morning no dey sweet me at all...
You’re deceiving yourself if you think this bill will affect Muslims .
How many Muslims go around to disturb people in the guise of preaching
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Danwakae(m): 11:25am On Jun 09, 2019
PrecisionFx:


That commission they set-up is still a government institute.

Not completely , cos it's still members from NASFAT, JAmat ul..., CAN, PFN, that would held the commission, that's the best, just imagine the issue btw Gov. Ganduje and Emir SANUSI. By the time u give the demi god Govs. the power our Imams and Bishops r finish, cos they would be afraid to speak the truth...

Imagine the case of Imam Lima that scenario, the commission is better if govt, must check activities of religions.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by CodeTemplar: 11:28am On Jun 09, 2019
Kyase:

Me too
Mosques too plenty for this side, dem need to reduce them, their noise early morning no dey sweet me at all...
Is it a bill to regulate preaching or prayers? That's how they outsmart Christians. Preaching is done mostly be Christians publicly. Prayer and teaching isn't same as public preaching or evangelism. Get it.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by kpansia: 11:29am On Jun 09, 2019
This CAN sef! Why do they always cry wolf! As a Muslim familiar with Kaduna, the law should favour Christians more. I expect JNI to be the one complaining and not CAN.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by francisco327: 11:29am On Jun 09, 2019
Lanretoye:
when you be expecting important visitor then some jobless people will knock and be like 'we came to introduce God to you'
you will surely die and go to hell very soon....
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by lookgoodingguy: 11:29am On Jun 09, 2019
Igbobyblood:
same way mosque's in the south should be destroy.
We don't want Muslims and their terrorism

Go and destroy them let's see na
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Teejay13(m): 11:33am On Jun 09, 2019
I think GOV El rufai Should have the heard of people at the back of his mind when taking decisions
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Nobody: 11:35am On Jun 09, 2019
At least number of mosques will reduce in campuses in Kaduna and also roadside.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Kyase(m): 11:36am On Jun 09, 2019
Mystiquefia:


I dey tell you. I thank heavens Nigerias are beginning to reason logically and pragmatically on these issues. To hell with dogmatism
cheesy
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Kyase(m): 11:38am On Jun 09, 2019
Mutemenot:


You get luck say na mosque ..for.my area we no dey hear word for day, night vigil na almost everyday.
Hahhahahaha...
Virgil own dey pain sha
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Kyase(m): 11:38am On Jun 09, 2019
danjumakolo:


Muslim prayer call in the morning is part of Islam.
Infact most xtians have taken it to be a sign that morning time has come.They use it to as their routine to start their day.Prayer call does not last one minute.
The good thing about it is that it serves as an alarm to me when I need to wake up early

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Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by netmillionaires(m): 11:57am On Jun 09, 2019
Oga please can I get the story of the woman who claim to hear from Allah?
I just want to check what it is all about.

Thanks.

tactius:


Now I know why the government is doing this...(especially with the events of a few years ago involving one woman who claimed to hear from Allah while her husband was making kudi...fortunately stopped)
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by femtex007(m): 11:58am On Jun 09, 2019
because they knew it will favour them
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Inteltower: 12:04pm On Jun 09, 2019
Lanretoye:
when you be expecting important visitor then some jobless people will knock and be like 'we came to introduce God to you'

so God isn't important in your life...
your blindness is as barren as the desert
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Nobody: 12:06pm On Jun 09, 2019
Danwakae:


Not completely , cos it's still members from NASFAT, JAmat ul..., CAN, PFN, that would held the commission, that's the best, just imagine the issue btw Gov. Ganduje and Emir SANUSI. By the time u give the demi god Govs. the power our Imams and Bishops r finish, cos they would be afraid to speak the truth...

Imagine the case of Imam Lima that scenario, the commission is better if govt, must check activities of religions.

Members of CAN or jamat should not be a part of any commission set up to regulate religion. They will influence it towards only a direction that will Favor dem. Government alone should control it.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Nobody: 12:08pm On Jun 09, 2019
Isinweke:



You must be an Ignoramus

The people of Southern Kaduna have been slaughtered by El-Rufai backed jihadist for long, what have been done about it?
Why didn't you say anything about politicians implementing Islamic laws into our system.

prevention is better than cure, when you know the outcome of something you have to fight it first,

It's either you're a Muslim or you're Ignorant of how they practice Islamic religion up North, like I said, El-Rufai is a religious bigot.

I know El-Rufai more than any other governor in Nigeria, he is religious and ethnic bigot
Elrufai destroyed our house in Abuja, Destroyed houses belonging to Christians in Abuja, even Edo Muslims, Elrufai claimed he wanted to develop there but he systematically single out the houses of Southerners in the rural parts of Abuja and destroyed them, he didn't touch the houses of the Northern Muslims all over their. When I went back their after 10 years later I discovered all these.


EL-RUFAI IS A CROOK.

I'm an atheist, I hate religion both Christianity and Islam.
I'm saying this because I know El-Rufai has another thing in mind, MR. MAN... YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT NIGERIA UNLESS YOU'RE A HYPOCRITE!


Den Christians in Kaduna should raise hell and kill more Muslims.





