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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:50am On Jun 13, 2019 |
First how would I know the quanties and prices when all the cassava your produce - you allegedly eat - after buying from informal buyers market - and yet when we examine malnutrition(a scientific process involving weighing and measuring Nigerians) - you're malnourished. You agriculture data is cooked. Your ministry of agriculture doesn't have the data. Nobody knows where the data comes from. For instance you claim to produce and eat about 35M metric tonnes of cassava. You export nothing. Even Congo export cassava. How much Cassava is that per Nigerian. The same crazy figures are alleged in rice, yams, sorghum,millet,maize and name it. How much food do you guys eat and why is there so much malnutrition - 2nd worst in the world. And that is GENESIS OF YOUR COOKED GDP that generate zero taxes. Kenya you've got RELIABLE & CREDIBLE data - of formerly marketed goods - and exported - our agriculture contribute about 20% of tax revenues. I mean in Kenya we eat Ugali (maize meal) every day as our staple food - and use it to feed cows - and we are fine with 3.5M metric tonnes - you don't eat ugali - but you claim to produce 11m metric tonnes - you claim to eat like 10M metric tonnes of rice (we do with 0.7M metric tonnes) - you claim to eat lots of wheat, yams (crazy), sorghum, plantain, name it. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:02am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018:I knew you would collapse from the effort. Your economy is the most overcooked one in Africa, probably the whole world. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:06am On Jun 13, 2019 |
tylann: No Kigali not International. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 11:07am On Jun 13, 2019 |
The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) has expressed interest to join the East African Community. In a letter addressed to the current chairman of EAC Paul Kagame from DRC President Felix Tshisekedi... Tanzania can now get lost... 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:07am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Multiplying Q*P is no effort. Trusting the source of the figures is where your minister of agriculture collapsed. Last when he was asked about rice production figures that didn't make sense - he quoted indeximulli. I mean let look at rice for example. You're still biggest world importer of rice - and yet you claim to produce what 7-8M metric tonnes of rice. The questions is when you entire agriculture is informal - how do you come up with production data - if not guesstimate and cooking. In fact once we unravel where you get your agricluture data - we will have unravel the cooked nigeria GDP. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:08am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Another crazy data from MasterCard. The Sub Saharan Africa Top 5 Destinationhttps://mediacraft.ng/big-cities-big-business-lagos-leads-sub-saharan-africa-in-mastercards-2018-global-destination-cities-index/ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:08am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Yes EAC is not international. JamboJet goes as far as Somalia. They need to fly across one of the oceans or seas. gallivant: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:10am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Kazikazi: In the spirit of brotherhood in the EAC community, Bujumbura and Entebbe are regional cities. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:11am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018:Oga, I can sense a white flag when I see one. What I have done I have done. Your GDP has been dissected. You should thank us. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:13am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Those are just Nigerian diaspora come for summer holidays.There is no international visitors of such numbers coming to your slumpolis. That is just a fact. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:14am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018: They are only 2 airlines that are approved by IATA in east Africa that is kq and Rwanda airlines and of course Ethiopian airlines The other ones like air tz that are managed in the office of President are no where to be seen |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:15am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Kazikazi why does air tz not flying to Nairobi |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:17am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018:They still end up spending more money here.Any wonder our tourism market is bigger than yours? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:17am On Jun 13, 2019 |
You're darting around the issues. Kenya agriculture and it's entire GDP is verifiable. The issues for example is how do you know how much cassava you produce. You GDP will not make sense. This is an academic pursuit to help you understand what your Gov is doing to you. It's not money in the bank. Your revenues are very shameful. Outside Oil - you got nothing. So help us understand how you come up with production figures for crop production. That is where we start. In kenya we have crop production boards. We also have verifiable export data. We also have verifiable formally marketed products. For example Maize - our gov buys 1-2m bags every year and stores them in strategic reserve. We have formally processed milk. We know how many flowers get flown daily to Europe. The same for nearly every crops. You tell us that you do farm and market surveys? or how do you know how much cassava, or rice, or name it where produced - when nearly all of it is produced, consumed by the farmers and little sold in markets. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:18am On Jun 13, 2019 |
