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Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by Nobody: 4:52pm On Jun 13, 2019
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This is how gullible 2 million foolish Igbo perish for a lunatic that fooled them only to run to Ivory Coast when it was time for him to stand up for you.


Frustrated old f00l. undecided
Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by obafemee80(m): 5:55pm On Jun 13, 2019
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Can you pls share with the the link to the Sahara reporters where this is being said. I will like to read on how Babagana was involved

http://saharareporters.com/2019/06/10/june-12-special-12-judases-june-12-who-betrayed-mko-abiola-hope-93

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Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by Nobody: 6:34pm On Jun 13, 2019
franchasng:
Awolowo had more Yoruba followership than any other Yoruba politician or even the then Western Governor Fajuyi.

Awolowo had the power to influence the outcome of the 1967 events in Southwest, he wielded so much power and influence in Southwest Nigeria which was why he was jailed by Tafawa Belewa, and part of what pushed the young soldiers (from Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Kanuri, Ijaw, Bini, etc) to carry out the first coup of 1966 that was later wrong labeled as Igbo coup.

Biafra soldiers didn't invade western Nigeria to kill or conquer, it was a plan initiated by a brave Yoruba officer fighting on the side of Biafra, as a way to end the war fast, so the few trained professional Biafra soldiers were deployed to capture Lagos the seat of power so that Gowon could relocate the Nigerian government to Kaduna and allow Biafra to go in peace.

Mind you, this happened when Gowon mobilized Nigerian soldiers to attack Biafra from Calabar and Enugu, so Biafra soldiers decided to attack Nigeria from Lagos the seat of power.

It was never meant to capture or kill Yorubas, at least a Yoruba man was the one heading that operation and there was no way he could have allowed the killing of his own people, which was also the reason he halted the advancement of Biafra soldiers and which made some Biafra military intelligence to accuse him and Ifeajuna and others of coup, and they got executed for that.

You are just giving out false fact and contradictory statements. I do not know why you guys derive joy in twisting history.

First of all, Ojukwu never released Awolowo from prison, that was a lie conjured by your kinsmen for propaganda purpose. Yakubu Gowon released Awolowo from prison and you can see the attached image below, he even gave an interview about the reason why he did.

Seondly, based on what you wrote here, you said Ojukwu plan was not to kill any Yoruba in lagos and that brave Yoruba soldiers initiated the move to capture the federal seat in Lagos, but you at the same time said the Yoruba soldiers halted when they got to Owo, For what reason? The two statements are contradictory and shows you really do not know what you are saying.

In war, everything is fair. i have the clip where Ojukwu was boasting about how he will crush Nigeria in few month which is why I am not surprised when Kanu keep dishing out propaganda caz I think it is in the blood. They understand that most of their kinsmen are swayed by sentiments and will always beleive everything from them, which is also what explained why nearly 45% of a population will believe Buhari is from Sudan, even the educated inclusive.

You expect Awolowo to keep feeding your soldiers so that they can keep prolonging the war?. You should even be grateful to him because if that step is not taken, the war might last longer and the casualties might be even more than the 3 million figure.

In life, knowledge, diplomacy and critical thinking most times win situation over than just power. The people from the east believe too much in using power alone without critical thinking and diplomacy which to me is one of the reasons why they always find themselves on the losing side.

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Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by switsylver: 10:11pm On Jun 13, 2019
Favor99:

I don’t remember what Awolowo exactly did that people branded him a traitor. But one mans mistake does not mean the whole tribe are traitors.
I have plenty of Yoruba friends, and I’m sure they would never backstab me cool
Wow! Apart from Awolowo a Yoruba betrayed my father too. They are very dubious. If you have Yoruba friend just keep your boundary because they can betray you any time. TRUTH!!!!
Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by stinggy(m): 7:14am On Jun 14, 2019
franchasng:
Awolowo had more Yoruba followership than any other Yoruba politician or even the then Western Governor Fajuyi.

Awolowo had the power to influence the outcome of the 1967 events in Southwest, he wielded so much power and influence in Southwest Nigeria which was why he was jailed by Tafawa Belewa, and part of what pushed the young soldiers (from Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Kanuri, Ijaw, Bini, etc) to carry out the first coup of 1966 that was later wrong labeled as Igbo coup.

Biafra soldiers didn't invade western Nigeria to kill or conquer, it was a plan initiated by a brave Yoruba officer fighting on the side of Biafra, as a way to end the war fast, so the few trained professional Biafra soldiers were deployed to capture Lagos the seat of power so that Gowon could relocate the Nigerian government to Kaduna and allow Biafra to go in peace.

Mind you, this happened when Gowon mobilized Nigerian soldiers to attack Biafra from Calabar and Enugu, so Biafra soldiers decided to attack Nigeria from Lagos the seat of power.

It was never meant to capture or kill Yorubas, at least a Yoruba man was the one heading that operation and there was no way he could have allowed the killing of his own people, which was also the reason he halted the advancement of Biafra soldiers and which made some Biafra military intelligence to accuse him and Ifeajuna and others of coup, and they got executed for that.

