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Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Empiree: 7:58pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
JeromeBlack:Even if it year 2050 what was wrong in 1966 is wrong now. The only thing that changed was the law. The law persecuted them bcuz it recognized danger this practice poised to the community. It protects them in 21st century but it is still the same act. And now, see what it is doing to people |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Empiree: 8:01pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
JeromeBlack:Fake news. I guess you need to look around you or better still, travel around the world to see how "sex education reduces teen pregnancy". Nonsense. What kinda white lie is this? |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 8:01pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Empiree: Morality is subjective. Morality changes In the 70s, people thought that smoking cigarettes was okay. I'm sure it was halal until the late 80s when they found out it was cancerous. 2 Likes |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Empiree: 8:03pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
JeromeBlack:What kind of jagbajagba is this in the name of defending vices ![]() |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 8:06pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Empiree: Comprehensive sex education reduces teen pregnancy https://www.aclu.org/blog/reproductive-freedom/study-finds-comprehensive-sex-education-reduces-teen-pregnancy You will always be ignorant as long as you refuse to learn concepts outside Islamic jurisprudence 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 8:10pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Empiree: It is of recent that there are fatwas declaring cigarettes to be haram. A lot of Muslims used to smoke before. Go and read about tobacco fatwas |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Saucyxo: 8:15pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Empiree: Lol. Yeah because I'm unable to freely speak and Express my opinion. ![]() Lol sex education does no such thing. If you were to look at countries without sex education vs countries that do have sex education youd see a correlation between sexual maturity and the practice of safe sex and sex education. Oh God. Criminal lesson 101. Free speech is not a crime but it does carry some implications. If not. I DARE you, go to your employer and tell them you hate gays. Tell your employer that gays have a mental disorder and should hide their sexuality. Harvard recently rescinded an offer letter to a school for hate speech. You're free to do the same. Since we've established you've an issue with comprehension. I am absolutely an advocate of gay rights. I dont agree with homosexuality. I am well aware that it is haram. But I do not think gay people should be discriminated against. It is absolutely paramount that students learn how to be tolerant to anyone that may face persecution for the way they are. No its not. Lol. You're on some other planet. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Saucyxo: 8:18pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Empiree: You sound more and more uneducated. If you had been as ungrateful as you are now back in 1966, where black people had JUST GOT CIVIL RIGHTS THAT ABOLISHED SEGREGATION. You wouldn't be spewing this rubbish. It was wrong for black people to use the same books as white people. Does the foolish logic you just used here apply still ? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 8:21pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
Empiree: Nope, morality and laws changes. Who sees slavery as wrong and illegal in the past? 2 Likes |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 8:44pm On Jun 20, 2019 |
sino: Things changes, research evolves so what's your point? I will keep arguing this, there's no phenomena that's unnatural in a natural world, every phenomena are natural whether positive, negative, explained, un-explained, known and unknown. There's no absolute normality, it's intersubjective. 1 Like |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:02am On Jun 21, 2019 |
tintingz: ....argument ad infintum.... |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:08am On Jun 21, 2019 |
JeromeBlack: I can only laugh in Nigeria at the bolded. Ustadh Faqeeh! Call it intolerance. Islamic law is intolerant to homosexuals. Nigerian law too is intolerant to it too. Don't infect us with gayism. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 9:02am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: No one is saying that you must bring gays to your house or teach your children to be gay. What the secular society is saying is that you should mind your business. You don't have to support gays but you must not antagonize them for their way of life. Live and let live. If Islam is against gay rights, so be it. But you cannot use Islam to discriminate against gays. Keep your religion to yourself, your family and the Ummah. You have no right to force your beliefs on gays and non muslims. Just as gays an non muslims cannot force things on you 1 Like |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 9:11am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv:We have not even started any argument. I see this as an escape route. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:59am On Jun 21, 2019 |
