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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:53am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Repeatedly.....?! Do you have prove for this Sir?!
I counted 2 passes into the box that were targeted at nobody.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:54am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Exactly what you thought or what is factually obtainable?! I remember how you used to reel out stats to backup Iheanacho, but it's your thoughts that matter now?!

I have explained to you my preference. We are deadlier with fluidity and creativity in our forward play. I have been saying this before the World Cup.

Yesterday proved my point. I have showed you my comment before the game. I called for more directness. I have asked for us to be more offensive.

At the moment, I will pick Osimhen over Ighalo because he will offer more movement. I will pick Chukwueze and Onyekuru over Iwobi and Musa on the flanks because of the same reason. I will play Iwobi in the AMF role because of the same reason. The only tinker with the idea is in midfield because Mikel will offer a platform to build play while Ndidi will do the running to break down plays.

-----------------------------Osimhen----------------
Onyekuru---------------------------------------Chukwueze
----------------------------------Iwobi--------------------------------
----------------------Mikel------------------Ndidi------------------
Collins-----------Omeruo---------Ekong----------------Aina
----------------------------------Akpeyi-------------------------------

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 7:54am On Jun 23, 2019
safarigirl:
I counted 2 passes into the box that were targeted at nobody.

But you didn't see the pass he made to Ighalo I guess?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:57am On Jun 23, 2019
safarigirl:
I counted 2 passes into the box that were targeted at nobody.

I wonder if he even watched the game. If he did, he would not even ask because those passes from Musa were awful. However I would excuse Musa because he was not playing with his natural foot. He was repeatedly forced to use the outside of his right foot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 7:57am On Jun 23, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I have explained to you my preference. We are deadlier with fluidity and creativity in our forward play. I have been saying this before the World Cup.

Yesterday proved my point. I hsve showed you my comment before the game. I called for more directness. I have asked for us to be more offensive.

At the moment, I will pick Osimhen over Ighalo because he will offer more movement. I will pick Chukwueze and Onyekuru over Iwobi and Musa on the flanks because of the same reason. I will play Iwobi in the AMF role because of the same reason. The only tinker with the idea is in midfield because Mikel will offer a platform to build play while Ndidi will do the running to break down plays.

-----------------------------Osimhen----------------
Onyekuru---------------------------------------Chukwueze
----------------------------------Iwobi--------------------------------
----------------------Mikel------------------Ndidi------------------
Collins-----------Omeruo---------Ekong----------------Aina
----------------------------------Akpeyi-------------------------------

grin

I know some Dudes are getting boiled already, and before they jump in and start name-calling, I'm gonna stop here.

But as par my Reference, I will pick Musa, Moses over Onyekuru as a Left Winger. Let's end it here pls.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:59am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


But you didn't see the pass he made to Ighalo I guess?!
I saw it....but was that the question?

You asked for 'repeated' instances that Musa gave a bad pass and I answered, don't change the question because you don't like the answer.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:00am On Jun 23, 2019
grin

When you are beginning to question if I did see the Match or not, then it's apparent the Discourse is getting tensed already. Thanks for the Time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:01am On Jun 23, 2019
safarigirl:
I saw it....but was that the question?

You asked for 'repeated' instances that Musa gave a bad pass and I answered, don't change the question because you don't like the answer.


grin

You and I know the context of the word "Repeatedly" as used by him. He meant more than 2.

Pls..... Let's end it here. Thanks for your time and inputs.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 8:08am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


grin

You and I know the context of the word "Repeatedly" as used by him. He meant more than 2.

Pls..... Let's end it here. Thanks for your time and inputs.
the context of the term 'repeatedly' means more than once anywhere. So, a different interpretation does not invalidate the actual meaning.

Thanks for your time as well

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:22am On Jun 23, 2019
no matter how tired i am.. I still rush to Nairaland because of You Guys


Thumbs up

This is my two cents though


Akpeyi made some saves but I believe it's nothing Ezenwa or Uzoho can't do.. He was jittery.. Made alot of schoolboy's errors which is not new to Akpeyi.. I believe If we want to go far.. Akpeyi must be dropped


Our CB

Ekong and Omerou were solid.. La Liga really groomed Kenneth

Full backs

Please let's appreciate Torino.. they really upped Aina's game and it's a testament of y Nacho has to leave England.. Shehu was good until his injury while awaziem settled in well

MIDFIELD

abeggy Nigerians can complain

Ndidi and etebo r ballers
Mikel was slowed but controlled the game.. He is hardly dispossessed and we need such a player in the game

