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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:56pm On Jun 23, 2019 |
TayserMahri: Algeria is far from its top level . sorry to tell you this but kenyan team level was very low to judge our level . during most of the match kenyan team couldnt do even few correct pass . algerian team activated the economic mode after the second goal . the match with senegal will be very difficult for algeria and there we will see if they are at the level or not 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:03am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Algerian1: On paper you have a better squad than Senegal. Do you think you will beat them? Its actually Senegal who activated economy mode. Algeria played better passes in the second half. You began badly with the long balls. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 12:23am On Jun 24, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 12:23am On Jun 24, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 2:25am On Jun 24, 2019 |
TayserMahri:Well that's your business you can call me whatever name you want to call me but Nigeria is going to win it and there is nothing you gonna do about it 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 2:28am On Jun 24, 2019 |
TayserMahri:But Algeria are not close to Nigeria when it comes to football we beat them anyhow we want. You can ask him if you want 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 7:34am On Jun 24, 2019 |
vaxx:You would better need that. Statement was stupid. vaxx:Mine is very well. Quote your statement and justify it instead of doing personal attack. vaxx:East Asia which was epicenter of global growth in past decades and South & Southeast Asia who are becoming now have very low population growth rates. Africa has higher population growth rate (even large part of its GDP growth rate comes from population growth rate) while Asia has stagnant and even declining population even with poorest Asian countries outside greater middle east. Market demand increases when living standards rise, market doesn't only lie inside country but exported too. Prosperity comes from stability, then free market, then diversification and most important factor is demography. Both declining and rising population are a threat to future of any country. I think I had asked you to study DEMOGRAPHIC TRANSITION MODEL. BUT YOU DIDN'T AND CALLING ME MAD?? Let me give you a clue, suppose two countries with same and stable population (say A & B). Both have stable populations. A: Low population growth rate Low and same death rate (may be developed country) B: High population growth rate High and same death rate (may be a least developed country) Once you start infesting facilities (say healthcare), population will jump suddenly in B as death rate falls. Population growth graph will form a paraboliv curve. Population will grow, stablise with awareness and will decline with falling fertility. The median age of population determines how much skilled than can be, how much they can earn, how much they can consume and how much they can produce. Read on internet yourself. And my humble advice to you, say what you KNOW about anything and not what you BELIEVE about anything. Making up things will only bring embarrassment to you. You are engaging me in argument with me in anger because I conducted a personal attack on you. But your argument was still foolish. You are defending undefendable and wrong by default. vaxx:Population growth doesn't increase market size in general. Increased circulation of money in country's economic system does because it increases purchasing power of people. This is called free market. This is called a free market. Africa isn't growing despite population. vaxx:India has one of fastest growing markets since 1991. Africans moreover should be last people on planet to call Indians poor. We are poor as compared to countries we want to compete with, not against you. Poverty? We have different standards and we have finished those. We will apply new ones from 2021 on. https://worldpoverty.io/index.html vaxx:India invested very much needed with all its funds wherever it should and could. And that's why economy boomed since 90s. vaxx:How many times are you going to insult yourself? China curbed its population growth forcefully while Japan and Asian tigers ran awareness programs. All their populations are declining today. Seriously, what you are smoking? vaxx:Underfunded? India has annual budget of $750 billions!! It will even cross $2 trillions by 2030 if keeps on growing as planned. Poor performance? India was biggest gainer in HDI in this decade. vaxx:Market is never formed unless people have purchasing power. They won't have until they earn high and they won't til their skill is high. What do you expect from countries where median age is 17-18 years? You think they will grow? Asians started from tapping western markets. We all from Indians to Japanese, still rely on western markets for most of exports. vaxx:You said exactly what I said just minus population growth from it. High population growth demands money for development of more people and consumption of more resources. Saturation doesn't cover entire population but the population which can afford it. It explains why Apple jumped from USA to China and now India without tapping all phone users. It will find even a smaller market in India. vaxx:Simply, it was an argument