Mkenya2019:
Check your history again. China started worrying about it population in 1950s and by 1960s had 2-child policy before it became 1-child policy - and later amendments was made for rural chinese or for those who got girls bla bla over the years.

Yes demographics alone doesn't explain everything but it's one of key factor - before you go to macro-economic policies and other socio-political issues.

I can give you example of kenya - kenya had same gdp with asian tigers at independence in 1960s - but asian tigers had different demographics - Kenya grew on average nearly 7-8% until oil crisis in post Arab-Isreal war in late 70s & later global oil crisis of 80s (nigeria enjoyed a boom time as everyone else gnashed their teeth) - about the same rate South Korea or Taiwan or Singapore or Malaysia - but while they grew wealthier - we were growing poorer. We were growing but per capita was going down because we also had actually the world fastest population growth - with our women getting on average 8 Kids - most in my village had 13-14 kids per woman and many were polygamous - so 1 man would gather for like 20 or 30 kids!.

We had done nearly everything the Asian tigers had done - except control our population. Yes oil crisis had for most part sabotaged our economy but our millions of kids were more damaging.

By late 70s and 80s - it became obvious that we weren't going anywhere. All the individual and nation wealth were going to provide food, education, health care and basic needs for all the kids. There was hardly anything left at family level to save or invest. The same with gov - gov had to keep building new schools that were never enough, employ teachers, build dispensaries that were never enough, and we were basically in rat race. kenya population had grown from 6M at independence in 1963 to nearly 20M in 1983! And by the turn of the century we were 30M!

So even though for two decades we did nearly everything the Asian tigers were doing - we became poorer and poorer.

Luckly for Kenya, we also began to take population control seriously, and now we are down to about 3 kids per woman, India are nearing 2 (in SSA only the likes of rsa/botswana/namibia have done it), and we are starting to see schools close because of lack of kids! People are now able to feed their kids better and have enough to save & invest, there are more workers, there are more taxes for gov to build infrastructure and the economy is growing at 6% (probably higher if we aggressively re-based like Ghana).

Yes other factors are important but nothing is more important for me than demography. The most important resource in the world is Human Capital - you can plan everything but it will come to naught if you don't plan human capital.

I can tell you for free - Nigeria is going nowhere - until it tames the north Nigerians breeding like rabbits.

An excellent broad picture of the main points of pop growth and development!

Stevoh18:


If that's the only negative thing we have that is worth taking about, then you must accept Kenya is generally ahead of you, positively...you should be in tears

Lol.taahira are you trying to force me into accepting what's wrong.
Where the hell you been at.why not take your ass 4000+ page back and read. Don't nobody gat time to make em long list

Stevoh18:


You must be insane

Nah nigga .go get me the best roads in europe and let's compare

Ghana ranked 3rd most PEACEFUL country in frica. Global peace index and obtain via starfm.


General NewsThu, 20 Jun 2019
Ghana ranked 3rd most peaceful country in Africa

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Ghana placed 44th in the world with Iceland leading the overall chart


Ghana came third after Botswana and Malawi respectively in the most peaceful country in Africa in the latest Global Peace Index.

Ghana placed 44th in the world with Iceland leading the overall chart as the most ‘peaceful’ nation on Earth in the 2019 Global Peace Index.

In addition, the world’s overall ‘peacefulness’ has improved for the first time in five years – although only marginally.

Afghanistan was bottom of the list, moving below even Syria, while South Sudan, Yemen and Iraq were all in the bottom five.

The report measures the ‘peacefulness’ of 163 countries with a range of measures including military spending and deaths from conflict and terrorism, as well as an estimated economic cost of violence.

Iceland, often portrayed as an idyllic Nordic paradise, came first in the rankings for the 12th year in a row as researchers praised the country’s falling murder rate and increase in funding to UN peacekeeping.

‘The strong institutions, attitudes and structures of peace that Iceland maintains has bolstered the country’s resilience against small internal shocks,’ they said.

New Zealand came second, as the report’s authors noted the violence of the Christchurch mosque attack but said the country had improved other scores and developed a ‘resilience’ to cope with such disasters.

Portugal was third, and Austria fourth despite an increase in ‘likelihood of violent demonstrations’ after a far-right party joined the government.

Denmark was fifth, with European nations dominating the top of the list.

‘Europe remains the most peaceful region in the world and it recorded a very slight improvement in peacefulness after several years of deterioration,’ the report said.

‘However, despite these improvements, the broader political environment in Europe remains uncertain, and resurgent nationalism and terrorism remain significant threats to peace.’

