Humans killed humans before God the Creator of Humans ever did.

And the reason God the Creator of humans first killed humans was because humans were killing so much humans to the extent that the Earth was filled with much human blood.

So the first time God the Creator of humans killed humans was because He had to kill humans to prevent humans from killing humans.

And the first human to kill a human was Adam's son, Cain:

Genesis 4:8 (KJV)

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

And it seemed that first instance of a human killing a human had unlocked the door for humans to kill humans as it wasn't long afterwards before it was said:

Genesis 6:11 (KJV)

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

So it was the extent to which humans killed humans that made God to regret making man upon the Earth for humans had filled the Earth with blood:

Genesis 6:6 (KJV)

6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

And the reason it grieved Him so much in His heart that He had made humans upon the Earth was because the extent to which humans killed humans and filled the Earth with human blood made Him to have to kill humans, for if He didn't make humans, He would not have to kill humans.

For God's inclination was to create, not to kill or destroy, so when God creates humans and then has to kill the humans that He created because humans killed humans, it makes God to regret ever creating humans, for it's better that He didn't create humans at all, than having to kill humans after creating them.

And the reason God killed humans for the first time could be corroborated with this instruction that God gave to all the humans who yet remained alive upon the Earth after God first killed humans:

Genesis 9:5-6 (KJV)

5 And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
6 Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

Therefore the reason God killed humans for the first time was because humans killed humans and filled the Earth with much human blood, so this instruction that God gave to the humans that remained yet alive upon the face of the Earth was to prevent such a situation where He would have to kill the humans He created again.

So God has never been inclined to kill or destroy the humans that He created, for the Spirit of God is not the spirit of destruction but the Spirit of creation, so whenever God kills or destroys the humans He created, it's only because God had to kill humans, because God is responsible for His creation.

And God had an opportunity to show humans what His inclination was when He came to the Earth in the human form, for despite all the provocations, persecutions and even death etc., He suffered in the hands of the humans that He created, He never killed one single human while He was human on Earth, even though He had the power to destroy all humans on Earth with just one single strike.

For instead He was using His Power to heal, deliver and save human lives(Luke 4:40-41, Luke 7:12-15, John 11:41-44).

And He proved that it was not a mere coincidence but a deliberate act by His response when His disciples had suggested that humans be killed with fire from heaven as Elijah a prophet of God had done in the past. For it was said:

Luke 9:55-56 (KJV)

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

So He didn't kill any single human despite that He had the Power in Him to kill and destroy all humans while He was Human here on Earth, because (the Spirit of) God is not inclined to destroy human lives but to save them.

And moreover He said this to His disciples (humans) to make them to be likewise and also not be inclined to destroy human lives but to save them as God their Creator is.

So any idea or suggestion of humans to posit God their Creator as someone who delights in killing or destroying the lives of the humans He created, is only borne out of ignorance, for despite that God has the right to do this being their Creator, God has never been inclined to destroy human lives but to save them.

For the only reason God killed humans was because God had to kill humans.

"And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 (KJV)

Something must kill a man

I think you are getting it a little wrong. GOD never destroyed the world because of only the killings. GOD destroyed the world because of most of their sexual immorality. Like lesbianism, gayism, prostitution and other sexual sins. The sexual immorality of the people in those times was the eye opener to mostly jealousy and killing.

KristaPretty:
Something must kill a man

But man was not supposed to be killed by something.

God is a bad problem solver.
He tried to create a perfect world but a common serpent outsmarted him.
Sent Adam and Eve of the garden, didn't work.
Destroyed the world with flood, didn't work.
Sent his son to redeemed his creatures and still didn't work.
Why is he even God?

aseosa:
I think you are getting it a little wrong. GOD never destroyed the world because of only the killings. GOD destroyed the world because of most of their sexual immorality. Like lesbianism, gayism, prostitution and other sexual sins. The sexual immorality of the people in those times was the eye opener to mostly jealousy and killing.

Yes i know there were definitely other reasons, but I think the major reason God destroyed the world was because of violence which is humans shedding the blood of their fellow humans, going by the reasons He beforehand and also the instructions He had given to the human survivors of that flood concerning shedding the blood of humans.

However the bottom line of this thread is to show that contrary to what some think, God is not inclined to destroying man's lives but to saving them.

God bless.

adoyi8:
God is a bad problem solver.
He tried to create a perfect world but a common serpent outsmarted him.
Sent Adam and Eve of the garden, didn't work.
Destroyed the world with flood, didn't work.
Sent his son to redeemed his creatures and still didn't work.
Why is he even God?

Because God is God and God is not man!

For God is perfect and God created a perfect world.

