https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://mobile.twitter.com/harumutasa/status/1096343266163871745&ved=2ahUKEwjwtYLhkK_jAhXLxYUKHRpJCwsQwqsBMAt6BAgEEBA&usg=AOvVaw2cetQxpk13U5DGCCLX7U0q video of desolate dusty Abuja Airport road

Calabar highway

Problemkid1:
I dey tell you. These people don lie to us tire if you go YouTube you will see worster than this ones sef

They are bloody liars. Breeze don blow fowl yanch don show.

rvp2018:
Westland n upper hill are residential areas turned CBD.The roads there are under
re-construction to deal with increasing traffic.That is not some secret.The Delta towers..pwc and one Africa place next was residential homes..and so are all those upper hill skyscrapers.

Your silly excuse dosent don't hold water. What have you been doing for the past 56 years of independence that the first and only cbd's you HAve is still lagging behind. If it has taken you 56 years and to build common roads at your cbd then I must say your road should be better than any road ever built in the world because it doesn't take 56 years to build a good and descent road. Even American road should be a joke to your 56 years old Road construction project

forgiveness:


They are bloody liars. Breeze don blow fowl yanch don show.

Hahahaha forgiveness I swear you no go kill me with laughter

rvp2018:
Indices that rank quality of road infrastructure say your roads are completely dilapidated and Kenya has some of good quality roads n overall infrastructure.

Superstories while the reality presents otherwise

See the street of Abuja and the sidewalk. This is not our CBD ooo.

samorobo:



@ bolded This cracked me up ... All the pictures of that building that they have posted from different angle potrayed the road to be in good condition but this videos has blown fowl yansh as you have implied..we can now see the real nairoslum for what it truly is "slum"

Whenever I want to watch comedy I visit Nairaland. Nollywood should travel to Kenya to scout for talented comedians. They beat Nigeria on this

rvp2018:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://mobile.twitter.com/harumutasa/status/1096343266163871745&ved=2ahUKEwjwtYLhkK_jAhXLxYUKHRpJCwsQwqsBMAt6BAgEEBA&usg=AOvVaw2cetQxpk13U5DGCCLX7U0q video of desolate dusty Abuja Airport road

You know I won't let you misbehave atleast not when I am around. If there is anything nigerians love boasting about it will be the roads in abuja. Below is your kenyan vlogger and her ghanian boyfriend commending abuja airport road. I hope you pay absolutely attention to the part were they compared the road with the developed countries road
.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5UOJNng41c

We are not suffering from your dilapidated infastructure

Problemkid1:
This one I guess. When it was still under construction

Do you have the recent picture of Abuja Airport Road after it was expanded? I am no more in Abuja I would have posted the picture.

Problemkid1:
Hahahaha forgiveness I swear you no go kill me with laughter

Where is vaxx ..if this monorail in port harcourt is not suspended then pls what is suspension


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8dDeSZ2kaU

The video below is shona monorail moving this way a sky train moves just like I explained earlier



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtAf1550Hg

This same train at dusseldorf Germany moves the same way a monorail moves


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYyphyOKvo


So vaxx what your point exactly

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Whenever I want to watch comedy I visit Nairaland. Nollywood should travel to Kenya to scout for talented comedians. They beat Nigeria on this

You are right. Joking taahira's..I am waiting for them

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Superstories while the reality presents otherwise

Overcooked indices influenced by their corrupt official. If that is one of africa's best road then africa has as been toiling with their lives on roads

GTB is africa's best bank of 2019.... Euromoney Awards held in London last night.

samorobo:



Have you noticed the taahira has not posted any image if nairsolum ..I guess reality has finally dawn on them.the era of photoshopped over edited images is over, let them face the reality now. Those roads are useless and even togo roads are by far better than that rubbish. Tell.me which cbd in the world houses open gutter,untarred roads and massive filth at its cbd (city centre ) a place for business with international investors. And to think that this is one africas tourist destination makes me wonder what kind of govt they have. Let tylann come and tell me that rubbish again " kenyatta will never allow our infastructure degrade to this level"

Kenya has better road infrastructure than Nigeria Uhuru will never allow our infrastructure to rot like Nigeria's infrastructure