ATTACK

Chuckwueze was full of running but he should do well to connect to other players
Paul IMO was not bad.. most time,had to run to the midfield to support,use his height well
Iwobi was good.. That his turn in the box was delicious.. When he dropped to the midfield, He moved the ball better

SUBSTITUTES

Awaziem wasn't as good as Shehu offensively but he wasn't bad too

Musa was full of running but his last balls were just 'musaISH'

Ighalo,like i always maintain, He is our best striker ITM.. He can bully defenders, run into space and can finish


generally, super eagles played well
Burundi gave good accounts of themselves
it was a good night of football

Good morning and Happy Sunday to you all

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:29am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:
Nice Analyses from all Ends. I hope Rohr builds on his Ball that made him to drop Iheanacho and subbed off Mikel at the right time.

In the next Match, I hope Onuachu and Mikel ain't in the starting XI. If Osimhen is fit, I wish to see him lead the Line, with Iwobi as 10 and Musa on the left Wing.

Musa's electric pace is hard to contain, also he's not gumming to the Wing, rather drifting inward to help in the buildup play.

We've got enough Wingers in the Team, thus no need playing Iwobi as a Winger as well. Moreso, if Collins is fit for the next Match, I hope to see him play as a LB and Aina moves to RB.

Certainly Aina plays better as a LB , but we do not have Ebuehi in the Team now, and Awaziem is offensively lacking to play the position.

Akpeyi......?! I pray he won't turn to Akpere (Basket) in the subsequent Matches.

How do you people conclude that Aina is a better LB?

Jamilu was unplayable against Seychelles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:30am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


How do you people conclude that Aina is a better LB?

Jamilu was unplayable against Seychelles

Conclude?! Where did he play mostly at Torino, Hull City?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:33am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


How do you people conclude that Aina is a better LB?

Jamilu was unplayable against Seychelles

Transfermarkt says Aina is better on the right. I wonder how they concluded that he is better on the left when we saw his difficulty crossing from the left. The goal came from him backing the goal and flicking the ball with his right foot.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:34am On Jun 23, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Rohr and his crew deserve praise for setting up the team to keep the ball. Nice seeing us try to build from the back. Either way, he needs to work on making the team more comfortable in build up to limit the chances for errors.

If you need to build up then you need Balogun and Mikel in the midfield

Otherwise it's like asking Ekong and Omeruo(non ball players) to do a very difficult task

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:36am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Conclude?! Where did he play mostly at Torino, Hull City?!

That doesn't mean he's better than Jamilu Collins
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:38am On Jun 23, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I wonder if he even watched the game. If he did, he would not even ask because those passes from Musa were awful. However I would excuse Musa because he was not playing with his natural foot. He was repeatedly forced to use the outside of his right foot.
His first cross wasn't that bad. Someone with better movement would've gotten to the end of it(Samu and Iwobi were the ones in the box).
Musa at the moment is ahead of Onyekuru. I love Onyekuru but Musa has been pretty consistent since the world cup.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:38am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


That doesn't mean he's better than Jamilu Collins

Can you point out in my post where I said so?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:40am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


If you need to build up then you need Balogun and Mikel in the midfield

Otherwise it's like asking Ekong and Omeruo(non ball players) to do a very difficult task
Agreed. That's why I think it'll be difficult to bench Mikel.
I noticed Etebo was playing in front of our CBs. He doesn't have the passing range to play that role.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:40am On Jun 23, 2019
Jarus:


And he (Ighalo) is one of the 3 Nigerian players to have won EPL player of the month award. The others were Okocha and Osaze (3x).

Mikel has won EPL player of the month
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:40am On Jun 23, 2019
If Ezenwa is fit he should be number one henceforth, Akpeyi jittery and lack of confidence almost cost us yesterday. Man couldn't even comfortably stop a ball that weren't threatening, balls from 30 yards you punch for corners. Imagine if that back pass was to an open net. Ezenwa or Uzoho abeg, Akpeyi is never confident in goal right from time immemorial.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 8:40am On Jun 23, 2019
andrew444:


Babayaro 27 caps in 9 years for the eagles no goals, i dont know why he could manage such few caps in 9 years

Taye taiwo 58 caps 8 goals in 8 years for the eagles, if taye was consistent in the eagles as mikel he should be the most capped player with about 110 appearance

He had discipline issues too. Remember he was sent home in 2004 AFCON.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:41am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Can you point out in my post where I said so?!

You didn't read my post well before responding to it
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 8:42am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


Mikel has won EPL player of the month

Mikel ke. Nah.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:44am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Hopefully he's gonna be tried out, if we seal our Qualification in the next Match. Honestly I have Trust in him than Ighalo at the moment.

