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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:08am On Jul 12, 2019 |
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://mobile.twitter.com/harumutasa/status/1096343266163871745&ved=2ahUKEwjwtYLhkK_jAhXLxYUKHRpJCwsQwqsBMAt6BAgEEBA&usg=AOvVaw2cetQxpk13U5DGCCLX7U0q video of desolate dusty Abuja Airport road 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 11:11am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Calabar highway 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:12am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Problemkid1: They are bloody liars. Breeze don blow fowl yanch don show. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:13am On Jul 12, 2019 |
rvp2018: Your silly excuse dosent don't hold water. What have you been doing for the past 56 years of independence that the first and only cbd's you HAve is still lagging behind. If it has taken you 56 years and to build common roads at your cbd then I must say your road should be better than any road ever built in the world because it doesn't take 56 years to build a good and descent road. Even American road should be a joke to your 56 years old Road construction project |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 11:16am On Jul 12, 2019 |
forgiveness:Hahahaha forgiveness I swear you no go kill me with laughter 3 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:16am On Jul 12, 2019 |
rvp2018:Superstories while the reality presents otherwise 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 11:21am On Jul 12, 2019 |
See the street of Abuja and the sidewalk. This is not our CBD ooo. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:22am On Jul 12, 2019 |
samorobo:Whenever I want to watch comedy I visit Nairaland. Nollywood should travel to Kenya to scout for talented comedians. They beat Nigeria on this 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:26am On Jul 12, 2019 |
rvp2018: You know I won't let you misbehave atleast not when I am around. If there is anything nigerians love boasting about it will be the roads in abuja. Below is your kenyan vlogger and her ghanian boyfriend commending abuja airport road. I hope you pay absolutely attention to the part were they compared the road with the developed countries road . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5UOJNng41c We are not suffering from your dilapidated infastructure |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 11:31am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Problemkid1:Do you have the recent picture of Abuja Airport Road after it was expanded? I am no more in Abuja I would have posted the picture. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 11:31am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Problemkid1: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:38am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Where is vaxx ..if this monorail in port harcourt is not suspended then pls what is suspension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8dDeSZ2kaU The video below is shona monorail moving this way a sky train moves just like I explained earlier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtAf1550Hg This same train at dusseldorf Germany moves the same way a monorail moves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAYyphyOKvo So vaxx what your point exactly |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:39am On Jul 12, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: You are right. Joking taahira's..I am waiting for them 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:43am On Jul 12, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: Overcooked indices influenced by their corrupt official. If that is one of africa's best road then africa has as been toiling with their lives on roads 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:51am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Dar es salaam,Tanzania 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 11:55am On Jul 12, 2019 |
GTB is africa's best bank of 2019.... Euromoney Awards held in London last night. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 11:56am On Jul 12, 2019 |
samorobo: Kenya has better road infrastructure than Nigeria Uhuru will never allow our infrastructure to rot like Nigeria's infrastructure |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:57am On Jul 12, 2019 |
Kazikazi: To be honest this is not something to argue about. I am downloading this image immediately . Who in is right sense will compare nairoslum to Dar...I mean look at the serenity,quality infastructure, orderliness,road marking, pedestrian lane..tbh I could mistake this as london. Joke apart I am not saying this because I have been supporting TZ but based on what I watched on nairoslum and what I am seeing now I must say the difference is massively clear 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:58am On Jul 12, 2019 |
samorobo:visit monorail.org to know the diffrence. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 12:00pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Kazikazi: Yes we can cut production costs Like cost of electricity |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 12:04pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
samorobo:Dude, May be you forgot how in the past few months we have been burying souls in Kenya due to massive starvation in Turkana. Can a starving populace do anything? Can they build anything than slums of kibera,mathare,huruma,majengo,kwa njenga etc? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 12:06pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
samorobo: It is good you are the only one who knows that . |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 12:10pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
tylann:I agree its possible to cut our power costs.Actually, Africa should have the cheapest electricity in the world due to huge reserves of natural resources we possess. But we jumped into free trade zones instead of solving basic stuff first.DRC has Inga dams which is enough to power the whole of sub Saharan Africa, but we left it idle and rush to sign free trade pacts. What will Africa trade without having means of production? 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 12:10pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
