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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 6:08pm On Jun 11, 2019

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 6:11pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
He is trying to massage rvp's bruised bum. cheesy Rvp who keeps saying things he can't defend.
Even the rvp knows nothing about economy and politics. You and theenchanter and samorobo just keep educating the idiot and busting his lies. While these useless Kenyans keeps praising him as the godfather of their group grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 6:18pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
I can give you more than ten without blinking. grin

Kenya is the seventh Largest country in Africa by population... Only ten out of more than 40 smaller countries than Kenya

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:42pm On Jun 11, 2019
rvp2018:
You don't even know what revenue stand for. KRA collects taxes amounting to around Kshs1.6 trillion (16B) this year (financial year just ended last week) -last year we did 1.5 trillion(15B). Gov also collects another 2-3B dollars from A-I-A(Appropriation in Aid ) - you know licenses, fees, court fines and the works - from both national and county govs. Total 20B.

http://www.treasury.go.ke/component/jdownloads/send/203-budget-policy-statement/1348-2019-budget-policy-statement.html?option=com_jdownloads

212. In the FY 2019/20 revenue collection including Appropriation-in-Aid(A.i.A) is projected to increase to Ksh 2,080.9 billion (18.3 percent of GDP) up from Ksh 1,831.5 billion (18.3 percent of GDP) in the FY 2018/19 (Annex Tables2 and 3). This revenue performance will be underpinned by on-going reforms intax policy and revenue administration.

Ordinary revenues will amount to Ksh1,877.2 billion (16.5 percent of GDP) in FY 2019/20 up from Ksh 1,651.5 billion
(16.5 percent of GDP) in FY 2018/19.


Countries of Kenya profile typically have around 17-20% of revenue/GDP (middle income countries like RSA have 25% plus revenue to gdp). Nigeria obviously is cooked because they have 6% revenue to GDP - you can see it's cooked nearly 3 times!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio

If you want to know a country that cooks it's data - there are SO MANY data points you can use to verify.

You cannot claim for example to be 400B dollar economy - and have a gov budget & expenditure similar to Kenya (100B) economy. Show me any other country that has your tiny budget smiley - Algeria are nearly 100B dollars budget with South Africa and Egypts.

If you claim kenya's GDP is 50B or 40B - then kenya govs has taken 50% from the economy smiley - which would be crazy - because kenya tax rate is max 30% (Income) & (VAT 16%) for the formal sector only.

I wonder why you think you can lie here when I am around. Below is your total tax and non tax government revenue for a number of years. Check figures for 2016,it's $13bn. Explain how you jumped from $13bn to over $20bn in the space of 2 years. cheesy

[quote]2014 2015 2016
Revenue category
Total tax and non-tax revenue 186 485.4 188 086.5 207 666.65 235 753.803 324 873.475 348 419.853 394 168.185 512 751.088 550 767.286 573 806.201 6 765.8 7 014.782 870 601.835 1 045 958.309 1 190 676.07 1 332 639.588
https://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=REVKEN
Feel free to open the link.


By 2017, your government revenue rose to $15bn as this screenshot shows.So how did you go to over $20bn by 2018? cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 6:45pm On Jun 11, 2019
A poor, miserable and starving Kenyan threatens to kill Paul Okoye of the defunct Psquare for not giving him money.
Below is the screenshots:
Kenyan na so hunger want finish una grin grin






Cc: obaaderemi
Problemkid1
tylann
gallivant
Kazikazi
Stevoh18
Rvp2018
theenchanter
Jonraid

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:45pm On Jun 11, 2019
Stevoh18:


Kenya is the seventh Largest country in Africa by population... Only ten out of more than 40 smaller countries than Kenya
4th largest country in east Africa. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:00pm On Jun 11, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
A poor, miserable and starving Kenyan threatens to kill Paul Okoye of the defunct Psquare for not giving him money.
Below is the screenshots:
Kenyan na so hunger want finish una grin grin






