Hamid7:
Argentina went to copa with same players that showed complete lack of mentality all these years. Their problem is not lack of talent. I only pity Messi.
Reaching the quarters may boost their mentality.

Yes I really pity Messi. look at all the average players in Argentina compared to Colombia who had world class players everywhere idiot your Goat is a fraud.

Neymar1095:

Yes I really pity Messi. look at all the average players in Argentina compared to Colombia who had world class players everywhere idiot your Goat is a fraud.

A look at your previous comments showed you're one of the many dummies on Nairaland. SHAME!!!

Lana1:
True.

BUT....


See chance wey Higuain miss. God punish Higuain

At least he was the play maker yet he got himself into a scoring position to even miss that chance.

Aguero was the striker, yet nobody can highlight any chance that Aguero missed.

Show us one abeg.

Lana1:
True.

BUT....


See chance wey Higuain miss. God punish Higuain

tesppidd:
True talk.
Temperament should never come into the debate!
We don't care!!

1.We don't want to hear the word "complete"
2.We also don't want to hear "who is the better leader?"


The argument was always about; Who's the best player?

Until some fans boys felt intimidated by that question and felt better asking;

"Who is more complete?"
Or
"Who is the better leader?"



All we want to know is;

"Who Is the best player?"

The talk about humility led to the talk about completeness.

So ojoro cancel.

now lets talk of trophies

like how diverse they can be,
(1)National Teams trophies
(2)Different leagues trophies
(3)Different club trophies

not to worry lets just limit it to number (1)

You go first.

Bwhahaha how many chances did the so called playmaker create for the striker? None Man dropped a disasterclass




bullshit bullshit bullshit

Neymar1095:

Yes I really pity Messi. look at all the average players in Argentina compared to Colombia who had world class players everywhere idiot your Goat is a fraud.

it's Colombia's fault for fighting back. Didn't They know it was a GOAT who deserved all the good things in world football.

How we are supposed to believe that he would be able to pull off the same standard of performances for other clubs playing with a different ethos & with different players.
Struggles against some of the easiest teams. Can't replicate his play style with Argentina because his play style is directly influenced by Barcelona. Your mcm is the biggest system player ever. Ororo is the Goat

Melvyn11:
How we are supposed to believe that he would be able to pull off the same standard of performances for other clubs playing with a different ethos & with different players.
Struggles against some of the easiest teams. Can't replicate his play style with Argentina because his play style is directly influenced by Barcelona. Your mcm is the biggest system player ever. Ororo is the Goat

He's just not an inspiring figure for the rest of the team, when things aren't going well or outside his comfort zone he appears to just give up. Messi has beome very lazy,no longer runs at all just walks around sulking

I watched the game last night and Argentina are too static for Messi to play anywhere near his usual level.
Ronaldo is a lot easier to play with because he's not a player who needs to find space in midfield he just needs to stay close to goal and will make something happen with his movement or heading ability
If I needed a player to win a World cup or champions league final I would pick Ronaldo because you know what you will get with him where as Messi is a much superior player but his game just doesn't suit that type of football and struggles to lead a team. Messi needs specific game pattern or style of play does that make h a system player Maybe.

Kimbeast:
I watched the game last night and Argentina are too static for Messi to play anywhere near his usual level.
Ronaldo is a lot easier to play with because he's not a player who needs to find space in midfield he just needs to stay close to goal and will make something happen with his movement or heading ability
If I needed a player to win a World cup or champions league final I would pick Ronaldo because you know what you will get with him where as Messi is a much superior player but his game just doesn't suit that type of football and struggles to lead a team. Messi needs specific game pattern or style of play does that make h a system player Maybe.

And when a player who can only shine in a particular system goes to a team without that pattern he flops like Messi does with Argentina and that's why he can never leave Barca. He knows what will happen. A barca fan that is objective and Truthful your kind is rare.

