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Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 5:26pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:It is just stop now. What are their main contribution to science? AT least, you may learn from there. |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 5:27pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
vaxx: Borrow Google from your neighbor. Just type Ernst Mayr. After reading about him, type E. O. Wilson. ![]() |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 5:28pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:Neither of those two were creationists! I've posted about them above! |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 5:30pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:i ask again what are their contribution to science? Don't be petty |
Re: Evolution 101 by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:31pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
budaatum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ Watch the movie God vs Evolution and be prepared to have your faith shaken. Over 3 million views already. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Evolution 101 by EmperorHarry: 5:33pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
I'm still not sure why people tend to treat evolution like it's not a work in progress. There are missing links yet to be discovered and theories yet to be made logical and rational.This doesn't mean evolution has not been observed,tested and agreed upon as a phenomenon by the scientific community just like gravity and revolution of the earth around the sun.It becomes a problem when certain evolutionists create based on extrapolation and assumptions an explanation of the origin of life due to evolution thereby creating an illusion of refuting other theories that are for the same purpose. 2 Likes |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 5:33pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
budaatum:well, they don't need to be labelled a creationist before you called them one. Any idea that reject the mainstream science is a conspiracy theory. And about them, they are not even an authority on the subject, they have NOT produce well noted experiment to validate their claim and their claim have not receive a single award from any recognised authority. |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 5:34pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
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Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 5:38pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU:This isn't the first time you've posted this junk and I've bothered to watch it. The evidence for evolution far outweights that for creationism and a simple use of a brain would show which is more valid. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 5:38pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:Evolution theory was recently tested in chemistry lab thru lab tube late last year and the winner won 1 million dollar....... https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06753-y |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 5:38pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
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Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 5:41pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
[quote author=DoctorAlien post=79331656][/quote] You see how you failed. What experiment have they perform that is currently used till date or any award they have received on evolution? |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 5:41pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
[quote author=DoctorAlien post=79331656][/quote] Very good. Now, can you provide anything similar and worthy as that for any creationist on your list of scientists? |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 5:48pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
budaatum: It means nothing bro. If anything, these awards only signify acceptance within the ruling paradigm. Is anybody going to give you awards if you keep challenging their evolutionary teachings? We both know the answer. I posted those pictures though to show vaxx that the people who recognized the distinction between historical science and operational science were/are high-profile evolutionists. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 5:58pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:their idea and claim is weak then. If there was as much of a gap as they claim, forensic sciences wouldn’t exist. . It just a common sense bro. All science makes observations and conclusions about the past or future based on those observations. In fact, it should be easier to tell the past than the future because the past leaves evidence. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Evolution 101 by EmperorHarry: 6:00pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
vaxx:Evolution is closely related to,if not adaptation which is a observable and verified phenomenon in nature. So in no way should an open minded knowledge seeker dismiss evolution due to anthropocentric or supercilious mentality such an overwhelmingly evident phenomenon as a hoax. It's very much a possibility and does no harm but it's still a work in progress and largely based on human inputs which is susceptible to errors. Humans are related to apes and monkeys through a common ancestor. Okay! Whales share a common ancestor which was a land animal but somehow evolved into aquatic animal with a blowhole.Okay? Probably needs more work since Darwin assumed the land animal was a "bear". Giraffes for a while didn't have a transitional fossil until recently(which may or may not be evidence of how the giraffes neck became long). So you see,work in progress and that's what it should be seen as.Certain evolutionists tend to give this "we have all the evidence" vibe that shows the same arrogance and close mindedness that certain creationists have. |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 6:05pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:All scienctifc theory are work in progress. Science is not an enterprises that stand still like immovable stream. Exploration, investigation , identification are non stop in science. I am not in the mood to write much today, i will explore some of your input later ... |
Re: Evolution 101 by EmperorHarry: 6:16pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
vaxx:We're on the same page here.I hope you don't see my comments as a disapproval of the evolution theory cos on the contrary I'm approving of it to an extent which I've clearly explained. I am not in the mood to write much today, i will explore some of your input later ...I just wanted to make it clear that evolution is still a work in progress to whom it may concern. |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 6:22pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:just like any scienctifc field. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 6:39pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:No, we both don't appear to "know the answer"! You can challenge anything you want if you have evidence to back you up, otherwise you are just some crackpot whom sensible people will rightly ignore. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 7:00pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
The prominent evolutionist Professor Richard Lewontin said (emphases in original): “We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.” Lewontin, R., Billions and billions of demons, The New York Review, January 9, 1997, p. 31. (Source) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 7:05pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
This is abject rubbish! Our "prior commitment" is to creationism, which we adhered to but which we are now abandoning in light of superior information and an improvement in our ability to reason and understand. DoctorAlien: |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 7:07pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
The atheist paleontologist, Stephen Jay Gould, made the following candid observation: “Our ways of learning about the world are strongly influenced by the social preconceptions and biased modes of thinking that each scientist must apply to any problem. The stereotype of a fully rational and objective ‘scientific method’, with individual scientists as logical (and interchangeable) robots is self-serving mythology.” Gould, S.J., Natural History 103(2):14, 1994. (Source) Cc: Budaatum 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 7:11pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
budaatum:You mean what Prof. Richard Lewontin wrote? Our "prior commitment" is to creationism, which we adhered to but which we are now abandoning in light of superior information and an improvement in our ability to reason and understand.You are talking about yourself right? Because Prof. Richard Lewontin spoke about himself and other scientists. |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 7:15pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
That "candid observation" applies to crappy scientists! Stephen Jay Gould himself would never claim that's what he does! If you learn your science in a proper school you would have had your subjective "preconceptions and biases" properly educated out of you and would have learnt to use your senses properly. DoctorAlien: |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 7:17pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:why are you appealing to authority. You are commiting a fallacy. It is not needed in this kind of discussion unless we want scrutinised their model of enquiry which is not needed. 1 Like |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 7:20pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
budaatum: Easy, easy, easy. Now calm down, and slowly read that quote by Stephen Jay Gould again. Note the word "our". |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 7:24pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
Evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts do not go away while scientists debate rival theories for explaining them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's, but apples did not suspend themselves in mid-air pending the outcome. And human beings evolved from apelike ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other, yet to be discovered. [...] Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science, “fact” can only mean “confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.” I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms. "Evolution as Fact and Theory", Stephen Jay Gould pp. 254–55 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Evolution 101 by DoctorAlien(m): 7:26pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
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Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 7:31pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:I find it insulting when people ask me to "read again". They are implying that I am not using my mind when the truth is it is they who don't use their's. If you read the writings of Stephen Jay Gould, you would not be taking him out of context and you definitely would not be using creationdotcom's spin on him to try to prove the point you are trying to prove here. Read the quote from him above and learn! |
Re: Evolution 101 by budaatum: 7:35pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:It's likely you are taking what he wrote out of context just as you have done with SJG. I'm certain that's what creationdotcom does or how else would they get you and your sort, their only source of income, to send them money? |
Re: Evolution 101 by vaxx: 7:36pm On Jun 14, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:You are making a big more mistake, budaatum was only playing along with your erroneous claim when You commit the fallacy. Evolution is an open science via a vis lab science. You don't need to appeal to authority before you make a claim. I think your best contribution here so far lies with the fact that some unknown scientists says otherwise therefore evolution must be wrong...... |
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