forgiveness:


Una don start oooo. No super eagles controls the ball like Chukwueze.

Make I understand you well. Explain yourself.

I mean long aerial balls. When you send them to Chukwueze his control is superb. The ball sticks to his feet. I wonder how he developed such professional first touch at such a young age. Ighalo, Musa etc often have poor first touches. I have not even seen Mikel or Ndidi control the ball the way Chukwueze does. I observed this long ago.

After seeing that picture of offside VAR overlooked, i wonder how some people still argued that the SA player was not offside
The ref was too lazy to go check the VAR monitor and the VAR room refused to show the position of the players as at the time the ball was kicked by Tau
Thank you OP for uploading that pic which shows VAR can be used to defraud teams irrespective of protests.
I remember one of our players pleading with the ref to go take a look at the VAR monitor but the dumb ref refused and gave the goal.
VAR must be neutral by showing all angles to the goal instead of focusing on the latter part.

breezy147:


I mean long aerial balls. When you send them to Chukwueze his control is superb. The ball sticks to his feet. I wonder how he developed such professional first touch at such a young age. Ighalo, Musa etc often have poor first touches. I have not even seen Mikel or Ndidi control the ball the way Chukwueze does. I observed this long ago.

You should see Iwobi and Musa control long balls first na.

TheSuperNerd:



The fact that you spilled your inner thoughts hidden in your mind for so long shows how SUPER I am. Super at making you spill nonsense... Hahahahahahaa... A thread I have been absent from for over half a year is what I take as my trophy?

Do you see the nonsense dropping from your fingers in a bid to sound intelligent? Loolll... You are just feeling battered now... Yara Yara, prepare the lobotomy room for Oasis.... And oh put him on some anti-Nacho capsules too..

Stale word..... Save for a new Dictionary - Nerd.

By the way, save yourself some Stress, I ain't reading the Gibberish.

LMAO!

Mickael2:


He did not move towards the ball na. That guy that was offside was the eventual goalscorer. He was standing close to the far post, he just ran forward for the knockdown, it was another guy who was not offside that contested with Ighalo and he unfortunately knocked it backwards. That guy didn't move towards the ball

my guy, the player was in the box for the sole purpose of getting on the end of the set piece and to you he wasn't interfering with play? na wa o.
so does this mean that until the ball reaches your leg you are not interfering with play and cannot be called offside?

What is the reason the linesman's flag was ignored by the ref when he flagged the offside at least 2/3 seconds before the ball hit Ighalo? I like a debate but i don tire so no more from me on the matter. I think we have all shared our views well enough for the understanding by either school of thought. That we continue disagree cannot be helped.

wayodude:


The relevance of the picture i uploaded is this. When the free kick was taken there was an active south african player in an offside position. This violation should have been penalised immediately and thats why the linesman flagged it. The play was allowed to develop further and the ball came off Ighalo before it was headed in. My point is that the play should not have been allowed to develop at all. This is the correct application of the offside rule.

Spot on.

Oasis007:




Stale word..... Save for a new Dictionary..... Nerd.

By the way, save yourself some Stress, I ain't reading the Gibberish.

LMAO!

Sorry I make you feel inferior Oasis.... It is not my fault. Really it is not. Just that when you stand before me, you cannot help but spill nonsense.... That is how Super I am. Ndo u hear... Pele my man.

forgiveness:


Going by that snapshot, na confirm offside.

Why did they deliberately refuse to show that angel?

No its not. Events overruled the snapshot position when the ball bounced off Ighalo. Ighalo literally passed the ball to the Southie player who scored.

Mickael2:


He did not move towards the ball na. That guy that was offside was the eventual goalscorer. He was standing close to the far post, he just ran forward for the knockdown, it was another guy who was not offside that contested with Ighalo and he unfortunately knocked it backwards. That guy didn't move towards the ball

The moment the ball was kicked, he moved towards the ball and that should have been counted as offside.

It shouldn't have been after it landed on Ighalo's back.

wayodude:


my guy, the player was in the box for the sole purpose of getting on the end of the set piece and to you he wasn't interfering with play? na wa o.
so does this mean that until the ball reaches your leg you are not interfering with play and cannot be called offside?

What is the reason the linesman's flag was ignored by the ref when he flagged the offside at least 2/3 seconds before the ball hit Ighalo? I like a debate but i don tire so no more from me on the matter. I think we have all shared our views well enough for the understanding by either school of thought. That we continue disagree cannot be helped.

As a final word. For a set piece there are two sets of people, those who go to contest for the ball and those who wait for a flick on or a knockdown.
Now you may be in the box but your movement is away from the ball anticipating where the flick on would land then that means you were not interfering with the ball when the freekick was taken but your interference starts during the second sequence of events, that is when the flick on was made and you start moving towards where it will land.