Melvyn11:

And when a player who can only shine in a particular system goes to a team without that pattern he flops like Messi does with Argentina and that's why he can never leave Barca. He knows what will happen. A barca fan that is objective and Truthful your kind is rare.

Guy Am not a Barca fan

Melvyn11:
How we are supposed to believe that he would be able to pull off the same standard of performances for other clubs playing with a different ethos & with different players.
Struggles against some of the easiest teams. Can't replicate his play style with Argentina because his play style is directly influenced by Barcelona. Your mcm is the biggest system player ever. Ororo is the Goat

I have memories of Ronaldo struggling against world class super teams like Hungary, Iceland, Iran, North Korea.

Melvyn11:
How we are supposed to believe that he would be able to pull off the same standard of performances for other clubs playing with a different ethos & with different players.
Struggles against some of the easiest teams. Can't replicate his play style with Argentina because his play style is directly influenced by Barcelona. Your mcm is the biggest system player ever. Ororo is the Goat

I still refuse to accept that there are people who believe and want us to believe that playing for Manchester United of 2004-2008, Real Madrid and Juventus amounts to proving oneself!
Just don't know how any body thinks that any sensible person would take that.

Only 2 clubs in the world can never be bullied over a player; Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Ronaldo left Madrid because Real Madrid values him 70 percent.
Messi cannot leave Barca because Barca value him 99.9 percent.


Everyone knows that if Messi was interested in touring Europe "to prove a point",
Messi would be a serial trophy winner with Bayern, Man City and Barcelona today.

usbcable:


The talk about humility led to the talk about completeness.

So ojoro cancel.

now lets talk of trophies

like how diverse they can be,
(1)National Teams trophies
(2)Different leagues trophies
(3)Different club trophies

not to worry lets just limit it to number (1)

You go first.

Really?

So what led to "better cheerleader, better motivator?"

Only Ronaldo fan boys talk about "diverse" here and there.
That is like focussing on forreplay and ignoring the real deal.

For instance Messi has got about 8 league titles.
Ronaldo has got about 2 with Man U, 2 with Madrid and 1 with Juve. Only Usbcable and his cohorts would tell the world that Ronaldo has done better with league titles because they are "diverse".
Diverse!!!
Seriously?


Again Messi has scored over 602 goals for Barca in 700 apps while Ronaldo has scored about 602 goals for Man U, Madrid and Juve in 850 apps. Only a Ronaldo fan boy would tell us that Ronaldo's goals are superior because they are "diverse".



And as for the National teams;
Sure Ronaldo has won one trophy, but the argument remains a Messi versus Ronaldo argument. And it cannot be concluded rationally and without sentiments that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

Ronaldo led his team to the Euro 2016 final and Messi led his team to A World Cup final and 2 Copa America finals.
Ronaldo missed the final as his team mates secured it, Messi played and lost on penalties. There is no conclusion that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

And as for the just concluded friendly tournament Euro Nations league, it is not even worth an Olympic Gold.

TLona1:


Oga shift!

No be this same Messi use dribhle finish dem Giggs, Carrick, Fletcher, JS Park, Nani and co that time for UCL final?

There's no space. Where do you want me to shift to na??

tesppidd:
At least he was the play maker yet he got himself into a scoring position to even miss that chance.

Aguero was the striker, yet nobody can highlight any chance that Aguero missed.

Show us one abeg.

Because he's the playmaker now means him missing chances is justified? This is the same thing people here yab Coutinho for o.

Anyways, wasn't it Aguero that crossed the ball in for that chance?

How many did Messi have? Playmaker that had no key pass or accurate crosses.

tesppidd:
Really?

So what led to "better cheerleader, better motivator?"

Only Ronaldo fan boys talk about "diverse" here and there.
That is like focussing on forreplay and ignoring the real deal.

For instance Messi has got about 8 league titles.
Ronaldo has got about 2 with Man U, 2 with Madrid and 1 with Juve. Only Usbcable and his cohorts would tell the world that Ronaldo has done better with league titles because they are "diverse".
Diverse!!!
Seriously?