Brexit was also mentioned, as researchers said the UK ‘continues to struggle with its plan for exiting the European Union’ in what they called a ‘mixed’ year for international relations.

Japan scored highly among leading world powers, coming in as the world’s 9th-most peaceful country.

Germany was 22nd, the United Kingdom 45th and France 60th, while the United States dropped four places to 128th.

The report’s authors cited ‘growing political polarisation’ in America, adding that tensions had grown between Washington and Iran.

‘Confidence in US leadership has fallen the most in the past five years, with people now having more confidence in China than the US on average,’ they noted.

Australia’s score also fell slightly, as researchers said the country had increased its military expenditure and weapons imports.

Russia scored badly, coming 10th from bottom, below North Korea.

Afghanistan was bottom, scoring even worse than Syria, where ISIS was swept out of its last patch of territory earlier this year.

‘Despite the improvement this year, the world remains considerably less peaceful now than a decade ago,’ the report’s authors said.

‘A wide range of factors drove the fall in peacefulness over the past decade including increased terrorist activity, the intensification of conflicts in the Middle East, rising regional tensions in Eastern Europe and northeast Asia, increasing numbers of refugees, and heightened political tensions in Europe and the U.S.,’ they explained.

The slight uptick in peacefulness this year was partly fuelled by a reduction in military spending, the report found.

Seventy-two of the countries studied had reduced their level of military expenditure as a share of GDP.

There were also particular regional improvements, including in North Macedonia which struck an agreement with Greece to settle the long-running name dispute between the countries.

There was also an easing of the conflict in Ukraine, where fewer lives were lost.

Not all countries were included in the rankings, with small European nations such as Luxembourg and Liechtenstein among those left out.

The full list of countries in the 2019 Global Peace Index

1. Iceland

2. New Zealand

3. Portugal

4. Austria

5. Denmark

6. Canada

7. Singapore

8. Slovenia

9. Japan

10. Czech Republic

11. Switzerland

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12. Ireland

13. Australia

14. Finland

15. Bhutan

16. Malaysia

17. Netherlands

18. Belgium

18. Sweden

20. Norway

21. Hungary

22. Germany

23. Slovakia

24. Mauritius

25. Romania

26. Bulgaria

27. Chile

28. Croatia

29. Poland

30. Botswana

31. Qatar

32. Spain

33. Costa Rica

34. Uruguay

35. Latvia

36. Taiwan

37. Estonia

38. Lithuania

39. Italy

40. Malawi

41. Indonesia

42. Mongolia

43. Kuwait

44. Ghana

45. United Kingdom

45. Laos

47. Panama

48. Timor-Leste

48. Zambia

50. Serbia

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51. Albania

52. Sierra Leone

53. United Arab Emirates

54. Tanzania

55. South Korea

55. Madagascar

57. Vietnam

58. Senegal

59. Liberia

60. France

60. Namibia

62. The Gambia

63. Cyprus

64. Kazakhstan

65. Greece

65. North Macedonia

67. Montenegro

68. Moldova

69. Oman

70. Equatorial Guinea

71. Ecuador

72. Benin

72. Sri Lanka

72. Eswatini

75. Argentina

76. Nepal

77. Angola

77. Jordan

79. Rwanda

80. Peru

81. Bosnia and Herzegovina

82. Tunisia

83. Jamaica

84. Dominican Republic

85. Bolivia

86. Kosovo

87. Haiti

88. Paraguay

89. Cambodia

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90. Morocco

91. Cuba

92. Guyana

93. Trinidad and Tobago

94. Mozambique

95. Kyrgyz Republic

96. Gabon

97. Belarus

98. Papua New Guinea

99. Georgia

100. Guinea

101. Bangladesh

102. Uzbekistan

103. Lesotho

104. Burkina Faso

105. Tajikistan

105. Uganda

107. Cote d’ Ivoire

108. Togo

109. Djibouti

110. China

111. Algeria

112. Guinea-Bissau

113. El Salvador

114. Guatemala

115. Turkmenistan

116. Brazil

117. Thailand

118. Armenia

119. Kenya

120. Nicaragua

121. Republic of the Congo

122. Mauritania

123. Honduras

124. Bahrain

125. Myanmar

126. Niger

127. South Africa

128. United States of America

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129. Saudi Arabia

130. Azerbaijan

131. Ethiopia

132. Zimbabwe

133. Eritrea

134. Philippines

135. Burundi

136. Egypt

137. Chad

138. Cameroon

139. Iran

140. Mexico

141. India

142. Palestine

143. Colombia

144. Venezuela

145. Mali

146. Israel

147. Lebanon

148. Nigeria

149. North Korea

150. Ukraine

151. Sudan

152. Turkey

153. Pakistan

154. Russia

155. Democratic Republic of the Congo

156. Libya

157. Central African Republic

158. Somalia

159. Iraq

160. Yemen

161. South Sudan

162. Syria

163. Afghanistan

Source: starrfm.com.gh

vaxx:
It is like you want it hot

That's how I argue. The statement was stupid AF.

vaxx:
I hope you can read between my word or you intentionally want to be an idiot.