Except you're saying that He shouldn't have trusted man with His perfect world, for it was in man that the serpent outsmarted and it was in man's hands the perfect world became imperfect and got spoilt.

God is not inclined to kill or destroy humans lives but to save them.

aseosa:
I think you are getting it a little wrong. GOD never destroyed the world because of only the killings. GOD destroyed the world because of most of their sexual immorality. Like lesbianism, gayism, prostitution and other sexual sins. The sexual immorality of the people in those times was the eye opener to mostly jealousy and killing.

To be extremely precise, The Whole Reason God/YHWH/"The Lord"/"The Lord God"/Jehovah destroyed the world with the flood in Genesis Chapter 6 is too much murder, excessive violence, rape, thievery, no hospitality, environmental mayhem & overconsumption of resources!

Ordinary Prostitution never existed in the pre-Flood world & played an almost non-existent role due to currency not being conceived yet!
Pederasty (Male homosexual love involving adult men & little boys) is mainly common in the pre-Flood world after Cain & a major sexual sin!
The concept of a police force was never thought of at those times & people have to protect themselves (and their families) with weapons to fend off enemies (both humans & animals)!
Lesbianism isn't really much a sexual sin at all neither did it played a major role! just an irrelevant misdemeanor

Note: These nasty acts are something you would see in "Inuyasha", "Hellsing" & "Berserk"!

Its part of plan of salvation for serpent to deceive human so that they can have the knowledge of good and bad,without know good and bad we can't be like God and he want us to act like him

Youngjho:
Its part of plan of salvation for serpent to deceive human so that they can have the knowledge of good and bad,without know good and bad we can't be like God and he want us to act like him

The Whole reason that God/YHWH/"The Lord God" permanently took away the tree of life is due to the fact that He never Adam & Eve to be
1. The mental ability to freely decide what is right & what is wrong without sheer dependence to God/YHWH their creator! (as of the result of eating out of the tree of good & evil in Genesis Chapter 3 due to the serpent's deception)!
2. The supernatural ability to live forever by eating out of the tree of life!

He want them to live forever but not in sin,that why he send them out,for them to live forever he now send Jesus build back the bridge that have fail

Youngjho:
Its part of plan of salvation for serpent to deceive human so that they can have the knowledge of good and bad,without know good and bad we can't be like God and he want us to act like him

In other words are you saying that it was part of God's plan for man to sin?

Youngjho:
He want them to live forever but not in sin,that why he send them out,for them to live forever he now send Jesus build back the bridge that have fail

That is the whole idea!

Jesus/The NT Messiah came to earth within 6 BC/4 BC/1 BC - 27 AD/29 AD/32 AD to do the following things beside do the ultimate sin sacrifice for the world:
1. Make Mankind into the same sexual status that of Pre-Fall Adam & Eve
2. Bring an end to the Law of Moses especially for the Nation of Israel since their land & culture was going to be indefinitely buried due to the might of the Roman Empire & upcoming nations after the fall of the Roman Empire!
3. Give Mankind a beacon of hope in the midst of man-made idolatrous darkness especially that of the Vatican (600+ years later)


Pre-Fall Adam & Eve (Before the event in Genesis Chapter 3) were supposed to only eat out of the tree of life to forever be:
- 100% desiring of unlimited number of sexual partners over a lifetime
- 100% unafraid of public sex with no man made shame or guilt
- 100% unafraid of buttnaked nudity
- 100% abhorrant towards Necrophilia, Menstrual Sexual Intercourse, Adultery/Cuckoldery/Wife Thievery, Pederasty w/ sexual attraction towards under-16 year old kids

* The English Language never existed in 1st Century AD at all
* Exodus Chapter 20 - Deuteronomy 31:26 was almost a millennium before Neo-Babylon (Nebuchadnezzar II's Babylon) was even formed & even before King Saul was even born!
* The modern common definitions for "fornication, adultery & whoredom" never existed at all prior to middle English development!
* The Hebrew words used to identity prostitutes & holy prostitutes are H#2181 - Zanah & H#6948 - kodeshah/qadeshah
* Jesus Christ/Yeshua/NT Messiah died near within the 1st half of the 1st Century AD on only Northeast Africa at Jerusalem of the Judea Providence!
* Churches was non-existent within the BCE era & even the 1st Century AD period!
* White wedding dresses, wedding rings, pastors, wedding conceptions, tuxedos, "wedding licenses", or even the "legal age of consent" concept never fully existed within the BCE period & even in the early stages of Dark Age Europe!

I called it transgression not sin,cos they have no knowledge of good nor bad,which would help them in chosen and in Ipeter1vs20 the verse makes us to understand that Jesus have being chosen to take man back to God cos there most be transgression before they can be like God

Youngjho:
I called it transgression not sin,cos they have no knowledge of good nor bad,which would help them in chosen and in Ipeter1vs20 the verse makes us to understand that Jesus have being chosen to take man back to God cos there most be transgression before they can be like God

So what sin were you talking of on this occasion?

