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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:54am On Jun 14, 2019
darkelf:


Even I am not okay with his last performance but let us give him the benefit of doubt. You know why?

Because they might have been playing to avoid last minute injuries that may rule them out of contention. I know it sounds like I'm giving them excuses but let's see what they have to offer at the tournament proper first.

okay.
just want a player that can come in for iwobi @the AM role....
well oga icon have advocated that mikel can be moved there whenever iwobi is subbed....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 6:55am On Jun 14, 2019
iSlayer:






Bros na lie.
I watched him with my two naked eyes in the last friendly in asaba
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:03am On Jun 14, 2019
Icon79:
I totally 100% agree with you, bro. I am not one to second guess a coach on selection decision because I am of the opinion that a coach understands his team better than we the fans; however, I think that Rohr tends to put too much stock on how often the players are playing (or not playing) for their euro club sides. I don't totally agree with that because we've seen players who set the euro leagues on fire but turned out to be flops in green and white. Similarly, we've seen players who weren't having good seasons at their football clubs but still get it done when they put on the green and white.


O pari

you've made so much point up there...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:04am On Jun 14, 2019
Icon4s:

Yet people were calling John Obu's teams 'trash'.
no....ooo. he did far better than Aigbogun even Ladan bosso did better
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 7:05am On Jun 14, 2019
Icon4s:


Is it only when a player gets tired that a substitution is made?

If for any reason Iwobi needs to be susbtituted, as long as Mikel is in that game, u sub out Iwobi and introduce Etebor into Mikel's CM position. Then Mikel moves to AM.
okay....you made some valid points

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:13am On Jun 14, 2019
safarigirl:

Balogun and Iheanacho had two completely different situations

Aside the fact that Balogun is tested and trusted in the GWG, he has also been consistent

Even with the sparse games he got in Brighton, he never disappointed. He played just 8 games and it is common knowledge that his quality was not in doubt in any of those 8. He got rave reviews every time he played. Favoritism stopped him from playing more, not quality


Kelechi, on the other hand, has been a disappointment all season and we cannot repay a woeful performance with an AFCON spot. You see that chance you are saying Rohr should have given him, he could have gotten it himself. If Owerri witches were not working overtime to kill his destiny, he should have scored that goal against City, the goal that could have helped Liverpool to the title. That was the opening he had to get the opportunity, that would have been enough to give him a 70% chance at AFCON, but when he missed it, he missed the AFCON

Rohr likes Kelechi, so accusing Rohr of not giving him a chance or whatever is petty and disappointing.


You've been going on and on about this thing and all of your arguments leave me feeling more and more disappointed. You're starting to sound desperate and ridiculous.

Kelechi is out, nobody can wail him back into the squad, he is the architect of his own misfortune. Even if Onuachu and Osimhen go to AFCON and mess up, they will still be better choices than Kelechi, because I'm not seeing what Kelechi would have done.

He isn't special. He's ordinary, and he is now becoming abysmal. I hope he finds his mojo at some point, but I'm not counting on it. He doesn't have the drive.


Let us face the AFCON and face the players in it. You and Icon79 and others that keep assuming Kelechi is still 16-years old and playing U17, need to allow us move on.

Please get that I am not excited with Rohr’s system and I feel his system will be deterring to Nacho's progress. So I am not acting desperate or wishing Rohr gave Nacho a chance. If Rohr was a coach who plays in an expressive, possessive and offensive fashion, then I will feel bad. Unfortunately he doesn't.

Why should Nacho's chance fall to a miss? It shows he did not have enough chances to excel. Playing few minutes in Rodgers system gave him a good chance. Five of those and KC might bury four.

I was wondering why Rohr did not give Nacho a shot in the friendly and I felt it was to prevent a confusion from people criticising his choice. Not that I am saying Rohr should have played him.

My expectation lies in Brendan Rodgers getting Nacho up to speed with his system and giving him run of games. As Rodgers said, when Nacho gets his chances, he will take it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:32am On Jun 14, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Not explosion. I think is more of misunderstanding by people.

