MuttleyLaff:
OkCornel, I visit many dairies, milk many cows and then make cheese. I make cheese myself from milk obtained several cows from many dairies. I don't keep tabs on dairies I've visited Mr OkCornel.

Nice, so not even one source to back up your interpretation of Arsenokytes? Or could it be you are putting up a flawed interpretation of that word which serves as the bedrock of your argument?

Someone is getting scared of being exposed. Or you think I don't know why I paste my sources here?

MuttleyLaff:

Don't mind if I am blind or not, if Lot knew it was an abomination men sexing men, then please OkCornel, what was the reason he gave for denying and refusing the men of Sodom and Gomorrah have sex with these two other "men" hmmm?

I gave you the exact words of Lot in Genesis 19, and you claimed I'm hiding behind scriptures. I also asked you why Lot deemed it fit to see his own virgin daughters raped. You've gone mute up till now.

I keep answering your questions repeatedly, yet you turn around to accuse me and others of "dripping tap technique"... oh, the height of hypocrisy.

And to top it off, you are dodging my questions.

MuttleyLaff:

Dance around the question and the earlier other two for as long as you want. Notice how openmine, has left you, all by yourself, to deal with the question. He has dropped it like it's too hot for him. Scaredy cat. I thought you guys said you had time for me today. I told youse, I'll knock your heads together

I will once again answer those questions in my next post. Repeat them once more, and prove to everyone following this thread you are empty barrel...

OkCornel:
Oh my goodness, so you have amassed a variety and huge amount of wealth of knowledge and information, but you are here struggling to give one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures that can serve as example for believers!

Knowledgeable Muttley, please provide everyone following this thread with one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures that can serve as an example!

Even an erotic poem like Songs of Solomon clearly has no place for same sex relationship!

Smh, you've been deliberately blind to an example I just put to you.

Going after strange flesh in this context means pursuing unnatural desires. Lusting after same sex is the perfect example here. The sodomites going after those Angels to sleep with them.

Notice how Jude separated this from fornication (aka porneia).

If you repeat this very question, then you are proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you are bereft of understanding...

Give me the perfect example what strange flesh in that context means. Here is your opportunity to fame, a chance for you to shine or flop. Let's see what's in those brown cells of yours and not some third parties other.

Do a search above, on this page, using the string "Muttleylaff Case Points" towards the bottom half of the pulled up search results, you will find a reference to one of my posts detailing types of homosexuality featured as Case point #1 to Case point #5. I think it's case point #4, is where I deconstructed arsenokoites. Now run along like a good nice bwoy, and get to work on that. Let me know how you get on. You can thank me later, OK?

MuttleyLaff:
I will be debating poo, as long as there exists consenting SSA adults.

Went to a philosophical forum once but the theme spokesperson didn't turn up so they decided to discuss the merits of feeding their dogs only vegetables. After a while of healthier dog, better environment, I couldn't help asking how the 18 members of the forum got there and found they got the bus, train and most drove. "Did you all wonder what conditions are like where you get your fuel from?" I asked. It just amazed me that they'd be more concerned at the good they do making vegetarians of their dogs than what they could have done if they'd walked.

Same here. All the girls "being bullied, beaten, shamed, abandoned, rejected, scared for their lives, put to death etcetera"..........

MuttleyLaff:

Oya, try these three direct, simple and easy for size questions about the scriptures then to see if or not If God truly sees anything untoward a same sex relationship or men sexing men. Dont ignore them, no excuses and dont do an AWOL
1/ What was the reason given by Lot, for refusing and/or not allowing those wicked and cruel men of Sodom and Gomorrah have gay sex with the angels when they attempted gang raping the angels who had an appearance of human beings, as in, men?

