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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 11:50am On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: I understand but I don't believe. I don't believe anybody is hearing from any god. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: If you want to hear from Buhari, go and read the newspaper, listen to the radio or watch the news on your TV screen. That's just the ruler of your country who solicited for your support before mounting the seat of power in Abuja. It's not that nobody can hear from him but he chooses whom he will interact with DIRECTLY. And you can't say because i voted him in, he must speak to me one on one! So if that's the case with humans that were elected by fellow humans, how come you expect God who has higher standards to speak with everyone including those who don't even care about his laid down principles? Well he has documented everything in the Bible, it is a proof that he has plans for you and i, it's like a will that stipulates the portion of each beneficiary, all you need to do is IDENTIFY his real messengers who will enlighten you from your own copy of the will{Bible} how to get your portion that's all! No additional information and no subtraction for now until his kingdom comes! Revelation 22:18-19 |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 1:21pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Maximus69: So you believe that a being you say loves us so much as to kill its son for us, will not speak to us clearly like Buhari does on TV but will rather rely on vague statements written by people whose language is no longer used but we had to translate from copies of copies of copies of their original text, to communicate with us. And you call this being a loving, intelligent, supreme being? 3 Likes |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Kureh(m): 2:19pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 3:01pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed:His love has been displayed. His works seen. His witnesses everywhere. And they've formed a happy global family of peace-loving worshippers even in a racist and politically divided world. So there's no need to question his style of approach,and i don't need seeing him in person if i'm seeing his works. All i need now is continue enjoying the benefits of believing in him with over 8,000,000 other faithful witnesses throughout the globe!
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Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 3:30pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Maximus69: Ok o but me I don't do long distance relationships by proxy. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 3:40pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed:Please why are you on NL 24/7 arguing with people if truthfully you're not interested in long distance relationship by proxy? Well we're interested in seeing the world becoming a global family, and the one who sent us out said he is going to give us the privilege to live forever. Psalms 37:29 But those who loves aparthy he will exterminate throughout the earth once for all times! Psalms 37:7-11, Proverbs 2:20-22 |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 4:43pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Funaki: If you read through my comments you will see that I never disproved the fact that Paul was inspired by the most high to share the gospel. He also made it clear that he also uses his human understanding to teach. 1 corinthians 9:19-23. Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings Paul is whatever you want him to be as he made it clear in that chapter I quoted. He admits his human side and stated that he uses his judgement to preach depending on who he is speaking to |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 6:04pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: Fair enough brother. Fair enough Just curious tho, is it that you don't believe there is a God, or you think there is a higher force but it ain't God and it deff ain't interested in what we do here on earth or you just believe the earth just exists as its own entity and there is no higher force at play here it's just us and us alone no other dimension, extraterrestrial etc force at play? Honestly you sound like some people who have lost a loved one to violence. They first go into the why me phse, then why the victim, then where was God when they were asking for the person's safe return then they go into the there can be no God mode. Most times people go into the there is no God after experiencing or hearing someone lose experience bad things happen. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 7:44pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Maximus69: Do you know what proxy is? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 7:48pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: I don't believe there is any supernatural force or higher power that has any active interest in us and while I cannot categorically say such a being or beings do not/can not exist, I have seen no evidence that they do so I reserve belief (and of course is such beings become known belief is useless anyway). |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 7:50pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: Fair enough. Any thing pushed you to that belief or you just looked around and decided it was how you view it? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 7:59pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: I looked around and knew I could not in all honesty continue to defend my faith in light of our collective experience as humans. And the more I look critically at the claims of the bible and the bible itself the more problems arise so that I can't even think any of represents the word of a supreme, intelligent being. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 8:08pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: I get where you are comming from. I personally know there is supreme force (God if you will) exists from personal experience although I know I would like to hook unto God's frequency more often ie be as close as a child or friend. I could (or used to be able to) connect to other people's energies (Used to test it out here on Nl but mods keep deleting after a few weeks) that makes me know things are possible. From me to you.... Believe it, there is something greater than us, maybe not the way we have been made to see or receive it. You prolly will be signalled at a point in time. God is real. There are God's but 1 supreme God head. Who is the leader of the unseen realm. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 8:18pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
I didn't answer this part: delishpot: If pain comes through my words its because I am pained I believed this stuff for more than half of my life. Compounded by the pain of loosing a loved one and seeing other loved ones suffer which is further compounded by the pain of every human out there especially the ones that cry out to the god for relief and get a deafening silence in response. Not to mention all the ones that die enmass through no fault of their own while we chant on "God loves me". |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 8:48pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: I felt that pain from loss in your energy. I just did not want to say it straight cos e Don Tey I do this was it violent uncalled for death that hit close to home? Anyhow, I have experienced things enough to say without doubt that there is a Force heading an unseen realm and we can only seek to know it. My opinion is that we humans don't know exactly what it is and how to connect anytime we want. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 8:53pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: No the loss wasn't violent. Guess what, I recently learnt of the passing of the 5 year old daughter of a schoolmate who was also a fellow christian brother at the time. How do you explain these types of things? If there is a god and it does nothing, how is it different from not existing? If we don't know how to connect to it how is it our job to make the effort? If you wanted to communicate with an ant, would you expect the ant to make the effort? 