I have tried multiple interpretations of your argument and all were useless and faulty in same way.

Population doesn't lead to economic growth. Demographic dividend does. Population just helps to have bigger economy.

vaxx:
Bigger population lead to economical boom, because it will increase the market size.

Population has nothing to do with economic boom. It rather just attracts some forex reserves.

Any market booms when it's open. It could be small European country with low population or any biggie like China or India. No one will invest in a closed market.

Once a market is saturated, vendors move to other. Large markets have greater room for vendors to sell their stuff hence larger companies. Large, not exceptional growth.

vaxx:
What ever education you received in India. factor such as mobility will also jump up since migrarion will expand.

Migration has nothing to do with population again. People will go where they get money in any small or largely populated country.

vaxx:
Expanding industries will spring forth and will recruit new workers to the labour force. hardly will a smaller nation benefit form this.

That depends upon the kind of economy adopts.

It depends upon country whether it chooses to industrialize itself and have skilled labor.

vaxx:
if confirmation bias is not your primary problem, you should as well know some few African did way better than you On this comparism.

I agreed on some few. On aggregate, India was much poorer than Africa while has surpassed right now.

And It's not confirmation bias, list up the African countries in all human development indicators, population growth or competitiveness and compare against India. Africa's primary reason of wealth was high natural resources per capita. Only small couple of countries worked upon.

Similarly, Ukraine and Moldava with per capita incomes closer to India are stark different from India.

vaxx:
What are you actually debating . The entire Asia or India against africa? Be sensitive.

I'm debating your opinion about population. Both India or entire Asia are relevant.
India's boom in Asia is a bit later than Far east.

vaxx:
This expose you as an ignorant. Do you know how many Indians who are currently renting container shops in my country now. do you know what your people do in africa. Your people are mostly found everywhere . And majority are into retailing buisness not a white collar industry( west africa for example) . Immigration happen for so many reasons I am not willing to lecture you on this platform.

Indian diaspora even stays in Afghanistan and far more helish African and other countries. Their purpose is generate money from markets around. They don't have to leave for set of reasons like healthcare, education or daily life unlike Africans.

Or applying your logic, westeters reside in Southeast Asia too.

vaxx:
No matter the rapid population growth of africa, no any African country will ever have the population growth of India not even in a century( This should be your strength)

Overall population growth of Africa is almost 4 times of India. India's population is big, not growth.

Even for size, United Nations doesn't agree with you.
https://population.un.org/wpp/

There will be multiple countries from 2050 to 2100 which will have 30% to 50% populations of China & India and will even reach 1 billion in following century.

vaxx:
India is projected to reach all time high of about 1.5 billion in about fifty years time, China probably will be second while Nigeria will be in third position.

It rather favors what I said than you. Going to 1.5 billion from 1.37 billion already isn't a big deal. Indian population growth is slow and will even start to decline around 2050. China already is.
India's population growth rate estimated this year again was 5% less than expected and 2100 forecast has been down from 1.5 billion to 1.45 billion.

It's Nigeria who's going to have its population more than doubled.

vaxx:
Well, China has always been economical stronger than India anyway even in antiquity.

Factually incorrect. China and India had nearly same GDP in ancient and modern times. It was only 30-40 years back where Chinese economic boom made it an upper middle income country while India left as a lower middle income one.

As Chinese population ages, it will slow down to culmination. So forth, the pace at which Indian economy and per capita income has been growing faster than Africa, India's economy (right now 30% bigger) will be many times bigger than African continent with just 1/4th of population.
It's growth will stop like west and Africa will start to grow.

vaxx:
i actually don't get your beef here. Why the foul words anyway, i have respond in kind.

I have put it in most civilized manner I could. Statement of high population being responsible for national growth is stupid.

vaxx:
You actually need the advice better than me. India man.

No, what I said applies on every country who is developed today or growing fast.

Seriously, open things I listed up.

vaxx:
You have a problem of understanding. Historically agriculture is important and it is more sophisticated and diversify now in 21st century..

By diversification, I meant economic diversification. Not agriculture sole. Agriculture is just one sector and that even which produces raw materials which have lowest profit margin of all sectors.

