Siralgebra04:


I don't condone mediocrity. In Islam, we address issues based on facts and proofs. All these u said are d trash narrated to u or dobbed from google. Back all ur lies with verses from d Holy Quran, we don't entertain assumptions in Islam.

I reiterate, u will never see any contradiction or discrepancy in d Holy Quran.

Ogbeni, ur mediocrity has been proven on this thread. You made a claim, it was verified to be untrue. Kindly go to one corner and hang your head in shame. This is no matter for small Islamic kids, only well versed Islamic scholars will do.

bigbabyboy:



This is hilarious. The Bible stole it's stories from various African religious concept. Those various African Religious concepts that came from most cultures and civilizations that had hardly discovered the technology of writing? Go back to school, study history of the Jews, learn when they discovered how to write and compare their civilization to African civilizations vis-a-vis when they started to learn to write. Moses wrote down the Pentateuch don't forget that.

You are wrong.

Africans own the oldest communities in living history.

The Christian bible is a fabrication of older religious concepts from around the world.

Stop reading about fake history, the history of the Jews is a made up history; instead go and study African history with respect to African historians.

Roman's created most of the Abrahamic religious text in order to subdue their poor citizens.

The authors of the Christian bible, the Romans, stole much of their content from African religious concepts without giving Africans their due and deserved credit.

All manufactured religions are fake, false and counterintuitive.

MorataFC:
Let it be known to you if you have not know before, all the religions on earth stole their story line from Bible, copied their belief from from the original HOLY book

ALL Not the other way around? Inspired by the holy spirit or not, the authors of each books were well traveled. It is very possible they took the stories of local places and made a story out of it

bigbabyboy:

Those various African Religious concepts that came from most cultures and civilizations that had hardly discovered the technology of writing?

I don't know what history you are being taught.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.
Africa owns the first verbal and written languages.
Civilization began in Africa and then, they proceeded to give their civilization to the rest of the world.

Humanity began in Africa and our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world.

During those times, the only people living in the entire world are within the African continent and are all black, brown and bronze Africans.

Amujale:


NO, it's the bible that copy, edit paste from various African religious concepts. That's where it got the name bible from bibliography.

Both the Christian bible and Quaran copied their text from older religious concepts from all accross the globe.

Trashhh

Amujale:


Nonsense, it's the bible that stole its stories from various African religious concepts. That's where it got the name bible from bibliography.



Precisely, the Christian bible and Quaran stole their text from older religious concepts from all accross the globe. The book of revelation is a direct copy from a more older African religious concept.

Pls, where is the concept?

ScotMisile:


Pls, where is the concept?

There is no story from Abrahamic text that can claim to being original, if it wasn't stolen, plagerized then it was often fabricated.

Name one out of any of the famous stories peddled by the christian bible, and let me proof to you that they lack originality.

ScotMisile:

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I can honestly say that the Romans wrote the bible in a way that put their characters living in an earlier period in time to the actual one they wrote from.

They made numerous mistakes, the main mistake was their lack of knowledge of facts, dates, timeline and chronology.

Because they spent all their time copying, stealing and desecrating other peoples sacred sites, they misinterpreted numerous facts and figures.

Infact, much of the Abrahamic text was written on the move.

After they overwhelmed their enemies, they would sack a city of its riches and later move to steal all their sacred text and monuments.

Then, they would later force the local priest and or devotees to interprete their text. These text and concepts would later be incoporated into their biblography.

There are countless nations that the Roman armies actually wiped off the face of the Earth, purposefully meaning to leave no trace of their existence.

As each military campaign passed, the stories grew larger and lager. The Emperor became adicted to these story collecting that he launch wars based on the monetary and spiritual spoils of his foes.

Before long, the Emperor had himself the bible.

Most of these stories are copied from ancient philosophies and concepts from around the globe, with the authors creating their own characters and storylines, in some instances, the Romans didnt bother to change the names of the main chatacters of the stolen stories.
Some are simply fabricated or made up.

The Emperor later used these same compilation of text to first subdue rebellious factions and later to subdue his peasants so that they continued to pay their taxes.

Amujale:


There is no story from Abrahamic text that can claim to being original, if it wasn't stolen, plagerized then it was often fabricated.

Name one out of any of the famous stories peddled by the christian bible, and let me proof to you that they lack originality.

Abrahamic story

Amujale:



I can honestly say that the Romans wrote the bible in a way so as to seem that it was written in the past.

They made numerous mistakes, the main mistake was their lack of knowledge of facts, dates, timeline and chronology.

Because they spent all their time copying, stealing and desecrating other peoples sacred sites, they misinterpreted numerous facts and figures.

Infact, much of the Abrahamic text was written on the move.

After they overwhelmed their enemies, they would sack a city of its riches and later move to steal all their sacred text and monuments.