JeromeBlack: Homosexualism is forbidden in Nigeria and will remain so forever! Aamin. Mind you we are secular but not strictly secular in Nigeria. Our cultural traditions too forbid it. Case closed. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 10:12am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: Our traditions support giving a widow to her brother in laws. Traditions change 1 Like |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 10:27am On Jun 21, 2019 |
JeromeBlack: Yes, if the lady in question does not object, it is acceptable in Islam. And there is no compulsion in it. And are you comparing marriage to homosexualism? What a bizarre comparison! |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by sino(m): 11:44am On Jun 21, 2019 |
tintingz: Yep, those sociopaths and psychopathic serial killers are actually normal, since killing is natural, animals do kill too, and humans have been killing each other since time immemorial, let's just accept them for who they are, they were born like that, we should love them...Oh they cause harm to others?! Isn't that not also natural?! I'm sure you cause harm to animals you eat too, oh sorry, animals don't matter or do they?! But aren't humans animals too?! Yep, what is normal is intersubjective, a whole lot of mad people would agree they are normal isn't it?! #Jokers! 3 Likes |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by sino(m): 11:47am On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: Bro, he is a mufti o! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by tintingz(m): 12:47pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
sino:It's part of human nature to kill, hunts etc We as intelligent being needs to regulate our behaviors, it doesn't change the nature of things. Because killing is natural doesn't mean we should accept it, there's difference between nature and moral laws. Nature is nature, moral laws are human construct. Yep, what is normal is intersubjective, a whole lot of mad people would agree they are normal isn't it?!It doesn't matter if there are whole of mad people or not, the point is people come together and establish what's normal in a society, if you come from another society and behave differently, your behavior would be seen as not normal. So somehow, normal is an illusion. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by sino(m): 2:48pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
tintingz: Let me help reconstruct the above. Because homosexuality is natural doesn't mean we should accept it! Moral laws exist because we are intelligent beings and need to regulate our behaviours, we are not animals! Intelligence would mean that you can make reasonable judgments, so I put it to you, homosexuality, the act, is it normal to you? Are you willing to participate in such act? Kindly share your reasons for your answers. tintingz: Yep, it doesn't matter, so some group of mad people can come together and dictate what is normal to you, you accept what these people have established because you want to be like them or want to be acceptable to them?! If normal is based on what 'society' has established and societies differ, why then are you having problems with a normal that is different from the one you have come to accept?! Well, my own normal and that of Muslims isn't an illusion and not dictated by some people, it is divine, thus there is a moral compass that guides, unlike those which are dictated by the whims and desires of themselves and others! 1 Like |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 3:11pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: That is incest. You support incest? |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:24pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
JeromeBlack: Define incest? The crime of having sexual intercourse with a parent, child, sibling, or grandchild. How is that incest? |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by aadoiza: 5:34pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
tintingz:The point is not about sexual immorality by the organiser; it is about forcing normal people to indulge in their sexual disorder. If the student had been a gay animal I would not have raised the point, geddit? |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 5:45pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: Having sex with your brother's wife is kind of incestuous. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:49pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
JeromeBlack: No. It is incestuous only if the brother is still alive. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 5:55pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
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Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:58pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 6:03pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: Poking your brothers wife is incestuous. So your children will also be your nephews and you will be a step father to your original nephews who would have cousins who are also their step brothers. Islam makes some muslims to ignore common sense 1 Like |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by aadoiza: 6:03pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
sino:With this and comment to which it is replied, tintingz should agree that homosexuality should be unacceptable. |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by Rashduct4luv(m): 6:09pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
JeromeBlack: Yes, it is permissible. Not LGBT+ |
Re: Islam's Position On Homosexuality by JeromeBlack: 6:21pm On Jun 21, 2019 |
Rashduct4luv: And there you have it folks. Islam supports PEDOPHILIA (marriage of under 17 girls). Islam supports incest (marrying cousins and widowed inlaws) But God forbid if there is gay marriage. Damn! 1 Like |
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