Stevoh18: Good one 80 million market Now we need Ethiopia to join the league 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:19am On Jun 13, 2019 |
obaaderemi: Terrorism market |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:20am On Jun 13, 2019 |
I don't think Uganda or Rwanda will agree - but we shall see. Somalia wanted in but they were refused. But we need to admit DRC Congo without much thought. tylann: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:20am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018:Of course all the details are there. They made my work easy in calculating your GDP. You even supplied some of the details. And I ended up throwing you an extra billion to cover for adjustment. You still came up short. I am sure by now most Kenyans here hate their government as the scale fall from their eyes. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:22am On Jun 13, 2019 |
tylann:Thank you.At least Somalians don't attack us in the centre of our country. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:23am On Jun 13, 2019 |
obaaderemi:lol.... some things are just insane here. The mumu actually thought only kenya has cow that poo, he thought other African country's cow have cloaca instead of anus. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:23am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018: Sometimes i wonder why we are called east African community There is no unity in east African countries Somalia could have been a burden DRC is must i pray they get approved |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:24am On Jun 13, 2019 |
obaaderemi: At least no part or territory of Kenya is under a terror group control |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:24am On Jun 13, 2019 |
theenchanter:A more desperate bunch of goons I have never seen. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:25am On Jun 13, 2019 |
I am only short of time - because every time we ask about your nigeria data - you'll bring up kenya data. I mean GDP of 50B cannot possibly be launching 31B dollar national budget in the next 20 mins Your GDP cooking start from the startling agricultural data. Again I will ask you to help us with methodology here; the source of data; and then we can begin doing the computation. You food imports is dead give away that your productions figures are faked. You cannot fake that because other countries are reporting what they export to Nigeria. You lack of food exports - outside cocoa and shrimps - maybe rubber, timber & lumber - is also a dead give away. You cannot cook that because the importers have to declare in their countries what they imported. You can heckle, try to evade the questions but WE WILL BE HERE FOR LONG HAUL.THe questions is simple. WHAT THE SOURCE OF YOUR AGRICULTURE DATA. Pick any crop. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:25am On Jun 13, 2019 |
rvp2018:u're just full of cheap talk. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:26am On Jun 13, 2019 |
tylann:Yet your boys and girls are running away to join al shabab in Somalia out of hunger. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 11:27am On Jun 13, 2019 |
theenchanter:Its another way of stylishly throwing in the towel. He knows the truth already. His eyes have been opened here. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:28am On Jun 13, 2019 |
obaaderemi: Yet all boko haram boys and girls are nigerians . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:30am On Jun 13, 2019 |
What cheap talk. You know when I saw Nigeria GDP figures - I was doubtful - because everything else was OFF- then I took my time - and I figured out I will start with biggest elephant in the room. Agricluture is nearly 1/4 of Nigeria GDP - about 100B dollars (Incredulously one of world HIGHEST) - and so it easy to focus on it - it very simple production figures * prices. Oil figures are easy - Algeria and Angola produce around the same barrels per day - 2m - and we know it's exported commodity - so easy to verify. Cocoa - also is easy to verify - you export all the beans. Now our problem is where do you get the figures for yams, cassava, maize, rice, sorghum, millet, plantains? The figures I have seen are all estimates...not a single precise figure..just WILD ESTIMATES. Just direct us to where - and then help us with verification. That is what we do in Kenya - KNBS - does cross-verification. They get data from ministry or agency or board - and they cross-verify. I am convinced once we "solve" the crop & livestock production figures - we would have discovered the cooking that Yemi Kale does at Nigerian Stats office. theenchanter: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:31am On Jun 13, 2019 |
You are so stupid! It's a pitty! Kazikazi: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:36am On Jun 13, 2019 |
theenchanter: No rvp is a genius He backs all his claims with evidence and links You guys have refused to tell us how your 100b agriculture adds up Rvp did it for kenya agriculture with facts and figures And it seems you forgot the rule rvp is never wrong 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 11:38am On Jun 13, 2019 |
That part! Would have understood if he quoted FAO rvp2018: |
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