There are strikers that thrive on goals. Others can escape with being bullies and power players.

Nacho thrives on goals but he can not score if he does not have good number of chances. Finishing is a numbers game.

Under Puel and Shakespeare, coupled with limited run of games, the chances he had were in systems that do not give him chances. He met the same under Rohr’s system. So people took it as a career implosion.

Fortunately for the young man, he has a coach who understands the system of creating chances and developing players to get tuned to it. So a run of games in the system will show Nacho still has the quality people feel is no more there.

Finito.

And if he fails to take his chances again, what would the excuses be?

Remember it was Rohr at the helms when he was banging in goals for Nigeria at the start of his national team career.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:33am On Jun 14, 2019
theblackjack76:
Your trademark font style is still fresh in my mind. cheesy
Welcome back bro.


grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:40am On Jun 14, 2019
joseph1013:


And if he fails to take his chances again, what would the excuses be?

Remember it was Rohr at the helms when he was banging in goals for Nigeria at the start of his national team career.

I already pointed out earlier Rohr lost his mojo after the loss to South Africa. He changed his strategy and started set up the team not to lose instead of to win. Thus it affected the offensive play of the team.

Nacho is yet to fail with a run in an offensive system. I wonder where you got that again. When the run of games comes, he will take his chances.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 7:40am On Jun 14, 2019
Earthquake3:


The result speaks for itself

If China defeated South Africa, they will trash S. Korea
China that could only muster a goal against a one woman South African will trash South Korea.
Loll
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 7:46am On Jun 14, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I already pointed out earlier Rohr lost his mojo after the loss to South Africa. He changed his strategy and started set up the team not to lose instead of to win. Thus it affected the offensive play of the team.

Nacho is yet to fail with a run in an offensive system. I wonder where you got that again. When the run of games comes, he will take his chances.
And what's stopping him from moving to a club where this great offensive style that suits him is the formation?

We can't keep blaming coaches for the failed career of one player.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:57am On Jun 14, 2019
joseph1013:

And what's stopping him from moving to a club where this great offensive style that suits him is the formation?

We can't keep blaming coaches for the failed career of one player.

It does not happen by the snap of the fingers and Nacho is now with one of the masters of the system, Brendan Rodgers. No need to move but give the coach time. Nacho needs to focus on his development under the current manager.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:57am On Jun 14, 2019
Danielnino00:
Taiwo Awoniyi on Nigeria national team snub:

"Actually for me if a player is trying his best in his club, you believe you are doing the best you can and if you don’t get called-up, not even once, you’ll be sad about it, that is the truth, but there is nothing you can do about it. You just have to keep on working and keep on believing in yourself, that is football. I am a believer.”

Matured boy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:59am On Jun 14, 2019
Danielnino00:


The bolded actually defines Brendan Rodgers very well... I can give u a list of players he signed at Liverpool either on loan or permanently and a few talented academy players that he couldn't manage at the club..He either let them leave or left them to rot on the bench...

He is singing Iheanacho praise now.. when the season starts we will know what's up...

Isn't he not the one that signed markovic ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:01am On Jun 14, 2019
OMANBALA1:
Since camp started I haven't heard anything from Ighalo

Even thou there is news about ighalo nobody will talk about it and you know why
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:09am On Jun 14, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Please get that I am not excited with Rohr’s system and I feel his system will be deterring to Nacho's progress. So I am not acting desperate or wishing Rohr gave Nacho a chance. If Rohr was a coach who plays in an expressive, possessive and offensive fashion, then I will feel bad. Unfortunately he doesn't.

Why should Nacho's chance fall to a miss? It shows he did not have enough chances to excel. Playing few minutes in Rodgers system gave him a good chance. Five of those and KC might bury four.

I was wondering why Rohr did not give Nacho a shot in the friendly and I felt it was to prevent a confusion from people criticising his choice. Not that I am saying Rohr should have played him.

My expectation lies in Brendan Rodgers getting Nacho up to speed with his system and giving him run of games. As Rodgers said, when Nacho gets his chances, he will take it.


