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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:01am On Jun 11, 2019 |
theenchanter:Bro,remember the popular adage about the land of the blind. The one eyed man is king. I am still waiting for rvp to disprove me on their agriculture sector. He has been circling around for two days now with no meaningful answer. They have lied to the world for far too long but the reality on ground is beginning to expose them. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:04am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Car ownership per capita. Nigeria 31http://www.lubrita.com/news/45/671/Interesting-statistic-list-of-countries-by-vehicles-per-capita/ |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:12am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Still on Kenya agriculture. They claim to produce horticultural produce worth $3bn last year. Let's leave it at that for now.So we have: Horticulture..$3bn Milk. $1.4bn Tea. $1bn Coffee. $100million$5.5bn so far. Remember, agriculture is about 25%of Kenya's GDP. We are progressing at a clipping pace.Hang on,folks. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:13am On Jun 11, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:20am On Jun 11, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:23am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi:The total GDP will be around 40b. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:29am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi:Hahaha, I guess that's why they have East Africa's biggest unemployment rate despite their phantom |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:31am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi:You have a bigger population than Kenya.So how come they have those world famous slums and those starving folks?Even with their small population. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:35am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi:Even on governmental side,they fail to do some little projects for lacking funds.The sgr had to end in naivasha for lacking funding although they planned to extend it to Ugandan border. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:39am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi:That's too sad. That SGR is a debt trap. I think corruption is their biggest problem. A third of the budget gets stolen every year.It's a problem in Nigeria too.I mean it doesn't make sense but Kenya's own is out of this world. Their boys here know the truth but would rather insult others and hide their own problems. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:44am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi:When you're serious let me know.I will let you heckle a little bit.I already did this a year a go...sector to sector.Kenya total gov revenues are more than 20B... annually and you think that comes from which economy. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:48am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi: You don't need a stadium. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:49am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi:Very good questions.Some reasons are.. 1.Land ownerships. Most lands in Kenya is under big boys. These are politicians, white folks and some big businesses men who are connected to the elites 2.Rural neglects Kenyan gov for ages have neglected most parts of rural areas. These caused a lot of folks to migrate from northern Kenya and stuck in cities without any means of surviving 3.Capitalism I think they applied capitalism to the extreme. The Kenyan gov should have interfered in land prices especially in some areas of urban areas to make it affordable to most Kenyans who are generally poor.But,to my surprise, many Kenyans takes pride when a plot of land in Nairobi costs more than Dar 4.Poverty.When u digest all the above, the bottom line is Kenyans are too poor to get out of slums 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 10:49am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi: How would this lying fool know? Stick to bridges and waterfalls. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:58am On Jun 11, 2019 |
gallivant:ok 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:00am On Jun 11, 2019 |
[quote author=Kazikazi post=79209861][/quote] I told you lying is unacceptable here dullard. Kalambo falls is not in Tanzania. Why do you need to lie over this? You Tanzanians are very dishonest society, explains the witchcraft tendencies. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 11:00am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi: Cars in Nigeria 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:03am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Kalambo is in Zambia fool. Lying will not be accepted kazikazi. Not here. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 11:04am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi: You rank second in the world