Installing sophisticated machinery for agriculture isn't possible with most countries. Adding, you will lose forex buying machines and services what you don't make at home.

In case of India, I know that agrarian land per farmer is around 3 acres. Even if he manages to purchase stuff, he can't do it on small area. That's why I advocate for private firms doing that. Simply to earn profit, you need a highly modernized farm or farming is useless.

Things won't be even this rosy in case of Africa.

vaxx:
Bigger country with more pragmatic THINKING are modernizing agriculture , diversify product and becoming a multi crop producer instead of focusing on single product. USA ( The third largest country actually earns about hundered of billions on its agriculture annually alone not to talk of China.

I never denied that modernizing agriculture is important but its not basis of prosperity. Agriculture forms less than 1% of US economy. It's rather a feather in cap of USA and PRC than their needs. Agriculture isn't something these countries can't do without. They can produce only to eat and they will be fine.

All of the economic booms recorded till date haven't been based in agriculture. Boom demands increased profitable production (industry) and need for developing technology. Dreaming of developing as an agricultural economy is naive.

We have plenty of such fanboys in India too.

samorobo:
Dont be surprise that goel might be mkenya which is no doubt rvp2018

Why the damn? Both, the family trees; of my father and mother are completey originated in India.
I once sent my photo too. Didn't I?

So Mr Nwagbara can actually beg after the chest beating.

Sacked ‘inciting’ Nigerian Professor Nwagbara claims video was doctored

Prof. Augustine Uzoma Nwagbara.png
Professor, Augustine Uzoma Nwagbara


Embattled visiting Nigerian Professor, Augustine Uzoma Nwagbara who has been sacked by the University of Education, Winneba(UEW) says the videotape that has led to his dismissal was doctored.

According to him, he did not utter some of the things attributed to him on the video which are considered to be disparaging to Ghana.

The University of Education on Wednesday, June 19, 2019, terminated the contract of the visiting Nigerian professor who was seen in a video inciting Nigerians against Ghana.

The decision to terminate the contract was taken after a Disciplinary Committee of the university conducted a probe into the content of the video.

Content of the video has been widely condemned by Ghanaians over fears it could further polarise the recent tensed relationship between locals and Nigerians residing in the country.

The Public Relations Officer of the University of Education, Ernest Azutiga, told Host Kwaku Owusu Adjei on Anopa Kasapa on Kasapa FM that the remorseful Prof. Nwagbara denied many of the content on the tape when he appeared before the Disciplinary Committee.

“On the issue of Nigerian universities being 80% better than Ghana’s he said he never said that. On the issue of revenue that the University of Ghana accrues as a result of Nigerian students schooling there, he said he never uttered such claims and that he has no statistics to back that, also the fact that UEW begged him to stay in Ghana he claims he never said that. He stressed that the video was doctored and doesn’t fully reflect what he said."

“Prof. Nwagbara when he appeared before the committee regretted the content of the video and apologized for the disgrace caused the reputable university even though he insisted the video was doctored. He was shocked the video came out because he didn’t see anyone recording the meeting,” Mr. Azutiga added.

Mr. Azutiga noted that his own investigations have established that Prof. Nwagbara is a fine lecturer, only that he got carried away by nationalism during his meeting with his compatriots hence the kind of utterances he made.


Source. .Kassapa fm

vaxx:
So Mr Nwagbara can actually beg after the chest beating.

Sacked ‘inciting’ Nigerian Professor Nwagbara claims video was doctored

Prof. Augustine Uzoma Nwagbara.png
Professor, Augustine Uzoma Nwagbara


Embattled visiting Nigerian Professor, Augustine Uzoma Nwagbara who has been sacked by the University of Education, Winneba(UEW) says the videotape that has led to his dismissal was doctored.

According to him, he did not utter some of the things attributed to him on the video which are considered to be disparaging to Ghana.

The University of Education on Wednesday, June 19, 2019, terminated the contract of the visiting Nigerian professor who was seen in a video inciting Nigerians against Ghana.

The decision to terminate the contract was taken after a Disciplinary Committee of the university conducted a probe into the content of the video.

Content of the video has been widely condemned by Ghanaians over fears it could further polarise the recent tensed relationship between locals and Nigerians residing in the country.

The Public Relations Officer of the University of Education, Ernest Azutiga, told Host Kwaku Owusu Adjei on Anopa Kasapa on Kasapa FM that the remorseful Prof. Nwagbara denied many of the content on the tape when he appeared before the Disciplinary Committee.