Cc: obaaderemi
Problemkid1
tylann
gallivant
Kazikazi
Stevoh18
Ha! Wetin be dis na? Are they this desperate now?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 7:05pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
Ha! Wetin be dis na? Are they this desperate now?
I swear! hunger is will wipe Kenyans off the face of the planet oneday.
I think the world needs to take a drastic measure to avert an imminent humanitarian catastrophe in Kenya.
Their brothers are here on Nairaland deluding themselves instead of protesting against the severe hunger and starvation in Kenya. cheesy grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:05pm On Jun 11, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
A poor, miserable and starving Kenyan threatens to kill Paul Okoye of the defunct Psquare for not giving him money.
Below is the screenshots:
Kenyan na so hunger want finish una grin grin






Cc: obaaderemi
Problemkid1
tylann
gallivant
Kazikazi
Stevoh18
Rvp2018
theenchanter
Jonraid

Hey look, it's Obaboon 0.2! grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 7:08pm On Jun 11, 2019
gallivant:


Hey look, it's Obaboon 0.2! grin
Abeg naso hunger dey una land? Una don the threaten Naija celebrities. cheesy cheesy cheesy.
After we help una finish una go still come dey envy us grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:09pm On Jun 11, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
I swear! hunger is will wipe Kenyans off the face of the planet oneday.
I think the world needs to take a drastic measure to avert an imminent humanitarian catastrophe in Kenya.
Their brothers are here on Nairaland deluding themselves instead of protesting against the severe hunger and starvation in Kenya. cheesy grin
@bolded..Kenyans are a patient mulish kind. They are contented with their predicament. A white settler once said about native Kenyans: Shoot one of these black Kenyans and tomorrow you will have two of his friends working for you. They're so useless. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:09pm On Jun 11, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
I swear! hunger is will wipe Kenyans off the face of the planet oneday.
I think the world needs to take a drastic measure to avert an imminent humanitarian catastrophe in Kenya.
Their brothers are here on Nairaland deluding themselves instead of protesting against the severe hunger and starvation in Kenya. cheesy grin

Quoting yourself again? When you are done trying to validate your own weak points let us know. smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 7:16pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
4th largest country in east Africa. grin

But largest in terms of GDP
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:16pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
Small countries usually do well in such stats.I guess Kenya is the exception that breaks the rule. grin grin grin
When it's convenient it small country..but most of the time let just compare countries without taking into consideration the landmass and pop size...like yesterday when Nigeria cattle population was embarrassingly low. Obaboon you're congenitally boneheaded..like kazikazi...effect of malnutrition.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 7:16pm On Jun 11, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
A poor, miserable and starving Kenyan threatens to kill Paul Okoye of the defunct Psquare for not giving him money.
Below is the screenshots:
Kenyan na so hunger want finish una grin grin






Cc: obaaderemi
Problemkid1
tylann
gallivant
Kazikazi
Stevoh18
Rvp2018
theenchanter
Jonraid

Nigeria is doomed
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:21pm On Jun 11, 2019
68816419:

"half — KSh658.2 billion — will go towards repayment of loans and short-term debts," , Kenya is indeed sitting on a heavy time-bombs. embarassed embarassed cry cry
70% of Nigeria budget goes to debt repayment.Ours is okay.Its 25% of our budget.We are basically refinancing our debt.We borrow 6b dollars annually..we repay 6B dollars annually...leaving us with clean 20B dollars to pay our public sectors workers well, have enough for recurrent expenditure and at least 6B dollars for development.I wish you can say that about Nigeria...who are using 70% of revenues to repay debt... remaining 30% is not enough to pay salaries and pensions..so you're borrowing to pay salaries.Kenya fiscal deficit is falling and soon we will start to leverage again.. borrow more than we repay...that is prudent public financial management.. something alien in Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:32pm On Jun 11, 2019
Our hopes are not that high. So don't think we will get much hurt if we are thrown out early.
Problemkid1:
Group stage is where you guys will stop grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:36pm On Jun 11, 2019
68816419:
LAGOS | Blue Water Lekki | Residential | 17F | 17F | 17F | 20F | 20F | U/C
Second and third towers underway grin grin grin
Too many projects ongoing but not reported
17 & 18 floors should be celebrated by Rwanda's....what wrong with Nigerians.Nairobi alone has like 30 residential towers more than 30 floors under construction.Dont talk office space...where folks are going for 80 floors.Next time don't post anything less than 20flrs.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:41pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
He is trying to massage rvp's bruised bum. cheesy Rvp who keeps saying things he can't defend.
You cannot defend your 100b dollars agriculture...I can defend ours. Obviously you grew up with low self esteem that makes think what onyibo and Indians can do..you can't.You see progress by blackest of Africans in Kenya and you cannot believe it.If Nigerians had self esteem they would question why despite billions of dollars from oil since 1960s...their country is shitty looking, folks are shutting outside and poverty so shocking....have some self esteem... whatever an Indian or white or Lebanese can do...you can.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:46pm On Jun 11, 2019
Okay.Let's ignore hecklers and move on with our forensic analysis of the Kenyan agricultural sector.
We are done with the following:
Milk: $1.4bn
Tea. : $1bn
Coffee $110million
Horticulture $3bn
Total...$5.5bn
Let's go to meat.
Kenya produced about 900,000 tonnes of meat last year.
1tonne=1000kg
That's a total of 900,000,000kg.
Average price of meat in Kenya is $4/kg
900,000,000*4= 3,600,000,000 $3.6bn

Total so far= $5.5 +$3.6= $9.1bn.

Next I will go to crop production minus coffee and tea. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:48pm On Jun 11, 2019
rvp2018:
You cannot defend your 100b dollars agriculture...I can defend ours. Obviously you grew up with blow self esteem that makes thing what onyibo and Indians can do..you can't.You see progress by blackest of Africans in Kenya and you cannot believe it.
Please type when you are less angry.You are incoherent right now. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:53pm On Jun 11, 2019
rvp2018:
.Have some self esteem... whatever an Indian or white or Lebanese can do...you can.
Of course! That's why Nigeria's biggest company is owned by a native Nigerian.
It's why Nigeria has a 100% black owned major mobile telecommunication company. grin
Can the same be said of Kenya? Who is Kenya's richest man? Is he black, white or Indian? cheesy
Answer, I dey wait.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:55pm On Jun 11, 2019
Stevoh18:

But largest in terms of GDP
Yes,fake GDP. cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:59pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
Of course! That's why Nigeria's biggest company is owned by a native Nigerian.
It's why Nigeria has a 100% black owned major mobile telecommunication company. grin
Can the same be said of Kenya? Who is Kenya's richest man? Is he black, white or Indian? cheesy
Answer, I dey wait.
Dangote is no different from Kenyatta's...Kenya richest..followed by Moi's.You richest man of course is The Rockefeller family who owns you oil through Shell and many other oil companies.But you won't know coz you're dumb.Your most important resource is Oil and it's owned by some few white families in the US.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:59pm On Jun 11, 2019
Kazikazi:
Very good questions.Some reasons are..


1.Land ownerships.
Most lands in Kenya is under big boys. These are politicians, white folks and some big businesses men who are connected to the elites

2.Rural neglects
Kenyan gov for ages have neglected most parts of rural areas. These caused a lot of folks to migrate from northern Kenya and stuck in cities without any means of surviving

3.Capitalism
I think they applied capitalism to the extreme. The Kenyan gov should have interfered in land prices especially in some areas of urban areas to make it affordable to most Kenyans who are generally poor.But,to my surprise, many Kenyans takes pride when a plot of land in Nairobi costs more than Dar