The second set of people are the ones that actually go to flick the ball on. Those are the ones actively interfering with play.

Now back to the case study, the dude who was offside was in the box yes, but he respectfully told himself the truth and ran away from the ball towards the back post hoping he would no longer be offside during the second sequence. So in that case was he interfering with play? No.

breezy147:


No its not. Events overruled the snapshot position when the ball bounced off Ighalo. Ighalo literally passed the ball to the Southie player who scored.

Is this a new rule?

TheSuperNerd:


Sorry I make you feel inferior Oasis.... It is not my fault. Really it is not. Just that when you stand before me, you cannot help but spill nonsense.... That is how Super I am. Ndo u hear... Pele my man.

Nerd: (noun; nəːd) foolish or contemptible person who lacks social skills.

It's obvious, shouldn't be surprised..... keep it up Lad.

forgiveness:


The moment the ball was kicked, he moved towards the ball and that should have been counted as offside.

It shouldn't have been after it landed on Ighalo's back.

Sir, he moved towards the far post, even by this picture you can clearly see that he had already started running before the ball was kicked.

breezy147:


No its not. Events overruled the snapshot position when the ball bounced off Ighalo. Ighalo literally passed the ball to the Southie player who scored.

The moment the ball was played, he already challenge for the ball in an offside position. The other events can't overrule that fact.

breezy147:


No its not. Events overruled the snapshot position when the ball bounced off Ighalo. Ighalo literally passed the ball to the Southie player who scored.

Thank you. When someone plays a freekick you don't just flag any player who is in the box offside. As a matter if fact some players stand in an offside position deliberately when a freekick is taken then they move backwards hoping for a knockdown. This guy here moved towards the back post waiting for a flick on, he had no business with the freekick, I don't know why that is so hard to understand

forgiveness:


The moment the ball was played, he already challenge for the ball in an offside position. The other events can't overrule that fact.

How did he challenge for the ball kwanu? By running to the far post when the ball was close to penalty spot?

komekn:


I completely agree with your statement.

However considering the number of fanatical supporters candidates and the over the top accolades they are placing on him Chukwueze. Mirrors the same thing they did to KC.

Chukwueze and Musa were the joint MOTM for me but just as l had expected in my earlier predictions before the match. That we would this match by maverick wing play from Musa and Chukwueze. There was very intelligent play by Awaziem, who played within his limits. ( lack of pace) took no risks.

Chukwueze the maverick young player did the opposite, sometimes " he who dares wins " but not all the time.

He would be very wise not to let this get to his head. One game doesn't make a player. And consistency is birthed from several seasons of football not one. He is other tight path

So you are ABSOLUTELY right to give a word of caution.

We beat SA like I expected with intelligent and unpredictable wing play. But it was hard fought we lacked cohesion sometimes and played off the cuff. This left Ighalo with very little service. Which again was expected we were never going to run through the midfield and dominate.

We will have to strategise differently for the games ahead. There are still question marks with our Defence.

So bring on Algeria and like l said from.the beginning of the AFCON we are not the favourites but VERY SERIOUS CONTENDERS.

Coming from the number 1 hypocrite on this thread.

You have several times belittled Chukwueze's talents, labelled Osimhen a super flop and always had an unkind word for every promising Nigerian youngster not English born and you now wanna take the high horse of "caring for the lad"?

Chriskels is right about this: anyone still taking you seriously is really as hypocritical as you are.

Chuks' performance and Osimhen's rise are victories for we the true fans who believed in them and had kind words for them from the beginning not for you who changes words as a chameleon changes color....

Mickael2:


Sir, he moved towards the far post, even by this picture you can clearly see that he had already started running before the ball was kicked.

That's why it's offside. He ran into offside position before the ball was kicked.

Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
interfering with an opponent by:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

or
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.
A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).

In situations where:

a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence if it impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball; if the player moves into the way of an opponent and impedes the opponent's progress (e.g blocks the opponent) the offence should be penalised under Law 12
a player in an offisde position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence
an offence is committed against a player in an offside position who is already playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the offside offence is penalised as it has occurred before the foul challenge

Cc forgiveness wayodude

TheSuperNerd:
He was saying more than that. Nacho is still young. Not like he has finished his career. The hype Chukwueze gets today is not his fault... Same hype surrounded Nacho and for good reasons but setbacks happen in football. It is no new thing.

Chuks had his struggles too for a period when he was being benched but he bounced back.