Kazikazi:
Dar es salaam,Tanzania

To be honest this is not something to argue about. I am downloading this image immediately . Who in is right sense will compare nairoslum to Dar...I mean look at the serenity,quality infastructure, orderliness,road marking, pedestrian lane..tbh I could mistake this as london.
Joke apart I am not saying this because I have been supporting TZ but based on what I watched on nairoslum and what I am seeing now I must say the difference is massively clear

samorobo:
Where is vaxx ..if this monorail in port harcourt is not suspended then pls what is suspension


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8dDeSZ2kaU

The video below is shona monorail moving this way a sky train moves just like I explained earlier



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtAf1550Hg

This same train at dusseldorf Germany moves the same way a monorail moves


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYyphyOKvo


So vaxx what your point exactly

visit monorail.org to know the diffrence.

Kazikazi:
East Africa has free trade agreements, but it never stopped a huge Chinese imports.Most of African products are more expensive than Chinese or Indian products. Free trade zones won't stop our huge imports from China.The solution is to cut our production costs.

Yes we can cut production costs
Like cost of electricity

samorobo:



To be honest this is not something to argue about. I am downloading this image immediately . Who in is right sense will compare nairoslum to Dar...I mean look at the serenity,quality infastructure, orderliness,road marking, pedestrian lane..tbh I could mistake this as london.
Joke apart I am not saying this because I have been supporting TZ but based on what I watched on nairoslum and what I am seeing now I must say the difference is massively clear

Dude,
May be you forgot how in the past few months we have been burying souls in Kenya due to massive starvation in Turkana. Can a starving populace do anything? Can they build anything than slums of kibera,mathare,huruma,majengo,kwa njenga etc?

samorobo:



To be honest this is not something to argue about. I am downloading this image immediately . Who in is right sense will compare nairoslum to Dar...I mean look at the serenity,quality infastructure, orderliness,road marking, pedestrian lane..tbh I could mistake this as london.
Joke apart I am not saying this because I have been supporting TZ but based on what I watched on nairoslum and what I am seeing now I must say the difference is massively clear

It is good you are the only one who knows that .

tylann:


Yes we can cut production costs
Like cost of electricity

I agree its possible to cut our power costs.Actually, Africa should have the cheapest electricity in the world due to huge reserves of natural resources we possess. But we jumped into free trade zones instead of solving basic stuff first.DRC has Inga dams which is enough to power the whole of sub Saharan Africa, but we left it idle and rush to sign free trade pacts. What will Africa trade without having means of production?

samorobo:


Why announced it to raise the hope of the citizen's when you don't have a dime to pay for it.

As for skytrain I must say you don't know the literal mean of the word "SUSPENSION " cause if you do you would know that monorails are always suspended in the sky and are meant to run through the inner city like those ones in port harcourt and calabar. Or are you trying to say port harcourt &calabar monorails move on the ground.


As for your private sector I must still say that if your govt did what was right there is no way the private sector responsible for that job won't see it to reality and not just in the realms of dream. And for the record our country is more investor friendly than yours..in just five month we have gathered $2.87bn as foreign direct investment which is $1.3m less than what you collected in 12 month last year

There is cable car, there is mono rail which takes less time to construct . what you have in calabar is cable car and mono rail in port Harcourt. sky train is essentially diffrence. you may need a whole lot education on this technology. I think any engineering candidate may help you out. you are having challenges with terminology.

it is ignorant to referred light rail system as skytrain. they actually are elevated light rail systems. They run on conventional steel dual rails on a massive wide beam that takes longer years to achieved.


nothing shows Nigeria beat Ghana in foreing direct investments. no public info on that in Ghana. what is available is last year evidence. And by fact Ghana was the fourth largest receiver of foreing direct investment in africa and first in west africa. The. hope city is a private initiative not goverment investment. unless you don't know the diffrence?


2019 is massive in Ghana, it is labelled as year of return.



it is not about the money to financed the sky train. The feasibility study of the project is more important.

Kazikazi:
Dude,
May be you forgot how in the past few months we have been burying souls in Kenya due to massive starvation in Turkana. Can a starving populace do anything? Can they build anything than slums of kibera,mathare,huruma,majengo,kwa njenga etc?

