madridsta007:


Lol.

Comprehension appears to be more serious than I assumed it was. No wonder IELTS keeps on insisting that Nigerians take its exams.

Again: If Saul did what he did then, now, it would be described as terrorism, extremism.

If you do not understand this very simple comparison, that’s not my problem.

Hipsofagoddess:


Your statement of no wonder IELTS... is cliche, find something else. Yes, we would describe it as extremism like those ignorant people promised virgins. But do you really want to compare it with someone that still commits adultery (since you guys said he didn't rape)?

Sometimes, I wonder how you guys reason. Comparing two different things and seeing similarities. I don't even have the strength to write too much but please, use someone other than Paul.

panpan:
What is BlackAxe?

JBoss25:
A cult group

madridsta007:


Saul was persecuting Christians and claimed he had the Jewish law backing him.

The suicide bombers who killed hundreds of Christians on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka, were persecuting Christians. They will also claim that they had the (Sunni Islamist creed) law backing them.

If Saul was alive today, doing what he did, we will refer to him, quite rightly, as a terrorist or an extremist.
Yes, these words may sound "troubling" to you but, by definition, he would be referred to as a terrorist or an extremist. Saul if he were alive today, would have happily blown up a plane filled with Christians, by virtue of what he did then. What will he be called when he does that? A terrorist.

You see, there is nothing happening today that hasn't happened in history. Different characters, different nomenclature, but essentially the same.
Saul was a lawyer and not a terrorist!

madridsta007:


Saul was persecuting Christians and claimed he had the Jewish law backing him.

The suicide bombers who killed hundreds of Christians on Easter Sunday in Sri Lanka, were persecuting Christians. They will also claim that they had the (Sunni Islamist creed) law backing them.

If Saul was alive today, doing what he did, we will refer to him, quite rightly, as a terrorist or an extremist.
Yes, these words may sound "troubling" to you but, by definition, he would be referred to as a terrorist or an extremist. Saul if he were alive today, would have happily blown up a plane filled with Christians, by virtue of what he did then. What will he be called when he does that? A terrorist.

You see, there is nothing happening today that hasn't happened in history. Different characters, different nomenclature, but essentially the same.
Saul was a lawyer and not a terrorist!

Hipsofagoddess:


Your statement of no wonder IELTS... is cliche, find something else. Yes, we would describe it as extremism like those ignorant people promised virgins. But do you really want to compare it with someone that still commits adultery (since you guys said he didn't rape)?

Sometimes, I wonder how you guys reason. Comparing two different things and seeing similarities. I don't even have the strength to write too much but please, use someone other than Paul.

lexy2014:


What of Paul in d Bible that was a murderer? Did his past negate his ministry?

perousd:

Saul was a Lawyer and not a terrorist. He was acting under the Laws of the land! With the open backing of the government! Terrorism is not backed by the laws of any land not even In the Arab Nations.No government will openly support Terrorism!

madridsta007:


LOL. I see your concern or worry is the alleged rape issue.

That wasn’t what this thread was about, I think. It was about someone being a former cultist who is now preaching/ is a “Pastor”.
I like to stick to the topic in a thread. Apologies— it appears we are responding to two different things

CanadaOrBust:


Can’t u see u r brainwashed? Did the ways of God tell u not to use your common sense? Here is what u said verbatim: “He said he has NEVER RAPED. Simple.“ Can’t u see how naive that sounds? You go by a person’s past history and what intimate people are saying not what he said.

Exodora:




Never would have mentioned it if not that more research is been dug about him.
Now you belief it because there are back up and he had just admitted it because of the back ups.
Had there been no back up he would still denied every thing .
You expect a back up maybe with a phone of incident that took place for 17 old now as if everybody was used to the system then .
Or were you expecting a picture of the incident as if the camera man is a fool to picture it.
One stupid boy that calls himself vampire who has been terrorise my place now whose siblings are all abroad with there father just because of his stupidity he was sent back . while he was in primary six he raped a girl and since then the said girl is worst than an Olosho , tomorrow if he mistake find himself close to firm his sins won't find him.
Say no to evil no matter any kind of evil that it is , more is yet to be dig about him. This is his first confession my prayer for him is that as he come in open may God's grace find him cause these are people we up to on our daily basis as role model .

MarieSucre:


What do you mean he raped in ignorance and cultism??

Was he not am adult when joined the cult? How does one not know at that age that rape is wrong?