All the best to the both of them

Mickael2:


Thank you. When someone plays a freekick you don't just flag any player who is in the box offside. As a matter if fact some players stand in an offside position deliberately when a freekick is taken then they move backwards hoping for a knockdown. This guy here moved towards the back post waiting for a flick on, he had no business with the freekick, I don't know why that is so hard to understand

Exactly my point. But he moved forward to challenge the ball. That na confirm offside.

forgiveness:


That's why it's offside. He ran into offside position before the ball was kicked.

No Sir, being in an offside position is not an offence. Kindly read through the offside rules I posted

Oasis007:






It's obvious, shouldn't be surprised..... keep it up Lad.

Well... Lots here can honestly can tell you I am the exact opposite of your dictionary definition. That is why I am called the Supernerd.... I defy lazy definitions. I am beyond definition. What a lazy attempt to salvage his inferior position.... Hahahahahaha

forgiveness:


Exactly my point. But he moved forward to challenge the ball. That na confirm offside.

He did not move forward to challenge for the ball. He moved forwards waiting for a flick on. Did you see him anywhere close to the ball or did he jump for the ball??

oloriooko:
After seeing that picture of offside VAR overlooked, i wonder how some people still argued that the SA player was not offside
The ref was too lazy to go check the VAR monitor and the VAR room refused to show the position of the players as at the time the ball was kicked by Tau

Thank you OP for uploading that pic which shows VAR can be used to defraud teams irrespective of protests.

I remember one of our players pleading with the ref to go take a look at the VAR monitor but the dumb ref refused and gave the goal.
VAR must be neutral by showing all angles to the goal instead of focusing on the latter part.

You are very wrong on the final assertion that the RSA player's goal was not offside. The fact that the final touch on the ball was made by the Eagle's player negates the offside act of the RSA player. An Eagle's player cannot claim an offside when his back pass to the goalkeeper is intercepted halfway by an RSA player.

However you could be correct VAR is a tool destined to destroy soccer. It is an oppressive and colonial tool which is designed to defraud teams with good prospects in a competition.

I think Senegal is having an easy route to final.

Uganda
Benin
now Tunisia or Madagascar.

Mickael2:
Offside offence

A player in an offside position at the moment the ball is played or touched* by a team-mate is only penalised on becoming involved in active play by:
interfering with play by playing or touching a ball passed or touched by a team-mate or
interfering with an opponent by:
preventing an opponent from playing or being able to play the ball by clearly obstructing the opponent’s line of vision or
challenging an opponent for the ball or
clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
*The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball should be used

or
gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar or an opponent
been deliberately saved by any opponent
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.
A ‘save’ is when a player stops, or attempts to stop, a ball which is going into or very close to the goal with any part of the body except the hands/arms (unless the goalkeeper within the penalty area).

In situations where:

a player moving from, or standing in, an offside position is in the way of an opponent and interferes with the movement of the opponent towards the ball this is an offside offence if it impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball; if the player moves into the way of an opponent and impedes the opponent's progress (e.g blocks the opponent) the offence should be penalised under Law 12
a player in an offisde position is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball and is fouled before playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the foul is penalised as it has occurred before the offside offence
an offence is committed against a player in an offside position who is already playing or attempting to play the ball, or challenging an opponent for the ball, the offside offence is penalised as it has occurred before the foul challenge

Cc forgiveness wayodude

Explain the bolded.

Mickael2:


He did not move forward to challenge for the ball. He moved forwards waiting for a flick on. Did you see him anywhere close to the ball or did he jump for the ball??

Well, you may be right.

forgiveness:


Explain the bolded.

I can't believe this

Is moving towards the ball with the intention of playing the ball? That SA player was moving towards the far post without any intention of playing the ball na. Haba, he was not the one that contested for the ball with Ighalo, he was not obstructing Ighalo and he did not have any intention of playing the ball rather he got involved in the second sequence of events which started from when his teammate contested with Ighalo and he sent the ball backwards to him.

Oasis007:






It's obvious, shouldn't be surprised..... keep it up Lad.

Also,


William "Bill" Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Ma, Jeff Bezos, Larry Page, Larry Ellison, Steven Ballmer are all nerds.... So I guess our kind of stupid is the best kind of stupid then... Coz Nerds rule the world. or you haven't heard of that truth? What do you think I have been doing for over six months? Lol.... Dude... It's okay. You just lack Sagacity.

Jarus:
I think Senegal is having an easy route to final.

Uganda
Benin
now Tunisia or Madagascar.

Those guys havny really bn tested, d only to team dey HV played in this tournament is Algeria and dey lost

Jarus:
I think Senegal is having an easy route to final.

Uganda
Benin
now Tunisia or Madagascar.

I wish there could be upsets. Madagascar defeating them and CIV beating Algeria.

Then we face Madagascar in the final.