''This Index and the accompanying reports are not based on Mastercard volumes or transactional data.''

obaaderemi:
Another crazy data from MasterCard.

https://mediacraft.ng/big-cities-big-business-lagos-leads-sub-saharan-africa-in-mastercards-2018-global-destination-cities-index/

Jonraid:
That part! Would have understood if he quoted FAO

Acadavah guy is also a fan of indexmuli

Apparently indexmuli favours Tanzania compared to Kenya

Stevoh18:


Still better than you beggars and poor Nigerians

A Kenyan is calling Nigerians poor. Look at this foolish animal who haven't paid his Debt. Look at this hopeless and senseless creature is calling Nigerians poor while his starving people are dying of hunger everyday. No matter how Nigerians/Nigeria are poor. We can never be poor as Kenyans/Kenya, fact?

You just need to use common sense -- actually eyes ONLY - see Nigeria pictures - to know it's not 400 or 500B dollar economy.

I mean you can look at 300B dollar economies like Egypt (100M people - not small country) or South Africa or Algeria (one world largest countries - maybe 3 times Nigeria) with incredible resources - and just 270B dollars. Just look at their pictures....and then look at Nigeria pictures.

Don't even look at poverty data or whatever.

And tell me how that can be 400-500B dollar economy would look like, how the cities looks like, infrastructure, name it.

I mean Nigerians when they look at Kenya pictures - their envy is so much- they shout whites & indians because they cannot believe it's african country by Africans - I mean their first reaction in Nairobi Thread by Gavillant was no way kenya was 40B economy (That thread IS older than this).

You cannot fake to be rich - at least not for long.

tylann:


No rvp is a genius
He backs all his claims with evidence and links

You guys have refused to tell us how your 100b agriculture adds up
Rvp did it for kenya agriculture with facts and figures


And it seems you forgot the rule rvp is never wrong

rvp2018:
I am only short of time

And yet you are here more than anyone else. You are indeed short of time. Excuses make you look silly.

rvp2018:

- because every time we ask about your nigeria data - you'll bring up kenya data.[b]

Are you afraid of us bringing up Kenya's woeful economic data and exposing it further? I smell fear. Don't poo in your pants.I am not interested in tearing apart your economy today.Relax. But don't push.

rvp2018:

I mean GDP of 50B cannot possibly be launching [b]31B dollar national budget this in next 20 mins

I don't understand. Write when you are not angry.

rvp2018:

Your GDP cooking start from the startling agricultural data.

Again I will ask you to help us with methodology here; the source of data; and then we can begin doing the computation.

You food imports is dead give away that your productions figures are good.

You lack of food exports - outside cocoa and shrimps - is also a dead give away.

You can heckle, try to evade the questions but WE WILL BE HERE FOR LONG HAUL.THe questions is simple. WHAT THE SOURCE OF YOUR AGRICULTURE DATA. Pick any crop.

You keep forgetting one basic fact. The Nigerian market is the biggest single market in Africa. Based on the fact that agriculture in Africa is still at a backward stage, is it any wonder that Nigeria does not export much food.
Nigeria leads Africa in production of eggs and only second to South Africa in chicken.
Goats---- Nigeria
Rice-- Nigeria
Onions---Nigeria
Cashew---Nigeria
Groundnut.. Nigeria or Senegal
Cassava...... Nigeria
Yam.----------Nigeria
Sorghum----Nigeria
Palm Oil------Nigeria or Ghana.
Maize........Nigeria or South Africa
Citrus.......... Nigeria
And many more I don't have the energy for right now.
And don't forget: Chicken Shit---- Nigeria

So,I mean it when I said you would collapse from the effort. Where do you want to start from?
I am glad you didn't fault me on the figures I used for calculating your GDP since they are verifiable like you said. Thank you.

I have worked for and with UN for many years. The same with IMF and WB. They don't produce any data. They collate data. Basically the source of this information can only be Ministry of Agriculture of Nigeria or Crop Boards like you have in Kenya. A kenya minister of agricluture cannot quote FAO or IndexiMulli. It's the data he needs to know - and the methodology ought to be out there.

