rhektor:


Jebusites in the Bible is not the same as the ijebu of present day Nigeria

Who are those Jebusite people in present day world, if you have any idea? I'm just curious...

rhektor:


Jebusites in the Bible is not the same as the ijebu of present day Nigeria

It may look awkward to mind but the Jebus of Yoruba land are actually the Jebusite, in the same way other Yoruba towns are. I infer this because I have knowledge of the Semitic scroll that is being transliterated to English before the actual English's proposed meaning.

Interestingly, this transliteration to English and meaning have cognate meaning in Yoruba after due review of the meaning in ypruna language. Despite the truth that Yoruba have scant of Kemet's language, Arabic's in her language, the classical Hebrew is Yoruba language. And the language hasn't even changed it dialectal grammatical standard.

rhektor:


Jebusites in the Bible is not the same as the ijebu of present day Nigeria

who dey talk.
ijebu igbo and ijebu ode
jebus of forest and jebus of the plain.

bluke:


who dey talk.
ijebu igbo and ijebu ode
jebus of forest and jebus of the plain.

So Òde means plain?

geosegun:


Who are those Jebusite people in present day world, if you have any idea? I'm just curious...

You should have asked yourself how Jebusites got to present day Nigeria. Do we have their kinsmen around in any other close by tribe?

Olu317:


It may look awkward to mind but the Jebus of Yoruba land are actually the Jebusite, in the same way other Yoruba towns are. I infer this because I have knowledge of the Semitic scroll that is being transliterated to English before the actual English's proposed meaning.

Interestingly, this transliteration to English and meaning have cognate meaning in Yoruba after due review of the meaning in ypruna language. Despite the truth that Yoruba have scant of Kemet's language, Arabic's in her language, the classical Hebrew is Yoruba language. And the language hasn't even changed it dialectal grammatical standard.

This can not be proven with whatever papyrus or scroll you may have as there are no similarly in their cultures. Words might be written the same way but a critical look into their root will tell you they aren't one and the same. Thank you for your time

rhektor:


This can not be proven with whatever papyrus or scroll you may have as there are no similarly in their cultures. Words might be written the same way but a critical look into their root will tell you they aren't one and the same. Thank you for your time

Since you ‘imagined' that some words may actually be seen as false or accidentall cognate, then my questions to you care these:

1. Can you read paleo Hebrew script?

.2. Can you translate the reading?

3. Do you know the transliteration through Aramaic,Greek, Latin, English etc ,of the scroll does not fit properly to the classic Hebrew meaning?

4.Do you know the Biblical Hebrew account were interpreted through patterns of comparison with Middle East Semitic language?

5. Do you know the speakers of the Semitic writing in the original Hebrew Book are the Yoruba's?

6. אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה
The above were found to be the first of three responses given to Moses when he asks for God's name in the Book of Exodus 3:14. The King James Version of the Bible translates the Hebrew as "I Am that I Am" and uses it as a proper name for God......

But do you these meaning is actually different from the interpretation given to it?

If you are in doubt, Kindly verify my statement through thorough studying of the early Hebrew letters/alphabets and her meaning.



Cheers

Rossikk:
That does NOT necessarily mean that references to 'Igbo' in Yoruba ALWAYS denote the bush. Why would place-names be named 'the bush' anyway? Who does that? They could instead, infer some historical connection to the Igbo people or ethnic group. That sounds more plausible in my view.

There are places in Germanic Europe named after fords
Erfurt, Frankfurt, Stamford etc

So what is so absurd about naming a place after forests/vegetation, in a region full of forests?

Even when you look at the history of the towns with "igbo" in their names, they are said to have been forest areas cleared for settlement

iSlayer:
I strongly believe that in a time before history as we know it, the now Igbo people and Yoruba and possibly further west up to Akan in now Ghana were one giant race.

Yes this is true and not difficult to see but let's not distort history while we are at this.
"igbo" names in Yoruba towns have nothing to do with igbo (ibo)

Frankdoz3:
you can twist history, Ooni of ife, the Paramount ruler of ife kingdom made it clear Igbo founded ile-ife, how come your saying otherwise! Are now more historic than Ooni?

Ooni of Ife never said Igbo people largely found in present day south east Nigeria founded Ile-Ife. What he said was that Yorubas and Igbos have ancestral ties and that Igbos once lived in Ile Ife before migrating to present day south east Nigeria.

seunmsg:


Ooni of Ife never said Igbo people largely found in present day south east Nigeria founded Ile-Ife. What he said was that Yorubas and Igbos have ancestral ties and that Igbos once lived in Ile Ife before migrating to present day south east Nigeria.

Whatever Ooni meant doesn't reflect the relationship between ibo and Yoruba's history. This is because Ancestral ties, is pertaining to, derived from, or possessed by, an ancestor or ancestors

And invariably ,the statemen credited to Ooni , simply means Yoruba and Ibo ancestor , descended, whether on the father's or mother's side, at any distance of time; a progenitor; a forefather.

My question to you are:

1 do you actually believe this statement of same progenitor or ancestor of Yoruba and Ibo?

2. Who was the same ancestor of both the yoruba and Ibo that once lived in IleIfe?

Olu317:


Since you ‘imagined' that some words may actually be seen as false or accidentall cognate, then my questions to you care these:

1. Can you read paleo Hebrew script?

.2. Can you translate the reading?

3. Do you know the transliteration through Aramaic,Greek, Latin, English etc ,of the scroll does not fit properly to the classic Hebrew meaning?

4.Do you know the Biblical Hebrew account were interpreted through patterns of comparison with Middle East Semitic language?