As if dar has no slums

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Do you have the recent picture of Abuja Airport Road after it was expanded? I am no more in Abuja I would have posted the picture.

No I don't have that one for now

https://www.nairaland.com/5296452/flooded-nkpolu-rumuigbo-port-harcourt#80180823

Problemkid1:
No I don't have that one for now

I want make this comedians pee for pant e be like say dem sabi Nigerians

tylann:


https://www.nairaland.com/5296452/flooded-nkpolu-rumuigbo-port-harcourt#80180823

Staging a come back slowly? My brothers will beat you to stupor this time around
E be like say to dey cry dey sweet you

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Staging a come back slowly? My brothers will beat you to stupor this time around
E be like say to dey cry dey sweet you

What comeback if i may ask ??

Generator fever

https://www.nairaland.com/5295608/7-family-members-killed-generator

vaxx:
Apparently you are more obtuse than i thought. You have to quote me twice just to repeat what seems to be difficult for you to understand.

However I logged in nairaland after so many days, your post is more spooking than anything else. Seriously, why do I have to repeat same thing over & over?
Demographic Transition Model, Economic Complexity, Liberalisation, you didn't read anything and actually you didn't even read stats and history and making up things here.
You are arguing just for sake of arguing and commenting on things you don't know anything about nor you bothered to put an effort and confirm through internet, what you've said.

vaxx:
what are you saying? east Asia (particularly China has been known as most populated country in history and it has retain this position as far back as 2000 years.

What you are saying? Why do you comment you don't know anything? Asia's total population is big, not its population growth. Slower than even many developed countries.

vaxx:
The current birth rate of India is 2.4 not much gap of difference from Nigeria with 3.2 growth rate.

First, gap between 2.4 and 3.2 is not a small difference. Former one will keep you near replacement and will cause mild increase of population to maintain demographic dividend over 50 years (by some 20%), later one will double your population in 40 years!!


Second, Nigeria's fertility rate is 5.3, not 3.2.

vaxx:
Africa largest country by population. Nigeria is currently about 2.6 of the world population while India is about 17.4 .

http://www.prb.org/

Population growth rate:
India: 1.098% p.a.
Nigeria: 2.58% p.a.

Fertility rate:
India: 2.34 children per woman
Nigeria: 5-5.5 children per women

The above and the rates of decline in populations of India & Nigeria is enough to pull Nigeria in neck in population race with India within 100 years.

India will add around 275 millions in next 30 years while Nigeria will add 200 millions (take them as percentage of population). And the way continuously Indian population has been overestimated and Nigerian one is underestimated, India will stablize much much before expected 2035.
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-s-other-growth-story-where-slow-is-good-1562568729607.html

vaxx:
Not entirely true, China run a close economy during the cultural revolution of mao and she was sluggish opening up her economy. Some city like Shanghai were the the first to open up. And not all sector were open. China recently run fully open market not quite long age.

If you would've read what I had written earlier, you wouldn't responding that. The part of my post you replied to was about necessary things you need first, that is stability. The thing is there in Asia but not Africa.

I had told that how Mao screwed Chinese economy till 1978 and how Deng Xiaoping emerge later on carrying out structural changes to improve production revolutionize it. Yes, Chinese gained from exports a lot, not by closing economy at all.


And Chinese economy had no hope before this economic reform. China emerged after these changes.

vaxx:
And researcher have suggest China was able to run a successful close economy due to a larger size.

Which researcher?
China's population helped it to peg a larger economy, not a richer one.

Seriously, are you talking about national power or well being of people?
You can't change much in India by adding $200 billions to its economy but you will change lives with same amount in a country like Denmark if you add same into this.

Market size doesn't improve your economy, it only enlarges it. Once one market is saturated, you have to move to other one.
Put this into your brain.

vaxx:
Which will be impossible for a country like Togo to-do since she has a few population to stair up the economy.

But it was possible for Singapore somehow.

vaxx:
China will attribute her success rate to the base effect of her demographic boom during the close market.

China's success is attributed to its efforts to boost mass production, engagement with other countries to gain technologies from them, its labour and land reforms and adoption of free market economy within the country.