Youngjho:
He want them to live forever but not in sin, that why he send them out,for them to live forever he now send Jesus build back the bridge that have fail

If disobeying God's Word is not sin, then what is sin?

Disobeying when they have no knowledge is transgression but going on when you know the right thing is sin

So your god is not any better than a 2 bit banana republic tinpot despot? No wonder.

Youngjho:
Disobeying when they have no knowledge is transgression but going on when you know the right thing is sin

What specific type of sins can be examples that comprehensively explain your sentence?

Doing wrong when you don't know is wrong but Adam blaming God for is transgression is a sin

adoyi8:
God is a bad problem solver.
He tried to create a perfect world but a common serpent outsmarted him.
Sent Adam and Eve of the garden, didn't work.
Destroyed the world with flood, didn't work.
Sent his son to redeemed his creatures and still didn't work.
Why is he even God?

The bible God is even more incompetent. Even in his domain (heaven ), one third of his angels rebelled against him under the leadership of Lucifer. He could not even ensure peace and order in heaven.
How are were sure he will be able to manage the same heaven after judgement day, after he has eliminated most unbelieving and rebellious humans.

Youngjho:
Disobeying when they have no knowledge is transgression but going on when you know the right thing is sin

So you believe they had no knowledge when they sinned?

So what would you call the instruction that God gave to them not to eat of that the tree of knowledge of good and evil or they die?

jesusjnr:
So you believe they had no knowledge when they sinned?

So what would you call the instruction that God gave to them not to eat of that the tree of knowledge of good and evil or they die?

As a parent I call that an irresponsible instruction.

LordReed:


As a parent I call that an irresponsible instruction.

Yeah, like telling your child, do not climb on the table and jump down, for the day you do that you would surely break some body parts.

jesusjnr:
Yeah, like telling your child, do not climb on the table and jump down, for the day you do that you would surely break some body parts.

Like putting a bowl of candy on the table and telling the children if you eat it I will kill you, all the while hoping they will not be hungry enough to try it even though they've not had anything to eat.

LordReed:


Like putting a bowl of candy on the table and telling the children if you eat it I will kill you, all the while hoping they will not be hungry enough to try it even though they've not had anything to eat.

Haba leave sentiments and analyze it properly for you had left hundreds of bowls of candy and told them they can eat of all but not to eat of just one for its poisonous and would surely kill them if they do.

So hunger is ruled out of the equation.

jesusjnr:
Haba leave sentiments and analyze it properly for you had left hundreds of bowls of candy and told them they can eat of all but not to eat of just one for its poisonous and would surely kill them if they do.

So hunger is ruled out of the equation.

Why would you put poisoned candy in midst of other candy? Can you see how irresponsible that is?

LordReed:


Why would you put poisoned candy in midst of other candy? Can you see how irresponsible that is?

At least you agree with me that hunger was not a factor in that equation so we can proceed on that premise.

You see it as being irresponsible while I see it as being responsible, because for you as a parent to do that it should mean that you know exactly what you're doing.

For you have been there before the child so you have experienced certain things that the child hasn't so it may be to train the child for the things ahead that he would experience in his life.

For instance your child may have to go out and make such decisions outside, and resist poisonous candies that people may present to him regardless of how sweet it is, so you bear the responsibility to prepare him for such possible scenarios beforehand, so that by the time he'd have to face them, he shouldn't be I'll prepared for such, but have gotten used to resisting such poisonous candies regardless of how sweet they are.

Moreover your child ought to trust your judgment at that stage since you'd were there before him and so know better than him and know what you're doing.

So it's responsibility as you as a parent know somethings you have to put your children through that may be painful for them and make them cry and but you're doing it for their own good and not to hurt them even though it may hurt.

LordReed:

Let's put it in a better way:

There was no edible food within the entireness of the Garden of Eden (or even the entire planet) that can grant immortality continuously except for The Tree of Life that God/YHWH"The Lord God" bestowed upon Adam & Eve before the event in Genesis Chapter 3!

If Adam & Eve choose to defy God/YHWH"The Lord God" by their own free will by eating the fruit out of the Tree of the knowledge of Good & EVIL,Adam & Eve will surely die not by instantaneous measures, but purely by the permanent removal of the Tree of Life which would force Adam & Eve to inevitably age & die (which took over 800 years to do so)!


Note: Plants & Animals, when God/YHWH"The Lord God" created them before Adam, have natural expiration dates!

jesusjnr:
At least you agree with me that hunger was not a factor in that equation so we can proceed on that premise.