5. Do you know the speakers of the Semitic writing in the original Hebrew Book are the Yoruba's?

6. אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה
The above were found to be the first of three responses given to Moses when he asks for God's name in the Book of Exodus 3:14. The King James Version of the Bible translates the Hebrew as "I Am that I Am" and uses it as a proper name for God......

But do you these meaning is actually different from the interpretation given to it?

If you are in doubt, Kindly verify my statement through thorough studying of the early Hebrew letters/alphabets and her meaning.



Cheers

Bro, you've actually proved nothing here as nothing could be deduced from this statement

rhektor:


So Òde means plain?

what software gives you the accent on the 'ode'

rhektor:


Bro, you've actually proved nothing here as nothing could be deduced from this statement

I have no intention to proof anything to you because I don't know it all! Even if I have 1% knowledge of what I know,then you need clearly inform us that you can handle all the questions I posted in my last post before this. And from there ,we can share knowledge.

Ondo and Ekiti people aren’t far removed from Igbos at all. It’s no wonder Ondo people are lighter-skinned and better-looking than mainline Yorubas. Not to mention a few other shared traits across them and us.

bluke:



what software gives you the accent on the 'ode'

SwiftKey (Yorùbá)

Probz:
Ondo and Ekiti people aren’t far removed from Igbos at all. It’s no wonder Ondo people are lighter-skinned and better-looking than mainline Yorubas. Not to mention a few other shared traits across them and us.

really?
so Edo state is part of ibo land too?

Frankdoz3:
you can twist history, Ooni of ife, the Paramount ruler of ife kingdom made it clear Igbo founded ile-ife, how come your saying otherwise! Are now more historic than Ooni?

wow!
so you choose to believe that whole-heartedly.
this Same ooni claimed in one video I watched via BBC Africa that Christianity and Islam are from ile-ife. He further argued that the word "church" was derived from a Yoruba deity "Ogun osooosi", and he seemed to be very confident about this assertion.
His desperate efforts to make southern Nigerians from different socio-culturàl backgrounds think they stem from a single ancestry has become counter productive and obviously flawed.
I mean no disregard, but u can't take this man's sentimental views as valid historical fact, except u are a dunce ursef

UltraSphinx:
really?
so Edo state is part of ibo land too?

Didn’t say that but it’s common knowledge that Ondo and Ekiti people are a very different breed of Yoruba than mainstream Yorubas. Several of their cultural and cuisine features point eastwards to say the least. At least compared to the more westerly Yoruba clans.

Probz:


Didn’t say that but it’s common knowledge that Ondo and Ekiti people are a very different breed of Yoruba than mainstream Yorubas. Several of their cultural and cuisine features point eastwards to say the least. At least compared to the more westerly Yoruba clans.

this is a result of prolonged physical and social interaction with other ethnicities as they are located on the extreme ends of Yoruba land.

their way of life definitely reflects that. same can be said of kwara yorubas bordering Niger state (Nupes), Kogi Yorubas (in a peculiar potpourri of another level), badagry in Lagos etc
but these factors doesn't nullify their identity in anyway

UltraSphinx:

this is a result of prolonged physical and social interaction with other ethnicities as they are located on the extreme ends of Yoruba land.

their way of life definitely reflects that. same can be said of kwara yorubas bordering Niger state (Nupes), Kogi Yorubas (in a peculiar potpourri of another level), badagry in Lagos etc
but these factors doesn't nullify their identity in anyway

It’s only those with a third eye that’ll understand the significance of those differences.

Probz:
Ondo and Ekiti people aren’t far removed from Igbos at all. It’s no wonder Ondo people are lighter-skinned and better-looking than mainline Yorubas. Not to mention a few other shared traits across them and us.

So light skin makes people better looking? FOH with your small brain

2mch:

So light skin makes people better looking? FOH with your small brain

Did I actually say that?

I was just listing a random pair of features. The two don’t go hand-in-hand and I didn’t even imply that.

Probz:


It’s only those with a third eye that’ll understand the significance of those differences.

Tribal chauvinists perhaps

Probz:


Didn’t say that but it’s common knowledge that Ondo and Ekiti people are a very different breed of Yoruba than mainstream Yorubas. Several of their cultural and cuisine features point eastwards to say the least. At least compared to the more westerly Yoruba clans.

A clown at the highest order,that is who you are for saying, there are mainstream Yoruba and others are not. What cuisine do the Eastern Yoruba eat that's different from the western Yoruba people ? You being an Ibo man aren't different from one other Yoruba Guy on this platform who seemingly think as you people try to merge Ibo people with Yoruba's . But ,I want to plainly infer that, THE difference between LIGHTSKIN YORUBA anywhere In the deep Savannah or the Plateau is that they are NOT HAIRY LIKE THE LIGHTSKIN IBOS. .....Period

Probz:


Didn’t say that but it’s common knowledge that Ondo and Ekiti people are a very different breed of Yoruba than mainstream Yorubas. Several of their cultural and cuisine features point eastwards to say the least. At least compared to the more westerly Yoruba clans.

??

Quiz:
Between Igbos & Fulanis, who migrates more into other peoples land & tends to expand & establish territory more dan natives?

Rossikk:
That does NOT necessarily mean that references to 'Igbo' in Yoruba ALWAYS denote the bush. Why would place-names be named 'the bush' anyway? Who does that? They could instead, infer some historical connection to the Igbo people or ethnic group. That sounds more plausible in my view.

LOL. Bunkum.

It's not just Bush. It also means forest.

Probz:


Didn’t say that but it’s common knowledge that Ondo and Ekiti people are a very different breed of Yoruba than mainstream Yorubas. [b]Several of their cultural and cuisine features [/b]point eastwards to say the least. At least compared to the more westerly Yoruba clans.

I'm an Ekiti man. Kindly tell me a few óf these things, please.