Even as a little child I knew that stealing was wrong. Years later, I cannot come and be justifying any wrong acts by saying, I stole in ignorance and youth.

Haba! Y'all would look for any excuse to justify wring things.

madridsta007:


Lol. I normally stay away from speaking to overly emotional or emotional people. Clearly, you are overly emotional.

I was merely writing (or will I say preaching) about God’s saving grace— ex cultist, ex-prostitute, ex-robber, etc. Because that was what the article was about.
I want to remain on this topic. I’m not a fan of derailing topics.

MrPRevailer:


But you believe him when he said he was in cult. But when he say he didn't rape you don't believe. Please stay there jare.

Let me tell you, a great man is faced with many adversaries even those close to him can become his worst enemies. Anyone can be a victim of this.
I'm not on his side. I'm not supporting anyone just reasoning rationally

madridsta007:


LOL. I see your concern or worry is the alleged rape issue.

That wasn’t what this thread was about, I think. It was about someone being a former cultist who is now preaching/ is a “Pastor”.
I like to stick to the topic in a thread. Apologies— it appears we are responding to two different things

Hipsofagoddess:


You were looking at the cultism part, I was considering the total package. We are not talking of any pastor that turned from cultism to Christianity. We are talking about Fatoyinbo.

madridsta007:


Fair enough point.

But still missing my point. Which I felt was simple. That anyone, backed by law or not, who replicated what Saul did in today’s world will be rightly regarded as a terrorist. Keyword, if you read your Bible well, “he was persecuting Christians”

“Who are you, Lord?" Saul asked. "I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting," he replied.

Anyone who does such murderous persecution today will be regarded as an extremist. Not sure how this is hard to understand.

tomju:
No. It did not. However, people are different. Cultist and rape are synonymous. The traits may linger! Just saying.

MrPRevailer:


If he did it, it won't be hard to confess to such a crime because he did it in ignorance.

He said he has NEVER RAPED. Simple.

perousd:

Saul was a Lawyer and not a terrorist. He was acting under the Laws of the land! With the open backing of the government! Terrorism is not backed by the laws of any land not even In the Arab Nations.No government will openly support Terrorism!

cuteboy2:


But four separate members of his church have independently accused him of raping them. So who are you going to believe?

Besides, as a cult chief it a given that you must rape as a right of passage, and thereafter. So he is lying by saying he has "never raped".

In any case, why does he go underground everytime a new victim surfaces?

CanadaOrBust:


Exactly. No one said: : “He said he was in a cult. Simple.“ The story was already circulating. Inquiries were made. His history was looked at. People collaborated the story. Accept that your statement was naive. People lie all the time.

Exodora:




Never would have mentioned it if not that more research is been dug about him.
Now you belief it because there are back up and he had just admitted it because of the back ups.
Had there been no back up he would still denied every thing .
You expect a back up maybe with a phone of incident that took place for 17 old now as if everybody was used to the system then .
Or were you expecting a picture of the incident as if the camera man is a fool to picture it.
One stupid boy that calls himself vampire who has been terrorise my place now whose siblings are all abroad with there father just because of his stupidity he was sent back . while he was in primary six he raped a girl and since then the said girl is worst than an Olosho , tomorrow if he mistake find himself close to firm his sins won't find him.
Say no to evil no matter any kind of evil that it is , more is yet to be dig about him. This is his first confession my prayer for him is that as he come in open may God's grace find him cause these are people we up to on our daily basis as role model .

Cioccolata:
Cult members are known for raping women.

lexy2014:


Where & when was d story already circulating? Isn't it d guy himself that is saying he was a cultist?

Hedonini:


Stop being stupid with this everyone has a past nonsense. If you commit a crime, you should pay for it. Only God forgives. The law does not.

If he raped, maimed, or even killed anyone as a cultist, has he paid the price? Has he been arrested, tried in court and jailed for committing these CRIMES? If not, then you must be mad to wave off these repugnant crimes with the irritating "everyone has a crime" talk.

CanadaOrBust:


Use your head. There were of course rumors he was in a cult. Or u think he was in the cult by himself?

lexy2014:

Where & when was d story already circulating? Isn't it d guy himself that is saying he was a cultist?

FAMILYJA:
So this man na everything? Rapist na him. Cultist na him. I'm not judging though. If has truly found Christ, then he is saved. Old things have passed away and behold all things become new.

lexy2014:


U still haven't d questions I asked since u are using ur head:

lexy2014:


He said he was a cultist. Did he say he was a rapist?