I will give you the exact words of Lot. It is too straightforward to go back and forth over and again;

Genesis 19 v 7-8 (KJV);
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Genesis 19 v 7-8 (Amplified Bible)
7 and said, “Please, my brothers, do not do something so wicked.
8 See here, I have two daughters who have not known a man [intimately]; please let me bring them out to you [instead], and you can do as you please with them; only do nothing to these men, because they have in fact come under the shelter of my roof [for protection].

For an entire village of old and young men insisting on having sex with two male visitors (obviously an act of homosexuality) was deemed an act of wickedness.

Now, note how Lot offered his virgin daughters to be raped, rather than those male visitors...

MuttleyLaff:

2/ Did Lot say: "Oh no, please you cant dont that. No, men sexing men? Haba guys, God doesnt want men sexing men nau, abeggy dont do that. Shoo! shoo!!. Go away please, ẹ dakun, ẹ jọr. Ẹma ko ba mi. Please I beg you, dont get me into trouble", hmm?

Genesis 19 v 7-8 and Jude 7 which are obviously self explanatory should not be too difficult for an acclaimed knowledgeable person to decipher. The answer to this question is written there. Too obvious to miss...

MuttleyLaff:

3/ You would expect Lot to say to the guys that God doesnt approve of men sexing men, so they shouldnt consider doing it with these angels, wouldnt you, hmm?

And yet offered his virgin daughters, rather than those male visitors. That in itself tells you how Lot was disgusted with that act of homosexuality...



NOW I AM AWAITING YOU ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS;

1) Why was Lot willing to let his daughters be raped, instead of those angels (male visitors)?

2) When are you going to provide us with an example of a same sex marriage approved by God from the Old Testament, New Testament, Apocrypha or other early church letters (Origen, Polycarp, Clement, Ireneaus e.t.c.)?

3) Those who turned away from homosexuality and lesbianism after encountering Jesus, do we regard their testimonies as lies?

MuttleyLaff:
Give me the perfect example what strange flesh in that context means. Here is your opportunity to fame, a chance for you to shine or flop. Let's see what's in those brown cells of yours and not some third parties other.

I'm sure you weren't blind to what I posted a few minutes ago...

MuttleyLaff:

Do a search above, on this page, using the string "Muttleylaff Case Points" towards the bottom half of the pulled up search results, you will find a reference to one of my posts detailing types of homosexuality featured as Case point #1 to Case point #5. I think it's case point #4, is where I deconstructed arsenokoites. Now run along like a good nice bwoy, and get to work on that. Let me know how you get on. You can thank me later, OK?

You "deconstructed" arsenokoites without pasting the source behind your interpretation.

What exactly are you scared of? Being exposed for your flawed interpretation?

When will Muttley provide one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures that can encourage homosexuality in the church?

What does Muttley make of those who turned away from homsexuality/lesbianism after encountering Jesus? Are their testimonies lies?

Why would Lot offer up his virgin daughters to be raped, rather than being a party to a legion of old and young men who wanted to pursue their unnatural desires (going after strange flesh) i.e the male visitors in Lot's house?

OkCornel:
I'm sure you weren't blind to what I posted a few minutes ago...

You "deconstructed" arsenokoites without pasting the source behind your interpretation.

What exactly are you scared of? Being exposed for your flawed interpretation?

You are behaving like an ignorant customer asking the shop cashier to tell him which cow the pint of milk, he's bought, was obtained from. This is hilarious, and I am literally just laughing out loud thinking of the whole scene. Look at him asking for source behind what is obvious. You think I milk only one, two, three or four cows before making cheese. Cheese making doesn't work like that matey. Ask TV01, he'll you that you've goofed, and goofed big time.

Now, in your own words, not a third party website sign posting shenanigan again, please give me your best and perfect example what "strange flesh" is, as used in the context Jude made use of the phrase. Thank you.