FUCCCK Iheanacho. Iheanacho is not the only person in the team, football is a team sport, not an individual sport. if Iheanacho's progress is all that concerns you, tell him to go play tennis or golf, or a sport that will revolve around him.

Which one is Rohr's style will be detrimental? Was it not under Rohr that he amassed ten goals in the GWG? Suddenly, the same coach has a style that will be detrimental to him? How? Rohr, Puel, Pep, soon, it will be Rodgers who should make tactical formations for Iheanacho.

F.U.C.KKK Iheanacho

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:10am On Jun 14, 2019
safarigirl:

Balogun and Iheanacho had two completely different situations

Aside the fact that Balogun is tested and trusted in the GWG, he has also been consistent

Even with the sparse games he got in Brighton, he never disappointed. He played just 8 games and it is common knowledge that his quality was not in doubt in any of those 8. He got rave reviews every time he played. Favoritism stopped him from playing more, not quality


Kelechi, on the other hand, has been a disappointment all season and we cannot repay a woeful performance with an AFCON spot. You see that chance you are saying Rohr should have given him, he could have gotten it himself. If Owerri witches were not working overtime to kill his destiny, he should have scored that goal against City, the goal that could have helped Liverpool to the title. That was the opening he had to get the opportunity, that would have been enough to give him a 70% chance at AFCON, but when he missed it, he missed the AFCON

Rohr likes Kelechi, so accusing Rohr of not giving him a chance or whatever is petty and disappointing.


You've been going on and on about this thing and all of your arguments leave me feeling more and more disappointed. You're starting to sound desperate and ridiculous.

Kelechi is out, nobody can wail him back into the squad, he is the architect of his own misfortune. Even if Onuachu and Osimhen go to AFCON and mess up, they will still be better choices than Kelechi, because I'm not seeing what Kelechi would have done.

He isn't special. He's ordinary, and he is now becoming abysmal. I hope he finds his mojo at some point, but I'm not counting on it. He doesn't have the drive.


Let us face the AFCON and face the players in it. You and Icon79 and others that keep assuming Kelechi is still 16-years old and playing U17, need to allow us move on.

Madam it seems you are concerned about the goal he didn't score against mancity ?

So if he scored against mancity he has had a nice season and he will go to afcon abi just because he help Liverpool win the league ?

Either kelechi scored against mancity or not it can't change the fact that he has been bad this season and he doesn't deserve afcon spot ,no need for all this your long talk of not scoring against city ,I can see why you are angry with him it's because of that goal

My naija people I hail una o ,so a goal against mancity will send a player to afcon ? And it will make it a better season by making it 2 goals in 30 games ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:13am On Jun 14, 2019
joseph1013:


And if he fails to take his chances again, what would the excuses be?

Remember it was Rohr at the helms when he was banging in goals for Nigeria at the start of his national team career.
Exactly what I was saying

He was banging in goals under Rohr, suddenly the same coach doesn't have a style that suits the god that can do no wrong.

Kelechi should get a coaching certificate, buy a team, and coach them, so that they will play in a manner that suits him, because at this point, there is no club or team that will play to his strength and even if there were, he wouldn't be good enough for them to consider him

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:18am On Jun 14, 2019
andrew444:


Madam it seems you are concerned about the goal he didn't score against mancity ?

So if he scored against mancity he has had a nice season and he will go to afcon abi just because he help Liverpool win the league ?

Either kelechi scored against mancity or not it can't change the fact that he has been bad this season and he doesn't deserve afcon spot ,no need for all this your long talk of not scoring against city ,I can see why you are angry with him it's because of that goal

My naija people I hail una o ,so a goal against mancity will send a player to afcon ? And it will make it a better season by making it 2 goals in 30 games ?

It was Onuachu's one goal that blew him into reckoning for AFCON, Idowu's goal against Argentina sent him to World Cup, Uchebo's goal sent him to World Cup, so yes, one goal can send you to AFCON

But like I said, that chance that goodjoe said Kelechi deserved against Zimbabwe, he would have gotten it if he got that goal against City. That goal would have been the memory people have of him, because ir was a decider. The importance of that goal was enough to forgive most of his shitty season.

