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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Goel: 1:06pm On Jul 12, 2019
vaxx:
Not just controlling the population growth alone but investing in the direct sector. Even if China China curb her population growth without pumping much investment into the critical sector. The case of China will still not be different from India today. Which further grounded my assessment that demographic dividends is adjust an advantage on paper if investment are not directed into critical sector of the society . Healthy citizens and skilfully population tends to change the dynamic of a nation more positively.
You need to have money to "invest" in these sectors. Curbing population by one child policy has actually slowed down its long term growth.


China invested in required skills according to structural changes it adopted and same was followed by India in 80s.
vaxx:
Countries where education levels are already high, where much investment in transport and communications systems is in place, and where political and economy systems are relatively stable, are well equipped to cope with rapid population grow than vice versa.
That's obvious, they have all these sectors in place. That's why they use immigrants to grow their countries.


However, countries with high educational level, infrastructure, transport and public sector are rich countries. A poor country can't afford things like them. It keeps on investing in sectors according to its ongoing economic growth.


India is a lower middle income economy with indicators same as that of any lower middle income economy. They are improving at a speed in synergy with India's growing income level to transit into an upper middle income one.
vaxx:
Population growth should be maintain in accordance with the economy growth. Overrun it has is own downward effect. North America, Japan has experience economic growth by moderates population growth of recent. .
Once pensioners exceed taxpayers.
vaxx:
Nearly bullshilt.
Bullsh!t was you wrote Chinese GDP exceeds US & Europe combined.
vaxx:
We not be able to cover all the flaws. There is what is know in economics as initial conditions’. India and China are historical known to have some of the world giant economy ( human and agricultural land) both China and India , accounted for more than half of the world industrial production before the Industrial Revolution..
And This is the same reason China and India GDP are projected to overtake usa accordingly.
What kind of logic is this? Just because China & India were largest economies of past, they will become so again? Why not other similar ancient civilizations like Mexico or Egypt? Why not Britain in future because it was one in previous century?

China & India are advantaged because of large populations. And when you manage to get hold of a way grow, it's way to go.

USA isn't very great among developed country. But it's largest ever developed country with population exceeding 300 millions. Even Soviet Union was just an upper middle income country but was world's third most populated country after China & India.

Now, you have to pick what you are talking about. Well being or total national power?
In context total national power, Russia will decline like UK while India will be there along with USA & China as a superpower. It will be last left one as soon as US & China decline.


In case of well being, India had initial 40 years of economic mismanagement and improving lately. So being a developed country is far fetched goal for India.
vaxx:
India only face a major set back in the 60s and 70s due to political instability which is yet to get her self out till date.
India didn't have any political instability till 90s. One party was ruling consistently. Yet this era is responsible for India's economic stagnation and all socio economic problems. Kindly don't make up things, if you don't know, just don't write on that.


India entered an era of instability with coalition governments rising and falling after 90s yet had fastest growth period since independence.


Technically, India is a politically stable country right since its democratization in 1950 with no regime change and coup attempts and internal politics emerging much later.

The reason was Nehruvian Socialism. India's classic liberal and right wing parties which were contemporary capitalists were weak against left. They initially gave impact in late 70s and later merged into forming BJP (India's current ruling party) which got ever increasing popularity since 90s. As stronger opposition, they forced government for reforms while as ruling, they reformed it themselves.