Then, they would later force the local priest and or devotees to interprete their text. These text and concepts would later be incoporated into their biblography.

There are countless nations that the Roman armies actually wiped off the face of the Earth, purposefully meaning to leave no trace of their existence.

As each military campaign passed, the stories grew larger and lager. The Emperor became adicted to these story collecting that he launch wars based on the monetary and spiritual spoils of his foes.

Before long, the Emperor had himself the bible.

Most of these stories are copied from ancient philosophies and concepts from around the globe, with the authors creating their own characters and storylines, in some instances, the Romans didnt bother to change the names of the main chatacters of the stolen stories.
Some are simply fabricated or made up.

The Emperor later used these same compilation of text to firdt subdue rebellious factions and later to subdue his peasants so that they continued to pay their taxes.

Rubbish

ScotMisile:


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And then after the fall of the Roman Empire, the Early Crusaders got their hands on it.

They continued in the same way as the Romans, and then took it to another new level.

Similar to the Roman's, getting people to accept their gospels from behind the tip of their swords, they would later replicate these tactics behind the barrell of a gun.

These barbaric actions persisted into the 20th century.

Amujale:
And then after the fall of the Roman Empire, the Early Crusaders got their hands on it.

They continued in the same way as the Romans, and then took it to another new level.

Similar to the Roman's, getting people to accept their gospels from behind the tip of their swords, they would later replicate these tactics behind the barrell of a gun.

These barbaric actions persisted into the 20th century.

Pls, what are you smoking?

ScotMisile:

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Name one out of any of the famous stories peddled by the Abrahamic text, and let me proof to you that they lack originality.

All manufactured religions are fake, false, counterintuitive and unfit for purpose.

All manufactured religions acquire much of their religious concepts from Africa.

During the heights of the Roman Empire all of Europe and many parts of Asia are said to have worshipped African divinities. e.g Isis and Horus

After the Roman invasion of KM.T, then their Emperor commissioned the bibliography that copied much of Africas divinities into their newly manufactured religions.

African ancestors invented the concept of religion, Asian and Europeans stole these concepts so as to create they own version of African spirituality.

GLYCOLYSISS:

I went through Mathew 17:21,and it was there..
I actually use king James version.
Here is what it said:
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting"

Now going down to Mathew 18:11,I noticed it was still there.
These is what it said :
" for the son of man is come to save that which was lost"
Going further down to Mathew 23:14,nothing was omitted there.
It reads:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisee,hypocrites ! For ye devour widows houses,and for a pretence make long prayer; therefore ye shall recieve the greater damnation"

So,applicable to all the verses you listed..
You need a screenshot,I will gladly forward them to you,if you need substantial evidence to my claims.
Now,since KJV has the bible verses you listed,can you bring forward the bible version without those verses you claim were omitted ?

Let's be civil with these sir...

He's using Good-NEWS BIBLE

MorataFC:
Let it be known to you if you have not know before, all the religions on earth stole their story line from Bible, copied their belief from from the original HOLY book

Sheer ignorance!!!
You think the world is 2000yrs or 5000yrs old?
"In the beginning was the word, the word was with God....." has been in Egyptian black book of the dead thousands of years before the old testament! Have you heard of Krishna and his strikingly similar story with Jesus? Who came before the other?? You don't know jack! Avoid advertising your ignorance and keep your faith. As for me, I'm not surprised. God has been sending guidance and knowledge to humanity from time of Adam. God couldn't have watched humanity for over 98,000 (ninety eight thousand) years without a path to salvation, only for Him to offer Himself or His son who is also a part of the Godhead as a sacrifice, and only path to salvation just 2019 years ago; when the world is about to end as claimed. No! That's not true. Guidance has been coming to man from time to time but of course, the messages are corrupted with time out of sheer ignorance, pride, religious competition, and in doing these, we run down God's messengers to justify our elevation of others; some are even raised to the status of the Almighty Creator in the name of supremacy of faith.

ScotMisile:


Abrahamic story

That story is originally of ancient Palestine, one that has been redacted and fabricated.

For instance, in the original story, Abraham was said to have visited Egypt, was given audience to the Pharaoh.

Much of the original story wasn't able to make it to the publishers as was the final decisions of the Roman aristocrats that authored these books.

Conclusion, that story is not original to the neither the Jews nor the Romans.

Nawa ooo see nonsenses

Not so, that is what the authors of Abrahamic text would want you to believe.

In actual fact, Rome predates both Christianity and Judaism.

Regardless of what Abrahamic text says, Judaism is a relatively new religion.

When the Eurocentric Crusaders were busy stealing and desecrating religious concepts around the world, there was no such religion called Judaism or Christianity

Christianity was manufactured by Rome before Judaism later became a religion after the renassance.

Therefore, Rome manufactured Christianity, and the early Crusaders manufactured Judaism.