3 Likes |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 10:33pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: You can teach me, you know i'm not as schooled in the borrowed language as you do but regarding the truth that's been keeping you on NL 24/7, i will teach you! |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 10:58pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: What if it wanted to connect in the beginning? Sent people who could perform miracles, showed itself supreme but earthlings just wanted to use it for selfish gains? What if there are rules governing their realm and they can't break it until we hit a certain energy level? What if what we have been told is not nearly half the right thing? That is the big question there. But yes, sometimes even with my experiences, I still wish that instead of things happening far and in between, they happen normally. As for the death of the lil one, take it this way.... Everybody has a time frame, we as humans don't know what it is we have come to do here. Maybe we are sent here to fix what was unexperienced in another realm. So each journey is unique and prayers most certainly won't affect much unless under certain circumstances. If that be the case.... We should embrace our life and should we decide to change things know that if the law keeper changes it here, we will most prolly return to experience it again but if all goes as plan and the soul completes it's earthly journey successfully according to the law and wasn't hijacked to go the wrong path by the opposing forces or laws that favours the opposing side (ie ancestral curses, demonic possession etc) such a soul experiences heaven. Those that did not pass through no conscious fault of theirs may reincarnate or who knows what it is the rule is. Honestly it boils down to that knowing God's mind we were talking about. There are lots of unanswered questions in my head too |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 11:15pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: Jesus Christ known as God's only begotten Son who even had the power to resurrect a man dead for four days, gave way to tears! John 11:35 Because that's the consequence of what our first parents Adam and Eve brought upon us all. Romans 5 :12 And nothing can stop it until God's kingdom comes! John 11:24 Whether you agree with that or not, God will never speak to you directly just to convince you of all that's written and that you're seeing people proclaiming, and that you're here arguing over it for the past three years! So take it or leave it, he has explained what led to that and his own worshipers are aware of it, therefore we're consoled knowing we're going to see our dead loved ones again! Of course we brought nothing here and we can't take anything away when we give up the spirit, but he has given us that UNDESERVED kindness {Grace} to be come back again when all evildoers are gone, when death will be no more! Isaiah 25:8 Revelations 21:4-5 Don't bother about it, it's just in our brains and it keeps us blissful everywhere we go! |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 11:32pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: So it decides that it will just stand and watch people rip themselves apart over who has the correct one true god? Sounds like a real stand up god. How does this have any meaning for a 5year old? One who died in so much pain as her parents wept calling on the god to save her? How does it mean anything to the starving people who can't even lift food into their mouths because they so weak? It makes way more sense that there isn't a god than to believe there is one and the only consolation for all this suffering is platitudes that don't even mean anything to those in dire situations. I now understand when people say they won't submit to such a god if it decides to show up because the it appears that the god if it exists is a twisted being that actually hates the human species. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 11:39pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
Maximus69: Story story, story. Once upon a time, time time. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 11:39pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: Maybe we have not come to know the laws governing God's realm. Maybe when we reach that level miracles will just start popping and everyone will statghten up. That will be the paradise on earth Jesus is said to have spoken of. Maybe God has not much to do directly with humans, maybe we are just interesting creatures to be watched and studied. Oh boy ehhhh too many maybes. Sorry for the loss of your friends daughter. According to the bible at the fall of Adam and Eve, it did not say there will be wars when God sent them out, it did not say man shall be evil to man... Those happened when Satan fell. That was the consequence of Satan's presence on earth not tied to man eating the fruit of knowledge. Early death sickness, wars etc. Just a biblical perspective to death. I don't believe early death is as a result of Adams sin. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 11:43pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
delishpot: They were marking one year today, I hope memory of the good times keep their hearts warmed. Yep, part of it is there are too many maybes and the answers are just so contrived. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by delishpot: 11:45pm On Jul 12, 2019 |
LordReed: We shall all find out someday I guess. In good time. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by ichuka(m): 12:51am On Jul 13, 2019 |
Genesis 1:27 King James Version (KJV) 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. @OP God created them both in the begining. The female was already created in the male. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by malvisguy212: 12:19pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
CAPSLOCKED:am sure most of you atheists skip Sunday school lesson. the question is why Will God who want worship from his creatures forget to create female who Will multiply human ? did God tell Adam to multiply alone ? very silly question raised by the op. what do you understand by the word MANKIND ? the text say " Let us make MANKIND in our image, and after our likeness......let THEM have dominion..... the text did not say let him have dominion, the text say let THEM have dominion, meaning God intention was to create Eve even before He created Adam. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 4:45pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
Maximus69: A proxy is an intermediary who represents another person in negotiations or other types of dealings. Nairaland is not a proxy so don't get it twisted. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
LordReed:OK Sir, That's proxy right? Thanks for the enlightenment! So what's been keeping you on NL religious section 24/7, when you have nothing to do with religion? |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 10:17pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
Maximus69: Entertainment, I come here to get my kicks. It's fun reading clowns like you. |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by Nobody: 10:33pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
LordReed:Hmmm, It's fun READING you say? Well it would have made more sense if you ONLY read without participating in religious dialogue, debate or argument! Intelligence reveals that only the DISTURBED engage in talk about the other group! |
Re: Christians, Come And Answer This Question. by LordReed(m): 11:04pm On Jul 13, 2019 |
Maximus69: Yes clown I didn't disturb you but you persist in disturbing me so disturbed clown, keep disturbing me. |
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