“On the issue of Nigerian universities being 80% better than Ghana’s he said he never said that. On the issue of revenue that the University of Ghana accrues as a result of Nigerian students schooling there, he said he never uttered such claims and that he has no statistics to back that, also the fact that UEW begged him to stay in Ghana he claims he never said that. He stressed that the video was doctored and doesn’t fully reflect what he said."

“Prof. Nwagbara when he appeared before the committee regretted the content of the video and apologized for the disgrace caused the reputable university even though he insisted the video was doctored. He was shocked the video came out because he didn’t see anyone recording the meeting,” Mr. Azutiga added.

Mr. Azutiga noted that his own investigations have established that Prof. Nwagbara is a fine lecturer, only that he got carried away by nationalism during his meeting with his compatriots hence the kind of utterances he made.


Source. .Kassapa fm

I thought some Nigerians here said that was fake news.

Goel:

That's how I argue. The statement was stupid AF.

Then have a medical checkup

I

have tried multiple interpretations of your argument and all were useless and faulty in same way.

The madness symptoms identify again.

Population doesn't lead to economic growth. Demographic dividend does. Population just helps to have bigger economy.

population and economic growth grow hands in hands. It quickly creates more labor force and consumers, as well as automatically help on increasing demand for most goods and services. In general it's increases market size, well, there may be an exception to country with massive poverty issues such as India. India already failed to invest in the health and education sector which fuel up the progress of the pooulated economy. Japan, China and Korea use this very model to speed up their growth. And poor underfunded of India into this critical sector has been identify has one the issue leading to her poor performance..

Population has nothing to do with economic boom. It rather just attracts some forex reserves.

population increases market size which in turn attract investors and then add up to the market value and then boom the stock exchange while increasing the profit margin of shareholders which majorly are citizens of such a country. And at The long run. The citizens benefit.

Any market booms when it's open. It could be small European country with low population or any biggie like China or India. No one will invest in a closed market.

open market open up an economy for buisness, market size add value to it.

Once a market is saturated, vendors move to other. Large markets have greater room for vendors to sell their stuff hence larger companies. Large, not exceptional growth.

well saturated market might not pose much of a risk to a bigger populated market, since competition will rises , differentiation will quickly be notice, value for money will also be important and at the end of the day. The country benefit. And more millionaire created.

Migration has nothing to do with population again. People will go where they get money in any small or largely populated country

migration has much to do with population since populated city are urban area with more job concentration. That is why city with much imdustry have a bigger population growth. The more industrial a CITY become, the more populated the city becomes..

That depends upon the kind of economy adopts.

Not necessary.

It depends upon country whether it chooses to industrialize itself and have skilled labor

Both goes hands in hands. An industrialized nation will definitely produce more skilful labours. You can't be industrialised without being skilful. Your input here make no sense.
.

I agreed on some few. On aggregate, India was much poorer than Africa while has surpassed right now.

. What diffrent does it make, when you factor in per capital as a standard measured of an economy, India case is not really impressive.

And It's not confirmation bias, list up the African countries in all human development indicators, population growth or competitiveness and compare against India. Africa's primary reason of wealth was high natural resources per capita. Only small couple of countries worked upon.

Out of 54 states of africa, 35 States has per capital income less than that of india. There js 19 state in Africa that actually has a better economy well-being than India. Your case is still not difference from nit -picking.

Similarly, Ukraine and Moldava with per capita incomes closer to India are stark different from India.

I'm debating your opinion about population. Both India or entire Asia are relevant.
India's boom in Asia is a bit later than Far east.

Your input is actually not inteligent enough, what are you trying to pass across.. replying me the question, i earlier ask you.

Indian diaspora even stays in Afghanistan and far more helish African and other countries. Their purpose is generate money from markets around. They don't have to leave for set of reasons like healthcare, education or daily life unlike Africans.

when you understand this, why then are you using this as a claim to prove India is better cus more Africans migrate there. Don't you see your own logic flawed your initial assumptions. Just as i said migration happen for so many reasons and economic purpose is just single factor.

Or applying your logic, westeters reside in Southeast Asia too.

It is your logic, it flawed you. You erroneously claim Africans are migrating to India cus India is more successful. That is a huge ignorance.

Overall population growth of Africa is almost 4 times of India. India's population is big, not growth.

what actually will thia growth translated to in a century? Will it kick out India being the highest populated nation. Dressing up to take over from India. This figure absolutely did not favour Asia, since that continent Will still account for the largest people on earth and Africa is not going to take that position not even in a century. It is inapplicable of factual fact and ignorance of you to be putting the total figure of a CONTINENT against a country. That is an abusive approach to education. .

