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Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Why did God create male and female animals but saw female humans as an afterthought? 3 Likes
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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 5:35pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
LMFAO! |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by hakeem4(m): 5:42pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
No god created all animals male and female and he saw everything was pleasing in his eyes. He then created Adam from sand ![]() delishpot: ![]() Wow I actually didn’t think of it this way. 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 6:06pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
How did you know it was an after thought? Go back to Genesis 1 and you'll find out that it did not appear as an after thought until the second chapter where more details was given about the creative process. So the same may also apply to the other animals, if the details of their creative process were also revealed. Moreover even if female humans was an afterthought, man was also an afterthought, so it actually corresponds for man was the last creature that God made in the process of His creation In the beginning. And being the only creature of God that was an afterthought In the beginning, it distinguishes man from the other creatures, as the most pivotal and central creature to all that God made in the beginning. So no afterthought worries there except for the ignorants. ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by rekinomtla(m): 6:23pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
He didn't, some are just not bright when it comes to biblical exegesis. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by CAPSLOCKED: 6:25pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
AN ALL-KNOWING GOD DIDN'T KNOW THAT ADAM NEEDED A COMPANION, UNTIL ADAM HANDED IN THE REQUEST. SHAMEFUL THAT PEOPLE DON'T SEE HOW INACCURATE THE GOD THING IS. 16 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by MyVILLAGEpeople(m): 6:51pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Anyways creating woman wasn't God original plan, If you read the Bible very well. God created the woman because of man. Husband means master. The wife is meant to be under the authority of her husband, because he is the master and Head of the family. The Bible even backed it up and that's how God Almighty made it to be. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by MJBOLT: 7:19pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
zombietians will soon come and tell us "ask and you shall be given" CAPSLOCKED: 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 7:32pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
God did not create woman to be under the dominion of man. He created woman cos * He saw that Adam was lonely and needed a hand around the garden - Gen 2:18 It is not good for man to be alone, I will make him a help mate) note not severnt, maid or worker but help mate to support his life and to have dominion over all things with him. An assistant. * It was God's intention for a man to leave his mother and father and be 1 with his woman - Gen 2:24 (o support his life as he moves around. An assistant. * He wanted continuity of the human race - Gen 1 :26-31(Be fruitful and multiply) No where in the creation story did Adam or God suggest that Eve had a lower status. The only things that dominion were given to Adam were other creation besides Eve. Now, as to where Eve fell and was placed below Adam was after they ate of the tree of good and evil aka tree of knowledge Gen 3:16 That is the verse where God now said her "husband" note the word husband not every man, not all men, but specifically husband will rule over her. As I see it. I think those curses are just added to the text to justify the stress of life and family hierachy cos of Adams curse is general and applies to both genders ie Men and women struggle for daily bread, men and women return to dust. So God did not in the beginning have it the way it is in mind. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Funaki: 8:28pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
delishpot: 1 Corinthians 11:7-9 KJV For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. [8] For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. [9] Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. The woman was created for the man. She's a byproduct according to the bible. 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 9:04pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Funaki: What you quoted up there was inspired by man (apostles interpretation as he taught what and how he understood it) ... Creations story was inspired by God as the story is given to man directly from God. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Funaki: 9:49pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
delishpot:I thought all scriptures are inspired by God ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 9:55pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
Funaki: No where did I say God personally wrote ony book ![]() If I tell you that God inspired me directly to write something or I tell you how I feel something should work based on what I read in the history or story handed down by God (My interpretation of the original copy).............which one will you class as Direct message from God and which one will you class as man's own understanding as it was written by the person inspired directly by God? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 11:06pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
delishpot: Why does the god not write it's own books? Still resting from all that creating? Its been a few thousand years now. 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 11:38pm On Jul 11, 2019 |
LordReed: You will have to ask him o. Me I no dey him mind. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 5:46am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: But you guys seem to know the mind of the god whenever it suits your purposes don't you? 5 Likes |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Funaki: 6:13am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: Paul claimed his revelation his directly from the Lord. He was not taught by anyone nor was it handed down to him. Galatians 1:12 I received my message from no human source, and no one taught me. Instead, I received it by direct revelation from Jesus Christ. Moses by the way, didn't have the original copy. Moses wrote something that happened thousands of years before he was born and you claimed it's direct from God ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by wolesmile(m): 6:18am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot:Are you saying that verse was not inspired of the spirit but as the writer understood it? Damn!!! |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 8:52am On Jul 12, 2019 |
wolesmile: I said what I wrote. Religious leaders translate and teach their religious books according to how they see it. Different preachers have their different interpretation as they feel inspired to do. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 9:01am On Jul 12, 2019 |
