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Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:18pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
vaxx:You are the one making a claim about the possibility of reincarnation. And since it's a free for all, I figured it was a good time to bring up my equally ludicrous and impossible two shoulders and four heads especially since it seems no evidence was required for either claim which, according to you, need "not be based on elements of truth". I'd call it fantasy world myself, where one can't blatantly lie and anything is a possibility. But I honestly don't know nor live in such a world where buda has two shoulders and four heads and pigs have wings and fly! |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:21pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:It's not the same as the dead dead we were talking about! Let me know if you are asking what happens to the brain dead. There is a clear difference. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by EmperorHarry: 3:22pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:Nope.If you claim to have four heads on two shoulders then it's a possibility until evidence is provided that either supports this claim or refutes and renders it invalid. It would be prejudice on my part to dismiss your theory based on what I feel is logical or illogical.That's the scientific method. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by vaxx: 3:25pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:I found your rebuttal not interesting. Seriously. I provide data and info to back up my claim. I didn't cough it out my throat Buddha. A well thought out individual will engage me on the possibility of my presentation by looking at the data I presented and how explicabe and applicable they maybe. And not replying me with ludicrous response no ones learn that way. . |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by EmperorHarry: 3:26pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:Its the dead dead we're talking about. Everybody dies from brain death. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:27pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
vaxx:Emperor, please see definition of 'dead' as given by vaxx. This is the 'dead' I am talking about. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:35pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
vaxx:You presented no data at all. What you presented, in your own words was, "speculation", which you claim was a "possibility", but which so far in the entire human history has never been shown to have possibly happened. And to be honest vaxx, as usual, you don't intend to learn, but expect to ram crap down buda's throat! And you must forgive buda for stubbornly resisting! Go read about Jung's psychological perspective on reincarnation. You'd see it's an idea that has value despite it not ever happening in the real world. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by vaxx: 3:44pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:primary data ( DNA sequence), keyhole sequence, blood transmission sequence. Secondary data ( Replication of trait, pre determined event). Yet you said i don't present any data. I doubt you do science at school not write a literature reveiw for once. When it comes to learning, you need that advice very fast than i do. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:44pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:I don't think any scientist would consider buda's two shoulder four head unless buda actually presents some evidence actually. If buda just asserts two shoulders and four heads like buda has done on here, most scientist would just label buda a crackpot and not give buda the time of day. That is what credible scientists do with creationism, at least, and creationism has a lot more going for it than buda's two shoulders and four heads. Read here to see how scientists treat buda's two shoulder and four heads if you care. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:54pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
vaxx:Like I said, did I dig up the wrong post? I don't see any "(DNA sequence), keyhole sequence, blood transmission sequence" nor "Secondary data (Replication of trait, pre determined event)" in your post which I've replicated below so future readers might point it out to me if you don't! There's nothing in what you presented below that could possibly qualify as "science at school" or "literature review". Not only is it not "science", its not even "literature" either! vaxx: In fact, after reading it again, I laugh, vaxx! |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by vaxx: 3:56pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:case closed Buddha. Hardly can I welcome this no more. I don't spoonfed adult. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 3:58pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:So, you do mean the dead, the sort that is not kept alive by any means whatsoever because its dead, so cremate it or put it in a box and put it in a hole so it don't stink and where it becomes worm food. Shall buda rest? |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 4:01pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
vaxx:You can't close a case vaxx. You always come back and hit me with the same tripe under a different guise and buda shall be patiently waiting. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by vaxx: 4:02pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:when you improved. Hit back at me. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 4:03pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
