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Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by MrBONE2(m): 4:48pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
majamajic: But in KiVuKi Land we hayaaf never use fuel We only used Fire wood
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Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by deomelo: 4:50pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
sean079: The privatization process was based on corruption and cronyism, they handed Nigeria's power assets to their cronies with zero knowledge about electricity and power management for pennies. They don't have money to invest and grow their operations with and the banks won't borrow them one kobo their business is based on corrupt, shaky and incompetent model. Nigerians are experiencing the sad effects of heir crooked and corrupt decisions. The GENCOs should be rolling out all kinds of products from wind energy to solar and so on, but they can not because they are chronically in debt and the DISCOs on the other hand can not pay for energy deliveries because they are also poor and in debt so how do you encourage the average energy investor to invest in our power sector. Nigerians are not even ready start paying full price for anything, they still want everything subsidized like babies with feeding bottles. I don't see 24/7 electricity anytime soon. |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 4:53pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
9jaRealist:Gas is cheap enough and very close to good number of gencos. Any other explanation are largely circumstantial. They power system men have no excuse to again. Oga, metering of electricity isnt a expensive undertaken, has never been and would never be. You can prove me wrong. What we have a corrupt system where nothing logical is given a chance to happen. |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by nerorex01: 5:02pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
Yeaah Petrochem is the name i was trying to remember OlujobaSamuel: |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by dangoteinlaw: 5:02pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
Jonegonu:how much can a that cost I'm total? Plus one AC split included? |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 5:06pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
deomelo:You don't task GENCOs to roll out various energy type/solutions like solar, wind and electricity. What sane nations do is allow anybody who can generate power most cost efficiently for a chosen power type do the power generation. That's why you hear of periodic power auction where top solar GENCOs for example try to deliver the best deal to their client or the government. Go research the last paragraph and confirm it if true so you can stop blaming past admin senselessly and endlessly. APC is not the first govt to have a predecessor. Let them improve power instead of pointing finger at the privatization process. Same corruption ravaging oil and other key sector is what is ravaging the power sector. Where is the improved supply Fashola promised us in exchange for tariff increase early 2016? Where are the prepaid meters. |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:08pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
CodeTemplar: How could you have so completely missed the obvious point? The GENCOs do NOT produced gas (or own gas acreages), and thus if the domestic pricing of gas (which again is terribly CAPITAL INTENSIVE) is artificially suppressed or otherwise rendered unattractive, the gas producers are less incentivized or otherwise less-inclined to invest in domestic gas gathering and supply facilities - especially when they can get much better returns by investing in gas projects for export. Producers are NOT sitting on an inexhaustible amount of “free” investible capital. Accordingly, most (if not all) capital intensive production projects require debt financing, and if the producer approaches its bankers or such other financiers with unattractively-priced projects they are either going to be rebuffed or compelled to pay much higher (risk-reflective) rates that would render the project less economically viable. > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:12pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
bendike: Thought Mr. Chidioka’s Plain English words were clear enough... But as I read through deomelo’s comments I suspect he’s ‘blinded’ by political partisanship. > 1 Like |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 5:15pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
9jaRealist:Oga gas is affordable at a competitive rate, the structures to supply it are largely in place ( save for vandalism based interruptions ) so what exactly are you concocting here? |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by adollyboy(m): 5:18pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
So what is wrong in that? |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 5:22pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
9jaRealist:The dude even suggested that GENCOs generate alternative energy themselves. He isn't fair at all. To task GENCOs on that will be to ask the GENCOs to do the government's job. In serious nations what they do is encourage capable private firms to bid and the best bidder takes the tasks of supplying power for each category. He is fixated on blaming past admin. 1 Like |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:22pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
sean079: But the DISCOs did NOT build the present electricity distribution infrastructure... If you (and the government still owns 40% of the DISCOs) them to modernize/expand the existing dilapidated infrastructure, then you have to fulfill the premise of the electricity sector reform roadmap (of which the partial privatization is merely one part of) by completing and/or satisfying all other associated and ancillary steps thereto (including the EXPRESSLY-stated provision for COST-REFLECTIVE tariffs). You certainly cannot lock the DISCOs into a loss-certain price regime and expect them to overhaul 60 years worth of poor infrastructure in 4 years. > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:28pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