samorobo:There is cable car, there is mono rail which takes less time to construct . what you have in calabar is cable car and mono rail in port Harcourt. sky train is essentially diffrence. you may need a whole lot education on this technology. I think any engineering candidate may help you out. you are having challenges with terminology. it is ignorant to referred light rail system as skytrain. they actually are elevated light rail systems. They run on conventional steel dual rails on a massive wide beam that takes longer years to achieved. nothing shows Nigeria beat Ghana in foreing direct investments. no public info on that in Ghana. what is available is last year evidence. And by fact Ghana was the fourth largest receiver of foreing direct investment in africa and first in west africa. The. hope city is a private initiative not goverment investment. unless you don't know the diffrence? 2019 is massive in Ghana, it is labelled as year of return. it is not about the money to financed the sky train. The feasibility study of the project is more important. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 12:28pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Kazikazi: As if dar has no slums |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 12:42pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed:No I don't have that one for now 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 12:49pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 12:54pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Problemkid1:I want make this comedians pee for pant e be like say dem sabi Nigerians |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 12:56pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
tylann:Staging a come back slowly? My brothers will beat you to stupor this time around E be like say to dey cry dey sweet you 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:04pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
NigeriaIsDoomed: What comeback if i may ask ?? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 1:06pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 1:06pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
vaxx:However I logged in nairaland after so many days, your post is more spooking than anything else. Seriously, why do I have to repeat same thing over & over? Demographic Transition Model, Economic Complexity, Liberalisation, you didn't read anything and actually you didn't even read stats and history and making up things here. You are arguing just for sake of arguing and commenting on things you don't know anything about nor you bothered to put an effort and confirm through internet, what you've said. vaxx:What you are saying? Why do you comment you don't know anything? Asia's total population is big, not its population growth. Slower than even many developed countries. vaxx:First, gap between 2.4 and 3.2 is not a small difference. Former one will keep you near replacement and will cause mild increase of population to maintain demographic dividend over 50 years (by some 20%), later one will double your population in 40 years!! Second, Nigeria's fertility rate is 5.3, not 3.2. vaxx:Population growth rate: India: 1.098% p.a. Nigeria: 2.58% p.a. Fertility rate: India: 2.34 children per woman Nigeria: 5-5.5 children per women The above and the rates of decline in populations of India & Nigeria is enough to pull Nigeria in neck in population race with India within 100 years. India will add around 275 millions in next 30 years while Nigeria will add 200 millions (take them as percentage of population). And the way continuously Indian population has been overestimated and Nigerian one is underestimated, India will stablize much much before expected 2035. https://www.livemint.com/news/india/india-s-other-growth-story-where-slow-is-good-1562568729607.html vaxx:If you would've read what I had written earlier, you wouldn't responding that. The part of my post you replied to was about necessary things you need first, that is stability. The thing is there in Asia but not Africa. I had told that how Mao screwed Chinese economy till 1978 and how Deng Xiaoping emerge later on carrying out structural changes to improve production revolutionize it. Yes, Chinese gained from exports a lot, not by closing economy at all. And Chinese economy had no hope before this economic reform. China emerged after these changes. vaxx:Which researcher? China's population helped it to peg a larger economy, not a richer one. Seriously, are you talking about national power or well being of people? You can't change much in India by adding $200 billions to its economy but you will change lives with same amount in a country like Denmark if you add same into this. Market size doesn't improve your economy, it only enlarges it. Once one market is saturated, you have to move to other one. Put this into your brain. vaxx:But it was possible for Singapore somehow. vaxx:China's success is attributed to its efforts to boost mass production, engagement with other countries to gain technologies from them, its labour and land reforms and adoption of free market economy within the country. China ran state controlled capitalism. vaxx:Challenging me? How many times are you going to insult yourself? Either you were drunk while writing this over or are unable to focus on any logic. You understand the difference between "DEMOGRAPHIC DIVIDEND" and "SIZE OF TOTAL POPULATION". Why do you think Vietnam is growing faster than Japan despite smaller population? Slowon is due "AGING AND DECLINING POPULATION" and not "ALREADY SMALL POPULATION". A country with barely 50 million people will grow much faster than other one with 1 billion provided it has stability, demographic advantage and economic structure. Both high & negative population growths have adverse effects on economy. That's why I asked you to study Demographic Transition Model first what you didn't at all. Belief that country can grow just because its population is big is mental retardation. Many already more populated African nations got population growth rate higher than GDP growth rate and so getting poor every year. Same case isn't there in Europe. Similarly, China & India grew only after their economic reforms. vaxx:1. You totally changed the context and actually changed the argument. You could not pose any contradiction to what I said but you are trying to REJECT it by selective approaches in a case study (of India). 