You underestimate the importance of one goal. Maybe cuz you are attaching it to some other sentimental thoughts

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:23am On Jun 14, 2019
safarigirl:


It was Onuachu's one goal that blew him into reckoning for AFCON, Idowu's goal against Argentina sent him to World Cup, Uchebo's goal sent him to World Cup, so yes, one goal can send you to AFCON

But like I said, that chance that goodjoe said Kelechi deserved against Zimbabwe, he would have gotten it if he got that goal against City. That goal would have been the memory people have of him, because ir was a decider. The importance of that goal was enough to forgive most of his shitty season.

You underestimate the importance of one goal. Maybe cuz you are attaching it to some other sentimental thoughts

Okay o ,you make point sha

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:07am On Jun 14, 2019
IHeanacho is the star of the team. And the team should be built around him grin.
safarigirl:



FUCCCK Iheanacho. Iheanacho is not the only person in the team, football is a team sport, not an individual sport. if Iheanacho's progress is all that concerns you, tell him to go play tennis or golf, or a sport that will revolve around him.

Which one is Rohr's style will be detrimental? Was it not under Rohr that he amassed ten goals in the GWG? Suddenly, the same coach has a style that will be detrimental to him? How? Rohr, Puel, Pep, soon, it will be Rodgers who should make tactical formations for Iheanacho.

F.U.C.KKK Iheanacho

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 9:14am On Jun 14, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Please get that I am not excited with Rohr’s system and I feel his system will be deterring to Nacho's progress. So I am not acting desperate or wishing Rohr gave Nacho a chance. If Rohr was a coach who plays in an expressive, possessive and offensive fashion, then I will feel bad. Unfortunately he doesn't.

Why should Nacho's chance fall to a miss? It shows he did not have enough chances to excel. Playing few minutes in Rodgers system gave him a good chance. Five of those and KC might bury four.

I was wondering why Rohr did not give Nacho a shot in the friendly and I felt it was to prevent a confusion from people criticising his choice. Not that I am saying Rohr should have played him.

My expectation lies in Brendan Rodgers getting Nacho up to speed with his system and giving him run of games. As Rodgers said, when Nacho gets his chances, he will take it.



Ur analogy of rohr system not favoring nacho to me is so myopic,normally when one expresses his point with gud english sentences, one will sound intelligent grin grin,but na lie...safari gave a point of him scoring 10goals under rohr,den it was favourable,because he's no longer scoring,rohr system is no longer favourable

He has played under 3different managers,pep,puel and now Rodgers...yet to u d system is not offensive enuf


Oga make we hear word,u re not plausible with ur points,it's getting absurd,is he d only player in d team


Its like saying a student who studied in University of Ibadan came out with third class,blaming d system for d failure,he took a new undergraduate course again in anoda african university,still came out with third class,tried another university in europe again,came out with third class again,is it d system u will still blame or d student?


Maybe till when nacho plays in 7different clubs/leagues, he will get d right system undecided

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:34am On Jun 14, 2019
elyte89:




Ur analogy of rohr system not favoring nacho to me is so myopic,normally when one expresses his point with gud english sentences, one will sound intelligent grin grin,but na lie...safari gave a point of him scoring 10goals under rohr,den it was favourable,because he's no longer scoring,rohr system is no longer favourable

He has played under 3different managers,pep,puel and now Rodgers...yet to u d system is not offensive enuf


Oga make we hear word,u re not plausible with ur points,it's getting absurd,is he d only player in d team


Its like saying a student who studied in University of Ibadan came out with third class,blaming d system for d failure,he took a new undergraduate course again in anoda african university,still came out with third class,tried another university in europe again,came out with third class again,is it d system u will still blame or d student?