for bigger & better. For a smaller country, size of population and city will be small so will be bigger for a big country. The thing that makes difference how they succeed is their income per person. Hence, population different between nations ultimately losses its relevance. It's internal matter of a country. Total size only defines power as US is far far more powerful than other developed countries but its no way worlds most developed country or fastest growing developed one. vaxx:Most certainly. People just don't wake up and run towards cities. vaxx:My input makes very much sense here. You quoted it just because YOU HAD TO REPLY ME. Read that part again. vaxx:India's PPP GDP per capita is nearly double of Africa and makes very much difference as seen on ground. India's nominal GDP per capita was deliberately held by government by manipulating currency to keep Indian exports competent. We keep on buying $, selling ₹ to maintain a huge forex reserve. US had put us on currency watch list multiple times. India's real nominal GDP per capita will be around $4,000 and total nominal GDP nearly double of Africa for same population if India's sets ₹ free. But it will create an economic crisis. We have doubled our GDP in ₹ between 2011 & 19 while in dollars, we grew only some 60%. China was a net exporter so chose to appreciate its currency and added a trillion dollar every year since 2006 (when it was $3 trillions economy). Most of by currency appreciation and inflation than real GDP growth. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 7:35am On Jun 24, 2019 |
vaxx:Even check inequality adjusted HDIs, population growths, fertility rates and poverty ratio of those countries and compare with India. From South Africa to Botswana. My statement holds very much strength. Even fewer will be left. vaxx:?? You claimed that India isn't much different from Africa. I refuted. vaxx:Migration is something I just used as an example to argue against stupid people here who have never studied about human development indicators or economic history of world. Africa is a commodity based economy mostly which was left far behind by eastern world who rather produced finished goods. vaxx:This isn't ignorance. India being far more successful than Africa is a fact. Only problem was India's economic boom was a bit late. But that too will be covered within a decade more. vaxx:yes it will, Nigeria will surpass or be very close to India in population between 2100-2150. It will surpass China for sure. The way India's population is growing slower than expected in every statement while entire Middle East and Africa doing it faster, time may be hastened close 2120-30. In fact, India has been drafting a two child policy similar to China's one child. If implemented, India's population estimates for 2100 will further come down to 1.2 billion from 1.4 billion. India's 8 poorest states account for India's entire population growth rate. Rest of 21 are either stable or declining. The above will stabilize even those 8 states. Indian population won't change thereafter. vaxx:Didn't favour? Asia's population is nearly unchanged while Africa has came across in very close competition. How many times you need to be educated that its population growth and not total population that causes trouble? Asia is a much bigger continent. In context of Asia, East Asia is declining gradually, both South Asia and Southeast Asia have low population growth rates and turning stable to decline from 2040-50. Without middle east, Asia has a great net decline of population. In case of Africa, besides a couple of very small states like Seychelles, almost everyone has exponential population growth rate. vaxx:What's wrong with that? India is as big as Africa is in population. As your wish, just put an individual country Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya, DRC, Congo, RSA and start comparison. Let's see how many of African countries fair better against India. You will not find it favorable. It's better too if we don't make it Asia vs Africa. vaxx:Dear, why don't you just read what you share completely? Accurate? This is a report which itself quotes UN estimates for 2017, a slightly older estimate. I quoted report from UN from 2019. Nevertheless, you didn't even bother to read that old report and see that India's share of world's population in percentage in 2015 and 2030 is unchanged. New reports suggest that it will decline sooner than we think. https://population.un.org/wpp/ But just rather than searching media reports for one country, I chose to give you UN site for all countries. Seems that you are lazy too to browse that website. So, here it is. https://population.un.org/wpp/Download/Files/1_Indicators%20(Standard)/EXCEL_FILES/1_Population/WPP2019_POP_F01_1_TOTAL_POPULATION_BOTH_SEXES.xlsx vaxx:At least China. vaxx:This report doesn't contradict me. I said India's population will stabilize in or before 2030, this report says and new versions, both say will. vaxx:Nigeria's fertility rate is above 5 right now. No way 2.6 birth rate will be achieved anytime soon. Till it will, Nigeria will be more populated than USA. vaxx:WTF? Both recorded (near past) and estimated history (many centuries ago) suggest same. Go on IMF and world bank web sites and check recorded and verified GDP or wikipedia for quick summary. Western nations grew during The Great Divergence (Google it) while China & India remained same until Deng Xiaoping assumed