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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 12:28am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:This is incredible. SMH. Dont worry. I now understand, trust me, you go dey alright las las 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 12:28am On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum: Not my words but his |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 12:31am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Ohh no more response using your glorified dialect? I thought you were calling your legion of armies to save your already shattered ego? Calm and smiling while advocate MuttleyLaff is nervous,distraught, and edgy! |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 12:41am On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum:You do know what the subject title of this thread is, I believe, so desist from encouraging this person from deviating and/or derailing the topic otherwise I'll tell AngelicBeing on you. You know how he/she feels like pummelling you and you've probably had enough, so you wouldnt like more openmine:Are you just reading the glorified dialect on this thread ni? I interject it, whenever the mood sets me, and coupled with translations, so whats your problem with that? https://www.nairaland.com/5235137/cherrypicking-christians#79173336 I cc'ed Michellekabod2 as a fyi, nothing more, nothing less because she cc'ed me first and I noticed that you fitted to a tee, her "cherrypicking of christians " description, in her thread, the URL link which I've pasted as shown above 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by budaatum: 12:51am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Your juvenility is boundless! In case you have not noticed, the question to you was "What does scripture say God permits? It's rather late for a deconstruction on page 9 wouldn't you say? I guess this might be a day when brain is on leave. |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 1:01am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: what a sore bummer...! Acting like a draconian ruler! So how does it concern you if he agrees with my points? Your crass attitude when people tend to disagree with you line of thought while agreeing with others is disturbing and unfortunate! MuttleyLaff: Oga why are you trying so hard and fruitlessly to explain your mischievous ploy to involve some one to help defend your tremulous stance! I saw the many pips you cc'ed....If they don't come,will you drag them with a rope to make an input? The reason they haven't shown up is because your postulations are,at best,patchy and fragmentary without scriptures! This was what the other guy was trying to say when he agreed with my submissions before you authoritatively tried to shut him down! How would you say God permits homosexual acts without a single scripture that backs your claim..? When you give people a base to work on,they will contribute positively to this thread...so far you have done nothing to convince anyone that the scripture supports,allows and permits homosexual acts and that is the sad truth! MuttleyLaff:Bros be honest...that was one of your clownish schemes that ended up pretty badly..hence it was swiftly abandoned! You then went back to your tacky 'troll' claptrap....Hope you don't forget the "strawman mining" manoeuvre...it may come in handy for you! |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 1:13am On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum:Dont be daft budaatum, does the scripture say anything about you flying in aeroplanes, hmm? Does the scripture tell you about talking trains, buses and cars to work, hmmm? Does the scripture say God permits you to wear spectacles or sun shade glasses, huh? OK, let's flip it a bit, on the other side, this is what scripture says in Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Do you notice the Leviticus 20:13b part, hmm? Are you man enough to throw the first stone, hmm? Oh no, your balls suddenly have shrivelled up at the prospect of you having to stone to death your neighbour, a fellow man, human being like you now, huh? It seems like a good and right time to cherrypick parts of scripture , isnt it, hey? OK, here is another one, why don't you gouge out your eyes when you sinned (i.e. Matthew 5:29) hmm? Or here is a good one, why don't you stone non-virgins (i.e. Deuteronomy 22:20-21) ehn? I bet you, most posters on this thread including yourself and their missus' weren't virgins Ah, I've got more, plenty sef. Why do you wear clothing woven of two kinds of material (i.e. Leviticus 19:19) hey? Why do you eat catfish that has no fins and scales and other sea foods (i.e. Leviticus 9:10) erh? Why don't you give your other belongings, when you are sued in court (i.e. Matthew 5:40) In case you havent noticed budaatum, those on the flip side scriptures too, are things God permits and doesnt permit... I leave it there for you to cross the dots to see the big picture openmine:"Glory be to God. Thank you, thank you God. "Toba to asiko lati su, idi a la", loosely translated means, "when its time to shiit, yansh must give way" so let's put hand for chin, begin watch and read how you've answered the questions then" - Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:20am On Jun 07 I bet you dont recall me using the above dialect in PART 1 of my 3 parts post that was too long to upload in one whole. Like I previously said, I interject them as my mood sets, nothing about anything swiftly being abandoned. They usually are one liners, and infrequently used 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by budaatum: 1:29am On Jun 10, 2019 |