Jonraid:
That part! Would have understood if he quoted FAO

I don't know pidgin,so we will have to keep trying PLAIN ENGLISH. We are asking you how do you know how much rice or maize you planted and harvested?

Once you cook data - you can become anything. Nigeria are dying from poverty and malnutrition - and they have 100B agriculture. Bigger than Indonesia,Brazil - whose have about double and maybe 5 times their landmass - and really serious agricluture.

You say you produce 8M tonnes of rice - yet if you ask anybody in Thailand - Nigeria is their biggest market.

Kenya Finance Minister is about to read the budget - It's 31B dollar budget. You cannot read 31B budget if your GDP is 40B as your alleged. Some Jokes I am just entertaining. Nigeria will get there in 2023 if Oil prices hold

Stop wasting our time - explain to us how you collect and collate crop production figures.That will be genesis of how your GDP is cooked

obaaderemi:

And yet you are here more than anyone else. You are indeed short of time. Excuses make you look silly.

Are you afraid of us bringing up Kenya's woeful economic data and exposing it further? I smell fear. Don't poo in your pants.I am not interested in tearing apart your economy today.Relax. But don't push.


I don't understand. Write when you are not angry.

You keep forgetting one basic fact. The Nigerian market is the biggest single market in Africa. Based on the fact that agriculture in Africa is still at a backward stage, is it any wonder that Nigeria does not export much food.
Nigeria leads Africa in production of eggs and only second to South Africa in chicken.
Goats---- Nigeria
Rice-- Nigeria
Onions---Nigeria
Cashew---Nigeria
Groundnut.. Nigeria or Senegal
Cassava...... Nigeria
Yam.----------Nigeria
Sorghum----Nigeria
Palm Oil------Nigeria or Ghana.
Maize........Nigeria or South Africa
Citrus.......... Nigeria
And many more I don't have the energy for right now.
And don't forget: Chicken Shit---- Nigeria

So,I mean it when I said you would collapse from the effort. Where do you want to start from?
I am glad you didn't fault me on the figures I used for calculating your GDP since they are verifiable like you said. Thank you.

tylann:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/06/nigeria-has-more-hiv-infected-babies-anywhere-world-it-s-distinction-no-country-wants

This one has come with his stupidity again. Your HIV is higher and worster than Nigeria and you're here posting rubbish. Foolish kiberan

Equity was recognised for its investments in the community while KCB was named most innovative lender

KCB Group and Equity Group were feted at the 2019 edition of the African Banker Awards.

KCB was named the most innovative bank and also emerged as the top lender in East African region.

Organisers of the awards, IC Publications (producers of the African Banker magazine), said KCB was awarded because it “has demonstrated original and practical uses of technology to provide customer convenience, improved and more affordable services, and greater access to the financial services industry in Africa."

KCB's recent innovations include its partnership with Safaricom to launch the mobile-based daily revolving credit service dubbed Fuliza.


Equity was awarded for its investments in the community, with the country’s second-largest bank funding the education of thousands of needy learners in secondary school.



The lender has expanded its education programme to take scores of high school graduates to some of the most prestigious universities in North America and Europe.

"The award is aimed at companies that go beyond the philanthropic use of funds to use their overall knowledge, resources and reputation to improve the lives of the less advantaged in society," the organisers said.

Winners of the awards were announced on Tuesday night in Malabo, Equatorial Guinea on the fringes of the African Development Bank (AfDB) annual meeting.

Afreximbank was named Bank of the Year while Trade and Development Bank's President Admassu Tadesse was crowned African Banker of the Year.