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:08am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Kazikazi: You don't have SGR so stop lying. There is a railway to Uganda already. We don't have to fully find the SGR to Uganda, past Naivasha all the cargo is destined for Uganda, DRC and northern Tanzania. It's cheaper to ship things to Tanzania through Kenya than using rotting infrastructure or lack of it in Tanzania. You and Uganda will pay for the SGR extension. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:10am On Jun 11, 2019 |
obaaderemi: New day, same tactics. [img]https:///3666/33726831296_436f60f683_b.jpg[/img] |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:24am On Jun 11, 2019 |
rvp2018:Keep lying to yourself. So your revenues jumped from $14bn in 2017/2018 session to more than $20bn a year later. For your information, revenues are currently on a downward trend in Kenyatta's backyard. Of the KSh1.44 trillion that thehttps://pesacheck.org/how-much-will-kenya-spend-on-debt-repayment-in-2018-4bde15937400?gi=db57f18d80de 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:26am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Stevoh18:Trying to save face. I am not classless like you. I don't post dirty pictures. But don't push your luck. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:27am On Jun 11, 2019 |
gallivant:You are the same one with the same picture of yourself. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:30am On Jun 11, 2019 |
You don't even know what revenue stand for. KRA collects taxes amounting to around Kshs1.6 trillion (16B) this year (financial year just ended last week) -last year we did 1.5 trillion(15B). Gov also collects another 2-3B dollars from A-I-A(Appropriation in Aid ) - you know licenses, fees, court fines and the works - from both national and county govs. Total 20B. http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/send/203-budget-policy-statement/1348-2019-budget-policy-statement.html?option=com_jdownloads 212. In the FY 2019/20 revenue collection including Appropriation-in-Aid(A.i.A) is projected to increase to Ksh 2,080.9 billion (18.3 percent of GDP) up from Ksh 1,831.5 billion (18.3 percent of GDP) in the FY 2018/19 (Annex Tables2 and 3). This revenue performance will be underpinned by on-going reforms intax policy and revenue administration. Ordinary revenues will amount to Ksh1,877.2 billion (16.5 percent of GDP) in FY 2019/20 up from Ksh 1,651.5 billion (16.5 percent of GDP) in FY 2018/19. Countries of Kenya profile typically have around 17-20% of revenue/GDP (middle income countries like RSA have 25% plus revenue to gdp). Nigeria obviously is cooked because they have 6% revenue to GDP - you can see it's cooked nearly 3 times!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio If you want to know a country that cooks it's data - there are SO MANY data points you can use to verify. You cannot claim for example to be 400B dollar economy - and have a gov budget & expenditure similar to Kenya (100B) economy. Show me any other country that has your tiny budget - Algeria are nearly 100B dollars budget with South Africa and Egypts. If you claim kenya's GDP is 50B or 40B - then kenya govs has taken 50% from the economy - which would be crazy - because kenya tax rate is max 30% (Income) & (VAT 16%) for the formal sector only. obaaderemi: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:45am On Jun 11, 2019 |
rvp2018:though, not a fan of Wikipedia... but if u're really intelligent as u portray to ur fellow kenyans, u would have seen that most oil producing nations have a low tax-to-gdp rate. Oman is doing 2%, Saudi Arabia is doing 5.3%, Qatar is doing 2% and even UAE is doing 1.4%. Is UAE and Saudi Arabia with Qatar gdp also cooked? Dumbo. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:47am On Jun 11, 2019 |
We did this same analysis - last year April 2018 - with forgiveness - before he went quiet. rvp20182: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:48am On Jun 11, 2019 |
And their GDP is entirely Oil. They don't claim to also have 100B (6th world largest) agriculture. They don't claim to be manufacturing hubs. They don't claim to have 400B sectors - where oil production is less than 10% - but accounts for 95% of gov rev. That is our problem - where is this huge sector that don't pay taxes. Middle East Oil nations have nothing outside their cities. They GDP/tax and everything is OIL OIL OIL. Nigeria OIL sector is worth maybe 60-80B dollars - 2m barrels a day at 60 dollars*365 - and that is where gov get's it resources - and then rest as our data indicates MASS POVERTY INFORMAL SECTOR. theenchanter: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:54am On Jun 11, 2019 |
rvp2018:u still need to attend international politics/economic class. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:55am On Jun 11, 2019 |
Is that the much your can muster? We are talking facts and figures - economic - which should speak for themselves. theenchanter: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:57am On Jun 11, 2019 |
rvp2018:Dude, I'm not in d mood for ur usual rants. Many baseless fact is ur domain, so much cheap talk.... I've got no time for that. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 12:01pm On Jun 11, 2019 |
The best comeback of all! Stevoh18: 3 Likes |
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