You are daft. You must have missed what I did to a Sexy Pair of Legs I saw kissing! You are daft not to notice that it isn't me you are to convince. And you are daft if you think diverting to me would enable you to divert from providing a response to those who've asked you for one! openmine was not asking what he should do to gay people, a response to which you've dribbled again below. His request, in case you've been missing it all along, was "reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!" MuttleyLaff: 4 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 1:39am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:When you are ready to feed your patchy,vivacious and chucklesome three part blague of a post with substantial scriptures,then you can gloat about it using your dialect! 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 2:25am On Jun 10, 2019 |
budaatum:You sure are now starting to behave as if like a blockhead. You that didnt read and defiantly declared wouldnt read what I posted, now has the audacity to poke his nose, stick his grubby fingers in my face and leave a knife in my back. My remit was to descontruct the lies & myth of consensual adult homosexuality/same Sex Union. What are the lies and myth?. They are based on falsified meanings of original text and misinterpreted out of context biblical verses, those were my remit. I have nothing to do with being pulled over at whim, derailing the thread to pacify anyone or giving them support in their bigoted and predijuced stance. I opened this thread to do an exposé. I am not on trial, this not an inquisition set up and headed by openmine. openmine should have queried me on scriptures I have said are misinterpreted. He knew he will be exposed so he thought he will send me on an "arodan" errand. Of course, you know what "arodan" is, but I am not joining him in his futile games, as I didnt open the thread for that. I have already told him the grounds upon which I will oblige him, and that is notwithstanding the fact that I had actually in the first part of my 3-part long post had advanced information to the effect that said the below: "To those, getting very well tuned in to this frequency, there is evidence of homosexual(s), during Jesus times, building "church" for the Israelites. There is evidence of homosexual(s), during Jesus time seeking Him. There is evidence of Jesus engaging with homosexual(s) and not for a single moment minded or be bothered about that. Where is the evidence of Jesus objecting to adult consensual same sex couples having a romantic faithful caring and loving relationship until death do them apart etcetera, hmm?" I opened this thread, I have the final say, especially since in the absence of a referre. I know when to type on it and when not to type. I know when to answer questions asked and when not to answer them. I know when someone is trying to deviate from the mission I set the thread up for and when they arent. I know when sincere questions are asked and arent asked You saw how TV01 and Shepherd00 actually section by section, especially TV01 beautifully were trying to counter salient points they thought I seemed to be making. It was brilliant, I loved their effort and their sincere doggedness. openmine on the other hand, just did a "jawango", then dedicatedly trolling and spamming the thread The bible didnt precisely say, a man should not have sex with another man, nor a man should not love another man or a man should not raise a family with another man. It is those lies centering around making believers and christians to be homophobic, intolerant, discriminative and prejudice that I am exposing. If or when I open a thread titled "God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts" openmineis more than welcome to come on it and ask for scriptures where God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts I already have given him an offer until when such thread sees the light of the day, if he provides me with the answer, I will oblige him his question likewise. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 2:30am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:You just know how to whip up unnecessary sentiments! in a nutshell,you wanted to present your case with scriptures that God permits and allows homosexual acts..no?! Go through out the other thread and this one in particular,You said it yourself that you will provide scriptures for your submissions...Like i said before,if this thread was devoid of scriptures to make such proofs,i would have gladly remained quiet! Oga stop your evasive tactics and give scriptures to back your claims or shut it! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 2:35am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:Listen, because I am not going to repeat myself, I didnt open this thread to "reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!". The title of the thread is self explanatory enough, so please, get that straight. Thank you very much. Go troll and heckle on another thread 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 2:38am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: The chicken has finally come home to roast! ...and yet you were querying some one for not standing the heat! Next time you open a thread,be straight forward from the outset! Now start your submissions without including God or scriptures! What a load of gobbledygook! Music to my ears! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 2:44am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:4/ Strawman mining is not permitted 5/ Important to know about Bible content being king, but also agree and accept that it's Bible context, who is king-maker 7/ Exegesis, concerned with discovering the true, honest and exact meaning of Bible text(s), as opposed to eisegesis, should be the rule of the day. 8/ Dont fire questions after questions, in attempt to prevent the other poster(s) getting words in between, as it'll be reported to the referee 9/ Dont distort, dont misrepresent whoever's post you are commenting on or responding to, as this will be brought to the attention of the referree I envisaged somebody like you, that is why I had the foresight for the above ground rules you blatantly disregarded and/or flouted. With such a dark ugly hateful soul, as you have, you must reek of sulfur. Good riddance. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 3:09am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Dishonest and evasive guy Eat your very words and let the world see your dishonesty on display! Do you have scriptures to back your submissions Mr MuttleyLaff? MuttleyLaff:Fast kor furious nii ....and MuttleyLaff:eunuchs are now referred to as homosexuals? wahala dey! MuttleyLaff:So where does it say that God approves of homosexual acts?....MuttleyLaff went muffled since then! How does God view homosexual acts based on the scriptures? MuttleyLaff: Untoward: inappropriate,inconvenient In other words,God sees nothing wrong OR God approves OR God permits homosexual acts according to Mr MuttleyLaff! After running from pillar to post...before he finally admitted that..... MuttleyLaff: After all the evasive schemes,he finally vomited the truth!!! Chai chai eleyi gidigan Even the least knowledgeable person can see through your dissimulation and apparent prevarication right from the outset! Your obviously brazen ego will be your greatest undoing!! 3 Likes |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 3:27am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:Ogbeni openmine, lets rewind. Wipe slate clean OK? Now, openmine, it is a simple easy, short, direct and straightforward question. Do you have scripture(s) where God does not permit homosexual acts? As in consensual adults in a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm? |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 3:32am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: This 'ibereberism' guy wan use format bribe me Oga MuttleyLaff We don't need a backtrack or invalidation!! That should have been your initial setup! I warned you about this during early days of this thread but your over-bloated ego didn't allow you see palpably! You started on a faulty foundation and you now want to retrace your steps? You want us to start afresh now that i know what your nefarious motives are? smh 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 6:51am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:openmine, ọrẹ, it is a simple easy, short, direct and straightforward question nau. Do you have scripture(s) where God does not permit homosexual acts? As in, do you have scriptures, where God does not permit consensual adults, having a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 7:05am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: You are making a serious and dreadful mistake if you think I will fall for your cheap and crappy games! You can't eat your cake and have it! You are the one who gloated in a boastful manner that you had earth shattering and mind bugging scriptures that will come in a fast and furious pace! On realising that your claptrap has ended up in smokes after exposing your insincerity,you now try to backtrack your very words by taking it back to me in form of a question! Guy it doesn't work like that.... You claimed you had scriptures to back your claims right? Now,do well to present them or call on one of your supporters to assist you since you have run out of ammo! Just a reminder since you have suddenly developed amnesia....... Good morning! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:12am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:Ah, Chief, please dont be like with how others or some do with bible verses, take out of context whatever I might have typed nau. Please have the decency to consider, whatever you see me type, in context with the content nau. So I ask you the simple easy, short, direct and straightforward question again. Good morning to you too!. Do you have scripture(s) where God does not permit homosexual acts? As in, do you have scriptures, where God does not permit consensual adults, having a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm? 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 7:26am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Oga,chief and royal highest MuttleyLaff...the earth shattering master with fast and furious hammer ...Please respond to the highlighted! The rest are unnecessary sentiments! Either you do so or you stay silent or better still ask your advocates that you cc'ed to help you out! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:37am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:You do know that 100% of any moniker I have cc'ed on this thread are allies of yours hmm? They each share your sentiments and hatred of same sex relationships, so now tell me, how come they are my advocates or me asking them to help me out, hmm? Think about it now openmine, it isnt rational reasoning. Who does that huh? Again, biko, do you have scripture(s) where God does permit homosexual acts? As in, do you have scriptures, where God does not permit consensual adults, having a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm? Dont disregard the thread's #9 rule of not to be changing posters' comment and misrepresenting the original content, pack that silly habit in already please. People have perfected this art so much from exposure to how original Bible text meaning was changed and strange unoriginal words were introduced into the Bible, they have brought the practice to this thread, na wa ooo. Are you a yahoo boy? #NairaMarley 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by Nobody: 7:59am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:nope I dont think so. If you really and sincerely had read all my posts so far on this thread, and you thoughtfully paid attention when reading, you would have spotted whereI prefer a direct and precise response. Dont bother, give it a rest please.I wouldnt lose sleep over it. I wanted you to explain what's the context of the Leviticus chapter 20 and how Leviticus 20:13 fits in with the greater theme of Leviticus 20 itself but for you to sincerely, truthfully and honestly explain it is a big big problem.please do. Also explain how God define marriage as between a man and a woman and any other sexual relationship outside that is defilement. will you change God's definition by adding or subtracting from it? Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: paul calls same sex affection as vile. if it is harmless and acceptable why was it called a vile affection. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 8:10am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: I am on my own! if the people you cc'ed have refused to help you out,its because they have discovered your mischief and evasive skils See how i have made this guy turn into a broken 1960 record.... When you are ready to provide scriptures that says God adores and loves homosexual acts,then i will gleefully and elegantly show you mine! And at the risk of accusing me of misinterpreting your own words,i would like to remind you that You are the one who said God sees nothing wrong with homosexual acts consensual or not! right? MuttleyLaff:Unnecessary sentiments filled with endless balderdash! I can do whatever i want with your statements! If you dont like it,come and beat me 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:24am On Jun 10, 2019 |
solite3:Good solite3:So you do accept and agree that I did and have advanced a response, ehn? You are doing and playing an Oliver Twist "I want more" card, asking for more, after I have already given as much as needed to be given at this point of time. My remit isnt at all, for now to show where God support homosexuality in the Bible because I am more concerned about shaterring the myth and exposing the lies perpetrated against consensual adult homosexuality/same sex union. Please respect that. solite3:I wouldnt either over your question too solite3:Now you are talking, because this is exactly the reason for opening this thread, to talk about the "adding or subtracting" done to the Bible in order to portray same sex attraction and relationship acts as wrong, evil bad and something to hate solite3:Paul never called faithful, truthful, loving, trusting caring same sex relationship done in privacy. He actually was referring to sex acts done in ritualistic temple, sex orgies settings etcetera vile affection. He was talking of heterosexual couples prostituting themselves temple prostitutes for financial gain etcetera, behaving as gays, when naturally they arent 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:32am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:I too, I am a one man Mopol. None in the posters cc'ed can support me or help me because they share with you, your same hatred for homosexual and/or homosexuality acts. openmine:Are you serious about this? Can you be trusted you will show me yours, if I show you mine, hmm? No dirty minds here people, abeggy jor openmine:You lift out extracts of my text and take it out context openmine:Me kẹ, beat you, I no fit naa, who dash monkey butter? Big man, Mr Hotstepper, make I postrate for ground, make una come mash me upandan all over, na only you fit, awọn alagbara 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:34am On Jun 10, 2019 |
openmine:Thanks my brother. A simple question and he claims the answer is in volume 16 and 17 of the encyclopedia of lascivious living and that I should go and study it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:35am On Jun 10, 2019 |
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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 8:43am On Jun 10, 2019 |
shadeyinka: shadeyinka:What of I, that wrote it. I that spent precious time and slavish effort to comprehensively and justifiably share such information. It was even a second attempt after a previous inadvertently got deleted. People are now used to fast food, quick meal these days, to read more than 6-7 lines of text have become a serious bother You knew what would have happened if you stayed on the thread with me. I would have showed you how lie like a cheap Persian throw rug . You knew that by the time, I was done with you, you would come out and fall apart, like a cheap suit, that has its loose thread yanked and pulled. 1 Like |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by shadeyinka(m): 8:51am On Jun 10, 2019 |
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Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 8:58am On Jun 10, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Guy relax...i know your people! Stop trying to act like the victim! MuttleyLaff: Maybe this might jog your memory since you seem to have reading amnesia on my responses.... MuttleyLaff:I almost fell down from my chair while laughing at your fast and furious grandstanding! MuttleyLaff: Okay I believe you can fully comprehend your word usage? no? These are your very words..... MuttleyLaff: What do you mean by NOTHING UNTOWARD? Let me assist you.... According to baba MuttleyLaff, In pidgin:God no see any thing bad with man and man way dey nak each other! In english:God sees nothing wrong with a man having se.x with another man! Now show me.....where i took your words out of context! MuttleyLaff:Forget all these shenanigans! I know your type! |
Re: Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by openmine(m): 9:00am On Jun 10, 2019 |
shadeyinka: Please take it easy with him my brother! 1 Like
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