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Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by asamaigho(m): 7:22pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: you are either vey ignorant or just peddling obvoius lies. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 7:25pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
Kennydoc: 1. If for whatever reason including fear of Fulani people including tribalism and bigotry you don't feel like giving or your donating your land for any FG program, you are free to say no and refuse to give land because it's voluntary, now please tell me, what is driving you crazy about Fulani people? 2. Is FG suing your governors for not donating land and refusing to participate? 3. s the FG sending the army to your states to force your governors to take your land and ship Fulani people from the north to settle on your land? If your answer is not, then why are you people going berserk? Why are you shouting and disturbing the rest f Nigeria all over the place? Why is it that only you people make a bid deal over everything in Nigeria? What is your damn problem? |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by asamaigho(m): 7:26pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: go to laduga in kaduna state where 30,000 hectares of land was takrn for simioar purpose and see if all this rawbish you are talking about still holds ..... we say no to ruga. cattlerearing is a private business, so interested investors should build or rent a ranch. period. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by asamaigho(m): 7:28pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: you are extreme empty, spewing trash with falsehood. why are u pained? we dont want ruga u can go and die. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 7:29pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
asamaigho: You mean it is a lie because the program is not voluntary the the FG is sending the army to take over your land or they took your land already and have settled Fulani people on your land? You people are dangerously ignorant, you make drama like drama queens over nothing just to play the usual victim mentality routine. Your people and delusions and paranoia are like sisters and brothers.. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 7:30pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
[s] asamaigho:[/s] Say something sane and intelligent and I'll engage you, until then, please keep your ignorant and unintelligent nonsense to yourself.. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 7:31pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
[s] asamaigho:[/s] Your village governor have said no because it is voluntary which he is entitled to, case closed. Stop barking. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by favour32(m): 7:36pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
Whatever anybody says about the positive nature RUGA is wasting his or her time. We are sitting on a keg of gun powder with the suspended RUGA policy to be visited later. Do we have advance climes like Europe and the USA? How do they handle their cattle business? Do they have herdsmen? Why can't we learn from them? Or certain group agenda is far from what we see? |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 7:40pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
Spell V-O-L-U-N-T-A-R-Y. Why are you people not listening to your SE governor and chairman of NLTP. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by asamaigho(m): 7:41pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: you are even more myopic than i thought. i shouldnt have .......... |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 7:43pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
asamaigho: .....but you are not myopic because the FG have taken your land and shipped Northerners to occupy your land because your governors said no.. Clueless paranoid jokers and drama queens.. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Sterope(f): 8:04pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
People get sentimental and that affects their decisions. In this case, I hope both parties don't ended up regretting this. It is a simple case of governors sitting down with Miyetti Allah to find practical ways of handling future conflict. It would even make identifying rogue herdsmen and cattle rustlers easier to find and prosecute ( well, only if our intelligence agencies doing their due diligence). deomelo: |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Sterope(f): 8:05pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
You may find this doubtful but some organisations of the advanced climes are very much interested in Ruga. Go figure favour32: |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by bluke(m): 8:15pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: man shdnt live on bread alone keep your development in the north |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Kennydoc(m): 8:19pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: Deomelo, Fulanis can no longer peacefully co-habit with any ethnic group in the Southern part of Nigeria. Ever before 2015 when Fulani herdsmen became the 4th most deadly terrorist group in the world up till this time that they're probably the most deadly group, Nigerians in most states of the federation haven't had peace because of herdsmen. No ethnic group wants to co-habit with them. Moreover, these guys go about destroying the crops and means of livelihood of farmers all over the nation because their cattle have to graze. Why can't they take their cattle to graze only in uncultivated lands? Why deliberately enter farmlands and destroy crops? The people of Anioma in Delta State can no longer do their farming in peace simply cos the Fulani herdsmen use their cattle to destroy crops, and go ahead and kill anybody that dares to challenge them. They are now even involved in kidnapping for ransom and raping women. The same thing is happening in many states of the federation. Is it fair? I thank God the agitation isn't only coming from the South East, otherwise you guys would have called us bigots and haters of the North. The agitation is from the whole South plus Middle Belt. Let's see how the government will get around it. Rather than forcing it on the rest of the country, the country will divide. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by BlackBaron: 8:37pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
