Amitez:

God bless you.

gratiaeo:

Pure truth

validstar1:
Most religions copy, edit and paste from the bible

aremuforlife:
There are lots of ODU in IFA that relate to some stories in both Quran and Bibles.
It is just that we don't want to believe anything from IFA because of the belief that it's is idol Worship.
There is an odu that when it appear the people there either Christian or Muslim will shout Hallelujah or Allahu Akba

aremuforlife:
There are lots of ODU in IFA that relate to some stories in both Quran and Bibles.

musicwriter:

...Ifa's virgin story is actually older than the bible and the kuran...

bilms:
Quran, Ifa and the Bible
By Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

Recently, in the course of research about history, i came in contact with a book on Ifa corpus.

I took interest in it because, I have heard many times that in ifa, exists history of many towns and people and i really wanted to know how true this is.

So, i took a copy of this ifa book to read.

Surprisingly, in the chapter one of the book, titled eji ogbe, a story, closely related to that which was narrated by the Quran and Bible was contained in it.

If you remember, the Quran and Bible told a story about the miraculous birth of a child called Jesus or Isa.

In both narratives, they said a virgin lady named Marry or Mariam (as the case may be), that is not married conceived the child without ever being with any man.

Bible said Marry conceived Jesus through holy spirit and the Quran said Mariam conceived Isa through what Islamic Scholars described as "kun fa ya kun".

I have just found out that similar story was narrated in an Odu Ifa called eji ogbe.

Ifa called the woman Oyigi and the child, ela.

According to the story, oyigi is unmarried and a revelation from ifa came to her that she will give birth to a miraculous child, a child that will be God's messenger.

Soon, she got pregnant as prophesied without meeting any man, went into the bush and eventually gave birth to the child she named ela.

The child, according to the story, became the most knowledgeable about ifa and when Orunmila is returning to heaven or eledumare, he entrusted spiritual knowledge of ifa to ela and asked all ifa messengers to refer to ela when they have any question.

Could this ifa story, be said to be similar to that of the quran and bible?

Abdulrazaq O Hamzat

Excaperx:
the Quran Muslims used is just a copy of the Bible and the nonsense Mohammed wrote to join it

ashantitope:
It can be true because our fore fore father's have been worshipping God before they brought us Islam and xtian and remember not all of them then worship idol and If u study history in school you will realize that there something that all this our religion leaders are not telling us but both Muslim, Christian,and ifa worshiper we are all created by one God is just the way we worship him is different and did you know that this ESU that will do talk about or the one the let us know that is devil is a big lie? So ESU is not devil there are different

leksite120:
Have u read d Quran at all? U wil knw kaki no b leather, they r whole different

Benekruku:


ABORU ABOYE BO SISE!

Ifa a gbe o!

Oshin56:
Whether you are a Muslim,Christian, freemason, traditional. The most important aspect of this religion is love your neighbor as yourself, Those books didn't indicate whether your neighbor most be from religion, ...

Oshin56:


because those author of the book knows that there religions is not the only one that exist

MorataFC:
Let it be known to you if you have not know before, all the religions on earth stole their story line from Bible, copied their belief from from the original HOLY book

verifiablefacts:

so Torah(the book of Moses) that was before the bible was copied from the Bible?

Amujale:


.....The Irony of that particular storyline is that Pharaoh Ramese the second is considered to be one of Ancient Egypt's greatest Monarch.

The Battle of Kadesh clearly states that Pharaoh Ramses beat down and forced a hostile army into the sea.

And that story seems to have been bastardised to the greatest extent.

Many of the hostile armies are depicted to have been drowned by the forces of the warrior-king Pharaoh as depicted in the 20th century re-copy.


Ramses II in his chariot at the Battle of Kadesh (battle between the Egyptians and the Hittites of Muwatalli II, took place in 1274 BCE). Image is dated 1285 BCE

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I know on odu that when it appear the priest will shout laila ila Alahu
But that halleluya own I never hear am bro

Kokoebapluse:



You know what I don't really have time for this. But can you plz explain John 21:24 pls?

sonofElElyon:

I know that no matter what I say you will continue your anti Christ crusade but let it be made clear to you that the portion you quoted was an insertion / epilogue added by the early Christians who compiled the writings of john the apostle (disciple).. The aim was just to assure the reader that John's writings were true. The verse itself confirms that the writings are those of John and the compilers of his writings, through this verse that they inserted, confirm that the writings of John that they compiled are true...
You know nothing about the holy scriptures and only look around for whatever you can use to attack Christianity.
May you come to yourself

ScotMisile:
The Bible does not ever mention Anything Islam or ifa, but these pipu keep involving our Bible.. .... because they know they are fake. . The truth is strong enough to stand on its own without referrals.

Excaperx:
the Quran Muslims used is just a copy of the Bible and the nonsense Mohammed wrote to join it

Kokoebapluse:




�. Go to US go and see by yourself and you will tell me if sword was used.

Islam is growing up faster in US, UK, Philippine,india,china,japan, etc. Many churches have been turn to mosques in some country. Everyday by day Christianity is decreasing.

Amujale:


Moses never existed in the way Abrahamic text would have you believe.

Moses is a fictitious character.

How is it that Moses missed the Great Pyramids on the Giza complex?

How did he miss the Great Sphinx?

There is no historical records of a Moses character that supposedly drowned a Pharaoh in the Red sea.

That is fake news.

TAO11:


Why did Christianity make reference to the Jewish Scriptures (i.e. Torah et al.)??

Yet Judaism rejects Jesus as a fraudulent impostor who is cursed by God.

Could it be that Christianity knows itself to be fake and thus needs some validation from the scriptures of another religion that rejects Christianity as a fraud??

shady2royce:


�... You don't need a book to connect with God .. I always get angry when Africans most especially Nigerians exchange arguments on religion. Both Christianity n Islam is never ours, they gave them to us.. So why should we be arguing over something we don't know its origins. Some people r arguing about the so called holybooks that our fathers/mothers weren't there when they are writing the books? All what this Westerners call pagan for us is what they use to make money in their country ń u r here arguing over what is never yours. Go and read about history of Africa/Blacks ń your eyes will be open that the religion Arabs n Westerners gave us is the most backward ever happened to us. The owner of these books don't even practice it the way we do, look at their country, look at ours.... Africa needs to wake up from this religion shit n go back to what we know