2. There has been a period of jobless growth in India for last 10 years and will last at least 3 more years. Whenever a country transits from agriculture to industrial sector, it faces a period of jobless growth due to skill gap, everyone had. Moreover, increasing unemployment rates are trend around world due to trade war. Southeast Asian countries are tapping industries escaping China faster than India. The problem is short lived however, many developed and developing countries have much higher unemployment rates. As for PISA, it quotes techs which aren't prevalent in India. Indians are good at what is prevalent. However, I don't deny that there's a great scope of improvement in education sector yet. vaxx:I don't have conflict with you here. Case is different that it wasn't even part of our argument. India performs bad agaisnt countries it compares itself with again, classic examples of mismanagement are thousands of miles away from shores, in Africa. vaxx:Goverment's ability to spend on well being of people is determined by how much revenue can generate. A country without demographic advantage won't be able to do it for long. Initial priority for all these countries and so now for India infrastructure to help business expand. vaxx:Well, India ranks very fairly in GEI. Entrepreneurs can't do any sh!t unless a new idea & consumption is there. Hundreds and thousands of startups open up & close in USA, China & India. They have highest number of startups and densities & can't be classified as best at entrepreneurship. Your statement "Being entrepreneur instead of job seeking" is good only at motivational lectures. vaxx:Even India has one of highest number of entrepreneurs and billionaires. That doesn't help to deny India's socio economic situation. US is one of worst among developed countries, China is still a second world one and Nigeria is worse than all above in health & education. They are only powerful because of so many industries because they are so big countries. Funnily, you skipped India and put Nigeria in your argument to emulate me (YOU WERE TRYING TO IMPLY "INDIA" DOESN'T HAVE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR) which in fact is another indication of your knowledge level. Indian industrial sector exceeds GDP of Nigeria. India is just not enough for itself. It clearly states it's about density with respect to your population which makes you good. India is a lower middle income country and has problems faced by any such other country. At the same time, India is ahead of many these countries in other sectors. India is large in size and multiplied with income level, it is translated to India's comprehensive national power. Similar translation is for USA & China. It neither puts USA ahead of Norway nor China ahead of Japan. vaxx:I'm not hyping myself. You are acting more & more dumb. I go objective when I provide stats and I get subjective when I give reasons for them. You are only citing your inconsistent perceptions meanwhile. vaxx:1. Large population didn't enrich China. 2. Market increases with purchasing power & not with breeding like rats. 3. Internal production is needed to be enough for population. China rose after reforms of 1978 to encourage economic complexity and diversity and opened up economy to integrate with globe. Economic Complexity is the key to long term growth while demographic dividend is a lubricant here. 4. China was a failed state in its absolutely Communist & economically closed period. vaxx:Being big doesn't make you self sustained. It actually puts more burden and reduces natural resources per capita. vaxx:Asia isn't very much integrated either. FTAs and networks around are recent. Asians earned by exporting to west. And Asia isn't a single entity either. Different region has different economic history, story and future. Any two may or may not be comparable. Africa's needs are first stability, then to reduce dependency on commodities and promote economic diversification. vaxx:Just by signing FTAs or connecting Africa with rail & road networks? vaxx:Economic growth doesn't necessarily translate into employment. During transition period, any fast growing economy faces unemployment. Sometimes you are under skilled to do so, sometimes you are over skilled, sometimes salary is low and sometimes you are skilled in other field. Later 3 are reasons for India's unemployment (if you completely read the source). Unemployed of any developed country have mostly equal to or better living standards than an employed Indian. Same applies for Indian ones against more backward counterparts. India has mostly engineering graduates as unemployed as sector isn't expanding that fast. Second is wage crisis. Usual wage offered for freshers is $220-$300 per month while people aren't willing to have less than $450 per month. And the most important one is credibility of this data. India can accurately track formal jobs only. Informal jobs are kept confidential by people. vaxx:It happened in every case. From China to Myanmar, India & Bangladesh. Free market left poverty ratio just a small fraction of what it used to be. vaxx:Education "standard" only quotes average years of schooling. It doesn't takes literacy, youth literacy and institutional rankings into account. It doesn't even account for kind of industries established all over India (and kind of skills required) that puts India well ahead "South Asian" neighbors at least. Finally, you've started on putting articles suggesting me "investing on education". Seriously, when I denied that education is important? I said demographic advantage is vital for sustaining growth which is uncontradictable. 1 Like |
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