MuttleyLaff:

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Dance around the question and the earlier other two for as long as you want. Notice how openmine, has left you, all by yourself, to deal with the question. He has dropped it like it's too hot for him. Scaredy cat. I thought you guys said you had time for me today. I told youse, I'll knock your heads together[/s]

Once again you spew so much trash like a mollycoddle teen with little or no self-worth!
Your obtuse and fortuitous expressions will always leave a trail of gibberish which you will eventually deny!
Well what can one expect from a supposed grown-up acting like an infant?

Kid i have commitments in the real world!
Don't expect me to remain glued to my screen ad infinitum like you to deliberate on issues that have long been concluded even before it started!
I had given you a befitting reply which you dodged as if it was an explosion...
The day you goofed scandalously and horrendously was when you mindlessly forced yourself to present a scripture in 1 john 4:16 as proof of God endorsing homosexuality!

You are now trying in-efficaciously to imply that 'lot' has now become God's prophet or mouth-piece?
My prevaricating kiddo,grow up...!

MuttleyLaff:
You are behaving like an ignorant customer asking the shop cashier to tell him which cow the pint of milk, he's bought, was obtained from. This is hilarious, and I am literally just laughing out loud thinking of the whole scene. Look at him asking for source behind what is obvious. You think I milk only one, two, three or four cows before making cheese. Cheese making doesn't work like that matey. Ask TV01, he'll you that you've goofed, and goofed big time.

Ogbeni, stop beating around the bush and paste your sources here...

Abi you don't even have any source to back up your interpretation of Arsenokytes? Put up one of those cows you've been milking na...

MuttleyLaff:

Now, in your own words, not a third party website sign posting shenanigan again, please give me your best and perfect example what "strange flesh" is, as used in the context Jude made use of the phrase. Thank you.

And for the umpteenth time, here is Muttley shamelessly asking the same question I have answered repeatedly, but still cannot see nor understand...so much for Mr. knowledgeable traveller;

Muttley, my understanding of strange flesh aligns perfectly with the link I pasted earlier.
Infact, what transpired in Genesis 19 where the Sodomites went after the Angels is a perfect example of desiring after strange flesh.
Pursuing unnatural desire, going after strange flesh...
Note, it was not called fornication or rape.

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/26#79656710

Smh, you've been deliberately blind to an example I just put to you.
Going after strange flesh in this context means pursuing unnatural desires. Homosexuality is the perfect example here. The sodomites going after those Angels to sleep with them.
Notice how Jude separated this from fornication (aka porneia).
Remember, in the beginning...God created them male and female...Jesus explained how marriage ought to be done! Male and Female (the natural way)
If you repeat this very question, then you are proving beyond a reasonable doubt that you are bereft of understanding...

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/26#79658138



Oya, ask the same question again...artful dodger... meanwhile, we are all still awaiting your answers to my questions;

1) When will Muttley provide one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures that can encourage homosexuality in the church?

2) What does Muttley make of those who turned away from homsexuality/lesbianism after encountering Jesus? Are their testimonies lies?

3) Why would Lot offer up his virgin daughters to be raped, rather than being a party to a legion of old and young men who wanted to pursue their unnatural desires (going after strange flesh) i.e the male visitors in Lot's house?

Cc: Openmine, TV01

Double post...

OkCornel:
When will Muttley provide one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures that can encourage homosexuality in the church?

What does Muttley make of those who turned away from homsexuality/lesbianism after encountering Jesus? Are their testimonies lies?

Why would Lot offer up his virgin daughters to be raped, rather than being a party to a legion of old and young men who wanted to pursue their unnatural desires (going after strange flesh) i.e the male visitors in Lot's house?

Muttleylaff will never and can never offer any!
I am too sure of it!

The fact that he could audaciously use 1 john 4:16,Matthew 19:12,Romans 8:1-2 and comically use 'Lot' of all people as proof of God endorsing homosexuality is not only comical but a show of ignominy for a believer!
Like i said,these are last kicks of a dying horse!