All these ur stories won't stop religious regulation in Nigeria, it's something that has come to stay and it will spread across Nigeria gradually.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by truehero(m): 12:13pm On Jun 09, 2019
Kaduna is said to be shared by muslims and christians equally and this rule is for every religion in Kaduna which also include traditionalists, why are you guys the only ones crying? You wil cry cry and cry every freaking time, don't you get tired of wailing?[/quote]


Thank you for confirming that kaduna is equally shared. What do you think will happen when a policy is intended to favour a particular section?
Elrufai's antecedence is when know to the reasonables.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Danwakae(m): 12:22pm On Jun 09, 2019
PrecisionFx:


Members of CAN or jamat should not be a part of any commission set up to regulate religion. They will influence it towards only a direction that will Favor dem. Government alone should control it.


Is the commisicom not under the fed. govt. ??, What does govt. knows about God ??, Is it thesame govt. that have no fear for God


If we allow govt. Then, govs. would become gods in their various states, just like what happened in Imo state, where Gov. Ikedim Ohakim slapped a Rev. Father because of his preachings, also where Gov. Ambode's wife slapped a pastor for not aknowledging her presence in the church as first lady....so many


Is govt. that are u yet to deliver on good governance that u want to give religion, aba, let the truth stand , religion is a personal issue, govt. Should not be part of it all, the danger would be during elections, where any preacher that fails to endorsed the incumbent risk being dismissed.
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by OGHENAOGIE(m): 12:32pm On Jun 09, 2019
sleekymag:
You guys don't know the law supports mosques to pray and make noise between 4am and 7am? That's why the Islamic cleric said they made their inputs into it. They have secured their own areas.
so why did can not go for the meeting to make their inputs too...
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by sulasa07(m): 12:33pm On Jun 09, 2019
Igbobyblood:
We know it's targeted at Christians
because dem too dey make noise
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by ibro1010(m): 12:34pm On Jun 09, 2019
Nawaoooo some comments is something else
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by iammo(m): 12:37pm On Jun 09, 2019
Danwakae:



Is the commisicom not under the fed. govt. ??, What does govt. knows about God ??, Is it thesame govt. that have no fear for God


If we allow govt. Then, govs. would become gods in their various states, just like what happened in Imo state, where Gov. Ikedim Ohakim slapped a Rev. Father because of his preachings, also where Gov. Ambode's wife slapped a pastor for not aknowledging her presence in the church as first lady....so many


Is govt. that are u yet to deliver on good governance that u want to give religion, aba, let the truth stand , religion is a personal issue, govt. Should not be part of it all, the danger would be during elections, where any preacher that fails to endorsed the incumbent risk being dismissed.

There is diference between Goverment and Governor. if a Governor abuses an already established law , the chur or mosque can proceed to other arms of Goverment to interpret the law, they can even pursue it till it reaches the supreme court. and there is no Governor begger than supreme court
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Almujahb(m): 12:38pm On Jun 09, 2019
Hmmm though the bil supos b sign into law but they should consider the maintainance to avoid been sentiment.wu ar d body dat wil regulate this office? Ar they those wu has comprehensive knowledge about the two books?(quran and bibble)if d answer is false pls ignore dis bill to avoid crisis and been acused of sentiment.
fergie001:
Religious bodies in Kaduna state have expressed divergent views on the passage of the bill to regulate preaching in the state.

The state house of assembly had, on Friday, passed the executive bill which was introduced in 2016.

Reacting to the development, Sunny Akanni, counsel to the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN), threatened to sue the state assembly for disobeying a court order restraining it from taking any action on the bill pending the determination of a suit before the state high court.

According to him, in March 2017, the PFN filed a suit against the bill on the grounds that it is offensive to fundamental human rights.

“We are surprised that despite the court order restraining the house from continuing with the hearing or anything on the controversial bill pending the determination of the matter, the lawmakers went ahead to pass it,” Akanni said.

“We are going to serve forms 47 and 48 on the house for disobedient of court order and if they don’t respond, we will charge the clerk and the speaker of the house for contempt of court.”

Similarly, the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) said it is studying the revised bill and will sue the state assembly if it is not satisfied with the provisions.

Joseph Hayab, state chairman of the association, urged Nasir el-Rufai, governor of the state, not to sign the bill in haste.

“We are going to test that bill in the court of law because we are in a democracy, people should not just bring laws from the back door,” he said.

“You don’t make laws with the intent of causing havoc, you make laws with the intent of helping people to unite. You don’t make laws and claiming that the purpose of the law is for peace but the law itself is used to cause crisis.

“We are stakeholders in nation building, but when people choose to treat us as if we don’t understand what is happening, then we have to show them that we also have a right.”

On the contrary, the state chapter of the Jama’atu Nasril Islam (JNI), applauded the bill, saying the Muslim body was given the opportunity to make input.

Yusuf Adamu, state secretary of the JNI, said anybody who will preach according to the books should not be afraid of the bill.

“We were given chance to make inputs. CAN and JNI were asked to make inputs. CAN refused to do anything, we (JNI) made our inputs and it was considered,” he said.

“So as far as I am concerned, you should have no reason to fear if you know you are going to preach according to the books.

“I think we should throw away sentiments and be objective. We were asked to make our comments (on the bill). If you refused to make your comments, you have no reason to complain.”

https://www.thecable.ng/can-kicks-but-jni-expresses-support-for-bill-to-regulate-preaching-in-kaduna
Re: Bill To Regulate Preaching In Kaduna: CAN Kicks As JNI Supports It by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jun 09, 2019
netmillionaires:
Oga please can I get the story of the woman who claim to hear from Allah?
I just want to check what it is all about.

Thanks.


Got the story on whatsapp...can't find it online. Ah well.

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