Even for size, United Nations doesn't agree with you.
https://population.un.org/wpp/

The growth of India in a century or right at the moment. Anyway this seems to me mkre accurate as it follow the new adopted figure. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/india/by-2030-world-will-have-8-6-billion-people-1-5-billion-of-them-in-india/amp_articleshow/59277566.cms

There will be multiple countries from 2050 to 2100 which will have 30% to 50% populations of China & India and will even reach 1 billion in following century.

sure, but it will not replaced India and China taking the first and second spot accordingly.

It rather favors what I said than you. Going to 1.5 billion from 1.37 billion already isn't a big deal. Indian population growth is slow and will even start to decline around 2050. China already is.
India's population growth rate estimated this year again was 5% less than expected and 2100 forecast has been down from 1.5 billion to 1.45 billion.

You may need to follow this report again.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/india/by-2030-world-will-have-8-6-billion-people-1-5-billion-of-them-in-india/amp_articleshow/59277566.cms

It's Nigeria who's going to have its population more than doubled.

No one is contending that fact. Nigeria in the next fifty years wiill still not reached a billion. Even with 2.6 birth rate.

Factually incorrect. China and India had nearly same GDP in ancient and modern times. It was only 30-40 years back where Chinese economic boom made it an upper middle income country while India left as a lower middle income one.

Any evidence for this? Based on the verified data available, China economy is bigger than the whole of Europe and America combine then, and in the mordern era, China has never been equal to the standard of African nations in the entire history of mordern China. while India had once rated at per or even below African States in many data years back .

As Chinese population ages, it will slow down to culmination. So forth, the pace at which Indian economy and per capita income has been growing faster than Africa, India's economy (right now 30% bigger) will be many times bigger than African continent with just 1/4th of population.
It's growth will stop like west and Africa will start to grow.

I have put it in most civilized manner I could. Statement of high population being responsible for national growth is stupid.

No, what I said applies on every country who is developed today or growing fast.

Seriously, open things I listed up.

By diversification, I meant economic diversification. Not agriculture sole. Agriculture is just one sector and that even which produces raw materials which have lowest profit margin of all sectors.

Installing sophisticated machinery for agriculture isn't possible with most countries. Adding, you will lose forex buying machines and services what you don't make at home.

In case of India, I know that agrarian land per farmer is around 3 acres. Even if he manages to purchase stuff, he can't do it on small area. That's why I advocate for private firms doing that. Simply to earn profit, you need a highly modernized farm or farming is useless.

Things won't be even this rosy in case of Africa.

I never denied that modernizing agriculture is important but its not basis of prosperity. Agriculture forms less than 1% of US economy. It's rather a feather in cap of USA and PRC than their needs. Agriculture isn't something these countries can't do without. They can produce only to eat and they will be fine.

All of the economic booms recorded till date haven't been based in agriculture. Boom demands increased profitable production (industry) and need for developing technology. Dreaming of developing as an agricultural economy is naive.

. Actually I am fed up of writting, but let me quickly make one or two statement. Two most important resources of life is land and human. And no nation can become a global power without having them in abundant. India has about 10 percent of the world agriculture land ( This is natural resources thay is not even available in china). But China produce and export more agricultural product than India. This shows something is wrong somewhere. China adopt mordern technology to benefit from what India should have gotten freely.In the space of about 40 years, Brazil another populated country was transformed from a country that could not feed its people into the 'agricultural superpower' that it is today. The secret behind this remarkable transformation. Which was a major investment by the government in agricultural research. New Zealand rake heavily on her agricultural export. Yes diversification is important but agicuture is necessary . Sustainability of all economy sector should be all way round.


http://www.fao.org/3/ag087e/AG087E07.htm


I will not reply you next time as i will feel lazy to do so. Make it short and Less of flaws.

haaaa....!!

kenyans,my favorate punchin bags....

how una dey....??

tylann:


I thought some Nigerians here said that was fake news.

The school is seriously dealing with him to the extent of withdrawing some of his entitlement after he was sacked. . He will behave next time and learn diplomacy. Hopefully it will serve as deterrent for others individual like him who thinks talking big make you look smarter.

Goel:

That's how I argue. The statement was stupid AF.

I have tried multiple interpretations of your argument and all were useless and faulty in same way.

Population doesn't lead to economic growth. Demographic dividend does. Population just helps to have bigger economy.

Population has nothing to do with economic boom. It rather just attracts some forex reserves.

Any market booms when it's open. It could be small European country with low population or any biggie like China or India. No one will invest in a closed market.