Emperorharry,i told you this prevaricator can never carry such olympic torch any where using scriptures as a foundation!
Such a person bestowed with a proverbial torch needs to be discerning and humble....Two attributes that Muttleylaff has in short supply!

openmine:

Muttleylaff will never and can never offer any!
I am too sure of it!

The fact that he could audaciously use 1 john 4:16,Matthew 19:12,Romans 8:1-2 and comically use 'Lot' of all people as proof of God endorsing homosexuality is not only comical but a show of ignominy for a believer!
Like i said,these are last kicks of a dying horse!

Emperorharry,i told you this prevaricator can never carry such olympic torch any where using scriptures as a foundation!
Such a person bestowed with a proverbial torch needs to be discerning and humble....Two attributes that Muttleylaff has in short supply!

Did you notice Muttley has been hesitant to provide sources on his interpretation of Arsenokytes?

Dude is giving us flawed and questionable interpretation... which is the bedrock of his argument...

OkCornel:


Did you notice Muttley has been hesitant to provide sources on his interpretation of Arsenokytes?

Dude is giving us flawed and questionable interpretation... which is the bedrock of his argument...

True!

OkCornel:
Ogbeni, stop beating around the bush and paste your sources here...

Abi you don't even have any source to back up your interpretation of Arsenokytes? Put up one of those cows you've been milking na...

And for the umpteenth time, here is Muttley shamelessly asking the same question I have answered repeatedly, but still cannot see nor understand...so much for Mr. knowledgeable traveller;

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/26#79656710

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/26#79658138

Oya, ask the same question again...artful dodger... meanwhile, we are all still awaiting your answers to my questions;

1) When will Muttley provide one example of same sex marriage in the scriptures that can encourage homosexuality in the church?

2) What does Muttley make of those who turned away from homsexuality/lesbianism after encountering Jesus? Are their testimonies lies?

3) Why would Lot offer up his virgin daughters to be raped, rather than being a party to a legion of old and young men who wanted to pursue their unnatural desires (going after strange flesh) i.e the male visitors in Lot's house?

Cc: Openmine, TV01

I know people can be slippery as eels. I need to get hold of you by the collar, wrist or trousers, so you won't have any chance of wriggling away to escape me holding and pinning you down. Are you equating strange flesh to be anything else other than being only angels or you equate it to be both for angels and human beings, hmm? Now do you understand why I've been asking for that precious example, hmm, from you?

MuttleyLaff:
Are you thick or what? Where in Deuteronomy 14:22-29 or Acts 15, do you see God approving or disapproving tithing, hmm?

Oh oh, its not a matter of how God specified it, is it now? You see what I mean by, dont try that line of questioning type with me now? It wouldnt wash with you, same way, it isnt going to with me too. Now bringing it up, like I've advised you not to. I have moved on from it. This is my last call.

Oya, try these three direct, simple and easy for size questions about the scriptures then to see if or not If God truly sees anything untoward a same sex relationship or men sexing men. Dont ignore them, no excuses and dont do an AWOL

1/ What was the reason given by Lot, for refusing and/or not allowing those wicked and cruel men of Sodom and Gomorrah have gay sex with the angels when they attempted gang raping the angels who had an appearance of human beings, as in, men?
2/ Did Lot say: "Oh no, please you cant dont that. No, men sexing men? Haba guys, God doesnt want men sexing men nau, abeggy dont do that. Shoo! shoo!!. Go away please, ẹ dakun, ẹ jọr. Ẹma ko ba mi. Please I beg you, dont get me into trouble", hmm?
3/ You would expect Lot to say to the guys that God doesnt approve of men sexing men, so they shouldnt consider doing it with these angels, wouldnt you openmine, hmm?

But what did Lot say to the homosexuals?

Did he say 'Guys, guys, I know that this thing is okay if you ask my visitors nicely, but dis one wey na by force una want take do am, E no wise nah?

was that what Lot said? No.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so ~~~wickedly~~~.