A lot of things has to be taken into context. You can't extrapolate data and impose same concepts practiced elsewhere. Nigeria is already a relatively compact fit for a population of 200 million. We need not just RUGA but also population control as pop. increases would mean more land for people to live in. Nomadic lifestyle should get with the trend and start modernising. I think the government should have started research on ranching many moons ago. I am trying to find a comprehensive report of a team on Nigerian ranches and what lessons were learnt. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 8:49pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
bluke: Keep your damn land, they didn't beg you for land and they are not forcing you to give up your land so stop barking on the internet like bingo like drama queens.. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Obi1kenobi(m): 8:59pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: It's amusing watching the utter confidence you have in your naivety. You have watched every corner of the North burn under the terror waged by Fulani bandits and cattle-rustling herdsmen which has even spread its tentacles as far as your own homeland (which you know how to defend very well in sparring over inconsequential matters with Igbos - your favorite figures of hate). But your parochial instincts seem to suddenly abandon you when talking about an insidious threat to the peace and security and livelihood of your people. Let me break a few things down for you about why this situation has drawn the hysteria it has: 1) Clearly, there is a communication gap, not only between the administration and the constituents whose interests they are supposed to serve, but there is a communication gap within the administration itself. Clearly, the likes of Osinbajo were not on the same wavelength as the Presidency (which Osinbajo is a part of) on this issue and there is reason to believe the NLTP overseen by Osinbajo is distinct from the Ruga initiative. 2) If all those who represent the best interest of your people (royal fathers, elders of sociocultural groups, politicians like OBJ, rights activists like Falana and Soyinka) are rejecting something as not being in the best interests of your people, perhaps sit your arse down and listen and try to understand the nuances of the situation and take caution. Many of them are more informed than your pretensions here. 3) To insinuate that this program is somewhat divorced from parochial considerations is plain daft. Logic should tell you that if those crying teh most about its suspension and issuing ultimatums and making threats are all from one part of the country, then it is quite obvious who it is designed to favor. 4) And related with (3) above, if the entire leadership of the South and much of the Middle Belt and NE states like Taraba are united in their opposition to a program they see as creeping annexation by a vicious group of marauding troublemakers, again, perhaps you should err or the side of caution. It's hard to understand what kind of efulefu says the shiit you do after witnessing a community terrorize the country with the tacit collusion of an impotent administration and its service chiefs and it doesn't give you the slightest pause when the same administration come up with schemes advocating distribution of lands across the country to those same marauders. What....you think all the hundreds of thousands to millions of herdsmen would be contained in some Ruga settlement in Sokoto? 1 Like |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by elvisco10(m): 9:00pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
According to data from the US Department of agriculture, almost 30 percent of all land in the United States is used as grazing land, mostly for cows. because of animal nd private bezx nw u calling US.oga wat of light nd good water or Road.infrastures .y u nor call US to compare...make God blind d supporters of dese |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:03pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
Kennydoc:[/s] Confine our tribalism and bigotry and intolerance to yourself. There Hausa Fulani people all over Nigeria leaving and co existing peacefully. Yes, we have issues with goat headers,but they are not all Fulani and Fulani people in general are law abiding citizens like Atiku the Fulani man that you people follow follow and voted for and last time I checked, Atiku own over 2,000 cows. So, stop with the ignorance and generalization and the only people in Nigeria that are not co existing peacefully with other Nigerians are you people and this issue is another great example. It's crazy how you people once again managed to shout, wail and make needless noise over something a non issue, only you people as usual. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Obi1kenobi(m): 9:06pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: Considering you've barked more on this thread than everyone else, you might need to take your own advise. We don't want to surrender our ancestral lands to entitled, murderous marauders who cause violent conflict everywhere they find themselves. And nobody is forcing us as you have charitably said. Problem solved. Why are you spending all this time on this thread barking and displaying your gullibility and naivety in defense of a program whose advocates have shown little transparency or clarity in communicating its intent and execution? 2 Likes |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Nobody: 9:07pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo:STFU! I'm a stunt Buhari loyalist but on this one I am standing against him. His islamization agenda has failed and will never be tolerated in the SW. We will reject and defend our land with everything we've got. Worst case, everybody parts ways. You must a big fo.ol for trying to twist the original narration and intention. Ask yourself this questions; 1. If RUGA isn't meant to 'recolonize' the south why are northerners especially the fulanis threatening the south for rejecting it? 2. If 12 northern states already signed up for RUGA, why was it then cancelled? It's just because it was only meant for takeover of Southern Regions. RUGA would have increased the population of the Fulani in the South. With the new population, electoral victory would be decided by mainly the Fulani. With the RUGA communities, Emirates would dot the South. With the RUGA settlements, the Fulani Militia would have military advantage over their poor victims. With indigenous Southern RUGA-made citizens, political positions in the South would start going to the Fulani. There would be the possibility of Fulani governors in East, Fulani Senators from the West, Fulani Rep members from SS. Use your head or keep your stupid mouth shut forever. #SayNoToRugaInTheSouth