Increased money in system allowed government for tax revenue for better education and healthcare, steep decline in poverty, rapid improvement in all development indicators. Following decade, India changed into a lower middle income country from a low income country.
A lot more is to improve there while transiting to next stage.
vaxx:
Modern China has never been poorer like africa .
Modern China was much poorer than Africa in almost entire previous century until 1980s. At some instances, its GDP per capita was even a fraction of Africa's.
vaxx:
well in compare to india , the whole of Africa is not historically disadvantaged.
Africa was far more advantaged than both China & India after WW2 with GDP per capita much higher than Asia itself (that even at a time when Japan's GDP was more than rest of Asia combined).
vaxx:
Ancient agricultural countries like Egypt , Tunisia and Algeria are fully on par with India in growth potential, and in fact, are much richer than India today.
I'm talking of contemporary Africa and actually on average.
In case of growth outlook however, none of them is advantaged except Egypt.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:50pm On Jul 12, 2019
Kazikazi:
I agree its possible to cut our power costs.Actually, Africa should have the cheapest electricity in the world due to huge reserves of natural resources we possess. But we jumped into free trade zones instead of solving basic stuff first.DRC has Inga dams which is enough to power the whole of sub Saharan Africa, but we left it idle and rush to sign free trade pacts. What will Africa trade without having means of production?
How do you propose Inga dam will help Africa without free trade...free trade include trading in energy, opening and sharing infrastructure.Youre just a typical uneducated Bongolala from Danganyika.If other Africa countries copied Kenya and traded 50% within Africa we could get somewhere.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 1:55pm On Jul 12, 2019
rvp2018:
How do you propose Inga dam will help Africa without free trade...free trade include trading in energy, opening and sharing infrastructure.Youre just a typical uneducated Bongolala.If other Africa countries copied Kenya and traded 50% within Africa we could get somewhere.
Are you the same moniker using Goel. be honest in your reply. There is so much similarity in your writting.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:05pm On Jul 12, 2019
vaxx:
Are you the same moniker using Goel. be honest in your reply. There is so much similarity in your writting.
Of course not.Goel if I recall is an Indian electrical engineer who once worked in Nigeria.He is a good read.I wish you were not combative and antagonistic maybe you'd learn something.Are you based in Germany?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 2:16pm On Jul 12, 2019
tylann:


What comeback if i may ask ??
No matter how lizard do press-up reach e no go fit get muscle pass crocodile. Kenya na Lizard wey Naija dey so no forget again. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:20pm On Jul 12, 2019
Kazikazi:
I agree its possible to cut our power costs.Actually, Africa should have the cheapest electricity in the world due to huge reserves of natural resources we possess. But we jumped into free trade zones instead of solving basic stuff first.DRC has Inga dams which is enough to power the whole of sub Saharan Africa, but we left it idle and rush to sign free trade pacts. What will Africa trade without having means of production?

Who is we? We are not responsible for Nigeria's chronic power outages or Tanzanian lack of power. We are also not responsible for the non feasibility findings of Bagamoyo port. You should carry your own cross.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:22pm On Jul 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Staging a come back slowly? My brothers will beat you to stupor this time around grin grin
E be like say to dey cry dey sweet you

Are we responsible for the flooding in your ports? Why can't you own up to your own inadequacies? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 2:24pm On Jul 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
No matter how lizard do press-up reach e no go fit get muscle pass crocodile. Kenya na Lizard wey Naija dey so no forget again. grin

You should address the flooding, Shia protests and generator deaths without Involving Kenyans. Don't bury your head in the sand Obaboon.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 2:33pm On Jul 12, 2019
gallivant:


You should address the flooding, Shia protests and generator deaths without Involving Kenyans. Don't bury your head in the sand Obaboon.
Flooding happens everywhere and I'm sure your one city slummy country is no exception. Wake me up when Nairoslum starts constructing quality roads like Uyo. grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jonraid(m): 2:44pm On Jul 12, 2019
Kenyan PhD student tops continental thesis competition


A University of Nairobi PhD student emerged winner of the Three Minute Thesis competition (SMT) in Accra, Ghana.

Sr Mary Taabu Simuyu’s research work on cheaper, quicker water purification system for the developing world stole the show, scooping first prize while Paapa Yaw and Caroline Dinam Badzi of the University of Ghana came second and third respectively during the event on June 26.
The Three Minute Thesis competition, which was developed by The University of Queensland, is an annual competition open to PhD students to challenge them present their research in just 180 seconds.
It is a fast-paced competition, where top 10 finalists compete by orally summarising and presenting a discussion of their two to three-plus years of research to include its significance and relevance within three minutes.
The competition is held in more than 200 universities worldwide, and aims to develop presentation, communication, research and academic skills to support the students’ capacity to effectively explain their work.
This year, the competition involved University of Nairobi’s Njengah Solomon Ng’ang’a, Aketch Elisha Ochungo, Adhiambo Eunice Odek, Christine Atieno Omuombo and Sr Simiyu under the lead of Associate Prof Karori Mbugua, who also sat in as one of the six judges.
After a two-day rigorous coaching session by Prof Steve Hutchinson, the group of 10 finalists successfully presented their research ideas within three minutes before a panel of judges.
The judges panel comprised Prof Margaret Lartey (University of Ghana), Prof Mbugua (UoN), Dr Giampaoolo Pitruzzello (University of York), Prof Deborah Smith (Pro-Vice Chancellor for Research, University of York ), Prof H Leslie Steeves (University of Oregon) and Prof Tom Stoneham (University of York).
The theme for the competition “10 graduates =10 powerful global Impacts” fitted well with the competition.