So, the Act of homosexuality is wickedness.

openmine:


Once again you spew so much trash like a mollycoddle teen with little or no self-worth!
Your obtuse and fortuitous expressions will always leave a trail of gibberish which you will eventually deny!
Well what can one expect from a supposed grown-up acting like an infant?

Kid i have commitments in the real world!
Don't expect me to remain glued to my screen ad infinitum like you to deliberate on issues that have long been concluded even before it started!
I had given you a befitting reply which you dodged as if it was an explosion...
The day you goof scandalously and horrendously was when you mindlessly forced yourself to present a scripture in 1 john 4:16 as proof of God endorsing homosexuality!

You are now trying in-efficaciously to imply that 'lot' has now become God's prophet or mouth-piece?
My prevaricating kiddo,grow up...!

Who is kid, kiddo to you, "abi oofe dagba ni", you better watch, wash and disinfect your mouth, alakori suegbe oshi. Pesin dem teach for home, wey no gree take home training. Mtchew!.

Shepherd00:
But what did Lot say to the homosexuals?

Did he say 'Guys, guys, I know that this thing is okay if you ask my visitors nicely, but dis one wey na by force una want take do am, E no wise nah?

was that what Lot said? No.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so ~~~wickedly~~~.

So, the Act of homosexuality is wickedness.

I am beginning to, in a small way that has increasing potential, warm towards you Shepherd00. Do you know why? You are now starting to think outside the box and broadly too.

I like your version of events. Good guessing but the conjecture is off the chart and that is why you quickly agreed with saying No, at the end of it. Well done.

You are right though that homosexuality is wicked, but what type or sort of wicked homosexuality was Lot referring to. Also you've just joined in today and so wouldn't know about the question I ask OkCornel and openmine earlier. Let me personally ask you, the others have flatly been evasive.

Shepherd00, what was the reason Lot gave, aside wickedness, for refusing the men the desire to gang rape the "men", we know they are angel?. Thank you. I know I can count on you for a good, correct and meaningful answer.

MuttleyLaff:
Who is kid, kiddo to you, "abi oofe dagba ni", you better watch, wash and disinfect your mouth, alakori suegbe oshi. Pesin dem teach for home, wey no gree take home training. Mtchew!.

Just shut it there kid!
If not for this issue that kept me here do you think I will be here exchanges words with a infant who has no decorum for anyone?
A kid displaying puerile tantrums!
Its even too obvious from the gutter-like utterances ebbing from ur loquacious tongue!
An immature prevaricator who lacks respect and proper hometraining!
Smh

MuttleyLaff:
I know people can be slippery as eels. I need to get hold of you by the collar, wrist or trousers, so you won't have any chance of wriggling away to escape me holding and pinning you down. Are you equating strange flesh to be anything else other than being only angels or you equate it to be both for angels and human beings, hmm? Now do you understand why I've been asking for that precious example, hmm, from you?

Muttley, muttley, muttley. I have told you what going after strange flesh is. The unnatural desire for a man to lust after a fellow man and have sex with him.

Strange flesh in this context i.e. unnatural desire of a man burning with desire and lust for a fellow man.

MuttleyLaff:
I am beginning to, in a small way that has increasing potential, warm towards you Shepherd00. Do you know why? You are now starting to think outside the box and broadly. I like your version of events. Good guessing but the conjecture is off the chart and that is why you quickly agreed with saying No. You are right though that homosexuality is wicked, but what type or sort of wicked homosexuality was Lot referring to.

That nails it.

MuttleyLaff:

Also you've just joined in today and so wouldn't know about the question I ask OkCornel and openmine earlier. Let me personally ask you, the other have flatly been evasive. Shepherd00, what was the reason Lot gave, aside wickedness, for refusing the men the desire to gang rape the "men", we know they are angel?. Thank you. I know I can count on you for a good, correct and meaningful answer.

What a barefaced lie. Shepherd00, please check this thread and point out where I was evasive to Muttley's question on this matter...