China ran state controlled capitalism.

vaxx:
You have challenge. Every one know this and nobody is arguing about that. The only issue here is why demographic boom can easily be overturned and programmed properly to the benefit of the economy, the former is seriously and damaging to the sustainability of the growth of a nation. It is one of the reasons why most declining nation in population are experiencing sluggish economic growth.

Challenging me? How many times are you going to insult yourself?
Either you were drunk while writing this over or are unable to focus on any logic.

You understand the difference between "DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDEND" and "SIZE OF TOTAL POPULATION".
Why do you think Vietnam is growing faster than Japan despite smaller population?
Slowon is due "AGING AND DECLINING POPULATION" and not "ALREADY SMALL POPULATION". A country with barely 50 million people will grow much faster than other one with 1 billion provided it has stability, demographic advantage and economic structure.

Both high & negative population growths have adverse effects on economy. That's why I asked you to study Demographic Transition Model first what you didn't at all.

Belief that country can grow just because its population is big is mental retardation. Many already more populated African nations got population growth rate higher than GDP growth rate and so getting poor every year. Same case isn't there in Europe.

Similarly, China & India grew only after their economic reforms.

vaxx:
You are mad once again. Are you spoonfeeding an India like you here. In 2020, the average Indian will be 29 years old or Nigeria around 19 years compared that with an average age of 37 in China and the United States, 45 in Western Europe, and 48 in Japan. This simply demonsrate that there will be a large and growing labour force in India than above country yet unemployment rate keep rising in India from 5 percent to 7 percent rate. despite the econmy growth, india is Hardwick to fiill up unemployment holes. Since the growing working age are not SKILLFUL enough. India recently pull out of Pisa . Global education ranking which have continuously ranked India below . This is to show something is wrong with India EDUCATIONAl structure.

1. You totally changed the context and actually changed the argument. You could not pose any contradiction to what I said but you are trying to REJECT it by selective approaches in a case study (of India).
2. There has been a period of jobless growth in India for last 10 years and will last at least 3 more years. Whenever a country transits from agriculture to industrial sector, it faces a period of jobless growth due to skill gap, everyone had. Moreover, increasing unemployment rates are trend around world due to trade war. Southeast Asian countries are tapping industries escaping China faster than India.

The problem is short lived however, many developed and developing countries have much higher unemployment rates. As for PISA, it quotes techs which aren't prevalent in India. Indians are good at what is prevalent. However, I don't deny that there's a great scope of improvement in education sector yet.

vaxx:
Therefore , demographic dividend will only be an advantage on paper and if left un-utilized, it will sours into unbearable burden for the nation.

I don't have conflict with you here. Case is different that it wasn't even part of our argument.

India performs bad agaisnt countries it compares itself with again, classic examples of mismanagement are thousands of miles away from shores, in Africa.

vaxx:
Just like I said earlier, . But right choices of goverment in a populated country can transform balloon nation into a healthy, educated, empowered labor force. It is easier when such nation invested heavily on the critical sector ( health and education) This is what lifts people out of poverty in Japan, south Korea, China. We are taliking about the ability of government to invest more in child education and health care here. Doing this will be providing for a healthier cohort of working adults / with ready skills, ready to move into the economy’s expanding job market that primarily have a large populated advantage. You only benefit from demographic dividends when investment in critical sector are possible . Remember the base effect of a control population too.

Goverment's ability to spend on well being of people is determined by how much revenue can generate. A country without demographic advantage won't be able to do it for long.

Initial priority for all these countries and so now for India infrastructure to help business expand.

vaxx:
So a well grounded policy such as investment into above critical sector i made earlier will solve the pussle becuse it will create more entrepreneurial spirit minded population instead of job seeking population.

Well, India ranks very fairly in GEI.

Entrepreneurs can't do any sh!t unless a new idea & consumption is there. Hundreds and thousands of startups open up & close in USA, China & India. They have highest number of startups and densities & can't be classified as best at entrepreneurship.

Your statement "Being entrepreneur instead of job seeking" is good only at motivational lectures.

vaxx:
Larger population with sophisticated idea have more entrepreneurial citizens than smaller nations. China , USA and south Korea. Even by absolute Nigeria as the largest populated black nation has more entrepreneurial individual than most of the sub Saharan black nations.