https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001333584/kenyan-phd-student-tops-continental-thesis-competition

I can tell you for a fact that most students graduating in Europe seek writing services from countries like India and Kenya when it comes to writing.I have an undergrad friend who has written a lot for masters students in the UK and US! grin


This article should proove it! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6861373/British-students-cheat-way-doctorates-paying-companies-write-dissertations.html

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 2:49pm On Jul 12, 2019
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Mr Goel, pls forgive Mr Vaxx. grin he know not what he's doing.... he's already confusing u as someone else after that round of tutorial.

Mr Vaxx, I've told u several times that discussion is better than argument, let that slip cos I'm sure u're already planning a rebuttal.

I'm even sure u'll still castigate me on this. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:09pm On Jul 12, 2019
Total bullshit as usual.
Goel:

You need to have money to "invest" in these sectors. Curbing population by one child policy has actually slowed down its long term growth.


China invested in required skills according to structural changes it adopted and same was followed by India in 80s.

That's obvious, they have all these sectors in place. That's why they use immigrants to grow their countries.
This is where the advantage of having initial large number of population comes into play. china Start producing things, at a profit, both for domestic use and what others want. china stop producing things, at a loss, that she and other countries do not want. And the money starts to come in, she save and invest it to the critical sector. .


However, countries with high educational level, infrastructure, transport and public sector are rich countries. A poor country can't afford things like them. It keeps on investing in sectors according to its ongoing economic growth.
India can become a rich country quicker than a smaller country. Tax incentive only can boost her growth. The government offer low taxes, it can even raised t revenues through a property tax on the expensive, multi-million dollar houses of the ultra-rich of India . In return the rich spend - boosting the local economy' and turning India quickly and faster to a rich country than Any smaller country.


India is a lower middle income economy with indicators same as that of any lower middle income economy. They are improving at a speed in synergy with India's growing income level to transit into an upper middle income one.
This is not an excuse, A good environment and a world class secondary school system populated by foreign teachers can help attract the best talent from around the world. This is what UAE is doing and Singapore.

india can easily become a large manufacturer and easily own financial centre like new york or Shanghai.

Once pensioners exceed taxpayers.
well in India the number of income tax payer are very less.


Bullsh!t was you wrote Chinese GDP exceeds US & Europe combined.
bullshit as usual, Chinese GDP had once be the highest in the world. just use Google.

What kind of logic is this? Just because China & India were largest economies of past, they will become so again? Why not other similar ancient civilizations like Mexico or Egypt? Why not Britain in future because it was one in previous century?
You like guffing. Britain is not historically advantage like China and India. therefore there is no similarities here. even the age difference is a factor apart from their economy power.

China & India are advantaged because of large populations. And when you manage to get hold of a way grow, it's way to go.

USA isn't very great among developed country. But it's largest ever developed country with population exceeding 300 millions. Even Soviet Union was just an upper middle income country but was world's third most populated country after China & India.



Modern China was much poorer than Africa in almost entire previous century until 1980s. At some instances, its GDP per capita was even a fraction of Africa's.

Africa was far more advantaged than both China & India after WW2 with GDP per capita much higher than Asia itself (that even at a time when Japan's GDP was more than rest of Asia combined).

I'm talking of contemporary Africa and actually on average.
In case of growth outlook however, none of them is advantaged except Egypt.[/
Africa is africa. nothing like contemporary Africa here. is there anything like contemporary Asia? What a stupid veiw?

show me evidence China was once poorer than entire africa? And let me highlight many instances African nations has been rated better than india.


and to stop at this silly argument, Tunisia, Algeria and Egypt are all by far at miles than india
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:12pm On Jul 12, 2019
theenchanter:
gringringringringringringringringringringringringrin

Mr Goel, pls forgive Mr Vaxx. grin he know not what he's doing.... he's already confusing u as someone else after that round of tutorial.

Mr Vaxx, I've told u several times that discussion is better than argument, let that slip cos I'm sure u're already planning a rebuttal.