Nawa o Ighalo just scored the winning goal

And you are talking of bias
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 8:44am On Jun 23, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I wonder if he even watched the game. If he did, he would not even ask because those passes from Musa were awful. However I would excuse Musa because he was not playing with his natural foot. He was repeatedly forced to use the outside of his right foot.

The passes weren't awful but just say that the defenders anticipated the passes. It was more of the defender did well, than Musa did not pass well. I do not see the basis behind starting Chuks, if we want to point out errors, there was on instance where Iwobi was right in front of Chuks and he kicked the ball out for a throw trying to locate Aina who was miles away when a simple pass made more sense, there was also a counter where he skinned the first guy then instead of simply squaring for Onuachu he tried a banana pass which the defence was all so glad to cut out. Full of tricks yes, but atrocious decision making, I don't see why he will start ahead of Musa if you ask me, he has his own decision making flaws, but IMHO, he is an upgrade on Chuks. See how Musa's direct running won us a corner as well, I can go on.



Anyways. I don't know why it seems like I watched a different match that wasn't exactly fulfilling. The Burundians created at least 5 3 on 2 situations against our CB, they created well over 4 clear cut chances and if not for a combo of poor passes, poor finishing and a rare GK save, we would have been talking about 3 goals conceded, factually the Burundians bypassed our midfield like it did not even exist, there was a particular 3 on 2 situation where one of the Burundians was unable to give a 2 yard pass to his teammate who would have been one on one. Or should I mention the chance where they skinned Ekong and had a clean run at goal but the guy messed up? Arguably, from an attacking sense this might have been an okayish game, but the midfield and defence were atrocious, that too against Burundi, the worst team in the tournament (statistically). I really am glad that Rohr has come out to acknowledge that the team was poor at least they will work on it. Ndidi and Etebo forget their jobs of shielding the defence multiple times in the game which is why I agree that one of them ought to be axed for Mikel to sit deep entirely, however I would suggest Ndidi is dropped because Etebo is a better shuttle that can move the ball higher up the pitch.

All in all I think the only place we had real issues was with the two DMFs not doing their job, I don't think we would have defeated a better team at all.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 8:45am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


How do you people conclude that Aina is a better LB?

Jamilu was unplayable against Seychelles

Your Question?!

Did I compare him to Collins?!

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/315543/Show/Ola-Aina

Check the above stats.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 8:50am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Your Question?!

Did I compare him to Collins?!

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/315543/Show/Ola-Aina

Check the above stats.

I'm questioning those who say Aina is better than Jamilu

Jamilu's crosses are more lethal because he overlaps and crosses from the touchline making it tricky for the defenders and easy for a tap in

Aina's crosses are easy to head out because he was crossing from outside to in

Cc TheGoodJoe
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:55am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


Fluidity over creativity in the final third as a wing forward?! Well-done Sir.

Didn't you see whenever chukwueze is with the ball he's draws 2-3 defenders to himself. Most times he dribbles past and set up play with Iwobi or any available player. He was always marked by 2 Burundians. The spotlight were on him not to mark those runs.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:58am On Jun 23, 2019
gustav25:
Rubbish ..look at them coming here to vent after a match they laboured to win . Same ignorant hypocrites who said on the encounter involving the Pharoahs of Egypt and the Zims that Egypt won't win this AFCON simply because they laboured to win 1-0 , are now they ones beating their akpu,Amala,starch and akpu inflated chest shouting no team can stop them after labouring to win 1-0 also !!!!! So ironic and hypocritical beings !!!



Anyway , Black stars will definitely bankulize they super chickens when we meet . Allah, please make these heathens play the Black stars in the Quarter finals so they can gnash and lament for ages
you are just in sifia pain...better don't kill yourself

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:03am On Jun 23, 2019
Mickael2:




All in all I think the only place we had real issues was with the two DMFs not doing their job, I don't think we would have defeated a better team at all.

personally i believe our midfielders had a good game yesterday

Even the best of DMFs get bypassed

The Burundians played well thus created some good scoring chaces but Ndidi and Etebo both had a good game IMO


Nice observations though

i always look forward to your analysis

One Love
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 9:04am On Jun 23, 2019
Earthquake3:


Nawa o Ighalo just scored the winning goal

And you are talking of bias

grin

Personal preference is termed as being bias also?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake3: 9:05am On Jun 23, 2019
Oasis007:


grin

Personal preference is termed as being bias also?!

People also prefer other players to those you're defending

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