4.Poverty.When u digest all the above, the bottom line is Kenyans are too poor to get out of slums
That last point is very salient! They keep producing new slums.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:02pm On Jun 11, 2019
rvp2018:
Dangote is no different from Kenyatta's...Kenya richest..followed by Moi's.You richest man of course is The Rockefeller family who owns you oil through Shell and many other oil companies.But you won't know coz you're dumb.
cheesy I think at this point you need to log out and start using your other monikers. You've lost it. Wow, Nigeria's richest man is the Rockefeller family[/b]. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:02pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
Okay.Let's ignore hecklers and move on with our forensic analysis of the Kenyan agricultural sector.
We are done with the following:
Milk: $1.4bn
Tea. : $1bn
Coffee $110million
Horticulture $3bn
Total...$5.5bn
Let's go to meat.
Kenya produced about 900,000 tonnes of meat last year.
1tonne=1000kg
That's a total of 900,000,000kg.
Average price of meat in Kenya is $4/kg
900,000,000*4= 3,600,000,000 $3.6bn

Total so far= $5.5 +$3.6= $9.1bn.

Next I will go to crop production minus coffee and tea. grin
keep going...as of last year Kenya agriculture was 24b or around...26% of 90B gdp...you got dairy sector off by 3B..othr sectors by few points off.but let's se how far you get...I can help if you're stuck.Do cereals..maize,rice,sugar,wheat,barley, sorghum,millet...then go to tubers...Irish and sweat potato..go to bananas.. then go fishing...then forestry and tree farming...I can help even with bee keeping data...even livestock you just did meat value add...you're still got some livestock to do..eggs, chicken, pigs...keep going.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:08pm On Jun 11, 2019
rvp2018:
[s]keep going...as of last year Kenya agriculture was 24b or around...26% of 90B gdp...you got dairy sector off by 3B..othr sectors by few points off.but let's se how far you get...I can help if you're stuck.Do cereals..maize,rice,sugar,wheat,barley, sorghum,millet...then go to tubers...Irish and sweat potato..go to bananas.. then go fishing...then forestry and tree farming...I can help even with bee keeping data.[/s]..
Stop heckling and distracting us. cheesy
We're on to something here.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cali1: 8:29pm On Jun 11, 2019
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by cali1: 8:30pm On Jun 11, 2019
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 8:33pm On Jun 11, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
A poor, miserable and starving Kenyan threatens to kill Paul Okoye of the defunct Psquare for not giving him money.
Below is the screenshots:
Kenyan na so hunger want finish una grin grin






Cc: obaaderemi
Problemkid1
tylann
gallivant
Kazikazi
Stevoh18
Rvp2018
theenchanter
Jonraid
An ah. What's the meaning of this. Is that they behave in that Country. Why the idiot no go beg him/her president to sponsor him/her to US. Useless Kenyan with their poverty

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:37pm On Jun 11, 2019
obaaderemi:
Okay.Let's ignore hecklers and move on with our forensic analysis of the Kenyan agricultural sector.
We are done with the following:
Milk: $1.4bn
Tea. : $1bn
Coffee $110million
Horticulture $3bn
Total...$5.5bn
Let's go to meat.
Kenya produced about 900,000 tonnes of meat last year.
1tonne=1000kg
That's a total of 900,000,000kg.
Average price of meat in Kenya is $4/kg
900,000,000*4= 3,600,000,000 $3.6bn

Total so far= $5.5 +$3.6= $9.1bn.

Next I will go to crop production minus coffee and tea. grin
Every Kenyan should follow this analysis like Rvp does. Let's go to other crops produced by Kenya minus tea and coffee.
Total value of crops produced in Kenya last year was about $7bn.(I am being overgenerous here due to the fact that harvests have been declining grin)
https://knoema.com/atlas/Kenya/topics/Agriculture/Value-of-Agricultural-Production-Gross-Production-Value-Current-Million-USdollar/Gross-value-of-crops-production
$7bn -- ($1bn*tea* +$3bn*horticulture*+$110mn*coffee*)
$7- $4.1bn= $2.9bn
Other crops=$2.9bn

So far $9.1bn + $2.9= $12bn cheesy

You see,Rvp, you don't have to do your other small crops one by one.There's something called grossing-up, a principle which is beyond your understanding, hence your belief that I have to do the crops one by one.You are a layman. grin

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