I'm even sure u'll still castigate me on this. grin
grin most you mentioned me. Anyway i will let it pass. tutorial very funny you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:15pm On Jul 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Flooding happens everywhere and I'm sure your one city slummy country is no exception. Wake me up when Nairoslum starts constructing quality roads like Uyo. grin grin

As usual your inadequacies are getting the better of you. Flooding happens when you fail to put in place infrastructure to mitigate the elements. Nothing to do with us. wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 3:17pm On Jul 12, 2019
rvp2018:
Of course not.Goel if I recall is an Indian electrical engineer who once worked in Nigeria.He is a good read.I wish you were not combative and antagonistic maybe you'd learn something.Are you based in Germany?
Whatever the case might be. Anyway, his idea didn't sound impressive and that is why we are still it. I am already pissed off.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 3:19pm On Jul 12, 2019
gallivant:


As usual your inadequacies are getting the better of you. Flooding happens when you fail to put in place infrastructure to mitigate the elements. Nothing to do with us. wink
Uyo roads grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 3:21pm On Jul 12, 2019
Roads in Uyo beat all the roads in Nairoslum grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 3:24pm On Jul 12, 2019
Nairoslum CBD only dreams of this type of Uyo roads grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 3:25pm On Jul 12, 2019
vaxx:
grin most you mentioned me. Anyway i will let it pass. tutorial very funny you.
nice that u let it pass. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:46pm On Jul 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
Uyo roads grin

Great roads. They have nothing to do with us. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 3:47pm On Jul 12, 2019
tylann:


Kenya has better road infrastructure than Nigeria Uhuru will never allow our infrastructure to rot like Nigeria's infrastructure


Hahahaha just the fool I have been waiting for , for the pat let's say three days.he has finally sounded foolish as I wanted him to.

Can you compare whatever you have In nairoslum to dar

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 3:53pm On Jul 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
I want make this comedians pee for pant grin e be like say dem sabi Nigerians
Very funny people I swear grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 3:55pm On Jul 12, 2019
samorobo:



Hahahaha just the fool I have been waiting for , for the pat let's say three days.he has finally sounded foolish as I wanted him to.

Can you compare whatever you have In nairoslum to dar
He is consoling himself bro leave am make e dey entertain us na comedian him be.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 3:55pm On Jul 12, 2019
Osun State roads ( one of the least IGR generating states in Nigeria )

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 3:56pm On Jul 12, 2019
NigeriaIsDoomed:
No matter how lizard do press-up reach e no go fit get muscle pass crocodile. Kenya na Lizard wey Naija dey so no forget again. grin
Him never jamb problem Ahswear cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Problemkid1: 4:00pm On Jul 12, 2019
gallivant:


As usual your inadequacies are getting the better of you. Flooding happens when you fail to put in place infrastructure to mitigate the elements. Nothing to do with us. wink
So are you telling me that you don't have flood in Nairobi. shocked grin this ones are river or pool right grin this is your CBD ooo. Your capital for that matter grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by NigeriaIsDoomed: 4:24pm On Jul 12, 2019
Problemkid1:
So are you telling me that you don't have flood in Nairobi. shocked grin this ones are river or pool right grin this is your CBD ooo. Your capital for that matter grin
A case of a pot attacking the kettle and forgetting that he is living in a glass house.
Kenyans are known for being dull and foolish simultaneously. grin
Now that we have exposed their slummy CBD they will bring another subject matter and we will still flog them. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by tylann: 4:41pm On Jul 12, 2019
samorobo:



Hahahaha just the fool I have been waiting for , for the pat let's say three days.he has finally sounded foolish as I wanted him to.

Can you compare whatever you have In nairoslum to dar


Okay i didn't know iam this important in your life you have been waiting for me for the last 3 days smiley
And i dont like insults boy angry have i abused you


Nairobi has superior road infrastructure than dar es salaam
Do you want me repost them smiley again
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:48pm On Jul 12, 2019
Nigeria having better roads than Kenya is the joke of the century.
1) Start - from 40kms - Thika Super-highway - that cost 400M dollars - with 12 lanes

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:49pm On Jul 12, 2019
Nairobi Outering road.
1) Donholm Junction

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:54pm On Jul 12, 2019
Problemkid1:
So are you telling me that you don't have flood in Nairobi. shocked grin this ones are river or pool right grin this is your CBD ooo. Your capital for that matter grin

What does flooding in Nairobi have to do with flooding in Nigeria? Flooding is not a symbiotic relationship. You have to face your insecurities about Kenya boys. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 5:05pm On Jul 12, 2019
Nairobi - Southern By-pass.

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