Maybe till when nacho plays in 7different clubs/leagues, he will get d right system undecided



the guy even score under the puel system sef

even safarigirl wey be him fans don komot hand for matta but ah no con under oga QUOTES again wit e system talk chaii
dis nacho mata no go choke person here oo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by soetanoreoluwa(m): 9:50am On Jun 14, 2019
OMANBALA1:
Since camp started I haven't heard anything from Ighalo

Just recovered from injury. He has his first full training session yesterday with other team member.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:05am On Jun 14, 2019
safarigirl:
Exactly what I was saying

He was banging in goals under Rohr, suddenly the same coach doesn't have a style that suits the god that can do no wrong.

Kelechi should get a coaching certificate, buy a team, and coach them, so that they will play in a manner that suits him, because at this point, there is no club or team that will play to his strength and even if there were, he wouldn't be good enough for them to consider him

Calm down Miss grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:07am On Jun 14, 2019
BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Sources reaching me is that NACHO is grossly over age, hence his regressing, and eventually dropped from the Afcon square


oya oga ANDREW444 d age cheat catcher

oga CHRISKEL awon capentary crew

and averaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeee bear palour crew

make una come confirm an oo,

cos the sauce dey verrrrryyyy hhhhoooottttt grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:08am On Jun 14, 2019
soetanoreoluwa:


Just recovered from injury. He has his first full training session yesterday with other team member.

Uncertainties surrounding his full fitness level before the AFCON. which is why Rohr didn't drop any of the other 2 CFs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 10:13am On Jun 14, 2019
OMANBALA1:
Since camp started I haven't heard anything from Ighalo

The guy is not 100% fit
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:16am On Jun 14, 2019
Icon4s:


Calm down Miss grin
the Iheanacho worship is too much.

If we are worshipping Iheanacho like this, what would have happened if we had Salah or Mane?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:39am On Jun 14, 2019
do4luv14:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Sources reaching me is that NACHO is grossly over age, hence his regressing, and eventually dropped from the Afcon square


oya oga ANDREW444 d age cheat catcher

oga CHRISKEL awon capentary crew

and averaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeee bear palour crew

make una come confirm an oo,

cos the sauce dey verrrrryyyy hhhhoooottttt grin

In time past we have all agreed and linked early regression of our players to age cheating.

But it now seems our problem is not just age cheating.

The 2013 and 2015 were very young crops that we were really looking at to see if that trend of early regression will change but alas it is looking like the same old old story.

6 years after the 2013 boys played the U17 WC only Francis Uzoho, who was an unused substitute, is left in the Super Eagles team. And that one sef na manage because we lack credible options.

The 2015 U17 has two, but hope they can maintain their development.

Meanwhile there are several previous Eaglets generations that we tagged age cheats that still went further to provide quality players that played long for the national team.

I remember my argument with TheSuperNerd like 4-5yrs ago: "Chemical reactions with the same reagents irrespective of the Catalyst will always give u the same product".

There was this clamor then and push for many of those Manu/Amuneke boys to be pushed into the Super Eagles. Players that were not tested at senior professional level.

Was I being too conservative? Now you be the judge.

Moving forward after some of us have seen the career trends of many of those recent U17 stars are we still going to expect likes of Akinwunmi Amoo, Wisdom Ubani and Olusegun to be "World beaters", " New Ronaldo" , or "New Iniesta"?

Our problem is not only age cheating but also our football development structure.

You now understand why a club will value an average Brazilian, Spaniard or Argentine 17years old more than a 17yrs old Nigerian who just won an U17WC MVP.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 10:39am On Jun 14, 2019
do4luv14:
BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Sources reaching me is that NACHO is grossly over age, hence his regressing, and eventually dropped from the Afcon square


oya oga ANDREW444 d age cheat catcher

oga CHRISKEL awon capentary crew

and averaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggeeeeeeeee bear palour crew

make una come confirm an oo,

cos the sauce dey verrrrryyyy hhhhoooottttt grin

Lol

Broda abeg leave nacho o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:40am On Jun 14, 2019
safarigirl:
the Iheanacho worship is too much.

If we are worshipping Iheanacho like this, what would have happened if we had Salah or Mane?

Ok, no vex for the worshippers grin
Please calm down. smiley

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