vaxx:Lol. I love you vaxx. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by EmperorHarry: 4:17pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:Yes buda..you may rest now 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 4:27pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:Thank you sir. We, will live! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by EmperorHarry: 4:45pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:I doubt that science would dismiss your claim without objectively verifying it's credence.The larmack's theory of evolution is still been researched till today even though it has been called a crappy theory since Darwinism became mainstream. There are creation scientists who research and test evidences that support creationism.They are scientists and also use the scientific method and if they come up with irrefutable evidence in support of creationism it becomes a valid theory once tested and verified by different scientists to cancel out subjective biases and errors. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by budaatum: 6:44pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
EmperorHarry:Larmack's theory of evolution is not quite as "crappy" as you claim. It's survived in one form or another for over 2000 years so something must be seen in it. buda's two shoulder four heads on the other hand, is less than a day old having been formulated today, and honestly speaking, you are the only one willing to consider it, and I doubt you are seriously considering it at that since unlike vaxx who at least did ask for some evidence, you haven't asked for any. I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of today you too don't label me and my two shoulders and four heads, delusional perhaps, or just outright claim buda is gone bonkers in all four heads. I'd like to be wrong though. Between us, we just might be able to make something of my ludicrous not even theory of two shoulders and four heads. Can we call it Emperor's Theory please? |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by EmperorHarry: 7:42pm On Jun 15, 2019 |
budaatum:Lamarck's theory isn't crappy(except to supporters of the Darwinian theory) and could just be plausible in light of recent evidence(an article I read about the epigenome or something] but when compared to Darwin's theory it tends to have a rather shaky theoretical foundation.The Darwinian theory explains in more verifiable details how evolution occurs through natural selection.This is one of the advantages Darwin's theory has over Lamarck's theory.You can find out more by googling this. Buda's two shoulder four heads on the other hand, is less than a day old having been formulated today, and honestly speaking, you are the only one willing to consider it, and I doubt you are seriously considering it at that since unlike vaxx who at least did ask for some evidence, you haven't asked for any.Lol..I'm pretty sure you aren't convinced of how plausible your claim is.My unscientific mind would say your losing one or two bolts for making such a illogical statement considering all humans only have one head but my scientific mind would be curious to know why you made such statement and would be open to any evidences backing this claim.After observation, testing,verification of these evidences I would come to conclusion either in favour of or against your claim which temporarily promotes it from a hypothesis to a scientific theory or discard it as just an hypothesis(this decisions are liable to change in light of new evidences). I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of today you too don't label me and my two shoulders and four heads, delusional perhaps, or just outright claim buda is gone bonkers in all four heads. I'd like to be wrong though. Between us, we just might be able to make something of my ludicrous not even theory of two shoulders and four heads.Lollll on this one...If your serious about this "four heads two shoulders theory of yours" which it seems you aren't (lol) then we might just be able to make something out of it and silence the naysayers sitting in their ivory towers of logic and rationality.Lmao "We" prolly should just call it the Cerberus theory. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by Jozzy4: 2:13pm On Jun 16, 2019 |
TruthinAction: Hell is a woman Between Eve and Hell, which is the first woman ? |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by TruthinAction: 2:23pm On Jun 16, 2019 |
Jozzy4: Not a physical woman. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by Jozzy4: 2:33pm On Jun 16, 2019 |
TruthinAction: Woman is woman. Answer my question: Eve or Hell, which is the first woman ? |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by oaroloye(m): 5:27pm On Jun 16, 2019 |
SHALOM! vaxx: The AfterLife is more important than First Life, because it is permanent. The sensible person fears AfterLife damage more than First Life damage. Therefore, anyone aiming to control people in First Life must convince them of AfterLife Security. . MATTHEW 25:31-46. 31. "When The Son of Man shall come in his Glory, and all the Holy Angels with him, then shall he sit upon The Throne of his Glory: 32. "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33. "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34. "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, 'COME, YE BLESSED OF MY FATHER, INHERIT THE KINGDOM PREPARED FOR YOU FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD: 35. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED, AND YE GAVE ME MEAT: I WAS THIRSTY, AND YE GAVE ME DRINK: I WAS A STRANGER, AND YE TOOK ME IN: 36. 'NAKED, AND YE CLOTHED ME: I WAS SICK, AND YE VISITED ME: I WAS IN PRISON, AND YE CAME UNTO ME.' 37. Then shall the Righteous answer him, saying, 'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED, AND FED THEE? OR THIRSTY, AND GAVE THEE DRINK? 38. 'WHEN SAW WE THEE A STRANGER, AND TOOK THEE IN? OR NAKED, AND CLOTHED THEE? 39. 'OR WHEN SAW WE THEE SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND CAME UNTO THEE?' 40. "And the King shall answer and say unto them,[/color] 'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, "INASMUCH AS YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE MY BRETHREN, YE HAVE DONE IT UNTO ME." ' 41. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, 'DEPART FROM ME, YE CURSED, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS: 42. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED, AND YE GAVE ME NO MEAT: I WAS THIRSTY, AND YE GAVE ME NO DRINK: 43. 'I WAS A STRANGER, AND YE TOOK ME NOT IN: NAKED, AND YE CLOTHED ME NOT: SICK, AND IN PRISON, AND YE VISITED ME NOT.' [44. "Then shall they also answer him, saying, 'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE AN HUNGRED, OR ATHIRST, OR A STRANGER, OR NAKED, OR SICK, OR IN PRISON, AND DID NOT MINISTER UNTO THEE?' 45. "Then shall he answer them, saying, 'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, "INASMUCH AS YE DID IT NOT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE, YE DID IT NOT TO ME." ' 46. "And these shall go away into Everlasting Punishment: but the Righteous into Life Eternal." THE OYINBOS BUILT A WORLD-SPANNING EMPIRE, BASED ON THE CLAIM TO SPEAK WITH AUTHORITY ON THE SECURE AFTERLIFE FATE OF THOSE WHO OBEYED THE AUTHORITY OF THEIR CHURCH AND GOVERNMENT- WHICH WERE ONE-AND-THE-SAME. If you died as a Good Citizen- especially when said citizen was an invading, plundering, raping, and murdering Government Soldier- you were assured that you would meet with a favourable AfterLife: namely, you would Heaven, and live in comfort for the rest of Eternity. No one had a procedure to debunk that notion. MEDIUMISM was very big on the claim to be able to "Channel" the spirits of the Dead, if one really wanted to know what happened to your loved ones after their deaths. Whereas there were a number of talented fakers, who could read MicroExpression "Tells," and therefore know how to tell clients exactly what they wanted to hear, there were some who genuinely tapped into Spiritual Sources, and could prove beyond all doubt that they really were in contact with Entities who had access to the memories of the Departed in question. When the Oyinbos discovered that they were the last to know of the existence of the Americas, they found out that the people there had sophisticated Knowledge of Death and the AfterLife, based on the DIRECT PERCEPTION of Spiritual Reality. This was facilitated by the use of potions that enhanced Spiritual Perception. That is to say, if you wanted to know what happens when people die, there is a Drug that they could give you, that would enable you to witness it for yourself, by killing you. They had an antidote to the Drug that they would administer just in time to enable you to recover from the poisonous Drug that was killing you. [See: THE WAY OF THE SHAMAN, by Michael Garner.] The Experience of Dying triggers a Vision Experience in which certain Entities claim to be our Creators and Owners of our Souls. The Purpose of these visions seems to be to waste our time looking at them, instead of taking necessary action to save our lives. Those who have the Discipline to *see* beyond the Visions find out that they are delusions and illusions, and the Reality is that some Beings are getting set to feed off of our Souls! Without this Discipline, taking Drugs to *see* into the Spiritual Realm is recklessly foolish, and usually worthless. Most Oyinbos abusing these "Hallucinogenic Plants" never achieve useful results. It is THAT Knowledge that they particularly needed to suppress. [See: JOURNEY TO IXTLAN: The Lessons of Don Juan, by Carlos Castaneda. THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda. THE ACTIVE SIDE OF INFINITY, by Carlos Castaneda.] TruthinAction: THE OYINBO PRIESTS WHO STUDIED THE SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE COMPILED BY THE NATIVE AMERICANS, IMMEDIATELY SAW THAT IT WOULD UNDERMINE THEIR RELIGION, BASED ON DISTORTION OF THE BIBLE, THAT CORROBORATED ALL THEIR FINDINGS. They were able to get away with their lies by banning the laity from reading The Bible for themselves. The only way to cover this Knowledge up was to kill everyone who knew about it. This meant killing thousands into millions of not only Native Americans, but also their own people, too. oaroloye:
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Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by oboy81: 3:26am On Jun 17, 2019 |
TruthinAction:Would you say you are Practicing your life well now sir? |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by TruthinAction: 7:26am On Jun 17, 2019 |
oboy81: I don't practice life, I live the new life in Christ. There are obvious temptations and sometimes I make errors but I don't live in errors. I simply ask for forgiveness and move on. Jesus did not only save us, he made provisions for our mistakes but you don't abuse such privilege. If you make mistakes, be quick to ask for forgiveness and he will forgive you. Just lean on his mercy and grace to see you through. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by hayoholla(m): 10:26am On Jun 18, 2019 |
vaxx: are you saying we will and must explore all possible realities? |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by vaxx: 10:51am On Jun 18, 2019 |
hayoholla:obviously, realities is ambiguous in this context. Unless you provide a definition of the kind of reality you mean. |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by hayoholla(m): 11:00am On Jun 18, 2019 |
budaatum: I have always maintained the stance that a developed nation is the one whose cultural and traditional belief is homogeneous o their religious/ spiritual belief, save for maybe few countries like Brazil, that adopted syncretism, but all this countries are no where developed 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by hayoholla(m): 11:11am On Jun 18, 2019 |
budaatum: A "ship" is just a nomenclature for a specific (not generalising for any object that float in water) object made of steel that float on water. so a ship that has it pat completely stripped off and replaced with a new part entirely will no longer be the old ship, but a new one. language sometimes can be insufficient to explain some very complex and tricky phenomena. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Actually Happen After Death? Black Emptiness Or New Dimension Of Life by hayoholla(m): 11:46am On Jun 18, 2019 |
vaxx:y By realities, I mean cause - effect, Action - Reaction |
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