South African banks dominated the investment banking and deals of the year categories. Absa won Investment Bank of the Year. Standard Bank and RMB won the equity deal of the year with the VIVO Energy

Kazikazi:
These grass u busy smoking told u to say that? Now,tell me the meaning of a word international. Mind u,harambee stars played some international friendlies

The grass is too much for him to control

Problemkid1:
This one has come with his stupidity again. Your HIV is higher and worster than Nigeria and you're here posting rubbish. Foolish kiberan

You have comprehension problems i see
Please read that link again povertykid1

Stevoh18:
The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) has expressed interest to join the East African Community.

In a letter addressed to the current chairman of EAC Paul Kagame from DRC President Felix Tshisekedi...
Tanzania can now get lost...

The headquarters of EAC is in arusha,Tanzania. We are the father of EAC.
Meanwhile,we are hosting a DRC president today

rvp2018:
I don't know pidgin,so we will have to keep trying PLAIN ENGLISH. We are asking you how do you know how much rice or maize you planted and harvested?

Once you cook data - you can become anything. Nigeria are dying from poverty and malnutrition - and they have 100B agriculture. Bigger than Indonesia,Brazil - whose have about double and maybe 5 times their landmass - and really serious agricluture.

You say you produce 8M tonnes of rice - yet if you ask anybody in Thailand - Nigeria is their biggest market.

Kenya Finance Minister is about to read the budget - It's 31B dollar budget. You cannot read 31B budget if your GDP is 40B as your alleged. Some Jokes I am just entertaining. Nigeria will get there in 2023 if Oil prices hold

Stop wasting our time - explain to us how you collect and collate crop production figures.That will be genesis of how your GDP is cooked

Go ahead and do the calculation like I have done yours. Stop clawing at straws. Your GDP is cooked,Oga.

gallivant:


In the spirit of brotherhood in the EAC community, Bujumbura and Entebbe are regional cities.

And Comoro? And Zimbabwe? South Africa? India?

obaaderemi:
They still earn more money than your tea leaves and coffee. Do the maths if you are up to it.

What's even tea sef. Tea that will make you Tinny the more. If you want to be Tinny, just drink tea the easy way

Problemkid1:
This one has come with his stupidity again. Your HIV is higher and worster than Nigeria and you're here posting rubbish. Foolish kiberan

I try to ignore the thug but he has a habit of trying hard to heckle when sensible people are talking. He claims to be a student but I seriously doubt it. Let's see what he would say next.

tylann:


You have comprehension problems i see
Please read that link again povertykid1

You're a mad goat. I don't want to read anything. It's just clearly that, you have started smoking that grass again, you bloody idiot

Problemkid1:
What's even tea sef. Tea that will make you Tinny the more. If you want to be Tinny, just drink tea the easy way

It's their biggest export. That's why they are a $56 bn economy.

Since they purport to be the largest economy in Africa(GDP Wise).They just have to provide data to back up their claims which is not easy.Nigeria is not attractive to Nigerians,they would rather face xenophobia in Mzansi streets than stay in their country! To me that doesn't look like the number one economy in Africa.Them beating SA for the top spot was a big lie! Some Nigerians were not even buying it!

rvp2018:
I have worked for and with UN for many years. The same with IMF and WB. They don't produce any data. They collate data. Basically the source of this information can only be Ministry of Agriculture of Nigeria or Crop Boards like you have in Kenya. A kenya minister of agricluture cannot quote FAO or IndexiMulli. It's the data he needs to know - and the methodology ought to be out there.

Yemi Kale already did that. What I am questioning is why 100B dollar economy has never sent one ship of excess food apart from cocoa beans & shrimps. Why all big food exporters are sending ships when you produce crazy amount of FOOD.Why are you spending more than 10B dollars to import food. Why are you malnourished? Why is poverty so rampant? Why are you a net food importer?

Once you answer all those conflicting questions - you'll only draw one conclusion.

You production figures are cooked. Your GDP is therefore cooked. Any body buying it will be an idiot. They need to learn from VW Group who sold 14 cars after producing 32 cars a year in 500B dollar economy.

obaaderemi:
Go ahead and do the calculation like I have done yours. Stop clawing at straws. Your GDP is cooked,Oga.

obaaderemi:
I try to ignore the thug but he has a habit of trying hard to heckle when sensible people are talking. He claims to be a student but I seriously doubt it. Let's see what he would say next.