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Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by collinsfhk(m): 9:08pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: Keep deceiving yourself. Trust this present govt at ur own peril |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:16pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
Obi1kenobi: 1. NLTP or RUGA is not mandatory and they haven't forced and wont force any of your states to join and your governors have refused to and we are yet to see the army trooping to your towns and villages to force your governors to give up land for anybody for any reason. 2. You complained about headsmen and their violence and the government came up with NLTP/RUGA to confine then to a physical location to prevent clashes and prevent them from roaming around your towns and villages, but you said no so you have no moral rights to say anything about anything. You people are nothing but raging hypocrites. 3. Right now, the governors from the rejecting states are losing money because herders are grazing free of charge on your land and they can not do anything about it and to even show how dumb and stupid these governors are, the cattle owners return the same cows to your states to slaughter and consume and ship the money back to where they came from tax-free all off the same land you are boasting that you won't donate when in fact you've donated the land already free of charge to the same herders for grazing. 4. Your rubbish noise, bigoted and hypocritical wolf in the dark drama doesn't move me, save your noise for your fellow bigots and intolerant crowd. There's nothing in Nigeria you paranoid and intolerant people don't turn into hatred, tribalism and bigotry. Guess what, other states are moving ahead with the program and heaven is not falling so keep shouting and killing yourselves with your manufactured drama and outrage, that's your problem. 5. When the program grow and turned into a huge money making industrial complex, den go begin shout marginalization. You people are too hateful and self destructive for tour own good. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:18pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
[s] collinsfhk:[/s] Don't get mad because I don't share your paranoid, ignorant, bigoted and hateful sentiments, keep it to yourself. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Onetimentertain: 9:18pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
Blue3k2:so of all the things to emulate from the US, cattle grazing happens to be top priority? it's no wonder we are where we are today!!!!!! my country my country, my heart bleeds for u |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:20pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
JSnw: lmao....ipob claiming Buhari loyalist with his fake double ID post. So, your first post on NL is bigotry and hatred? I feel so honored. Comedians.. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Nobody: 9:23pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo:Whatever! The whole south has spoken with one voice and we will continue to unite against your marauding fulani jihadists. #SayNoToRugaInTheSouth |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by Ostrogoth(m): 9:23pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
deomelo: If you are not Fulani nor a Fulani sympathizer, please feel free to donate your father's property to the Ruga cause that is if he has any, and you can even throw in your female family members into the bargain (they are a masochistic tribe it seems, which is why they usually cut their raped victim's limbs). As for the rest of we southerners, we are sedentary peoples who use our available lands for agriculture of the vegetable type for the most part, and some of us even breed cows. To the best of my knowledge, in the time of our fathers, there were hefty fines imposed on those whose cows transgress on another man's lands, yet they fed on cows long before the fulanis ever came to Nigeria. The yorubas say the bird must have fed on something before maize came, so if there is no Fulani beef, I believe we people of the south can very well take care of ourselves. You mentioned the rivers state governor spewing trash, but I'll have you know that that's your own opinion, just as my disgust for buhari, his cabal and everything his government stands for is my opinion so far as his victory at the polls mirrors the majority's choice! The majority may be primitive, but they are still the majority, just like brexit may not be good for Britain, but they want out. So learn to manage your pain lest it consumes you. And yes, he speaks with the voice of the majority of we southerners. And in case you are Fulani or a slave of the fulanis, pls note that their day of reckoning is getting near by the minute; less conflict than the Fulani issue has led to grievous wars before and I believe the partition of Sudan to northern and southern can serve as a good example of what is possible. If the south rises to war, there is already a common enemy: the fulanis and their Hausa sympathisers! The south has the resources to trade for weapons, even the middle belt will join the south as they themselves have suffered from the Fulani. It will be bloody and terrible which is why we southerners who are majorly educated hate war and see it as a last resort while the northerners see it as a campaign for glory/victory. The fulanis are just the perfect excuse for the dissolution of Nigeria. Don't forget the recent Hausa massacre in ile-ife! #the south remembers #payday winter is coming |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:28pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
1. If RUGA isn't meant to 'recolonize' the south why are northerners especially the fulanis threatening the south for rejecting it? This joker can not read and comprehend, the fact that some states are doing RUGA while others are not means it is voluntary, but you people are too ignorant and you can not read and comprehend to grasp anything, you are like 2 year old children. You people can not think and reason like adults and normal human beings, you let bigotry, intolerance, paranoia and hatred think and take over your sense. What a bunch of lost and bitter generation. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:30pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
[s] Ostrogoth:[/s] Keep and eat your dam land, we don't want your hateful and bigoted land. And you people wonder why serious investors, businesses and multi nationals don't venture into your backward, hostile, hateful and bigoted land.. They know your profile.. |
Re: Why We Need 20% Of Nigeria For Grazing By Nonso Obikili by deomelo: 9:31pm On Jul 07, 2019 |
[s] JSnw:[/s] *Sends post inside shalanga..* NEXT>>>>>>> |
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