Yes, Awolowo has civilian followership. Does that translate to military strength? Did he control the military or the security apparatus? If he had declared like you people claim he promised, how would he have ensured the safety of his people? Can he even command an army unit as a civilian "leader" under military rule? Or should he have declared first, waste some Yoruba lives and then wait for Biafran army (that was under the easy control of Ojukwu) to arrive after like 5 days to save the remaining Yorubas

I believe you have listened to the full transcript of their discussion in Enugu and deep down, you know Awo never promised any secession but then that fact doesn't suit the tales who want your children to hear about 1967.

About Banjo and the Yorubas that fought on the Biafran side, they fought based on their beliefs and allegiances, never as a part of the grand scheme that the secession was supposed to be a whole southern affair. I do not begrudge them for their choices and I would have made same choice too based on my belief. But the claim that it was agreed that Awolowo would declare secession in the West is nothing but lie!

Banjo's advice to march fast into the West before the Nigerian army form any resistance (which would have ensured no Yoruba life was wasted and endear the Yorubas to the Biafran army) was rebuffed twice by Ojukwu. It was after the Nigerian army had set up formations that Ojukwu asked Banjo to proceed, which the latter naturally advised against. There wasn't any way million lives would not be wasted if the West turned to battleground.

Like I said, you know the truth but you're not just ready yet to tell the whole world.


***Sorry for the late reply, I had a busy day
Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by stinggy(m): 7:49am On Jun 14, 2019
franchasng:
Have there ever been any rehabilitation or restitution paid to Igbos by Nigerian government since the end of the war Instead there has been gang up against Igbos to ensure they do not ever rise to become President in Nigeria by all tactics.

Do you know Awolowo also made a policy that seized all the money Igbos had in Nigerian banks before the war such that no matter how many million an Igbo person owned in Nigerian banks before the war, they were given just 10 shillings or so, is that not wickedness of man to fellow man

He also made the indigenization policy that took over all industries in Lagos and handed it to himself Awolowo and other Yorubas to ensure Igbos don't get hold of any industry they owned in Lagos before the war started and to ensure only indigenes of a state can own an industry in their state. This made Awolowo rich then. Awolowo glass house Ikeja, so many industrial layouts in Lagos, etc.


Do you know after the 1st world war, European court fined Germany millions of Euros they must pay to other smaller European nations they destroyed their properties, infrastructures, humans, etc as compensation, which was part of what also caused the 2nd world war.

Germany still paid huge sum of money to some European nations as compensation after 2nd world war ended.

Total forgiveness comes after restitution.

Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis hardly show empathy to the plight of Igbos, instead they brag about what they did to Igbos during the war, so u see why forgiveness is difficult here

Igbos who had saving in the West withdrew their money and left with their properties with the aim for going to back to their country, never to return to Nigeria, at least, not so soon. When the war settled down and they returned to Lagos, the same Awolowo you like to hate came out with a policy of giving each of them 10 shillings to help resettle them. Giving money back to those who willingly emptied their accounts before leaving.
Name one Igbo company that was not returned. Name one Igbo street that was renamed to Yoruba.
Was it the same situation in Mid-west The now "Okpe road" in Sapele was before the war known as "Igbo road". All the shops in Bendel and many other places owned by Igbos were taken over by the indigenes. Did the Yorubas do that to you? Have you for once criticized these people for renaming your streets and illegally taking over your properties? Are you afraid to confront them?
Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by franchasng: 7:56am On Jun 14, 2019
stinggy:


Yes, Awolowo has civilian followership. Does that translate to military strength? Did he control the military or the security apparatus? If he had declared like you people claim he promised, how would he have ensured the safety of his people? Can he even command an army unit as a civilian "leader" under military rule? Or should he have declared first, waste some Yoruba lives and then wait for Biafran army (that was under the easy control of Ojukwu) to arrive after like 5 days to save the remaining Yorubas

I believe you have listened to the full transcript of their discussion in Enugu and deep down, you know Awo never promised any secession but then that fact doesn't suit the tales who want your children to hear about 1967.

About Banjo and the Yorubas that fought on the Biafran side, they fought based on their beliefs and allegiances, never as a part of the grand scheme that the secession was supposed to be a whole southern affair. I do not begrudge them for their choices and I would have made same choice too based on my belief. But the claim that it was agreed that Awolowo would declare secession in the West is nothing but lie!

Banjo's advice to march fast into the West before the Nigerian army form any resistance (which would have ensured no Yoruba life was wasted and endear the Yorubas to the Biafran army) was rebuffed twice by Ojukwu. It was after the Nigerian army had set up formations that Ojukwu asked Banjo to proceed, which the latter naturally advised against. There wasn't any way million lives would not be wasted if the West turned to battleground.

Like I said, you know the truth but you're not just ready yet to tell the whole world.


***Sorry for the late reply, I had a busy day
You are correct in most of your comments, but Ojukwu didn't delay the entry into Lagos, for what reason, no way.

Anyway, Awolowo did brought the betrayal and distrust between SE and SW based on his roles during and immediately after the war.