I also try to ignore the idiot but i can't. The guy is senseless. When people are talking something important, the idiot will just come up with something stupid. Very Useless human being

obaaderemi:
It's their biggest export. That's why they are a $56 bn economy.

And they said they're $90 bn economy. Kenyans and lie

obaaderemi:
Thank you.At least Somalians don't attack us in the centre of our country.

The Somalians are coming for him

rvp2018:
What cheap talk. You know when I saw Nigeria GDP figures - I was doubtful - because everything else was OFF- then I took my time - and I figured out I will start with biggest elephant in the room. Agricluture is nearly 1/4 of Nigeria GDP - about 100B dollars - and so it easy to focus on it - it very simple production figures * prices.

Oil figures are easy - Algeria and Angola produce around the same barrels per day - 2m - and we know it's exported commodity - so easy to verify.

Cocoa - also is easy to verify - you export all the beans.

Now our problem is where do you get the figures for yams, cassava, maize, rice, sorghum, millet, plantains? The figures I have seen are all estimates...not a single precise figures..just WILD ESTIMATES.

Just direct us to where - and then help us with verification.

That is what we do in Kenya - KNBS - does cross-verification. They get data from ministry or agency or board - and they cross-verify.

u're not smart, rvp..... u're not smart.

If u truly want to calculate the value of agricultural sector of a country (which is a tedious task), u have to collate a lot of data:

. Ur agricultural products produced on a yearly basis since independence.
. ur exported agricultural products since independence till date.
. amount the products were sold on a yearly basis till date.
. Average % of ur agricultural sector in ur gdp on at least 10yrs interval (ur agricultural sector should be +/-70% of ur gdp in the 70s-80s)
. Value of ur exchange rate in those complimenting years.

When u're done with that, u'll do the same for every of ur remaining sectors, then u'll collate their respective figures... that's when u'll realise that ur agricultural sector is actually 25% of ur gdp and services hold a huge chunk of ur gdp.

U dont just multiply current agricultural products by price to get ur result. It doesn't work like that.

tylann:


At least no part or territory of Kenya is under a terror group control

The alshabaab, Somalians and even Ethiopians are coming for you, you idiot

tylann:


Yet all boko haram boys and girls are nigerians .

We have chased the Boko harams back to Chad. Go and read News

tylann:


No rvp is a genius
He backs all his claims with evidence and links

You guys have refused to tell us how your 100b agriculture adds up
Rvp did it for kenya agriculture with facts and figures


And it seems you forgot the rule rvp is never wrong

u're right.

tylann:


Sometimes i wonder why we are called east African community

There is no unity in east African countries

Somalia could have been a burden

DRC is must i pray they get approved

We will make sure DRC is in the EA community the same way we pulled them to SADC.

We are the father of EAC

theenchanter:
u're right.

Problemkid1:
I also try to ignore the idiot but i can't. The guy is senseless. When people are talking something important, the idiot will just come up with something stupid. Very Useless human being

That's exactly the point!

Kazikazi:
We will make sure DRC is in the EA community the same way we pulled them to SADC.

We are the father of EAC

Tell them brother, tell them. It seems they're not aware

rvp2018:
Yemi Kale already did that. What I am questioning is why 100B dollar economy has never sent one ship of excess food apart from cocoa beans & shrimps. Why all big food exporters are sending ships when you produce crazy amount of FOOD.Why are you spending more than 10B dollars to import food. Why are you malnourished? Why is poverty so rampant? Why are you a net food importer?

Once you answer all those conflicting questions - you'll only draw one conclusion.

You production figures are cooked. Your GDP is therefore cooked. Any body buying it will be an idiot. They need to learn from VW Group who sold 14 cars after producing 32 cars a year in 500B dollar economy.

Okay