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Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Godfullsam(m): 7:06am On Jul 04, 2019 |
Carlyboi: Ramsey wants 250k per week. If arsenal renews his contract with the hope of selling him to make gain, I tell you no club will come for him because he simply doesn't deserve that kind of wage considering his injury records. Arsenal will be stuck with another ozil. |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by vicardino(m): 7:15am On Jul 04, 2019 |
kollinz1234: Wouldn't have replied if you hadn't used the word "mediocre" which I doubt you truly understand its meaning. Where were these clubs and sales you mentioned when arsenal was known as a business club combining winning trophies with selling players hence making huge profits? In what year did Liverpool get rated as being richer than arsenal and by what margin after having two successful seasons? I'm trying to nail you |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Mrjo(m): 7:18am On Jul 04, 2019 |
Nbote:I don't know if you remember Lord bertina situation and others all the players listed were inrragular how can you commit somebody you are not sure of? |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Mrjo(m): 7:25am On Jul 04, 2019 |
Adakintroy2:say it louder the op and others that against arsenal are mumu |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by obi3x(m): 7:44am On Jul 04, 2019 |
Adakintroy2:Obviously,player potential,and I'm quite in tune with the op |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by LeSulk(m): 9:18am On Jul 04, 2019 |
Exaggerations asides, the op made some valid points. Our hierarchy has this habit of waiting till the players final season before negotiating a new deal. That alone puts the player in a prime position of either getting paid more than what he's worth (like Özil, Walcott) or leaving for 'free' (like RvP, Sánchez, Szczesny or Ramsey). The decent quid we got on some of our players came when we were still Man City's shoprite (like Adebayor). If the trend continues, we'll keep getting peanuts for players who should have gone for way more. Our sales cannot even cover a good chunk of our transfer budget. That alone is worrying. I once read an article where in the last 7-10 years we've let 25 players (starting XI or regular subs) go for a cumulative of £75m. That is £3m per player or £5m more than Chelsea paid for the World Class Morata. P. S:Chamberlain left for good money. Dude has glass bones. Koscielny had more goals than him if you put the 4-5 years both were Gunners together into context. The only other player that went for good money was Vermaelen for £15m. But then again, Barça love a good overprice. |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by ashleyman(m): 10:02am On Jul 04, 2019 |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by AuwalYusuf812(m): 10:31am On Jul 04, 2019 |
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Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by ledamaster(m): 12:28pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
Nbote: besides Ramsey, all the above players you mentioned wanted to go. Arsenals problen was allowing the trabsfers to run down to one year. when you get to a year, the powee shifts from Arsenal or the club to the players. So Ramsey wanted to stay, they shpuld have aigned hom on, he was a zillion times better than Ozil. Chambalien wanted out, what do you do with a player thats not willing to play for you? Let him go. cos a sad player ia liie a rottem apple in the midst of bunch. it nesses up the whole bunch. The biggest mistake Arsenal made was letting Dean leave, not selling to Usmanov, selling the club to the Kroenke Heediot, and allowing wenger decide the value of players. Now it will take years to get in quality players, hopefully Umery would reverse the rot. 1.players like Lacazea, Gondozou, torriera, the left and right backs plus last seasons highest goal scorer are worth 2-3 times their value. |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Adakintroy2: 12:30pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
kollinz1234: Arrogance will never let you learn. Starting argment with insult will not get you any fact. Am not talking relating to football alone. Many of you do not ask the op to clearly define the term "potentials" is he relating to finance. I.e what the player is worth overtime in future. Or in terms of ability. How the player is able to adapt, cop or evolve over time in competitive football clime. giving the right technical assistance and right conditions. Either way, the former is condition to a great deal by the later. In time past, no other clubs have been able to take advantage of player potentials as arsenal. Ability to see and bring in young players for future reference or use is a testimony to these fact. Hence no other clubs have been able to do better football busines in the last tow decades than arsenal under wenger. The list speaks volume in itself from 1996/1997 when he took over. Emmanuel petit, overmars, selvinho, van bronchost, Alexander hleb, fabregas, song, henry(all to Baca alone) Anelka =(to real madrid). Viera=juventus, Ashley