Once a market is saturated, vendors move to other. Large markets have greater room for vendors to sell their stuff hence larger companies. Large, not exceptional growth.

Migration has nothing to do with population again. People will go where they get money in any small or largely populated country.

That depends upon the kind of economy adopts.

It depends upon country whether it chooses to industrialize itself and have skilled labor.

I agreed on some few. On aggregate, India was much poorer than Africa while has surpassed right now.

And It's not confirmation bias, list up the African countries in all human development indicators, population growth or competitiveness and compare against India. Africa's primary reason of wealth was high natural resources per capita. Only small couple of countries worked upon.

Similarly, Ukraine and Moldava with per capita incomes closer to India are stark different from India.

I'm debating your opinion about population. Both India or entire Asia are relevant.
India's boom in Asia is a bit later than Far east.

Indian diaspora even stays in Afghanistan and far more helish African and other countries. Their purpose is generate money from markets around. They don't have to leave for set of reasons like healthcare, education or daily life unlike Africans.

Or applying your logic, westeters reside in Southeast Asia too.

Overall population growth of Africa is almost 4 times of India. India's population is big, not growth.

Even for size, United Nations doesn't agree with you.
https://population.un.org/wpp/

There will be multiple countries from 2050 to 2100 which will have 30% to 50% populations of China & India and will even reach 1 billion in following century.

It rather favors what I said than you. Going to 1.5 billion from 1.37 billion already isn't a big deal. Indian population growth is slow and will even start to decline around 2050. China already is.
India's population growth rate estimated this year again was 5% less than expected and 2100 forecast has been down from 1.5 billion to 1.45 billion.

It's Nigeria who's going to have its population more than doubled.

Factually incorrect. China and India had nearly same GDP in ancient and modern times. It was only 30-40 years back where Chinese economic boom made it an upper middle income country while India left as a lower middle income one.

As Chinese population ages, it will slow down to culmination. So forth, the pace at which Indian economy and per capita income has been growing faster than Africa, India's economy (right now 30% bigger) will be many times bigger than African continent with just 1/4th of population.
It's growth will stop like west and Africa will start to grow.

I have put it in most civilized manner I could. Statement of high population being responsible for national growth is stupid.

No, what I said applies on every country who is developed today or growing fast.

Seriously, open things I listed up.

By diversification, I meant economic diversification. Not agriculture sole. Agriculture is just one sector and that even which produces raw materials which have lowest profit margin of all sectors.

Installing sophisticated machinery for agriculture isn't possible with most countries. Adding, you will lose forex buying machines and services what you don't make at home.

In case of India, I know that agrarian land per farmer is around 3 acres. Even if he manages to purchase stuff, he can't do it on small area. That's why I advocate for private firms doing that. Simply to earn profit, you need a highly modernized farm or farming is useless.

Things won't be even this rosy in case of Africa.

I never denied that modernizing agriculture is important but its not basis of prosperity. Agriculture forms less than 1% of US economy. It's rather a feather in cap of USA and PRC than their needs. Agriculture isn't something these countries can't do without. They can produce only to eat and they will be fine.

All of the economic booms recorded till date haven't been based in agriculture. Boom demands increased profitable production (industry) and need for developing technology. Dreaming of developing as an agricultural economy is naive.

We have plenty of such fanboys in India too.

very intelligent post!!! I really wish to meet u n give u a memorabilia for this wonderful post!

tylann:


I thought some Nigerians here said that was fake news.

Yes, I called it fake news when I haven't confirmed it.

It's genuine but not as bad as painted. The man never instigated anything against Ghana.

TayserMahri:


You;re back What a name! If you are a she.male we can talk So that you fvck yourself

Talk for where? you and who? You want to give me Ebola? You dirty gay.

vaxx:
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drop the argument.

theenchanter:
drop the argument.

be objective and drop the shade.

theenchanter:
Yes, I called it fake news when I haven't confirmed it.

It's genuine but not as bad as painted. The man never instigated anything against Ghana.

is it because you are unable to decode the ill in his statement which he later claim to be doctored after feeling remorseful?


Well lies and emotion isn't equal to nationalism

Dickhead02:
Talk for where? you and who? You want to give me Ebola? You dirty gay.

Dickhead02:
Talk for where? you and who? You want to give me Ebola? You dirty gay.

Fvcking h*mo. Take your gay ass back where you came from

Problemkid1:

lol

Lagos, Nigeria.

vaxx:
be objective and drop the your shade.

u actually made some valid points but ur assessment of India is wrong, India spend more on education and health. India has also produced some of the best engineering and medical universities in the world, india also have a lot of techies in Silicon Valley with many expatriates all over d world. I think our perspective about India is very wrong.