The Muhammedian movement created Islam to protect the Arabs from continuous philosophical domination by Rome.

Its a typical case of cause to have a means instead of "means to a cause".

Its all a massive fabrication.

A complete and utter CON.

The truth is that we are all being conned by first century Roman aristocrats and highly educated Ancient Islamic scholars into believing ficticious characters from inside their chosen and personal biblographies.

All those Abrahamic religious text are not what they claims to be, instead they are biblographies, a compilation of various stories and typologies from accross the globe, the contents which have been re-packaged, sex-ed up or outrightly fabricated.

Now is the time to STOP and THINK.

Africans invented paper and they invented the ink pen.
Africa owns the first verbal and written languages.
Civilization began in Africa and then, they proceeded to give their civilization to the rest of the world.

Humanity began in Africa and our ancestors went on to populate the rest of the world.

During those times, the only people living in the entire world are within what they now call the African continent and are all black, brown and bronze people.

African spirituality is the only verifiable religious concepts present in the world today, all other versions are seen as derivatives, false or fake.

Excaperx:
Egyptians was a fairytale?

there is nothing in all of Egypt's history, which mentions a Pharoah who perished by drowning in pursuit of millions... nor the existence of millions of hebrew slaves, nor devastating plagues... in fact, if things transpired as the bible described, Egypt would have crumbled and never recover...
Imagine the economic implication of a nation losing its basic workforce of slaves over night... and having millions of its sons die in one night... all this after a series of devastating plagues which would bring the mightiest empire to its knees...
Yet, Egypt remained a powerful nation, economically and militarily for a very very long time...

let me tell you I was once an atheist like you, I know everything about atheism and all the counter arguments.

i call Bullsheet!!

Believe me, there is something spiritual in this world

Hmm

ScotMisile:


Trashhh

Better read more to be enlightened on religion. What Amujale is saying is true.

Just like Qur'an is plagiarized from the Bible, the Bible is also plagiarized from the holy books of much older religions, especially the ancient religion of Egypt.

With time, slaves of Allah, who call themselves Muslims, and those of Yahweh, who don't even know they are slaves, will see the truths about Abrahamic religions, and religions generally.

Religion is a political tool to keep people enslaved (in check).

Some slaves (religionists) deserve to be kept in check, though.

hopefulLandlord:
there is nothing in all of Egypt's history, which mentions a Pharoah who perished by drowning in pursuit of millions...

Exactly, you absolutely correct here, yet, the Irony of that particular storyline is that Pharaoh Ramese the second is considered to be one of Ancient Egypt's greatest Monarch.

The Battle of Kadesh clearly states that Pharaoh Ramses beat down and forced a hostile army into the sea.

And that story seems to have been bastardised to the greatest extent.

Many of the hostile armies are depicted to have been drowned by the forces of the warrior-king Pharaoh as depicted in the 20th century re-copy.


Ramses II in his chariot at the Battle of Kadesh (battle between the Egyptians and the Hittites of Muwatalli II, took place in 1274 BCE). Image is dated 1285 BCE

gensteejay:


Just like Qur'an is plagiarized from the Bible, the Bible is also plagiarized from the holy books of much older religions, especially the ancient religion of Egypt.

Yes, I totally agree with you.

The Christian Bible and the Quaran are both implicated by each other.

sonofElElyon:
You have succeeded in displaying acute bias and ignorance.. Your sources are like minded..
It is agreed among all archaeologists and historians that Matthew mark and john were disciples.
Luke was not a direct disciple and never claimed to be. If you read the beginning of the gospel of Luke, you would notice that. Also the book of acts which he wrote.. He was however fully seised of all the activities of Jesus and was an active participant in the spreading of the gospel as recorded in acts..
All other sources about the life and times of Jesus are hearsay and therefore unreliable.. Only the bible is eye witness account..

You know what I don't really have time for this. But can you plz explain John 21:24 pls?

All manufactured religions are false, fake and counterintuitive.

bilms:
Stop the argument please.

Pause a bit

Then think.

You may see God from within you, not from any book.

Thanks

�... You don't need a book to connect with God .. I always get angry when Africans most especially Nigerians exchange arguments on religion. Both Christianity n Islam is never ours, they gave them to us.. So why should we be arguing over something we don't know its origins. Some people r arguing about the so called holybooks that our fathers/mothers weren't there when they are writing the books? All what this Westerners call pagan for us is what they use to make money in their country ń u r here arguing over what is never yours. Go and read about history of Africa/Blacks ń your eyes will be open that the religion Arabs n Westerners gave us is the most backward ever happened to us. The owner of these books don't even practice it the way we do, look at their country, look at ours.... Africa needs to wake up from this religion shit n go back to what we know

ScotMisile:


Check those Christians who converted to Islam. .it was done by the sword of jihad.. .No stable free minded man will choos3 islam

�. Go to US go and see by yourself and you will tell me if sword was used.