OkCornel:
Muttley, muttley, muttley. I have told you what going after strange flesh is. The unnatural desire for a man to lust after a fellow man and have sex with him.

Strange flesh in this context i.e. unnatural desire of a man burning with desire and lust for a fellow man

Thank you so very much. I have obtained what I needed. Thanks again.

Hmmm, smh, very very interesting that strange flesh according to OkCornel, is unnatural desire for aan to lust after a fellow man and have sex with him. Not only that but that is meaning in the context that Jude used too, I believe OkCornel is saying too. "O pari" as in End of film.

Just sit down and lean back, I'll tell you what strange flesh really and correctly is plus what it isn't OkCornel.

Shepherd00:

But what did Lot say to the homosexuals?

Did he say 'Guys, guys, I know that this thing is okay if you ask my visitors nicely, but dis one wey na by force una want take do am, E no wise nah?

was that what Lot said? No.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so ~~~wickedly~~~.

So, the Act of homosexuality is wickedness.

Thank you very much. This was the same response I gave him earlier today...

Genesis 19 v 7-8 (KJV);
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.
8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Genesis 19 v 7-8 (Amplified Bible)
7 and said, “Please, my brothers, do not do something so wicked.
8 See here, I have two daughters who have not known a man [intimately]; please let me bring them out to you [instead], and you can do as you please with them; only do nothing to these men, because they have in fact come under the shelter of my roof [for protection].

For an entire village of old and young men insisting on having sex with two male visitors (obviously an act of homosexuality) was deemed an act of wickedness.

Now, note how Lot offered his virgin daughters to be raped, rather than those male visitors...

https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/27#79658955

But Muttley lied I have been evasive...

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you so very much. I have obtained what I needed. Thanks again.

Hmmm, smh, very very interesting that strange flesh according to OkCornel, is unnatural desire for aan to lust after a fellow man and have sex with him. Not only that but that is meaning in the context that Jude used too, I believe OkCornel is saying too. "O pari" as in End of film.

Just sit down and lean back, I'll tell you what strange flesh really and correctly is plus what it isn't OkCornel.

Don't forget to put your source(s) here. Meanwhile, amongst other unanswered questions, we are awaiting your source(s) to the interpretation of Arsenokytes...

OkCornel:


Thank you very much. This was the same response I gave him earlier today...



https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/27#79658955

But Muttley lied I have been evasive...

MuttleyLaff is totally lost.

MuttleyLaff:
I am beginning to, in a small way that has increasing potential, warm towards you Shepherd00. Do you know why? You are now starting to think outside the box and broadly too.

I like your version of events. Good guessing but the conjecture is off the chart and that is why you quickly agreed with saying No, at the end of it. Well done.

You are right though that homosexuality is wicked, but what type or sort of wicked homosexuality was Lot referring to. Also you've just joined in today and so wouldn't know about the question I ask OkCornel and openmine earlier. Let me personally ask you, the others have flatly been evasive.

Shepherd00, what was the reason Lot gave, aside wickedness, for refusing the men the desire to gang rape the "men", we know they are angel?. Thank you. I know I can count on you for a good, correct and meaningful answer.

MuttleyLaff, I didn't think outside of any box, it's there in the Bible. Lot said homosexuality is a very wicked act hence, he refused them his visitors.

But, Why have you refused to tell why Lot wld prefer to give his female virgins to the men instead of males?

MuttleyLaff:
I
You are right though that homosexuality is wicked, but what type or sort of wicked homosexuality was Lot referring to. Also you've just joined in today and so wouldn't know about the question I ask OkCornel and openmine earlier. Let me personally ask you, the others have flatly been evasive.