Again Messi has scored over 602 goals for Barca in 700 apps while Ronaldo has scored about 602 goals for Man U, Madrid and Juve in 850 apps. Only a Ronaldo fan boy would tell us that Ronaldo's goals are superior because they are "diverse".



And as for the National teams;
Sure Ronaldo has won one trophy, but the argument remains a Messi versus Ronaldo argument. And it cannot be concluded rationally and without sentiments that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

Ronaldo led his team to the Euro 2016 final and Messi led his team to A World Cup final and 2 Copa America finals.
Ronaldo missed the final as his team mates secured it, Messi played and lost on penalties. There is no conclusion that Ronaldo is better than Messi.

And as for the just concluded friendly tournament Euro Nations league, it is not even worth an Olympic Gold.

Yawwns.... Olympic gold is worth more than Euro Nations League

Let him lift a trophy for Argentina National team even if its a Cup of Tequila...we dey wait

tesppidd:
I still refuse to accept that there are people who believe and want us to believe that playing for Manchester United of 2004-2008, Real Madrid and Juventus amounts to proving oneself!
Just don't know how any body thinks that any sensible person would take that.

Only 2 clubs in the world can never be bullied over a player; Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Ronaldo left Madrid because Real Madrid values him 70 percent.
Messi cannot leave Barca because Barca value him 99.9 percent.


Everyone knows that if Messi was interested in touring Europe "to prove a point",
Messi would be a serial trophy winner with Bayern, Man City and Barcelona today.

Talk is cheap. you are talking in if language....if this if that . Your Goat has never left his comfort zone and that's a fact. Your goat has never won anything meaningful thing without Barca . You goat continues to flop with Argentina it's becoming a disgrace. Your Messi can not win even a spoon with a country like Argentina if it's levante or eibar he will enter 89mins score five goals and celebrate like he just discovered the cure of Hiv la liga merchant.

Melvyn11:

Talk is cheap. you are talking in if language....if this if that . Your Goat has never left his comfort zone and that's a fact. Your goat has never won anything meaningful thing without Barca . You goat continues to flop with Argentina it's becoming a disgrace. Your Messi can not win even a spoon with a country like Argentina if it's levante or eibar he will enter 89mins score five goals and celebrate like he just discovered the cure of Hiv la liga merchant.

Messi is not a European.

Ronaldo needs to leave his comfort zone in Europe and go to South America or Africa to prove himself.

He needs to go to Sao Paolo or Memolodi Sundowns to prove himself.

Then I would take him seriously.

Melvyn11:

Talk is cheap. you are talking in if language....if this if that . Your Goat has never left his comfort zone and that's a fact. Your goat has never won anything meaningful thing without Barca . You goat continues to flop with Argentina it's becoming a disgrace. Your Messi can not win even a spoon with a country like Argentina if it's levante or eibar he will enter 89mins score five goals and celebrate like he just discovered the cure of Hiv la liga merchant.

Ronaldo be feeding on the souls of his team mates and be claiming glory upandan.

He needed Eder to carry him in 2016.

He needed Guedes to carry him in 2019.



Biggest fraud of the century.

Kimbeast:
I watched the game last night and Argentina are too static for Messi to play anywhere near his usual level.
Ronaldo is a lot easier to play with because he's not a player who needs to find space in midfield he just needs to stay close to goal and will make something happen with his movement or heading ability
If I needed a player to win a World cup or champions league final I would pick Ronaldo because you know what you will get with him where as Messi is a much superior player but his game just doesn't suit that type of football and struggles to lead a team. Messi needs specific game pattern or style of play does that make h a system player Maybe.

tesppidd come and read the words of a sensible Barca fan. Your goat is a system player

usbcable:


Yawwns.... Olympic gold is worth more than Euro Nations League

Let him lift a trophy for Argentina National team even if its a Cup of Tequila...we dey wait

GOAT debate;

80 percent of the time people discuss Messi, Maradona and Pele.