cole= Chelsea. Nasri, adebayo, cliche, sagna, Colo toure, (mancity alone). Van persi, Sanchez=(man united). Alex chamberlain = liverpool. Now a player potential for pricing is depended on its peculiar form at a giving time. So far there are no know mechanism for measuring that. If salah had perform well at chelsea, he will still be at chelsea. Some time the right enviromention, state of mind of player, coaching may contribute a great deal. If we got chamberlain for 15 and sold him for 35 after 5yrs of service. We still got the better of him and made huge profit. That was a good judgment of potentials in my book seeing we did not record a loose and he was never our player. We got him too from somewhere.what he will become in the future is unknown. Those price you judge as absolutes are potential price, depending too on factors. I.e. the player may go on lengthy injuries or may loose form. Coutihno was sold for 140. But giving his performance so far. I doubt if anyclub club will pay 70 for him. That is my emphasis. In all i mentain that Arsenal have been the best in term of judging potential of players. say that because of their transfer history in the last two decade in relations to other clubs. |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Adakintroy2: 12:45pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
obi3x: That's bullshit. That's not the massage op is communicatin. He is cashing in on the transfer crisis at arsenal to paint them in an even gruesome light. What he is trying to communicating in whole is that arsenal board have been making poor choice on the business front. What is player potential is relative to the player form at a particular time and there are no known machanism for measuring that. Chelsea gave thesame salah a run and nothing happened. But today what do we say of salah.? in the whole no other club among the top flight have done better business in the last two decades than arsenal. You don't just argue a student is bad, you judge him in relations to other students. That's the way to see things. That's how you should judge. At some point arsenal became know as a children camp. We're they rare and sell to top clubs even rivals. Van persie, Ashley cole fabregas, Nasri, song, adebayo. Cliche. Henry, anelka, sanchez. Those are the once I can remember. Again until you can find me one club that have done better than arsenal among the lot. You have not made any point. |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Finest4luv1(m): 1:13pm On Jul 04, 2019 |
samcus:why say so? |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by obi3x(m): 7:58am On Jul 05, 2019 |
Adakintroy2:Nonetheless, these players exuded great potential to be sold for such amount as they were....Sancho at 19 is valued at close to a hundred mil.joao Felix at 19 just signed for ATM for 126m..gnabry's display at arsenal equates to Sancho's at dortmund at d moment,save for the playing time,and he went for a meager 5mil.guess the policy back then was to release the player at all cost.... |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Adakintroy2: 8:35am On Jul 05, 2019 |
obi3x: Many of you don't do your research well..no other club give youngsters better opportunity more than arsenal. No one. Gnarby was highly rated by Wenger. He was prone to injuries that was his major problem. As at then there were also few limited space. But Wenger kept faith in him. He was loned to west brom. And even west brom could not keep. Inconsistencies and injury. He just could not go a whole season without picking up a major knock. Eventually weder Bremen came calling and we were thankfull to let him go. No regrets. No one would have guess how he would have turn out. Still as a gunners we are happy for him. Chelsea sold salah for 13m. How much is saka worth now. How about Kelvin debruyn? |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Adakintroy2: 8:35am On Jul 05, 2019 |
obi3x: Many of you don't do your research well..no other club give youngsters better opportunity more than arsenal. No one. Gnarby was highly rated by Wenger. He was prone to injuries that was his major problem. As at then there were also few limited space. But Wenger kept faith in him. He was loned to west brom. And even west brom could not keep. Inconsistencies and injury. He just could not go a whole season without picking up a major knock. Eventually weder Bremen came calling and we were thankfull to let him go. No regrets. No one would have guess how he would have turn out. Still as a gunners we are happy for him. Chelsea sold salah for 13m. How much is salah worth now. How about Kelvin debruyn? |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by obi3x(m): 11:21am On Jul 05, 2019 |
Adakintroy2:Well,we sold none of these guys for double figures....neves denilson,amaury bischoff,Gavin hoyte,Fran merida,Carlos vela,Samuel gallindo,geidon zelalem etc....massive massive talent..u could argue that,they never justified the tag attached them,but still...... 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Lose £210m In Four Years Thanks To Poor Transfer Dealings by Alejobs: 11:44am On Jul 25, 2019 |
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