jesusjnr: The last time i read through the post by one of these atheists, my eyes were glued to the screen perhaps to examine the high intellect of our friend, dissapointed i became to know that he's just calling for attention when he has nothing tangible to offer! ![]() The Bible itself has answers for all the antagonistic questions that could spring up from the heart of critics! Let us make man in our own image! Genesis 1:26 All the heavenly creatures {angels} are the same, no gender! Luke 20:36 Of course all of us know for sure that there are creatures multiplying asexually, but as for the only intelligent creature made. It will later become a problem for him, let's give him an inseparable partner so that both will act as one person in all their dealings {Genesis 2:24} and still enjoy the warm embrace of each other! 1kings 1:2 compared to Ecclesiastes 4:11 Now they're confused amongst themselves because they don't want to be controlled by what the book says, so they're opting for homosexuality or lesbianism. But it still leads to the same point God made from the beginning 'two are better than one because they'll feel warm' why aren't they advocating for singleness, if they sincerely want to prove our book wrong? Romans 1:20 ![]() ![]() Let them speak out what's in their minds so we can help them to realise that the book {Bible} was inspired by the highest intelligent spirit of all times! 2Timothy 3:16-17 ![]() |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 9:13am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Funaki: So if your father tells a story as it happend to him and then 50 yrs later a grand or great grand son of his writes the story in a book then on the other hand if his grand or great grand son reads a copy of your dads story and writes a book that borders around the first book that was writting according to what your dad said happened live to him..... Does that story become your father's words or does it become an interpretation of your father's words according to how the writer understood the original text he read? I make my comment not being sentimental or passionate about if the bible is fact or not but based on its flow. If you read it in a bid to hate on it or disprove it you lose, if you read it in a bid to accept all it says without questions you lose. Same goes to all religious books. As for the first point you raised.... Which message was Paul talking about? Message of salvation? Message of salvation and the saving power of God through Christ is what Paul spoke about not his translation of how things work. Just like today Christian religion you find one pastor say earings are evil according to a certain chapter of the Bible, others will say women must cover their hair, some will forbid eating certain foods according to how they interpret a chapter in the bible etc. Does it mean that tomorrow if their books are coupled together and added to the bible (if the church elders had not out of fear that the other books they threw out of the bible may be added later which in turn made them place a curse in the end to discourage such) You will insist that their rules and regulations are not their own interpretation of the first book that governs their religion? Religion is tricky. I personally want to get firsthand communication with God and not dwell on what others claim. The most important parts of the Bible to me is the part that tells of God, Jesus by those who actually were with and personally witnessed it. I don't fancy stories told as passed by word of mouth. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 9:18am On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: I don't know which guys you talking about. No one knows the mind of God. I may be inspired by the spirit of God to percieve a certain thing a certain way but far be it from me that I claim to know God's mind. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 9:29am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: So when the spirit is inspiring you it is not inspiring you from the things the god knows? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 9:31am On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: It is in my opinion but still doesn't mean I know God's mind in general. That I ask you to do certain thing doesn't men you have automatically come to know my mind. 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 10:04am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: Knowing someone's mind is a figure of speech and does not mean you can actually read a person's thoughts. Rather it means you have an idea of the direction of the person's actions or words or motivations. If the spirit is inspiring you with things that are not coming from your own knowledge then it is doing so from its own mind thus you do know what the mind of the spirit is because you can interpret those inspirations into action or words. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 10:06am On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: You can only hear/feel God speak as it concerns certain things when you get an inspiration in that circumstance not know God's mind. No figure of speach in this case in my opinion. I can tell you to run in a certain circumstance and at another I can say stand and fight. If it happens that someone sees where I said stand and fight and uses that as a sign that he knows I will want him to fight in every situation as such that presents itself. Isn't that a wrong assumption? Does he really know my mind? That is why everyone is encouraged to know God personally. Cos one time you may be advised to stand, at another time you may be led to flee. It's a personal walk not a one size fits all thing. Build your own relationship. The foundation is the 10 commandments. Start from there and build up. The bible is a guide. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 10:44am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: Where did I say you always know someone's mind just out of one interaction? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 10:50am On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: Na wa o. Okay not always, occasionally. Is that better? Does it calm your nerves down now? What is the point you are even trying to prove exactly? Cos now I am scratching my head Thank you. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 10:58am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: You were trying to say you don't know the mind of the god and were trying to use the argument that you don't always hear the god. I never said you always hear the god so it has no bearing on what we are saying which is, in the times were you claim to be inspired by the spirit, you know the mind of the god. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 11:10am On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: I still don't know God's mind sha. I might claim to hear from God but NEVER claim to know his mind. Gods mind , I don't believe it can be used in this context. You made it sound general. But if you insist that hearing or being inspired by God is knowing his mind as it concerns that ocassion then yes. At such times you can say its God's mind in that scenerio. All of us can agree that we know the creator doesn't want us to steal, kill, bear false witnesses etc. So to an extent we all know "God's mind" even you. If that is what you are driving at. My point is I wouldn't call what you are explaining as "knowing" God's mind. As in first of all, does God have a mind? It's deeper than we know in my opinion. Anyone can always hear God, depending on your energy level, how you vibrate..... I believe you understand that part? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 11:12am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: Atheism is just another religion, but the captives don't realize it! They thought they're free from MIND CONTROLLING, yet they're restless because of religionists around. Instead of going peacefully to show how free they are, they're bent on convincing others to have a change of heart. And they're still maintaining that they're not also under a powerful spell as they're asserting regarding religionists! ![]() Simply quote! God must control humans and it's by inspiring some to spread his instructions to the others. Anything short of that is tantamount to deceit by the devil! If they're certain that the idea is wrong, then let them first live by their own rule 'No mind controlling so everyone should be free to think as he/she likes' no need of pestering anyone to think, say or do anything as you feel because that's another form of mind controlling tactics! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Funaki: 11:40am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: you're muddling everything up. Are you doing this intentionally? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It'll be very dishonest to claim that Paul didn't have revelation as the old testament prophets. Paul brought about reformation to Christianity in his teachings and books. Peter and his colleagues wanted to continue the status quo until Paul came to the scene and brought clarity to everything. The early Christian doctrine were centered on Paul's teachings. That's why after the Acts 13 meeting, the book of Acts were totally focused on Paul till the end. Even Peter that was the leading disciple of Jesus that stayed with Jesus throughout his ministry testified to this. 2 Peter 3:15-16 KJV And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; [16] As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. It's been long I did this. But I can still remember bible hermeneutics. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
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