For the first time ever certain fan boys want to equate Euros and Euro league to the FIFA world cup.

Euros ain't no world cup.


2014 world cup; player of the tournament Messi.
2015 Copa America; player of the tournament Messi.
2016 Copa America player of the tournament Messi.
Junior world cup 2005 player of the tournament Messi.
Olympics 2008 player of the tournament Messi.

Ronaldo ZERO player of the tournament.

Tells the whole story; how Messi excels for his NT while Ronaldo is being carried by hs team mate Eder and Guedes at finals.

Melvyn11:

tesppidd come and read the words of a sensible Barca fan. Your goat is a system player

System player?

How did he become the best player at the following tournaments?

*World cup 2014.
*Copa America 2015.
*Copa America 2016.
*Under 20 world cup 2005.
*Olympics 2008.

How does a system player become the MVP of 5 international competitions?

Need to task your brain more.

Maradonna the man the myth the legend

tesppidd:
GOAT debate;

80 percent of the time people discuss Messi, Maradona and Pele.

For the first time ever certain fan boys want to equate Euros and Euro league to the FIFA world cup.

Euros ain't no world cup.


2014 world cup; player of the tournament Messi.
2015 Copa America; player of the tournament Messi.
2016 Copa America player of the tournament Messi.
Junior world cup 2005 player of the tournament Messi.
Olympics 2008 player of the tournament Messi.

Ronaldo ZERO player of the tournament.

Tells the whole story; how Messi excels for his NT while Ronaldo is being carried by hs team mate Eder and Guedes at finals.

Bwhahaha
Messi who never scored in the knockout stages but was MVP lol
Damn!
But when Ronaldo scores in the semis but not in the finals (one which he was injured) then "he was helped by teammates" Guy you are a clown.

Uh Melvyn11, you have won. Please go to another thread. We agree just carry your sensibilities somewhere else. Your noise is becoming too much... Thanks in advance

How did Messi who scored only one goal in the Copa América 2015 which was a penalty in the group stages was voted MVP is pure bullshit. Man went back to back competition for Argentina without scoring a single goal. Man is a Fraud

Melvyn11:
Maradonna the man the myth the legend

Maradona?

I had thought we were discussing Messi and Ronaldo.

That's the life of Messi!!!


Get compared to Pele, Maradona and Ronaldo in one swing.

Neymar1095:
How did Messi who scored only one goal in the Copa América 2015 which was a penalty in the group stages was voted MVP is pure bullshit. Man went back to back competition for Argentina without scoring a single goal. Man is a Fraud

Go and read for jamb

Melvyn11:

Bwhahaha
Messi who never scored in the knockout stages but was MVP lol
Damn!
But when Ronaldo scores in the semis but not in the finals (one which he was injured) then "he was helped by teammates" Guy you are a clown.

MVP's in internationals are not awarded according to your own lowly standards and your limited football intelligence.


Having said that;

Just explain to me how a system player can be the best player at 5 internationally recognized competitions.

*FIFA world cup.
*Copa America 2015
*Copa America 2016.
*Olympics 2008.
*FIFA Under 20 world cup 2005.


Just explain how, or shut your mandibles for life.

tesppidd:
Messi is not a European.

Ronaldo needs to leave his comfort zone in Europe and go to South America or Africa to prove himself.

He needs to go to Sao Paolo or Memolodi Sundowns to prove himself.

Then I would take him seriously.

You be Mumu I swear.

So Ronaldo needs to leave Europe and go to south america to do what exactly? Is Portugal in South america?

FYI, if Portugal were invited to partake in that joke of a tournament, they will easily dispatch all those useless Columbia. Their only problem might be Argentina and Brazil. Though we can rule out Argentina since messi never inspires them enough.

Ronaldo is winning trophies in the toughest tournament, you dey talk about S.A.