power and revolutionized Chinese economy. India attempted in 1991 and grew but advantage of experience and head start in western market penetration was to PRC. vaxx:WTF? Both China & India were used to account around 25% each of global economy (correction would be no global economy existed in past). That may be slightly bigger than Roman Empire but not way as big as you claim. America didn't exist back then. Only a Latin American civilization used to rule central and South America which was unknown to rest of world before Spanish discovered them. In modern era, Chinese economy at MER is around 70-75% of one of US or EU and 110-115% (slightly bigger) in PPP against only one of them. Similarly, India at 17-18% at MER while 50-55% in PPP (I told you why Indian MER is low above the in the post due to currency). No way close to US & Europe combined. Seriously, you haven't even done your basic homework before speaking on this. You are asking me for verifiable evidence which means you never came across data published by international financial institutions. You are just trolling here. vaxx:And I'm fed of reading BS. Seriously vaxx:Controlling them is more correct word than having them. Partially agreed anyway. A few centuries ago, a couple of European nations learnt to do long range voyages and one day, they enslaved entire world. vaxx:Indian agriculture sector is better than before but still highly inefficient. Second, Indian green revolution intends to make India self sufficient in food rather than exporting it. Yeah, we started to produce some things in excess. So, we are exporting them. Agriculture in India has a low profit margin nor it does it fit to give India kind of leverage India needs to become a global power. It's just a small feather in cap for food security what we should transfer to more efficient firms than private farming. vaxx:China has worth $22 trillions reserves of minerals and rare earth metals what India can only dream of. It's essential to make industrial good. vaxx:Chinese agriculture is far more efficient than India. They have a smaller labor force engaged in agriculture while higher output. India needs to do same and pull out some population and restrict agriculture to some organizations to have more output. Modern techniques aren't economically feasible on small pieces of land. vaxx:Not exactly, Chinese technological prowess is developed from expertise in industrial sector. Any industrialized country has a relatively smaller (smaller compared to its own size of other sectors) but mote efficient agriculture sector. But their economies aren't based on it. In the end, highly populated countries who are enriching need resources. India will be last great power to rise on international platform and only one left (declining) after decline China's decline while will stay as semi developed high income country like Russia or East Europe. But won't because of agriculture. Agriculture is a very basic thing we need to sustain our population. Technologies will be generated industrial sector. As American sphere of influence contracts, Russia is kicked out of big league, China & India will be settled with US as great powers competing for resources and political control of world while all will decline one by one. World will be full of great and middle powers like WW2 era. Space sector is left where mining may bring back global growth. All these countries have even officially announced their intentions to exploit extra terrestrial resources but is far fetched. vaxx:Brazil is in a middle income trap now as they didn't focus on industrial sector. They will always remain a middle income economy now. vaxx:New Zealand itself is an exceptional case. First, its modeen economy was made by European settlers who had seed money to implement all advanced changes. Second, it produces many items that are unique to Australia and New Zealand hence costly. Third, its economy is benefited by large and advanced economy of Australia and West who are willing to buy high quality stuff on high rates. Let's see how a New Zealand style country in Africa would survive which is filled with these industries. Moreover, New Zealand is dependent on others for technologies of most kind. Without an industrial base, no country can ever be a global power. Military advances are vital, self reliance is even more. vaxx:Flaws are something you have filled it with. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 7:48am On Jun 24, 2019 |
We tensed.We are not used to this exposure. We need to qualify for more of this competitions so as to build belief and character.Look at Uganda for instance,they participated in the last AFCON and are now a much better side.They are now getting used to it.We need the same! As far as football is concerned,we are miles behind many! TayserMahri: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 8:06am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Kazikazi: What kind of games are you Tanzanians good at?? not soccer, not rugby, not athletes....not... |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:25am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Kazikazi: We will whip you anyway Kumatako. Kenya came to Afcon to beat bongolala. The other two teams are too strong. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:27am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Problemkid1: But they enslave you when you try using their country as the pathway to Europe.