I know Yorubas love him so much for the free education he gave to SW, and will never admit Awolowo did Igbos wrong just as Igbos admit that Nnamdi Azikiwe did some wrongs too.

The Igbo leaders that messed up at that time are:

1. Nnamdi Azikiwe
2. Aguiyi Ironsi (for unifying Nigeria which Ojukwu and others advised against, he paid with his life, sadly)
3. Maj. Ifeajuna for leaking the coup secret to Nnamdi Azikiwe who fled Nigeria on pretence of a medical leave.
4. Some of the young Igbo officers who allowed tribal sentiments to make them spare Igbo leaders marked for elimination in that unfortunate coup which made other tribes see it as an Igbo coup which it was never.

These are the Igbos that bleeped up!

Awolowo brought the distrust between Igbos and Yorubas out of his overambitiousness to become Nigeria's President at all cost!

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Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by franchasng: 8:03am On Jun 14, 2019
stinggy:


Igbos who had saving in the West withdrew their money and left with their properties with the aim for going to back to their country, never to return to Nigeria, at least, not so soon. When the war settled down and they returned to Lagos, the same Awolowo you like to hate came out with a policy of giving each of them 10 shillings to help resettle them. Giving money back to those who willingly emptied their accounts before leaving.
Name one Igbo company that was not returned. Name one Igbo street that was renamed to Yoruba.
Was it the same situation in Mid-west The now "Okpe road" in Sapele was before the war known as "Igbo road". All the shops in Bendel and many other places owned by Igbos were taken over by the indigenes. Did the Yorubas do that to you? Have you for once criticized these people for renaming your streets and illegally taking over your properties? Are you afraid to confront them?
Ojukwu's father's properties were not returned in full.

My uncle had millions in Lagos banks before the war, he was a popular merchant then, another was a railway engineer working with the colonial masters and was among the heads before the war, he didn't withdraw any money.

The war took him unawares because he just returned from London on a training, he had no time to withdraw, after the war, he was sacked, his money was stolen, Awolowo policy made him get only 10 shillings, his house was never recovered.

Let me not open more wounds and let the sleeping dog lie.

Yes Yorubas were far better in giving Igbos back their properties after the war than other regions, but not all were returned.

Awolowo profited a lot from the war, he used the opportunity to enrich himself and tribesmen, especially with that indigenization policy.

I am tired of writing more, would have given u more facts with pics from my family archive, just tired
Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by Nobody: 3:56pm On Jun 14, 2019
franchasng:
Not really. Igbo peoples' anger against Yorubas didn't start today, it started between 1966 - 1969 when Ojukwu and Awolowo had an unofficial agreement that as Ojukwu declares Biafra freedom, Awolowo will declare Odudua freedom so that there won't be any need for north to drag or fight so that Nigeria will peacefully divide in 1966/67.

Ojukwu and other Eastern officers believed and trusted Awolowo because Awolowo always stood for Yoruba interest and always against Nnamdi Azikiwe and Akintola and co who preferred Nigeria remaining one, so they believed Awolowo will declare Odudua republic and make the division of Nigeria easy and peaceful without war.

This was the reason Ojukwu facilitated the release of Awolowo from jail at Enugu where Tafawa Belewa/Azikiwe jailed Awolowo for treason, and Ojukwu gave him special escort back to Western region.

But Awolowo got to Lagos and Gowon offered him mouth watering political appointment as Finance Minister, Awolowo reneged on the unofficial agreement he had with Ojukwu.

So when Ojukwu declared Biafra as an independent state amidst a widespread pogrom against Igbos living in Northern Nigeria, Gowon first didn't want to go after Biafra until British government told Gowon not to accept it, so Gowon declared Police action to return Biafra back to Nigeria and that was how he mobilized Nigeria military to invade Biafra and return them back to Nigeria and the war broke out after several negotiations at Aburi Ghana failed.

And when the war started, Biafra was gaining ground, almost winning the war before British government and Egypt stept in with massive military support for Nigeria, and Nigeria also sold Bakasi oil rich land to acquire military weapons to defeat young Biafra which was proving difficult for Nigerian army, until Awolowo again suggested a harsh hunger policy to Gowon, which involved changing Nigeria's currency so it will be difficult for Biafra government to import food and drugs for her citizens as the war intensified and this led to mass hunger and malnutrition in Biafra land, causing Biafra soldiers to start turning to saboteurs leaking secrets to Nigerian soldiers just to get food to eat.

This torn Biafra apart and Biafra government officials and commanders started persuading Ojukwu to surrender to avoid further hunger and deaths of Biafrans, at the end, Ojukwu was forced to board a flight to go on exile in Ivory Coast while his vice from today Akwa-Ibom, Philip Effiong surrendered Biafra to Nigeria, and the war ended.

So Igbos saw Awolowo as a great betrayal that betrayed Biafra and Ndigbo, that was the beginning of the distrust
Your story is filled with lies, half truth, exaggeration and bias.
Re: June 12 Presidential Election Result And Why IBB Annulled It by Alejobs: 4:40pm On Jun 16, 2019
Can we pray our way to security as a nation or we need serous overhaul of our security architecture?

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