On d relationship between population and economy of a nation: I think Goel has done justice to that.

vaxx:
is it because you are unable to decode the ill in his statement which he later claim to be doctored after feeling remorseful?


Well lies and emotion isn't equal to nationalism

i've watched that video, vaxx... I've watched it more than three times.... the man never incited anything on Ghana, he talked more about Nigeria.

He's just a visiting professor in Ghana and not fully employed by the university.

In short, I'm not dabbling into this matter jare.

theenchanter:
u actually made some valid point but ur assessment of India is wrong, India spend more on education and health. India has also produced some of the best engineering and medical universities in the world, india also have a lot of techies in Silicon Valley with many expatriates all over d world. I think our perspective about India is very wrong.

On d relationship between population and economy of a nation: I think Goel has done justice to that.

when you factor in what india invest in health and EDUCATION and compare it to what the Asia tigers , including Japan and China did. You will realised. India perform very poor.

theenchanter:
i've watched that video, vaxx... I've watched it more than three times.... the man never incited anything on Ghana, he talked more about Nigeria.

He's just a visiting professor in Ghana and not fully employed by the university.

In short, I'm not dabbling into this matter jare.

well to be nationalistic is very good.. but to be sensitive to feelings of others is also very important. Even among his friends, there live his enemy.


All what he says are full of factual inaccuracies; he is only trying to make his citizens unnecessary proud. they are all lies; and they are the barking of a toothless dog! He has since feel remorseful about his action. He even denied it.

Well, i think azikwe and inkrumah didn't see this coming cus during their time there was no passport talkless of residential card for the citizens to be able to live in each country without any form of intimidation. I am sure if dead talk, azikwe will feel ashamed today and be very mad with the the prof.

vaxx:
when you factor in what india invest in health and EDUCATION and compare it to what the Asia tigers , including Japan and China. You will realised. India perform very poor.

see, I dont like to compare countries that run diff type of govts on matters like this.

Somalia trying to act smart

Kenya-Somalia Maritime Border Wars Escalate As Arab Parliament Issues Warning To Kenya

The Arab parliament has issued a warning to Kenya on the maritime border issue between herself and Somalia.

In a post shared through Somalia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs twitter account, the notice written in Arabic stated that Kenya had drawn a “new, unfounded map” of the border.

“The #Arab Parliament calls on #Kenya to stop its hands on #Somali territorial waters, which are an integral part of the Arab waters, and rejects its false pretensions to draw up a new, unfounded map while rejecting its threats to interfere in #Somalia‘s internal affairs,” Somalia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs captioned the notice.

Read: Somalia Bars Its Gov’t Officials, Agencies From Holding Meetings In Nairobi

The Arab Parliament belong to the Arab League (formally the League of Arab States), a body formed by 22 Muslim countries.

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The #Arab Parliament calls on #Kenya to stop its hands on #Somali territorial waters, which are an integral part of the Arab waters, and rejects its false pretensions to draw up a new, unfounded map while rejecting its threats to interfere in #Somalia's internal affairs.

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The two countries have in the recent time been locked in a diplomatic tussle, following a conflict of oil blocks Indian Ocean, that Kenya claimed ownership after it was revealed that Somalia was auctioning the blocks.

This led to Kenya recalling her ambassador to Somalia Lt-Gen (Rtd) Lucas Tumbo, as well as expelling Somalia’s ambassador to Kenya Mr Nur, alias Tarzan.

Last month, Somali federal government (Somalia) issued a directive barring government agencies, donors and UN bodies from holding meetings, seminars and conferences in Nairobi, Kenya.

Read: Senior Somalia Government Officials Denied Entry Into Kenya

This followed an issue where three senior Somalia government officials were left stranded at the Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) after officials denied them entry for lack of visas.

The Arab Parliament’s main goal is to “draw closer the relations between member States and co-ordinate collaboration between them, to safeguard their independence and sovereignty, and to consider in a general way the affairs and interests of the Arab countries”

One of the member states, Syria, was suspended in November 2011, as a consequence of government repression during the Syrian Civil War.

https://www.kahawatungu.com/2019/06/20/kenya-somali-maritime-border-arab-parliament-issues-warning-kenya/

theenchanter:
see, I dont like to compare countries that run diff type of govts on matters like this.

why? America and the EU are currently challenging China for influence in africa now. Competition still goes on. China has become a major player, the better , the faster, the world power are aware.

The Nigerian ladies have qualified.....

Thank u Thailand.