Islam is growing up faster in US, UK, Philippine,india,china,japan, etc. Many churches have been turn to mosques in some country. Everyday by day Christianity is decreasing.

bilms:
Quran, Ifa and the Bible
By Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

Recently, in the course of research about history, i came in contact with a book on Ifa corpus.

I took interest in it because, I have heard many times that in ifa, exists history of many towns and people and i really wanted to know how true this is.

So, i took a copy of this ifa book to read.

Surprisingly, in the chapter one of the book, titled eji ogbe, a story, closely related to that which was narrated by the Quran and Bible was contained in it.

If you remember, the Quran and Bible told a story about the miraculous birth of a child called Jesus or Isa.

In both narratives, they said a virgin lady named Marry or Mariam (as the case may be), that is not married conceived the child without ever being with any man.

Bible said Marry conceived Jesus through holy spirit and the Quran said Mariam conceived Isa through what Islamic Scholars described as "kun fa ya kun".

I have just found out that similar story was narrated in an Odu Ifa called eji ogbe.

Ifa called the woman Oyigi and the child, ela.

According to the story, oyigi is unmarried and a revelation from ifa came to her that she will give birth to a miraculous child, a child that will be God's messenger.

Soon, she got pregnant as prophesied without meeting any man, went into the bush and eventually gave birth to the child she named ela.

The child, according to the story, became the most knowledgeable about ifa and when Orunmila is returning to heaven or eledumare, he entrusted spiritual knowledge of ifa to ela and asked all ifa messengers to refer to ela when they have any question.

Could this ifa story, be said to be similar to that of the quran and bible?

Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

Didn't see this thread on time.

The story of a virgin mother giving birth to a son of God is actually an African story hijacked by Europeans. A long time before Jesus (who never existed) Isis was a virgin mother in Africa who gave birth to Horus the son of God. Even before Horus there was Osiris- the first resurrection story ever. So, Ifa's virgin birth story is actually older than the bible and koran.

The following books are for anybody who want to research more about the origin of Christianity.

Bible myths and their parallel in other religions- T.W Doane
Christianity before Christ- John G Jackson
The sixteen crucified saviors- Karsey Graves
101 Myths of the Bible: How ancient scribes invented biblical history- Gary Greenberg
NAILED: Ten Christian myths that show Jesus never existed at all- David Fitzgerald.
Myth and ritual in Christianity- Alan Watts
Anacalypsis- Godfrey Higgins

And if you don't have time and want a summary, the below documentary and lecture explains the African origin of Christianity, and all other religions for that matter.

The origin of all religions - Dr. Robert Bauval
How Europeans hijacked African spirituality to control the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NisfS4x1R4

The origin of all religions - Dr. James Small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYOMB2orvMo

sammhi:

Good
Have you seen Aetheist that have become Christians? Have you seen Muslims that turn to become Christians . Well if you have never lemme tell you that Bishop Oyedepo of winners was a Muslim...pastor Bakare was a Muslim .we can go on and on..
So.leave this cross carpeting .. people do it for many reasons

�. Go to US go and see by yourself and you will tell me if sword was used.

Islam is growing up faster in US, UK, Philippine,india,china,japan, etc. Many churches have been turn to mosques in some country. Everyday by day Christianity is decreasing.

musicwriter:


Didn't see this thread on time.

The story of a virgin mother giving birth to a son of God is actually an African story hijacked by Europeans. A long time before Jesus (who never existed) Isis was a virgin mother in Africa who gave birth to Horus the son of God. Even before Horus there was Osiris- the first resurrection story ever. So, Ifa's virgin birth story is actually older than the bible and koran.

The following books are for anybody who want to research more about the origin of Christianity.

Bible myths and their parallel in other religions- T.W Doane
Christianity before Christ- John G Jackson
The sixteen crucified saviors- Karsey Graves
101 Myths of the Bible: How ancient scribes invented biblical history- Gary Greenberg
NAILED: Ten Christian myths that show Jesus never existed at all- David Fitzgerald.
Myth and ritual in Christianity- Alan Watts
Anacalypsis- Godfrey Higgins

And if you don't have time and want a summary, the below documentary and lecture explains the African origin of Christianity, and all other religions for that matter.

The origin of all religions - Dr. Robert Bauval
How Europeans hijacked African spirituality to control the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NisfS4x1R4

The origin of all religions - Dr. James Small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB8qZQ_SkLw

Teach!

Xpress24:
and i know countless muslim and atheist that got converted when the encounter christ.

�. Go to US go and see by yourself and you will tell me if sword was used.

Islam is growing up faster in US, UK, Philippine,india,china,japan, etc. Many churches have been turn to mosques in some country. Everyday by day Christianity is decreasing.