CodeTemplar: Which structures? Can you please share with us how many gas gathering and processing facilities are presently available in Nigeria (and be specific wrt location)? And do you know how much these facilities cost (or why a Nigerian producer like Seven Energy became insolvent)? > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:31pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
CodeTemplar: Let’s not even yet delve into gas distribution facilities in a vast country like Nigeria, which even you admit is prone to wanton vandalism... Why were several of the completed NIPP power plants not operational, if not for the lack of gas and gas distribution infrastructure? > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by tck2000(m): 5:33pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
Ok |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by deomelo: 5:34pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
CodeTemplar: [s]That's why you hear of periodic power auction where top solar GENCOs for example try to deliver the best deal to their client or the government. Power generation in Nigeria as we speak is a private affair aka Privatization where any entity including the GENCOS and other investors so exactly what are you rambling about? Is privatization by definition not to allow investors to explore other forms of power generation and transmission? Is there any law in Nigeria against that. Do we even have to tell the GENCOS and DISCOs to diversify and get into wind, solar and so on? Is power generation and distribution not their job? As usual, jokers like you just love to hear yourself ramble on and on over nothing. Not even interested in the rest of your lame rant. |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:42pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
CodeTemplar: According to the federal regulator NERC’s own figures... Single-phase meters should cost about N38K while three-phase meters cost about N67K. Accordingly, for a DISCO with (for example) about 1 million consumers, that anywhere from N38 billion to N67 billion right off the bat (without factoring in installation, maintenance or other logistics or associated costs). > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by mastermaestro(m): 5:48pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
ibietela2: 24/7 power supply with your sanity intact. You can't compare it to the madness of diesel/petrol power generators. Why do you think many Nigerians have mental disorder? The noise and air pollutions are killing the health of Nigerians. 3 Likes |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:57pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
deomelo: Yes, there is.... DISCOs cannot generate power. They are only licensed to distribute power. Therefore, they can distribute (but NOT generate) alternative power supplies. Meanwhile, any potential investor in generation (including GENCOs) will require separate licenses and permits to construct and operate renewable energy plants of more than 30MW capacity (see current NERC regulations). > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 5:59pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
Pavore9: Clean portable water usually is... > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 6:00pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
adollyboy: He’s NOT complaining or saying anything is wrong with that... |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 6:06pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
ibietela2: I’m not a solar energy salesperson... But if you take a LONG TERM view, it’s probably the CHEAPEST form of energy. > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
duality: Don't be too fast to cast your lots . . . https://www.nigeria.total.com/total-nigeria/better-energy-projects-nigeria/totals-onigbagbo-solar-powered-service-station-paves-way-better-energy |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by Nobody: 6:08pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
mastermaestro: U are so right. The noise can make you so restless in the night you will end up not sleeping and we know what lack of sleep does to the system. Is it the pollution? Ewh. They don't know that the noise and restlessness affects the brain. 1 Like |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 6:09pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
9jaRealist:That's the problem. You are going by the figure of a fellow collaborator agency in the power sector corruption issue. NERC is Just an extension of the corrupt power sector men. |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by 9jaRealist: 6:13pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
CodeTemplar: Feel free to share your own credible independent figures... We cannot continue to run away from fact-based analyses in Nigeria. > |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by bluefilm: 6:15pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
Oga Osita, I don't understand Biko, regarding what you saw, is this supposed to be a good news or a bad news |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by duality(m): 6:21pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
Bagehot: You mean they don't use gen or nepa in that petrol station? Please find out. I'm realistic abeg |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 6:22pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
deomelo:Old dog hardly learn new tricks, still always trying to win arguments with irrelevant facts instead of addressing issues for what they are. Who is arguing with you about definition of privatization? Listen to yourself. You are not making sense yet. That bold part is super dumb idea. You don't mandate a gas turbine owner to start generating solar or wind energy the way you are suggesting. This is a forum and not a occult meeting or dictatorship setting where they order to do things out of a general consensus or assumption. Are you going to give the solar owner interest free loans to start a solar factory of farm? |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by CodeTemplar: 6:25pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
9jaRealist:Stop passing the buck to me. You back up your claims of lack of such facilities or show us the GENCOs lacking them outrightly. |
Re: Osita Chidoka: "Fuel Station Depends On Solar Panels For Electricity Now" by goodnewsbabe: 6:32pm On Jun 17, 2019 |
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