Hunger was a factor, abi was there no temptation?

You see it as being irresponsible while I see it as being responsible, because for you as a parent to do that it should mean that you know exactly what you're doing.

For you have been there before the child so you have experienced certain things that the child hasn't so it may be to train the child for the things ahead that he would experience in his life.

For instance your child may have to go out and make such decisions outside, and resist poisonous candies that people may present to him regardless of how sweet it is, so you bear the responsibility to prepare him for such possible scenarios beforehand, so that by the time he'd have to face them, he shouldn't be I'll prepared for such, but have gotten used to resisting such poisonous candies regardless of how sweet they are.

Moreover your child ought to trust your judgment at that stage since you'd were there before him and so know better than him and know what you're doing.

So it's responsibility as you as a parent know somethings you have to put your children through that may be painful for them and make them cry and but you're doing it for their own good and not to hurt them even though it may hurt.

When you have children use poison to train them o you hear. Me I will do no such stupid thing. You generally have to instruct children multiple times and watch them to make sure they do not do something stupid. Even the best behaved of them still messes up from time to time and you want to use such dangerous and irresponsible ways to train them. Well done o. I know you learnt such rubbish from your fairy tale book, continue. When you child dies, tell the police it was your training method that killed the child.

TEP3858:


Let's put it in a better way:

There was no edible food within the entireness of the Garden of Eden (or even the entire planet) that can grant immortality continuously except for The Tree of Life that God/YHWH"The Lord God" bestowed upon Adam & Eve before the event in Genesis Chapter 3!

If Adam & Eve choose to defy God/YHWH"The Lord God" by their own free will by eating the fruit out of the Tree of the knowledge of Good & EVIL,Adam & Eve will surely die not by instantaneous measures, but purely by the permanent removal of the Tree of Life which would force Adam & Eve to inevitably age & die (which took over 800 years to do so)!


Note: Plants & Animals, when God/YHWH"The Lord God" created them before Adam, have natural expiration dates!

Off point.

LordReed:


Hunger was a factor, abi was there no temptation?

You talked about not having anything to eat as a premise right?

So that's where I was coming from, for that was a wrong premise to draw any conclusions from in this regard, for it was not for the lack of food to eat, for food was there in abundance, for it was like a buffet, where you have been given several options to choose from, but to avoid just one of the hundred options. So that's the point.

LordReed:


When you have children use poison to train them o you hear. Me I will do no such stupid thing. You generally have to instruct children multiple times and watch them to make sure they do not do something stupid. Even the best behaved of them still messes up from time to time and you want to use such dangerous and irresponsible ways to train them. Well done o. I know you learnt such rubbish from your fairy tale book, continue. When you child dies, tell the police it was your training method that killed the child.

When I have children Lol!

That's where you are very wrong for the fact that a man has a child or children doesn't make him qualified to be a father or parent, for it's easy to be a father but to have the qualities of a father is another thing entirely.

You think you love your child or care about your child but believe me when I say you don't have any idea what it means to love or care about child, for if not you would know that God is the best ever Father that there has ever been, and you would want to learn from Him how to truly love a child.

For remember Jesus whether you think it's fairy tale or not, God called Him His beloved Son in whom He's well pleased, and yet would immediately after saying send Him into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

And later on made Him to go through a torturous process and even death for His own good despite the fact that Jesus had asked of Him to take away the cup from Him. But He refused because He was looking ahead and wanted the best for His Son.

And fast forward to today you who claim to be an atheist, yet celebrate Christmas - which i a disciple of Jesus don't celebrate - with your child and buy him or her Christmas clothes and wears etc.

And you have a calendar which you use to observe dates right? Let me know the basis upon which the date being arrived at, for instance what does AD 2019 or BC 500 mean?

And also despite the deviations, on whose name is the faith that commands the most following on Earth hinged?

And also who is the main inspiration behind the greatest bestseller of all time?

And who do you think is the most influential person of all time?

And beyond that there is also the spiritual angle but i'm gonna spare you that since I think you should already get the point, and you think you love your child, and are a better and more responsible father than God is?

Well if so that idea could only smack of stark ignorance of the truth, for there's no earthly father that comes close to God the Father when it comes to loving a child, and the reason that He was able to bring the best out of His beloved Son Jesus was because Jesus trusted Him and obeyed His Commandments, for even when it was very hard for Him He said "not my Will but thine be done!"

And today even here on Earth there no name that is on the same level as His name, for His name is the number one name ever.

Men leave am, i'm learning from God how to love not just a child but to love people, for it may be hard loving, but it is perfect loving and intended to bring out the best of God in them and make them become the best they could ever be.