When I said this infant is an unrepentant prevaricator,people thought I was just playing with words!
He has used his own bare hands to dig his grave!
What a pathetic display! Smh

MuttleyLaff:
I am not scared of nobody, I am scared of no man, so I helped called out his name, for sake of any wondering who you're refering, since you chickenly couldnt bring yourself to outrightly ention his moniker ID

openmine, do you remember Ted Haggard? Do you remember the depth of his hypocrisy? Being cold dead hypocrite in every way? Preaching vile hatred against gays, I guess was preaching to himself, knowing fully well he is one? Well, like I've said, I dont disagree with OkCornel, we agree to disagree, however I reserve my right to disagree with his hypocrisy, which I've made clear what that is.

1/ https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/24#79630518
2/ https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/24#79631067

I'll try and get time to response to those two above openmine URL link posts. I have never seen an elephant fly but two post took the biscuit. He was writing like he was trying to cram too much rubbish into a bin bag, like trying to get huge bags of rubbish quashed into a rubbish bin. Instead of him to read more, do the research, he wouldnt and didnt, so opened himself to displaying such ignorance and embarrassing himself by just talking and typing off the top of his head

I thought openmine was only a prude, didnt realise it gets better, he lives a sheltered bubble life. His above #1 post, I am to response to just proves it

Do you know who Jimmy Carter is. You would know Archbishop Desmond Tutu sha though, if not former POTUS Jimmy Carter

You really think EmperorHarry doesnt

That must be your twin brother in the picture, since you have vast knowledge and understanding more than I do concerning what is perversion and know more than I do on the badness of two men having sex together, please tell, what exactly, as in, what specifically is bad in two consenting males, adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part relationship bad and why particularly, you see their sexual behaviour considered evil, abnormal and unacceptable?

Ditto here too

The fundamental issue here is that there’s a competition of strong and aggressive masculine pride going on

You are sick MuttleyLaff, very sick.

Shepherd00:

MuttleyLaff, I didn't think outside of any box, it's there in the Bible. Lot said homosexuality is a very wicked act hence, he refused them his visitors.

But, Why have you refused to tell why Lot wld prefer to give his female virgins to the men instead of males?

Keep insisting on it....if not he will digress!

How can someone read Romans 1 v 26-27 and still be canvassing for "consensual" same sex relationship?

Romans 1 v 26-28 (AKJV)

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;








It takes a reprobate mind to defend consensual same sex relationship...which goes against nature's design!
Muttley, take note of Romans 1 v 27 where it said men left the natural use of a woman, and burned with lust "ONE TOWARD ANOTHER"...
This is clearly against consensual same sex relationship! This is should be self explanatory for someone who claims to be knowledgeable!

OkCornel:


Don't forget to put your source(s) here. Meanwhile, amongst other unanswered questions, we are awaiting your source(s) to the interpretation of Arsenokytes...

MuttleyLaff. this question has been asked several times, why haven't you answered nau?

MuttleyLaff:
I know people can be slippery as eels. I need to get hold of you by the collar, wrist or trousers, so you won't have any chance of wriggling away to escape me holding and pinning you down. Are you equating strange flesh to be anything else other than being only angels or you equate it to be both for angels and human beings, hmm? Now do you understand why I've been asking for that precious example, hmm, from you?

Guy, you are the slimy one here o.

Did Jude refer to Angels going after strange flesh in that context[b]or men going after strange flesh (unnatural desire asin men sexing men)?

He drew a comparison between the action of what men did with men in Sodom and likened it to what the Fallen Angels did which got them cast into the abyss.

You have a way of twisting words trying to confuse the unfocussed.

Shepherd00:

MuttleyLaff is totally lost.

Don't mind that covetous OkCornel, he is lusting after the small glory I gave you. He wants to be cojoined in the shine, even when he can see that I still asked you to give me Lot's reason for refusing the attempting gang raping. He is jealous because I was generous with you than him. Shepherd00, fyi, Lot gave a reason for the wickedness and for refusing them. What did Lot say, what was the reason he gave for the refusal, aside the obvious wickedness.