Even India has one of highest number of entrepreneurs and billionaires. That doesn't help to deny India's socio economic situation. US is one of worst among developed countries, China is still a second world one and Nigeria is worse than all above in health & education.

They are only powerful because of so many industries because they are so big countries.


Funnily, you skipped India and put Nigeria in your argument to emulate me (YOU WERE TRYING TO IMPLY "INDIA" DOESN'T HAVE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR) which in fact is another indication of your knowledge level.

Indian industrial sector exceeds GDP of Nigeria. India is just not enough for itself.

It clearly states it's about density with respect to your population which makes you good.

India is a lower middle income country and has problems faced by any such other country. At the same time, India is ahead of many these countries in other sectors. India is large in size and multiplied with income level, it is translated to India's comprehensive national power. Similar translation is for USA & China.

It neither puts USA ahead of Norway nor China ahead of Japan.

vaxx:
What grows nation are investment in critical sector. Demographic devinded is only an advantage on paper when right choices are not taking.
[quote author=vaxx post=79657812]You must be hyping yourself way above your reasoning. That advice actually is direct opinion you must take seriously. Don't pick nicketing, there are more chances that you might be subjective in your THOUGHT.

I'm not hyping myself. You are acting more & more dumb. I go objective when I provide stats and I get subjective when I give reasons for them.

You are only citing your inconsistent perceptions meanwhile.

vaxx:
what is this madness?
This is called a free market. China benefit from her sheer size of her domestic markets during her close market perioud.

1. Large population didn't enrich China.
2. Market increases with purchasing power & not with breeding like rats.
3. Internal production is needed to be enough for population. China rose after reforms of 1978 to encourage economic complexity and diversity and opened up economy to integrate with globe. Economic Complexity is the key to long term growth while demographic dividend is a lubricant here.
4. China was a failed state in its absolutely Communist & economically closed period.

vaxx:
She is so big enough to do so.

Being big doesn't make you self sustained. It actually puts more burden and reduces natural resources per capita.

vaxx:
Africa is not economically sustainable like Asia becuse it is not as integrated as Asia.

Asia isn't very much integrated either. FTAs and networks around are recent. Asians earned by exporting to west.

And Asia isn't a single entity either. Different region has different economic history, story and future. Any two may or may not be comparable.

Africa's needs are first stability, then to reduce dependency on commodities and promote economic diversification.

vaxx:
Well, that story is about to change. By July 1 of this year. most Africans country are signing into a single trade zone. The market analyst predicted it to worth around 2 trillion dollar.

Just by signing FTAs or connecting Africa with rail & road networks?

vaxx:
Yet India economy growth is not filling up unemployment holes.

Economic growth doesn't necessarily translate into employment. During transition period, any fast growing economy faces unemployment.

Sometimes you are under skilled to do so, sometimes you are over skilled, sometimes salary is low and sometimes you are skilled in other field. Later 3 are reasons for India's unemployment (if you completely read the source).

Unemployed of any developed country have mostly equal to or better living standards than an employed Indian. Same applies for Indian ones against more backward counterparts.

India has mostly engineering graduates as unemployed as sector isn't expanding that fast. Second is wage crisis. Usual wage offered for freshers is $220-$300 per month while people aren't willing to have less than $450 per month.
And the most important one is credibility of this data. India can accurately track formal jobs only. Informal jobs are kept confidential by people.

vaxx:
Those who are benefiting are those who already have enoghh capital and assets, the free market economic model takes wealth from the poor and gives it to the rich. China system was able to outsmart this.

It happened in every case. From China to Myanmar, India & Bangladesh. Free market left poverty ratio just a small fraction of what it used to be.

vaxx:
India had the second lowest score rate of education standard in the entire south Asia. Not until when investment are largely direct to this sector, India will still remain where it is.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/economy-policy/underinvesting-in-health-education-is-now-risking-india-s-economic-future-118092500110_1.html

Education "standard" only quotes average years of schooling. It doesn't takes literacy, youth literacy and institutional rankings into account.

It doesn't even account for kind of industries established all over India (and kind of skills required) that puts India well ahead "South Asian" neighbors at least.

Finally, you've started on putting articles suggesting me "investing on education". Seriously, when I denied that education is important? I said demographic advantage is vital for sustaining growth which is uncontradictable.