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:29am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Because we are greater than you. When was the last time you beat us? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:31am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Algerian1: Congratulations Algeria. Both your goals were a result of avoidable mistakes by the Kenyan side (by inexperienced players). We should try correct on that anyway the game could have easily ended 0-0. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NairobiWalker(m): 8:32am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Problemkid1: HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:41am On Jun 24, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Stevoh18: 8:48am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Somebody tell Algeria and the rest not only Africa but the world "'we will meet in London Marathon" |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:56am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: Idiot you have started be prepared to cry as usual when we analyse the two stupid unfortunate country you emanated from. Useless little India kibera goat 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:01am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: Idiot.. thanks to oba for detecting your vivid ignorance. I bet you didn't read that link you dropped hence you would have noticed the salient point that showed nigeria decrease In rice import. I doubt you if wold have proceed to post that having read all that. Stupid citizen from to slummish capital of the world. Read my lips India is a shiithole and should not be compared with China. That what you should be discussin. You need to see the way your Indian brother are.living to like rats here 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:04am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: Indirectly,this is what he's trying to tell us:every Beninese,babies,elderly,poor,rich,thin,fat and everyone in between consumes 600 GMS OF RICE DAILY!! In other words 6 servings of this cup. White rice essentially triples in both volume and weight after cooking. 1 cup of white rice will yield 3 cups; 1 kg of white rice will yield 3 kg.https://www.cooksinfo.com/rice#equivalents So Beninese actually EAT 1.8 KG OF COOKED RICE A DAY-they'd spend most waking hours preparing and eating rice of this quantity without time for anything else!! These guys have jokes but some jokes write themselves! This is what happens when you try to take refuge in lies. 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:07am On Jun 24, 2019 |
obaaderemi: Hahaha the idiot won't believe 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:09am On Jun 24, 2019 |
kikuyu1: You are you talking to 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:14am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Mkenya2019: ranting goat . Various report has it that we have overtaken egypt as africa largest rice producer and it will grow even double this year.reports also has it that rice import has decline in nigeria focus on your illusory $30bn agricultural sector annually or should we focus on that of india's 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:16am On Jun 24, 2019 |
NairobiWalker: Hahaha you are not our brothers. Algeria is 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:18am On Jun 24, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 9:18am On Jun 24, 2019 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:32am On Jun 24, 2019 |
NairobiWalker:They also enslave you fools too typical Kenyan with his stupidity 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:33am On Jun 24, 2019 |
NairobiWalker:Its impossible for Tz to loose to kenya. Tz is a better team comparing to Kenya. We will beat you, we will have 3 points,Algerians & Senegal will qualify,ke & Tz will go home.Kenya is the only team which will go home empty handed.This is how it will look like.. Senegal...... 9 points Algeria.........6 points Tanzania..... 3 points Kenya...........00 points 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 9:34am On Jun 24, 2019 |
NairobiWalker:Wetin dey worry this mumu 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:36am On Jun 24, 2019 |
Stevoh18:What kind of sport are you Kenyans good at? Not soccer,not swimming, no.marathon isn't a sport.Its a poor mans ribs show. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:52am On Jun 24, 2019 |
NairobiWalker: Thats bullshit fake news . no one was enslaved in algeria . its rebels terrorists, smugglers groups in north mali , not algeria . they kidnap migrants enslave , torure , demand ransoms . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 10:51am On Jun 24, 2019 |
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